Mocking Spongebob at least when u prioritize connection over skill you see better quality matches for both parties, mix of skill levels across the lobby
I just don't like that lobbies aren't really lobbies anymore. It switches after every game, like what if I find some good teammates, and want to keep playing with them? Like, it kind of takes away those moments of friendship within the game itself
When I played Cold War, my first few games, I'd do really good, top of the leaderboard, lots of kills, little to no deaths, then SBMM would kick in, I'd do terrible, but not because the other players were better, oh no, every time, without fail, the entire enemy team would be head glitching, camping prone in corners, bushes, etc. Using the most OP guns while doing it. You can't do anything about it either, because they can immediately see you but you can't see them because of how the camera/player POV works, especially if they're in bushes or head glitching.
Cause noobs want good or decent players to play people on their same level but if you have less than a 1 kd how are you gonna get better if you play people that are just has bad as you ? Its dumb as hell
@@mrsolodolo3361 Yeah that's what I'm saying it's just that when you go into that playlist your KD, win/loss are not tracked, this would turn away most k/d whores and pubstompers and it would make it truly casual and enjoyable experience
EXACTLY. Sometimes I just want to chill and have fun with dumb off-meta weapons. I literally can't do that if I've played well for the last week. Every game becomes a sweat fest. They need to have ranked and unranked so I can sweat when I want.
Because SBMM makes idiots that have no interest in improving feel like they are good players, and these idiots are also the same people who buy microtransactions instead of grinding in games. Even though these people are not the hardcore fans of the franchise who have dedicated a lot of time to it, they make em a lot more money, so they cater to them.
bo2 had the perfect ranked system and they changed it i don’t really know why. at this point devs choices don’t surprise me anymore. might just have to become one and change it ourselves
@@HiJack3r They just need to promote the ranked playlist more. It is a place where good players can find competition and new players can get used to the game while playing against other new players.
@@HiJack3r Sadly, you're completely right. They know they can fuck over the veterans of COD because we will play the game anyway. Knowing this, they cater to the noobs who give them easy money. Shit sucks
One of the biggest things I notice when watching theses SBMM videos is no one brings up the point on how it almost forces you to use whatever loadout and whatever gun is currently in meta. And thats just to be able to compete with all the other players. It also means there almost little to no variation in any givin match.
Yes, i hate it so much. I used to enjoy playing around with different loadouts every game. But now I have to play with the SPR or K98 in order to have a relatively positive K/D. Thing is, I hate marksman rifles and I don't like quickscoping, it's not a playstyle I enjoy, but you are essentially forced into it now.
@@jonash3406 bro and the sbmm isn’t even accurate. I haven’t played in 4 days I play today and get lobbies with ppl with obsidian and nukes. I don’t even have Damascus this is bs. Needs to be fixed ASAP. I’m just blocking everyone with nukes and obsidian it’s not fair I don’t even play the game that much
Bruh being 100% bo2 was just as basic as the newer boots on ground cods that came out after it, I honestly feel bo2 was looked at as soo godly because of the next 2-3 cods (depending on the person) where completely dog shit, bo2 was fun done get me wrong, but I feel like if the other games after it where good, it would be a normal title,
Napoo V1 bo2 was looking like a goat cod *during* its life cycle. After ghosts (I didn’t think ghosts was bad, it had good concepts, execution was just poor) BO2 just started looking better and better. But during its life cycle people obviously had to compare it to other “great cods” before it and it was still topping like 70-80% of people’s tier list. At the end of the day it’s subjective because people suck off mw3 but I would rip my fingernails off 1 by 1 before I play that shit again
@@napoo454 This isn't really true. BO2 is exactly what most of the community claim they like. #1 Dominated by smaller and more linear maps on average than the older CODs #2 Streaks are powerful and there's good variety among them #3 There's a decent variety of weapons and attachments (it was also the first to make an effort to make all types of weapons before that we did have MW2 with powerful shotguns and quickscoping but BO2 had those in addition to LMGs and pistols), I would argue the weapon balance is overrated but it better than the older CODs and just as good as almost everything that comes after with the exception of BO3 which has the best weapon balance to date #4 It has the scorestreak system which most claim to prefer, you can also cycle through streaks and it doesn't reset after death #5 It has reduced flinch and stock #6 The TTK isn't super fast and it's not super slow #7 It has the pick 10 system. BO2 isn't by any means my favorite COD or even top 3 but I can definitely see how it appeals to most and is consistently voted as the best COD
Because the folks who continue to uphold the defense of SBMM either don't talk much about it, don't receive any real constructive reasoning on the matter, don't receive a satisfying response in its regard, or just don't really care and want to play the devil's advocate.
This video is a joke. SBMM isn’t for top players or pro players. It’s for the noobs. It most definitely should be toned down but no SBMM isn’t a good move. Not everyone puts in enough time to be good at a game. When people hop on, they wanna have fun against people that aren’t tiers above them in skill. Saying you hate SBMM cuz u can’t stomp noobs ain’t a good excuse. SBMM should be toned down so that you do get the good players and terrible players in your lobby, but the difference shouldn’t be huge.
@@ezay8694 that’s what us good players are saying. i’ve been playing for 11 years so i’m good and that means i never get to have fun again? just constantly matched against 6 clones of myself in matches that are neck and neck? how do you not understand how unsatisfying and unfun that is for us. guess what, i was shitty 11 years ago too. i sucked it tf up and got better.
SBMM is a product of the “participation trophy” generation where they believe they should be rewarded and validated just for existing. The older generation viewed getting destroyed as a noob as a rite of passage and used that as a learning experience. Going up against good players as a noob was motivating for me. These new players instead give up and cry to the devs on Reddit and other social media.
"older generation" lmao the people you mean aren't that much older. and the opposite argument is that plenty of trash players would always complain about how hard it was for them to level up because they got destroyed by better players. I bet they saw the amount of complaints and the noobs were more present
I would like to say that I never played a cod besides ghosts before but I played similar games and like idk if it’s just me or ppl younger than 13 bc ppl my age don’t cry we grind all day and night But some 11 year olds just cry to make the game balanced
Tried CS:GO out after playing Tarkov, Rising Storm and Insurgency for a long while. The first 10 or so rounds were ridiculously easy and then I got dumped into games with people around 60 levels higher than me. I wouldn't have minded going up a bit, but at that point I had to play people with probably hundreds of hours under their belt while I was on like hour 2, still learning the buy menu and maps. Killed the game for me.
They should just have a protected bracket for the first 20 levels and a tier of sbmm for literally disabled people who have a kd of like .2 otherwise no.
Bro Scump looked like he was in a reverse boosted lobby when he was playing against all the streamers. He was pub stomping Nick Mercs, Swagg, and a bunch of other big streamers. So that is simple proof that Scump wants SBMM out of the game not because he is afraid of getting destroyed but because he just wants to chill a little. He said he doesn't even want to play against the bottom 30% of players but he just doesn't want sweats all the time. Base COD by itself is not a competitive game but merely a fun arcade shooter. When you make it competitive, people exploit all the bs in the game which is why actual pro competitive rule sets GA half the stuff in the game to keep the environment competitive. I actually never thought of it that way even though I was against SBMM so Birdman made a good point. People like the pro smash player Leffen need to stay in their lane and stfu. He is defending sbmm for COD on twitter and saying that anyone who is against SBMM is a pathetic content creator looking for easy game plays.
Leffen has a background in fighting games and SBMM is really useful in those games because you learn a lot more from losing and the back and forth kinda games. As somebody that plays a mix of FPS and fighting games I can understand why his perception is a bit warped on applying it to COD. However, he’s completely wrong and SBMM should only be in ranked and pubs should just be based on connection quality to endure the game runs smooth
No facts spoken. No-life geeks who dedicate their lives to playing this game deserve to be matched up with each other. Thanks to CoD's developers for minimising casual players' interactions with these sweaty neckbeards.
no cap, this comment deservers a million likes, instead of going up against good players you end up going up against fkn hackers, with light aimbot and wall hacks who toggle to make it look like they are not hacking.
