I like the pause after the boys laughing as if Joan is letting them get it out of their systems so they can be paying attention when she obliterates their whole existence. Damn.
I really like how she says, "It takes a brave person to do something anonymously." Then I wish she could have connected that thought with the Vietnam part by adding something like, "Oh who am I kidding you guys are probably a bunch of draft-dodgers anyway! Go enjoy your new jobs in Canada, boys!" No matter what, what she did was perfect by calling attention to the fact that no one wanted to take responsibility for their actions.
That's why she said it. For them to feel fear. It was also her way of saying "I can't wait until you are shot and dying in Vietnam" without actually saying it.
middle and upper rich white men like them didn't have to fear Vietnam, in perspective, but back then they didn't have that knowledge and nuclear WW3 martial law forced recruitment was a possibility. of course society would expect them to go as well, consciences objection was only for the amish and sorts at that time. so it's possible I think that was something they actually feared.
Weirdly enough, the "edgelords" shrugged off her contemplating them getting drafted to a war that serves no purpose and possibly getting maimed over a cartoon. There's a lesson in there. I'm sure of it.
@@marty2090 the lesson is karma. One gender gets to humiliate, earn more and step over the other simply due to biology. But the same gender is drafted to fight massas war. In patriarchy, even power has a price.
Yeah. She slept with bosses and clients to get ahead. They made a joke and she wants the to die in war as punishment. But you're right. How dare those evil men!?
I can't even count how many times some man has said or done something like that to me or another woman I've known and and had the exact same "come on, it's a joke" response. Some things never change.
1st. Your user name is awesome 2nd. I hope you reported their asses because jokes like that are intolerable. Sounds like a bunch of suckas with no game.
“It’s a Joke” is an excuse to cover for their insecurity of being rejected. It’s not ever really a joke but them expressing their desire but not wanting to be held accountable to it
Joan is one of, if not the most sharp minded on the show. Possibly even smarter than Don. It's subtle but really shows when you pay attention to her rich command of vocabulary and ability to read people. Her incisive insults here are chefs kiss. 😮
This scene is powerful because it highlights the self-impossed oppression men put on each other (war draft, etc). And how they cope with this degrading situation by pretending they are "defending" women and children don't even like or care about them whatsoever.
Well, it depends... there are plenty of men whose womenfolk care deeply about them. Also, nowadays it's not just men who fight in wars. Joan wanted to highlight how cushy they had it, being able to even afford acting as cowards in an office job, whereas the war and the jungle would show up how spineless they probably were.
@danielaf1487 Pretending women fight in wars is massively disingenuous. Look at Ukraine, and Russia. Women may participate in wars but they largely do not fight. I don't know why it's hard for some people to admit that.
I’m sorry not sorry-Christina Hendricks is a fine actress but also a total smokeshow. Those curves. BUT … the scene was well-written and Joan put the fear of God into those assholes. Rightfully.
One of the things I loved about this show is the comparison and contrast between the past and the present. Even with laws in place, some places still allow this type of culture to reign behind closed doors
@@BestWayKillaya I'm not sure why someone like her is even appalled. She regularly bends over in view of executive team all the time usually in a red dreas.... I think she was insulted it came from the juniors and not the management.
Guys don't like it when someone dismisses their wellbeing, but they find it funny to do it to others. Would've been really funny to see drawings of blown up soldiers after they come back from war. Same logic
Been watching this series again recently & Im having difficulty relating to Don as the main character, he's just a drunk who can't keep it in his pants & a bit of an arsehole
He’s a terrible person. If he wasn’t good looking he’d be seen as what he is which is a sociopath. I found the scene where he’s touching the grass trying to “connect” with the teacher’s feet VERY creepy. Just because you had a bad childhood doesn’t mean