@@blyat6373 You don't get matched with console players once your MMR reaches a certain point. COD on PC is filled with hackers since there is no real anti-cheat. They usually pre-aim at you through walls and do other extremely obvious shit. You can immediately tell in the killcam.
like birdman said "youll get better overtime" im gonna 100% im complete dogshit at call of duty but i still play because i know im better now then when i first played back in 2010
@@malygos9301 SBMM is just easy way to bully noobs. Just put a little effort to make an account where u shoot air an make ur kda bad and boom. U can bully kids
In a game like rainbow six siege every game mode has skill based matchmaking and it protects the noobs but still allows them to get better so why is it so bad in CoD
look man, I've tried getting new people into shooter games. Some saying "Oh COD sounds cool, if I try anything, I wanna try that". Next thing you know, their first 10 games they got nothing but pub-stomped by 70/1 players, and they couldn't get a single kill. They give up and never want to touch cod again. Not every game is gonna be that bad, but match make RNG isn't in everyones favor. Sometimes COD just flat out shuts down some new players, with bad pub stomp luck. I was fortunate enough to come into COD without pub stompers every game. But not everyone is lucky enough to have that experience. Sadly theres no "Easy difficulty" for multiplayer, but the least we can do is match them against equally new players. So that everyone in the lobby has a shot at having some fun. Its never been about "protecting feelings" its about making sure the game is fun. But all I'm vibing off of birdman here is *Its ok to be bad at a game=its ok to not have any fun in a game* because the issue when we get to its core, is fun. Not skill. Skill just influences fun. Why should new players have to deal with a game thats RNG if their gonna get to have any fun or not? It doesn't take fighting people x50 your skill level, to get better. You get better as you learn to play better than your enemies. As you play better, you'd get matched higher. And that cycles. I'd argue that playing similar skilled people, is easier for gaining skill. Because fighting someone x50 times your skill level is... Well not a fight at all. Your going to lose so hard, that you aren't given any opportunities to try things that work better, nor work on your aim. Because your dead before you can even join the fight to practice.
Not only is it not a fight at all, it's not a game anymore. A shark vs human swimming race isn't a legitimate competition. To win is to convince your opponent to stop trying, or cheat. Not even rng can save you.
No one wants sbmm remover COMPLETELY it’s been in every cod ever the problem is modern warfare 2019 and Cold War turned up sbmm sooo fucking much I can’t play the game for fun anymore sbmm should be a thing but not so strict to the point good players are no longer having fun with the game bo2 for example has sbmm in casual but the sbmm was only for newer players who were acc very bad at the game and good players were still able to have fun in lobbies without sweating their ass off and if they wanted to sweat their ass of they could go play league play which is an acc ranked mode
The only players in the alpha are the most passionate players in the community, any casual won’t go out their way to play the game early of course people will think SBMM is the problem but the real problem is everyone is just a good player lmao
I'm sorry dude I just have to vouch for the people that can't put enough time to be good enough to beat crimsix on a pub, even if they wanted to do better they don't have the time and losing all the time is not fun for some just like going hard all the time isn't fun either for some people. Good players are just too little compared to all the little Timmy's who buy cod for Christmas, sorry but it's stupid to think they will remove this just for us a little part of the huge playerbase
I've been playing single player games all my life well I've played multiplayer games but only with my brother never really had the chance to play online
not only that, but seems like you're getting into a lobby where only the enemy team is actually good and your teammates are just not that good most of the time, you only need to see marskman's stream for proof.
If your fav game stops being fun the moment your enemies are as good as you, the games just straight up trash. Even fucking tic-tac-toe is fun when your opponent is just reatrded and loses all the time.
@@Ocerry1 Not true at all. I played casual games and wasn't really good but when I had more time and playes longer I got better and won a lot, but also lost a lot. I didn't leave the game because I lost. I straight up deinstalled warzone because I can't survive for longer than ~5 minutes anymore. My kd ism't eben good. SBMM is cranked up so high I get lasered from people while they are 200 meters away with their grau. It is not fair and it is not fun, because that is what happens every round. If I keep on playing this game, I will lose myself at some point. I had to get rid of it.
Back when I was 7 and first got in to cod I played against recruit bots, then started playing easy bots, then worked my way up to hard bots. Then I was ready for multiplayer. There should be a training mode for new players and little timmys so they can get better and eventually play multiplayer
Bro word, I am NOT great at CoD but whenever I’m able to spank somebody who outranks me every once in a while, I feel kickass. I hate when max levels just want to pick on lower levels
@@mitchellemerson6916 they stopped buying because they hated MW, we couldn't go wild and have fun, I'm the only one who even considered buying cold war
He literally made no sense. First he said “it’s retarded to assume that players are against SBMM because they don’t wanna play against competition” then he later said “I don’t wanna play against try hards every match.” He also says that you gotta play with people that are way better than you to get better but he doesn’t like playing try hards who are better than him so he doesn’t believe in his own cod philosophy. The idea of needing to play people way better than you to get good is also dumb. Look at any sport and they have levels. You won’t become an Nba player because you play with Nba players. That’s not how that works.
"To someone that's a lower skill level every single person is way better than you" that is 100% subjective too, what harm would adding ranked matches do it would literally give people like you exactly what you want just don't play public matches if you think its too hard softy.
@@sw3ty917 this isn’t even about me lil child human. I’m just talking about facts and how most of what he said makes no sense. And I didn’t say anything about not adding ranked. Sbmm and ranked are damn near the same sht. But he hates sbmm and loves ranked. That makes zero sense.
What I like about cod is the mixture of players playing try hards all the time is it fun neither is playing against noobs cod should give you a mixture of both to make it fun that is what makes cod fun
Some people don’t realize that people who defend skmm aren’t just trying to not have their feelings hurt either lmao. I don’t play cod myself but I know for a fact if I don’t have a lot of time to play games and I get a new game and get matched against sweats and people with a 3 kd I’d stop playing that game because it’s not fun. I doubt people are trying to not get their feelings hurt they just want to play the game casually and not get paired against sweats
DcLaflamaBlanca let’s say you are a lower tier player who just gets on and plays on the weekends a random matchmaking system is also good for you you get to see and play against good and bad players so you can improve if you want to or just chill and play some cod even if there was sbmm you are not going to win every game and you are still going to run into try hards and there may be more of them we’re as in the random system you run into everyone and that is what makes it fun
I’ve been playing since bo2 man and it’s just so shit nowadays bro I just can’t play cod anymore I mean a pub match on bo2 was literally fun af and now bro now I have to sweat every pub match I mean cmon man
I’m curious why people are so against sbmm, like yeah you want to be the best player in the lobby I get that we all do but that makes it no fun for the 6 kids on the other team... you think the developers would rather have you pub stomp 6 kids or have 6 kids play in a competitive game against players their level and have a way better experience playing then getting shit on by good players
@@jackcollins7649 this video answers your question. I'm old compared to these kids nowadays and imo, the older call of duty games were more fun. They were more fun because the experience was varied and changed every time. If it's always hard then it becomes frustrating to play. If it's too easy, the other players get frustrated and we all get that. Thats why we're looking for something right in the middle, the middle has been found in the past with true random lobbies. A ranked mode would mean that those six kids would be playing against people at their level while an unranked mode would be where we can have the more varied and random experience.
Jack Collins those 6 kids on the other team can back out and find a new lobby. People don’t want it so you can play a variety of player good, bad, and average. Tell me, is it fun going 25-20, 22-21, 15-13, etc every game or would it be fun going 40-10, 35-15, 20-5, every now and then with some games going negative?
@@cookazor as someone who supports a little bit of SBMM,I dont think anyone doesnt think it's fun going 40-5 lol,but I've seen someone go 6-108 on bo3,and idc what anyone says,that's not fair lol,it should be there in someway,but nowhere near as strict as it is now
Jack collins in true connection based no skill matchmaking matches are random, so sometimes even bad players can go on huge streaks and sometimes they get fucked. Its an egalitarian system. In sbmm, as you get better the only thing that changes is you need to sweat harder to achieve the same result. It ruins the point of playing the game Instead of having a system that caters towards the lowest common denominator, promote a culture that makes people strive to improve instead of complaining about being bad and needing a system that accomodates their shitness
Even without SBMM majority the sweats and tryhards are all gonna avoid ranked and play pubs with their 6 man using the best guns and trying spawn trap because they can't do nearly as good in ranked or against other good players. I ran into this in bo4 everyday. And majority played like you, where they sit back and camp for streaks using the best guns so I can see why you aren't a fan of it.
@@Walamonga1313 especially if you reverse boost or you just get lucky. But typically people who run in parties of other sweats can run lobbies and make shit easier because they all know the maps, have game sense, just all around better teammates making it easy to get map control and spawn trap. Always use to go up against this while solo or duo and my other teammates going double or triple negative
The alpha was the sweatiest sh!t I’ve played all year. My first game I dropped like 60 kills and then all of a sudden ppl slide canceling and bunny hoping non stop making world league plays 😪😪😪 It’s really sad because I like the game this year but sbmm flat out ruins it and I’m just not gonna get it since I know the devs aren’t gonna change it so it’s really a bust 😐
I’m shit at the game but there are so many smurfs that the low skill players don’t even benefit and when I do good it’s only for about 4-5 matches before I get put against tryhards
A s&d game at my level (.75:1 K/D) is either 6-0/6-1, or 0-6/1-6. 1 out of 15 games is a somewhat close game. It doesn't work how its intended to regardless of skill level.
And the matchmaking still sucks lol, I constantly seem to play against people that have some idea of what to do while I get teamed up with scrubs that can't hold a controller lmao
If find that it never really feels like I’m getting better, as soon as my KD goes up, the aggressive mw SBMM just puts me with sweatier and sweatier people. Just an endless cycle of: getting shit on- getting better- going up on SBMM- getting shit on
THIS so hard. I swear I'm significantly better at shooters than I were when I was a kid, but I will have several lobbies one after the other getting shit on almost as hard as when I was a noob. I kind of feel cheated, when I was a noob I was motivated by the fact that I would one day be the top fragger, but instead you're never allowed to become that since if you're too good for the lobby they send you into the fucking deep end to knock you back down.
What’s so bad about SBMM that it needs to be protested though? From this video all I got was that people preferred not having SBMM, but that there wasn’t anything horribly wrong with it.
Playing against better players doesn’t necessarily make you better at the game. It’s more complex than that. When bad players compete against much better players, they aren’t likely to continue throwing themselves at you, hoping their reaction time will improve with each death - they’re more likely to develop the scummy habits that the majority of CoD players hate, such as prone-camping or using noob weapons. You say that new players aren’t going to get any better by fighting other new players, but that’s absolutely absurd: they become familiar with the maps, they become familiar with the weapons and equipment, and both their aim and reaction time improve. Due in part to CoD’s low time-to-kill, new players will probably have a lot less time to improve these skills if they’re playing against vastly superior opponents, because they’re dying so often and so fast. Like I said, they’ll just resort to using dishonorable strategies. You claim that you don’t want to hide from an actual challenge, but then you incriminate yourself at 5:13 - “It’s not that we DON’T wanna play against good players, I just want to be able to choose when I have a fair game and when I get to shit all over everybody else.” So you DO want unfair matches at least some, likely most, of the time? It’s worth mentioning that CoD players don’t glorify fair play. The vast majority of viral clips involve one highly-skilled player slam-dunking on several people in rapid succession. With SBMM, this isn’t possible, or at least the opportunities for it are very, very rare. So I think the CoD community might depend, to some extent, on the ability to shit on worse players. THAT would be a tougher argument: “Videos of high-level play encourage noobs to suffer through the process of improvement, so that they can start pulling off the impressive stunts they watch online.” You could say that the unbalanced environment is crucial for maintaining CoD’s appeal - highlight all of CoD’s strong suits, and don’t fight critiques head-on if you don’t necessarily need to beat them. Is CoD unbalanced? Yes. Do you want to shit on a bunch of worse players? Yes. Is that a bad thing? Depends. As a CoD player, don’t let other people define the battle: “SBMM allows new players to have fun.” It would be more useful (and truthful) to say, “Sure, but it also prevents us pros from making the exact kind of content that motivates them to play at all.” “You just want to get a bunch of easy kills.” You should say, “Yeah, EXACTLY. Our crazy clips are the reason new players get into the game.”
I feel like SBMM is now giving COD "content creators" a rude awakening on their typically mediocre skill level and instead of actually accepting they weren't the best and were just stomping on kids they rip their hair out because they simply refuse to have to put any effort into the game. It's like a professional basketball team who only has been playing against highschoolers now having to actually play against appropriate players
Well, things I see on Twitter cant happen cus anything that's wild enough to talk about and have him be funny would get flagged for bullying immediately. Go back and watch some of the old stuff from a few years ago like the beauty salon for the whales. Theres NO WAY that would survive the algorithm today and it's sad Smackin sweaties tho, we need that
@@SuccimusPrime yeah ik iits notthe good old days when he could just roast people but i just want it back badly but he could 100% bring smackin sweaties back in warzone that wouldve been fun asf as a video series
Man the system doesn't even work. I get in matches where I either destroy and get an absurd kd or I get on a team where my team mates are like bots and I still do ok but lose the match. Kd is over 2 and my w/l ratio is like 0.8. It doesn't make sense
@@camo5023 Dude im TRASH and i still get in sweaty lobby every game man. At the end of the day the level of competition has gone up Period because everybody wants to be a gaming RUclipsr now
They don't want to make a good competitive mode because If they did, the noobs they're trying to protect will be hard stuck in bronze and their feelings will get hurt.
I have a friend who is absolute trash at COD, but we only play together like once a month. When we queue up together it feels like I am playing against low level players. I am usually top frag when with him, when I am not queued with him it's a whole other story. - Another thing to add is how he always tells me how he feels like he is extremely good when not queued with me, but when he is queued with me he is usually at the bottom of the scoreboard. He's a casual player and we've never even talked about SBMM, he wouldn't even know what that is. We just play to unwind every so often.
..if SBMM doesn't belong in COD, then there should be an option for those that are new to play against others that match with them if that's what they want. I don't believe they need to be pub stomped in order to "learn"....sorry. Love the vids, but disagree on this one.
@@wreckthefloor6879 this type of though is the issue, lets say my friend wants to start playing the game, and we queue up together and his first experience of the game is getting anally fisted by a lobby og good players, he isnt learning anything, all hes doing is sitting there and complaining about how shit the game is, and it potentially turns new players away. YES they need to face better players to improve, no they dont need to face Chad McThunderCock who spends 14 hours a day learning the ins and outs of every map and knows all the wallbangs. end of the day if you can choose, people are gonna choose pubs because they can stomp, and it makes the game unfun for new players. there needs to be SBMM to a degree so that new players can get their feet wet and explore the game before they get destroyed.
Quality - Games & Music I get what whatcha mean bro. But all I’m saying is I’m not trying to go 110 percent every fucking game. It gets to the point where you plateau and can never tell if you’re getting better or not. And then it becomes not fun. And honestly bro it’s not that hard to get “good” at cod. Like seriously it’s not that fucking hard unless you’re fucking 9. We all started off shit. You see people complaining back in the old games? I want a variety. And you just want a participation trophy
For a player just learning the basic mechanics of the game should not be dropped in with max lvl players. Let SBMM rock till level 10 then let the mayhem begin.
@@Draughtsatsuma6 I average 1.0+ kd’s it says exactly what I said it did I don’t spend 12+ hours on the same game I shouldn’t have to go up against that I should be based with people who play the same amount of hours and have similar stats
My 55 year old dad plays call of duty, he works full time and also has other responsibilities, he probably gets in a total of 1.5 hours per week, he can get better at the game but very slowly, I know for a fact that if there was no SBMM he wouldn’t enjoy the game, and I want him to enjoy it. Those are the people skill based matchmaking is meant to protect, not the gaming youtubers and professional players.
I do agree that modern warfare and probely cold wars skill based match making is a little much but sbmm helps the longevity of a cod game so that when you play a new player starts playing the game there not up against a level 1000 player
Let’s be real, SBMM doesn’t match up good and good or bad and bad. It matches up people based almost solely on KD, and the people with the best KD are people who camp dark corners. That’s why MW was just not that good of a game. TDM games were literally ground to time limit almost every single game
I agree that they should have a ranked and unranked but I really don’t think they should remove skill based matchmaking as I personally find playing against people my level in all games. You will play better players as your KD goes up and that’s better . An example of this is Tom Clancy’s rainbow six siege where skill based matchmaking is a thing and it makes it more fun but you can play ranked if you want to get competitive.
I don't think it's just COD, it's bad for any game. Just the thought of being forced to tryhard or get swept isn't really fun in any type of setting. And the actual decent/good players have to deal with this.
Black ops 2 had very light sbmm level 60s won’t go against level 1s they will go against level 15s and bo2 had boot camp were new players go against ai and other new players
@@catears3053 I’m a noob at cod because I haven’t watched played since bo3 and I hate SBMM it’s hard to improve if all you face are noobs. As much as I hate getting destroyed at the beginning it helped me improve.
The absolute worst argument is when people say 'well look at sports they have leagues so the best teams don't play the worst teams' yeah but they'll always be a few bad teams in the league! Imagine bottom of the league in the NBA saying there not playing against LeBron because he is much better than all of there players just imagine 🤣😂
You say it! In sports there are actually LEAGUES. So SBMM in ranked is just fine. But public matches should be like meetig each other at the backyard and having fun, no matter how good you are. SBMM in public matches is like excluding people on the court because of their skilllevel...
SBMM should be for League Play, not pubs. Period
Yeah, also nice to see you here.
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And there shiuld be a rank system that you can climb in League. And everyone in pubs can see that rank.
Yeah but league play sucks for casuals who arent basement dwellers
Mocking Spongebob at least when u prioritize connection over skill you see better quality matches for both parties, mix of skill levels across the lobby
Everybody gangsta, till birdman says “alright “
I mean if he was trying to fight I’d definitely back tf down.
True
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just like brewstew 💀
I just don't like that lobbies aren't really lobbies anymore. It switches after every game, like what if I find some good teammates, and want to keep playing with them? Like, it kind of takes away those moments of friendship within the game itself
i havent played COD multiplayer in a long time and hearing this makes me sad
Agree with that
damn i feel that
I know right I want stay in the toxic lobbies where everyone talking shit because it hilarious also when you kill them and they get mad
This I can agree with. Lobbies where you have some level of control who you fight is probably what we want.
When I played Cold War, my first few games, I'd do really good, top of the leaderboard, lots of kills, little to no deaths, then SBMM would kick in, I'd do terrible, but not because the other players were better, oh no, every time, without fail, the entire enemy team would be head glitching, camping prone in corners, bushes, etc. Using the most OP guns while doing it. You can't do anything about it either, because they can immediately see you but you can't see them because of how the camera/player POV works, especially if they're in bushes or head glitching.
yeah lmfao. CW moment. Its so gay how some people play.
Never hopped off my step sis so fast
Hang on a goddamn minute
Never hopped off my step mom so fast either
Same
Never hopped off my coyote so fast
Yeah wait bro something ain't adding up
SBMM should be for a ranked playlist only. Idk why there’s even a debate
I'd agree but I don't think that the casual playlist should count for stats
Cause noobs want good or decent players to play people on their same level but if you have less than a 1 kd how are you gonna get better if you play people that are just has bad as you ? Its dumb as hell
Colonel Sanders it should it should just be separate from ranked
@@quickfiring true. if they suck they should stick to singleplayer or play a different game. Or probably get a better hobby anyways.
@@mrsolodolo3361 Yeah that's what I'm saying it's just that when you go into that playlist your KD, win/loss are not tracked, this would turn away most k/d whores and pubstompers and it would make it truly casual and enjoyable experience
When he said “C4 the B-flag” that made me laugh pretty hard
Same
He speaking fax through
lMfao
The only positive thing of a CoD with SBMM Is that it saves money in my wallet.
U have 69 likes so i won't like
@@fatgingercunt8336 I have the power and the will to change it
U have 69 likes so i won't like
@@Saucy_kvn too late bruv
Not for me. A beginner like me wants to rage all the time
Sbmm kills soo many games bc you'll sweat your ass off one day and you can never have fun again.
EXACTLY. Sometimes I just want to chill and have fun with dumb off-meta weapons. I literally can't do that if I've played well for the last week. Every game becomes a sweat fest. They need to have ranked and unranked so I can sweat when I want.
Make a smurf account 🤷simple
fr, its an issue in r6 where if you want to mess around and do dumb stuff with friends you cant cause every game you load into is just a sweaty mess
@Saucii nobody wants to do that its boring
@@GustyLux I shouldn't have to in the first place
Why is there no normal public playlist without sbmm and a ranked playlist?
It was just fine for all cods before so why did they even change it?
The same reason Infinity Ward decided to fuck with the mini map on Modern Warfare, no one knows why 🤷🏾♂️
Because SBMM makes idiots that have no interest in improving feel like they are good players, and these idiots are also the same people who buy microtransactions instead of grinding in games. Even though these people are not the hardcore fans of the franchise who have dedicated a lot of time to it, they make em a lot more money, so they cater to them.
bo2 had the perfect ranked system and they changed it i don’t really know why. at this point devs choices don’t surprise me anymore. might just have to become one and change it ourselves
@@HiJack3r They just need to promote the ranked playlist more.
It is a place where good players can find competition and new players can get used to the game while playing against other new players.
@@HiJack3r Sadly, you're completely right. They know they can fuck over the veterans of COD because we will play the game anyway. Knowing this, they cater to the noobs who give them easy money. Shit sucks
One of the biggest things I notice when watching theses SBMM videos is no one brings up the point on how it almost forces you to use whatever loadout and whatever gun is currently in meta. And thats just to be able to compete with all the other players. It also means there almost little to no variation in any givin match.
That’s true and it sucks.
Yes, i hate it so much. I used to enjoy playing around with different loadouts every game. But now I have to play with the SPR or K98 in order to have a relatively positive K/D. Thing is, I hate marksman rifles and I don't like quickscoping, it's not a playstyle I enjoy, but you are essentially forced into it now.
@@jonash3406 bro and the sbmm isn’t even accurate. I haven’t played in 4 days I play today and get lobbies with ppl with obsidian and nukes. I don’t even have Damascus this is bs. Needs to be fixed ASAP. I’m just blocking everyone with nukes and obsidian it’s not fair I don’t even play the game that much
SBMM defenders: "Git gud n00b!"
@@inspecthergadget4503 Curious thing about that is that this video's creator used "git gud" as an argument
Please make a video showing how to use sbmmoff for better lobbies bro.
You would think with how much the community says we miss BO2, they would realize we want the fun back, not the same bull shit every year
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Bruh being 100% bo2 was just as basic as the newer boots on ground cods that came out after it, I honestly feel bo2 was looked at as soo godly because of the next 2-3 cods (depending on the person) where completely dog shit, bo2 was fun done get me wrong, but I feel like if the other games after it where good, it would be a normal title,
Napoo V1 bo2 was looking like a goat cod *during* its life cycle. After ghosts (I didn’t think ghosts was bad, it had good concepts, execution was just poor) BO2 just started looking better and better. But during its life cycle people obviously had to compare it to other “great cods” before it and it was still topping like 70-80% of people’s tier list. At the end of the day it’s subjective because people suck off mw3 but I would rip my fingernails off 1 by 1 before I play that shit again
@@napoo454 This isn't really true. BO2 is exactly what most of the community claim they like. #1 Dominated by smaller and more linear maps on average than the older CODs #2 Streaks are powerful and there's good variety among them #3 There's a decent variety of weapons and attachments (it was also the first to make an effort to make all types of weapons before that we did have MW2 with powerful shotguns and quickscoping but BO2 had those in addition to LMGs and pistols), I would argue the weapon balance is overrated but it better than the older CODs and just as good as almost everything that comes after with the exception of BO3 which has the best weapon balance to date #4 It has the scorestreak system which most claim to prefer, you can also cycle through streaks and it doesn't reset after death #5 It has reduced flinch and stock #6 The TTK isn't super fast and it's not super slow #7 It has the pick 10 system. BO2 isn't by any means my favorite COD or even top 3 but I can definitely see how it appeals to most and is consistently voted as the best COD
Jorðan mw3 or bo1
Birdman you’re just jealous because my wife’s boyfriend has a higher K/D than you
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My wife's boyfriend has a better kd than yours
Wait hold up
i beat my wife
Code Eugene
So everyone agrees that SBMM should only exist in a separate, competitive gamemode. Why are people still arguing?
Because the folks who continue to uphold the defense of SBMM either don't talk much about it, don't receive any real constructive reasoning on the matter, don't receive a satisfying response in its regard, or just don't really care and want to play the devil's advocate.
I dont, SBMM is a good thing and I do like birdman but this video is a joke
This video is a joke. SBMM isn’t for top players or pro players. It’s for the noobs. It most definitely should be toned down but no SBMM isn’t a good move. Not everyone puts in enough time to be good at a game. When people hop on, they wanna have fun against people that aren’t tiers above them in skill. Saying you hate SBMM cuz u can’t stomp noobs ain’t a good excuse. SBMM should be toned down so that you do get the good players and terrible players in your lobby, but the difference shouldn’t be huge.
@@ezay8694 that’s what us good players are saying. i’ve been playing for 11 years so i’m good and that means i never get to have fun again? just constantly matched against 6 clones of myself in matches that are neck and neck? how do you not understand how unsatisfying and unfun that is for us.
guess what, i was shitty 11 years ago too. i sucked it tf up and got better.
@@ezay8694 so basically you’re a whiny entitled baby who feels like they should be rewarded for existing
2:20 hackers: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
Let me catch my son being a SBMM SIMP
I’m a Birdman SIMP 😏
I'm disowning him on the spot
Let me catch my son being trash and getting wrecked by SBMM
@@bilbodabbins7682 Found the noob
Jugg Energy yes sir
Let me catch my son watching a RUclips video when he has an assignment due in 6 hours...I’m the son
Stop Watching RUclips!
Procrastination be like that 😭
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I'm not self promoting I swear
You and me both bro 💀
When he said “They’re aiming with their big toe” I died lmaooo
"Skill based matchmaking" where a lot of top players camp in rooms with the origin
SBMM is a product of the “participation trophy” generation where they believe they should be rewarded and validated just for existing.
The older generation viewed getting destroyed as a noob as a rite of passage and used that as a learning experience. Going up against good players as a noob was motivating for me. These new players instead give up and cry to the devs on Reddit and other social media.
Exactly. The toxic lobbies back in the day, believe it or not, helped me improve my game playing skills immensely.
Facts
I didn’t care that I was getting destroyed because I knew it was due to me not having enough playtime at that moment
"older generation" lmao the people you mean aren't that much older. and the opposite argument is that plenty of trash players would always complain about how hard it was for them to level up because they got destroyed by better players. I bet they saw the amount of complaints and the noobs were more present
Héctor Acosta 😂 you said boomer 😂 chunges epik moment
I would like to say that I never played a cod besides ghosts before but I played similar games and like idk if it’s just me or ppl younger than 13 bc ppl my age don’t cry we grind all day and night But some 11 year olds just cry to make the game balanced
All they need to do is add a "Ranked" playlist so the tryhards can go sweat their balls off and others can just have a little more fun without SBMM
You do realize that if you get matched against try hards that means you are also a try hard
Taku Chinowona no It could just mean you have good accuracy and mechanical skill
You literally missed the entire point of the video lol
Quantrell Bishop aka El Presador supports skill based match making. He is a Beast in real life , and I agree with the Best man.
The problem is none of them will play the ranked mode they will just hop into the social to pub stomp and get better footage for videos 🤷🤷
Tried CS:GO out after playing Tarkov, Rising Storm and Insurgency for a long while. The first 10 or so rounds were ridiculously easy and then I got dumped into games with people around 60 levels higher than me. I wouldn't have minded going up a bit, but at that point I had to play people with probably hundreds of hours under their belt while I was on like hour 2, still learning the buy menu and maps. Killed the game for me.
Skill based matchmaking is basically Karens setting some rules
The people who love SBMM are the ones that expect a participation medal after losing in sports
They should just have a protected bracket for the first 20 levels and a tier of sbmm for literally disabled people who have a kd of like .2 otherwise no.
@@MFillmore nah bruv all ping how cod used to be make it fun
Bruh😂 Too true
@@MFillmore dude how else people can get high kill gameplays. Korean needs disabled people to get his nukes
I’m fine with it in the game and without it in the game
Bro Scump looked like he was in a reverse boosted lobby when he was playing against all the streamers. He was pub stomping Nick Mercs, Swagg, and a bunch of other big streamers. So that is simple proof that Scump wants SBMM out of the game not because he is afraid of getting destroyed but because he just wants to chill a little. He said he doesn't even want to play against the bottom 30% of players but he just doesn't want sweats all the time. Base COD by itself is not a competitive game but merely a fun arcade shooter. When you make it competitive, people exploit all the bs in the game which is why actual pro competitive rule sets GA half the stuff in the game to keep the environment competitive. I actually never thought of it that way even though I was against SBMM so Birdman made a good point. People like the pro smash player Leffen need to stay in their lane and stfu. He is defending sbmm for COD on twitter and saying that anyone who is against SBMM is a pathetic content creator looking for easy game plays.
Swagg reverse boosts so 🤷♂️
Ngl I don't care about sbmm since I only play the game once in a while when I feel competitive but I can see why I no life players wouldn't like it
@AKAFinn Swagg is legit. But when you see those "World Record 1,548 Kills" videos, we all already know he reverse boosted like Kor3an Savage.
Leffen has a background in fighting games and SBMM is really useful in those games because you learn a lot more from losing and the back and forth kinda games. As somebody that plays a mix of FPS and fighting games I can understand why his perception is a bit warped on applying it to COD. However, he’s completely wrong and SBMM should only be in ranked and pubs should just be based on connection quality to endure the game runs smooth
@@iSoryu Leffen is a little baby who doesnt understand cod sbmm
Bro stop spitting you’re gonna flood my whole house with facts
No facts spoken. No-life geeks who dedicate their lives to playing this game deserve to be matched up with each other. Thanks to CoD's developers for minimising casual players' interactions with these sweaty neckbeards.
Man SBMM is even worse on PC, cause you get matched with cheaters more often the better you play. You literally end up in a lobby with 3-4 cheaters.
no cap, this comment deservers a million likes, instead of going up against good players you end up going up against fkn hackers, with light aimbot and wall hacks who toggle to make it look like they are not hacking.
Probably just aim assist, at first I thought they were hacking but I saw they’re were in console
@@blyat6373 You don't get matched with console players once your MMR reaches a certain point. COD on PC is filled with hackers since there is no real anti-cheat. They usually pre-aim at you through walls and do other extremely obvious shit. You can immediately tell in the killcam.
Then after you get aimbotted the next lobby you get noobs then you curb stomp them next game more hackers.
I was about to argue with Anthony on Twitter about how good LeBron is but Birdman uploaded
😂🤣
People named Anthony probably have like 3 subscribers lol
Moses Devadass uuhhhh what’s the name of the youtuber ur commenting under bud?
MrSoloDolo it’s a joke
@@jurax. can't even categorize that as a joke
I love hearing noobs complaining that SBMM is good for gaming. How does trash get better playing trash???
like birdman said "youll get better overtime" im gonna 100% im complete dogshit at call of duty but i still play because i know im better now then when i first played back in 2010
Agreed
Most people don't play video games to 'get better', they play them for fun, same reason you might play Monopoly.
Tommy S. EXACTLY ! FFS IM NOT TRYING TO GET BETTER IM JUST TRYING TO PLAY 2-3 HOURS AFTER A LONG DAY AT WORK ! 🙄
Tommy S. Ye but wouldn’t getting better be part of the fun experience
When the skill difference is too high you dont get to learn anything making the game experience and improving alot harder than it should be
These dudes just wanna steam roll trash cans playing people on their level keeps their kd too low
@@malygos9301 SBMM is just easy way to bully noobs. Just put a little effort to make an account where u shoot air an make ur kda bad and boom. U can bully kids
In a game like rainbow six siege every game mode has skill based matchmaking and it protects the noobs but still allows them to get better so why is it so bad in CoD
Call of Duty: Sauna Warfare
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Still Flux Explain the link or else nobody’s clicking it due to possible self promotion
@ ruclips.net/video/jcF-1AoDO18/видео.html does this count as a throwback?
@@grudgepersona you have to tell me what your talking about
“Skill based matchmaking is bad for call of duty”
I think you mean all games
Uh no, definitely not
SBMM is so bad in fortnite
Dreamville games like overwatch or csgo should absolutely have skill based matchmaking since the skill gap is so wide compared to cod
@Tony Ramos have you ever heard of the "ranked mode"?
SBMM is essential for competitive games like Rainbow six but even they have the ranked and casual game modes. SBMM in COD pubs is just stupid
look man, I've tried getting new people into shooter games. Some saying "Oh COD sounds cool, if I try anything, I wanna try that".
Next thing you know, their first 10 games they got nothing but pub-stomped by 70/1 players, and they couldn't get a single kill. They give up and never want to touch cod again. Not every game is gonna be that bad, but match make RNG isn't in everyones favor. Sometimes COD just flat out shuts down some new players, with bad pub stomp luck.
I was fortunate enough to come into COD without pub stompers every game. But not everyone is lucky enough to have that experience. Sadly theres no "Easy difficulty" for multiplayer, but the least we can do is match them against equally new players. So that everyone in the lobby has a shot at having some fun. Its never been about "protecting feelings" its about making sure the game is fun. But all I'm vibing off of birdman here is *Its ok to be bad at a game=its ok to not have any fun in a game* because the issue when we get to its core, is fun. Not skill. Skill just influences fun. Why should new players have to deal with a game thats RNG if their gonna get to have any fun or not?
It doesn't take fighting people x50 your skill level, to get better. You get better as you learn to play better than your enemies. As you play better, you'd get matched higher. And that cycles. I'd argue that playing similar skilled people, is easier for gaining skill. Because fighting someone x50 times your skill level is... Well not a fight at all. Your going to lose so hard, that you aren't given any opportunities to try things that work better, nor work on your aim. Because your dead before you can even join the fight to practice.
Not only is it not a fight at all, it's not a game anymore. A shark vs human swimming race isn't a legitimate competition. To win is to convince your opponent to stop trying, or cheat. Not even rng can save you.
I feel like it should be sbmm for like ur first 10-50 games where it only matches you with noobs then theirs no sbmm
No one wants sbmm remover COMPLETELY it’s been in every cod ever the problem is modern warfare 2019 and Cold War turned up sbmm sooo fucking much I can’t play the game for fun anymore sbmm should be a thing but not so strict to the point good players are no longer having fun with the game bo2 for example has sbmm in casual but the sbmm was only for newer players who were acc very bad at the game and good players were still able to have fun in lobbies without sweating their ass off and if they wanted to sweat their ass of they could go play league play which is an acc ranked mode
Precisely
solid points
Love how there is SBMM but all the kids on my team in TDM always go 3-30.
The people who love sbmm unironically generally don't want to improve as players nor want to put in the effort.
The only players in the alpha are the most passionate players in the community, any casual won’t go out their way to play the game early of course people will think SBMM is the problem but the real problem is everyone is just a good player lmao
@@WorldSoldier017 not true, enough videos where people reverse boosted and got in lobbies where everybody was handicapped
@@WorldSoldier017 I know a lot of casuals that played the alpha. Its a free cod game, who wouldnt want to play it?
I'm sorry dude I just have to vouch for the people that can't put enough time to be good enough to beat crimsix on a pub, even if they wanted to do better they don't have the time and losing all the time is not fun for some just like going hard all the time isn't fun either for some people. Good players are just too little compared to all the little Timmy's who buy cod for Christmas, sorry but it's stupid to think they will remove this just for us a little part of the huge playerbase
Ungrown T PS4 players r more of the “sweaty” side 90% of the players were good players
Smackin sweaties brings back way too many memories
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You know skill based matchmaking is bad when you don't get Christmas noobs lol
Dude playing with like a 1.5 to a 1.6 kd is literal hell its like I’m playing for my life every game to even have fun and it’s depressing
Been playing so many single player games thanks to sbmm in multiplayer games. Don’t know if that’s a blessing or a curse but whatever 🤷♂️😂
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It's a blessing man. I love single player games. GTA is insane when you start modding the story mode. Try it if you're on PC.
I've been playing single player games all my life well I've played multiplayer games but only with my brother never really had the chance to play online
I wish that was me, I find joy in destroying kids on video games and having competition
Yep. Going to be playing a lot of Cyberpunk 2077 when it comes out instead of CW.
Yeah the moment you play good you’re straight up getting in lobby’s with sweats 😂
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not only that, but seems like you're getting into a lobby where only the enemy team is actually good and your teammates are just not that good most of the time, you only need to see marskman's stream for proof.
If your fav game stops being fun the moment your enemies are as good as you, the games just straight up trash. Even fucking tic-tac-toe is fun when your opponent is just reatrded and loses all the time.
I have uploaded a method to my channel if ur interested in watching it lol.
@@Ocerry1 Not true at all. I played casual games and wasn't really good but when I had more time and playes longer I got better and won a lot, but also lost a lot. I didn't leave the game because I lost. I straight up deinstalled warzone because I can't survive for longer than ~5 minutes anymore. My kd ism't eben good. SBMM is cranked up so high I get lasered from people while they are 200 meters away with their grau. It is not fair and it is not fun, because that is what happens every round. If I keep on playing this game, I will lose myself at some point. I had to get rid of it.
Kids who support skill based match making are the players who camp with the 725 on MW 2019
Only ogs remember when birdman called us birdmanners
fun fact: in the average lifetime a person will breath in about 44 pounds of dust
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Yum
@@TheWorldsStage 💯
I feel like I'm in a college lecture
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Back when I was 7 and first got in to cod I played against recruit bots, then started playing easy bots, then worked my way up to hard bots. Then I was ready for multiplayer. There should be a training mode for new players and little timmys so they can get better and eventually play multiplayer
Bro word, I am NOT great at CoD but whenever I’m able to spank somebody who outranks me every once in a while, I feel kickass. I hate when max levels just want to pick on lower levels
When they fix sbmm I'll buy cod again
Same I’m passing on Cold War this year
Youll pass on cod until your friends make you get it. Thats what always gets me anyway lmao
Squishy Rex facts
Squishy Rex Lmaooo I gotta save up for the ps5 anyways so not getting any new games.
@@mitchellemerson6916 they stopped buying because they hated MW, we couldn't go wild and have fun, I'm the only one who even considered buying cold war
Clicked faster than my dad’s pullout game
His pullout game is obviously pretty bad considering you are here
Their protecting dudes fragile egos. 2020 there's a lot of soft guys running around.
He literally made no sense. First he said “it’s retarded to assume that players are against SBMM because they don’t wanna play against competition” then he later said “I don’t wanna play against try hards every match.”
He also says that you gotta play with people that are way better than you to get better but he doesn’t like playing try hards who are better than him so he doesn’t believe in his own cod philosophy.
The idea of needing to play people way better than you to get good is also dumb. Look at any sport and they have levels. You won’t become an Nba player because you play with Nba players. That’s not how that works.
I don’t know where the SBMM is. I’m in 30-75 matches
I'm pretty sure he means teams of tryhards, cause without sbmm it would be a mix of good and bad players.
SlowCxmbos that’s 100% subjective though. To someone that’s a lower skill level every single person is way better than you.
"To someone that's a lower skill level every single person is way better than you" that is 100% subjective too, what harm would adding ranked matches do it would literally give people like you exactly what you want just don't play public matches if you think its too hard softy.
@@sw3ty917 this isn’t even about me lil child human. I’m just talking about facts and how most of what he said makes no sense. And I didn’t say anything about not adding ranked. Sbmm and ranked are damn near the same sht. But he hates sbmm and loves ranked. That makes zero sense.
What I like about cod is the mixture of players playing try hards all the time is it fun neither is playing against noobs cod should give you a mixture of both to make it fun that is what makes cod fun
Some people don’t realize that people who defend skmm aren’t just trying to not have their feelings hurt either lmao. I don’t play cod myself but I know for a fact if I don’t have a lot of time to play games and I get a new game and get matched against sweats and people with a 3 kd I’d stop playing that game because it’s not fun. I doubt people are trying to not get their feelings hurt they just want to play the game casually and not get paired against sweats
Bruh isn’t that what SBMM is supposed to do? To avoid matching you up against people who are too high skill or too low skill?
Snop Doge yup
But now you have to play with people in your skill level when you're just trying to have fun and they're tryharding their ass off
DcLaflamaBlanca let’s say you are a lower tier player who just gets on and plays on the weekends a random matchmaking system is also good for you you get to see and play against good and bad players so you can improve if you want to or just chill and play some cod even if there was sbmm you are not going to win every game and you are still going to run into try hards and there may be more of them we’re as in the random system you run into everyone and that is what makes it fun
I’ve been playing since bo2 man and it’s just so shit nowadays bro I just can’t play cod anymore I mean a pub match on bo2 was literally fun af and now bro now I have to sweat every pub match I mean cmon man
I’m curious why people are so against sbmm, like yeah you want to be the best player in the lobby I get that we all do but that makes it no fun for the 6 kids on the other team... you think the developers would rather have you pub stomp 6 kids or have 6 kids play in a competitive game against players their level and have a way better experience playing then getting shit on by good players
@@jackcollins7649 this video answers your question. I'm old compared to these kids nowadays and imo, the older call of duty games were more fun. They were more fun because the experience was varied and changed every time. If it's always hard then it becomes frustrating to play. If it's too easy, the other players get frustrated and we all get that. Thats why we're looking for something right in the middle, the middle has been found in the past with true random lobbies. A ranked mode would mean that those six kids would be playing against people at their level while an unranked mode would be where we can have the more varied and random experience.
Jack Collins those 6 kids on the other team can back out and find a new lobby. People don’t want it so you can play a variety of player good, bad, and average. Tell me, is it fun going 25-20, 22-21, 15-13, etc every game or would it be fun going 40-10, 35-15, 20-5, every now and then with some games going negative?
@@cookazor as someone who supports a little bit of SBMM,I dont think anyone doesnt think it's fun going 40-5 lol,but I've seen someone go 6-108 on bo3,and idc what anyone says,that's not fair lol,it should be there in someway,but nowhere near as strict as it is now
Jack collins in true connection based no skill matchmaking matches are random, so sometimes even bad players can go on huge streaks and sometimes they get fucked. Its an egalitarian system. In sbmm, as you get better the only thing that changes is you need to sweat harder to achieve the same result. It ruins the point of playing the game
Instead of having a system that caters towards the lowest common denominator, promote a culture that makes people strive to improve instead of complaining about being bad and needing a system that accomodates their shitness
Nothing scares me but this “Alright” it frightens me.
I ended up getting really good at Black Ops 2 because I'd constantly play against veteran bots in multiplayer
Even without SBMM majority the sweats and tryhards are all gonna avoid ranked and play pubs with their 6 man using the best guns and trying spawn trap because they can't do nearly as good in ranked or against other good players. I ran into this in bo4 everyday. And majority played like you, where they sit back and camp for streaks using the best guns so I can see why you aren't a fan of it.
With sbmm you can get 6 timmy no thumbs against you right
@@Walamonga1313 especially if you reverse boost or you just get lucky. But typically people who run in parties of other sweats can run lobbies and make shit easier because they all know the maps, have game sense, just all around better teammates making it easy to get map control and spawn trap. Always use to go up against this while solo or duo and my other teammates going double or triple negative
The alpha was the sweatiest sh!t I’ve played all year. My first game I dropped like 60 kills and then all of a sudden ppl slide canceling and bunny hoping non stop making world league plays 😪😪😪 It’s really sad because I like the game this year but sbmm flat out ruins it and I’m just not gonna get it since I know the devs aren’t gonna change it so it’s really a bust 😐
only the sweatiest of players were playing the alpha. Very few noobs or shit players would play the game early
this is the problem u cant just jump on a cod anymore and have fun u gotta sit in all day every day try harding to get anywhere
I’m shit at the game but there are so many smurfs that the low skill players don’t even benefit and when I do good it’s only for about 4-5 matches before I get put against tryhards
A s&d game at my level (.75:1 K/D) is either 6-0/6-1, or 0-6/1-6. 1 out of 15 games is a somewhat close game. It doesn't work how its intended to regardless of skill level.
Destiny removed SBMM and they recorded the highest amount of players ever!
And the matchmaking still sucks lol, I constantly seem to play against people that have some idea of what to do while I get teamed up with scrubs that can't hold a controller lmao
@@fitmale same
That's a terrible example cause destiny's matchmaking is f2p level garbage
If find that it never really feels like I’m getting better, as soon as my KD goes up, the aggressive mw SBMM just puts me with sweatier and sweatier people. Just an endless cycle of:
getting shit on- getting better- going up on SBMM- getting shit on
I posted a method on my channel if interested :).
THIS so hard.
I swear I'm significantly better at shooters than I were when I was a kid, but I will have several lobbies one after the other getting shit on almost as hard as when I was a noob. I kind of feel cheated, when I was a noob I was motivated by the fact that I would one day be the top fragger, but instead you're never allowed to become that since if you're too good for the lobby they send you into the fucking deep end to knock you back down.
What’s so bad about SBMM that it needs to be protested though? From this video all I got was that people preferred not having SBMM, but that there wasn’t anything horribly wrong with it.
Playing the game like your life depends on it every match is horrible, sometimes you might just like to run around the map and try out a bad weapon
Playing against better players doesn’t necessarily make you better at the game. It’s more complex than that. When bad players compete against much better players, they aren’t likely to continue throwing themselves at you, hoping their reaction time will improve with each death - they’re more likely to develop the scummy habits that the majority of CoD players hate, such as prone-camping or using noob weapons.
You say that new players aren’t going to get any better by fighting other new players, but that’s absolutely absurd: they become familiar with the maps, they become familiar with the weapons and equipment, and both their aim and reaction time improve. Due in part to CoD’s low time-to-kill, new players will probably have a lot less time to improve these skills if they’re playing against vastly superior opponents, because they’re dying so often and so fast. Like I said, they’ll just resort to using dishonorable strategies.
You claim that you don’t want to hide from an actual challenge, but then you incriminate yourself at 5:13 - “It’s not that we DON’T wanna play against good players, I just want to be able to choose when I have a fair game and when I get to shit all over everybody else.” So you DO want unfair matches at least some, likely most, of the time?
It’s worth mentioning that CoD players don’t glorify fair play. The vast majority of viral clips involve one highly-skilled player slam-dunking on several people in rapid succession. With SBMM, this isn’t possible, or at least the opportunities for it are very, very rare. So I think the CoD community might depend, to some extent, on the ability to shit on worse players.
THAT would be a tougher argument: “Videos of high-level play encourage noobs to suffer through the process of improvement, so that they can start pulling off the impressive stunts they watch online.” You could say that the unbalanced environment is crucial for maintaining CoD’s appeal - highlight all of CoD’s strong suits, and don’t fight critiques head-on if you don’t necessarily need to beat them.
Is CoD unbalanced? Yes. Do you want to shit on a bunch of worse players? Yes. Is that a bad thing? Depends. As a CoD player, don’t let other people define the battle: “SBMM allows new players to have fun.” It would be more useful (and truthful) to say, “Sure, but it also prevents us pros from making the exact kind of content that motivates them to play at all.”
“You just want to get a bunch of easy kills.” You should say, “Yeah, EXACTLY. Our crazy clips are the reason new players get into the game.”
I feel like SBMM is now giving COD "content creators" a rude awakening on their typically mediocre skill level and instead of actually accepting they weren't the best and were just stomping on kids they rip their hair out because they simply refuse to have to put any effort into the game.
It's like a professional basketball team who only has been playing against highschoolers now having to actually play against appropriate players
Some times it’s fun to get shit on every now and then so you can learn from the dude and see what gun he is using that makes him so affective.
I think you mean "affectionate".
Visstnok lol ok
WHEN BIRDMAN SAID HE WOULD BRING BACK SMACKIN SWEATIES AND THE THINGS I SEE ON TWITTER BUT DOESNT EVEN THO WE GOT THE LIKES LLLLLLLLLLLLL
Well, things I see on Twitter cant happen cus anything that's wild enough to talk about and have him be funny would get flagged for bullying immediately. Go back and watch some of the old stuff from a few years ago like the beauty salon for the whales. Theres NO WAY that would survive the algorithm today and it's sad
Smackin sweaties tho, we need that
@@SuccimusPrime yeah ik iits notthe good old days when he could just roast people but i just want it back badly but he could 100% bring smackin sweaties back in warzone that wouldve been fun asf as a video series
What about making video about Karens and movie Cuties?
Man the system doesn't even work. I get in matches where I either destroy and get an absurd kd or I get on a team where my team mates are like bots and I still do ok but lose the match. Kd is over 2 and my w/l ratio is like 0.8. It doesn't make sense
2 years later and these points will hold up. It’s a shame that we know better than Activision
Man I don't like having to sweat in every match because of SBMM
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>Getting shit on is how you get better. Man up, handicapped kids!
>Wants to play with noobs every (other) game.
Solid logic.
If you don’t want to be matched with players that have the same skill as you then obviously that means you want to kill noobs 😂
Man Up! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Found the camper
@@peytonlee6791 you can just tell they think they’re a god for camping too
@@plugshirt1684 lol exactly
Or it’s because nobody wants to sweat their ass off every single game they play..
@@camo5023 Dude im TRASH and i still get in sweaty lobby every game man. At the end of the day the level of competition has gone up Period because everybody wants to be a gaming RUclipsr now
I’m convinced Ppl defending sbmm have never played the original cods.
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I'm convinced Ppl attacking sbmm have never been in a parking lot knife fight with skinheads.
WTF is this logic?
Gumshon huh? lol
Sometimes I just want a chill game and not someone jumping out of corners with a shotgun and spamming claymore/c4
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here in 2023 and will ya look at that game devs are not only NOT abandoning SBMM but are doubling down on it.
Coming to pornhub: COD veteran gets humiliated by a fat SBMM
didn't play Cold War yet cuz I'm on PC but the new scorestreak system looks hella easy to get choppers lol
Birdman always asks us what's going on. But has anyone stopped to ask Birdman what's going on?
They don't want to make a good competitive mode because If they did, the noobs they're trying to protect will be hard stuck in bronze and their feelings will get hurt.
I have a friend who is absolute trash at COD, but we only play together like once a month. When we queue up together it feels like I am playing against low level players. I am usually top frag when with him, when I am not queued with him it's a whole other story. - Another thing to add is how he always tells me how he feels like he is extremely good when not queued with me, but when he is queued with me he is usually at the bottom of the scoreboard. He's a casual player and we've never even talked about SBMM, he wouldn't even know what that is. We just play to unwind every so often.
Y'all the same people who would probably get into a fistfight with a 12 year lmfao.
We would
If he has it coming them, he's getting dumpstered.
..if SBMM doesn't belong in COD, then there should be an option for those that are new to play against others that match with them if that's what they want. I don't believe they need to be pub stomped in order to "learn"....sorry. Love the vids, but disagree on this one.
You mean ranked?
WAW had multiplayer lobbies for lowbies only.
So you’re talking about ranked play then? Coulda just say that. And could have also said that you just want a participation trophy
@@wreckthefloor6879 this type of though is the issue, lets say my friend wants to start playing the game, and we queue up together and his first experience of the game is getting anally fisted by a lobby og good players, he isnt learning anything, all hes doing is sitting there and complaining about how shit the game is, and it potentially turns new players away. YES they need to face better players to improve, no they dont need to face Chad McThunderCock who spends 14 hours a day learning the ins and outs of every map and knows all the wallbangs. end of the day if you can choose, people are gonna choose pubs because they can stomp, and it makes the game unfun for new players. there needs to be SBMM to a degree so that new players can get their feet wet and explore the game before they get destroyed.
Quality - Games & Music I get what whatcha mean bro. But all I’m saying is I’m not trying to go 110 percent every fucking game. It gets to the point where you plateau and can never tell if you’re getting better or not. And then it becomes not fun. And honestly bro it’s not that hard to get “good” at cod. Like seriously it’s not that fucking hard unless you’re fucking 9. We all started off shit. You see people complaining back in the old games? I want a variety. And you just want a participation trophy
how about instead of having a ranked and non ranked mode we just call it sbmm mode and connection mode
For a player just learning the basic mechanics of the game should not be dropped in with max lvl players. Let SBMM rock till level 10 then let the mayhem begin.
It’s not about protecting feelings if I’m playing against someone on faze tryouts I’m not going to keep playing plenty of other games to play
If every game you played before sbmm was a thing felt like faze tryouts that’s says something about you
@@Draughtsatsuma6 I average 1.0+ kd’s it says exactly what I said it did I don’t spend 12+ hours on the same game I shouldn’t have to go up against that I should be based with people who play the same amount of hours and have similar stats
@@disguisedpickle1360 please use some punctuation. I felt like I was having a stroke trying to read that
@@Draughtsatsuma6 it’s the internet your expecting English majors ?
@@disguisedpickle1360 nah I'm expecting people who passed the third grade lmao
smacking sweaties series was how I found about your channel. EDIT: why I'm still subbed
Cod without sbmm is how you learn the game and get better. Also thats why nobody plays ranked. Its like we're playing comp in pubs.
Lemme catch my son trying to argue over keeping his little CoD kiddy pool so the big kids don’t beat him
My 55 year old dad plays call of duty, he works full time and also has other responsibilities, he probably gets in a total of 1.5 hours per week, he can get better at the game but very slowly, I know for a fact that if there was no SBMM he wouldn’t enjoy the game, and I want him to enjoy it. Those are the people skill based matchmaking is meant to protect, not the gaming youtubers and professional players.
I do agree that modern warfare and probely cold wars skill based match making is a little much but sbmm helps the longevity of a cod game so that when you play a new player starts playing the game there not up against a level 1000 player
Exactly, literally my first game of bo3 several years after release, I had so many level 1000s in my game. Just not enjoyable.
Let’s be real, SBMM doesn’t match up good and good or bad and bad. It matches up people based almost solely on KD, and the people with the best KD are people who camp dark corners. That’s why MW was just not that good of a game. TDM games were literally ground to time limit almost every single game
They should give you an option to choose if you wanna play against people around your level(sbmm) or not
Let me catch my son playing with his big toe
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@@stillflux6663 nice vid
So who’s been bullied for their kd?
Come on guys come clean
I agree that they should have a ranked and unranked but I really don’t think they should remove skill based matchmaking as I personally find playing against people my level in all games. You will play better players as your KD goes up and that’s better . An example of this is Tom Clancy’s rainbow six siege where skill based matchmaking is a thing and it makes it more fun but you can play ranked if you want to get competitive.
I don't think it's just COD, it's bad for any game. Just the thought of being forced to tryhard or get swept isn't really fun in any type of setting. And the actual decent/good players have to deal with this.
Call of Duty community: Wait, SBMM has been in Call of Duty since Black Ops 2?
Activision: Always has been.
Black ops 2 had very light sbmm level 60s won’t go against level 1s they will go against level 15s and bo2 had boot camp were new players go against ai and other new players
nah they didnt it was just sweaty in november and after that the lobby became normal
i was playing on a brand new account the other day and was in matches with master prestige’s
Who ACTUALLY asked for SBMM
Mr. Donald, a large shareholder of activision. He told infinity ward to cater to babies
noobs
@@catears3053 I’m a noob at cod because I haven’t watched played since bo3 and I hate SBMM it’s hard to improve if all you face are noobs. As much as I hate getting destroyed at the beginning it helped me improve.
Not players
The absolute worst argument is when people say 'well look at sports they have leagues so the best teams don't play the worst teams' yeah but they'll always be a few bad teams in the league! Imagine bottom of the league in the NBA saying there not playing against LeBron because he is much better than all of there players just imagine 🤣😂
You say it! In sports there are actually LEAGUES. So SBMM in ranked is just fine.
But public matches should be like meetig each other at the backyard and having fun, no matter how good you are.
SBMM in public matches is like excluding people on the court because of their skilllevel...
Cod has always been better when Pubs were the focus instead of competitive. I miss that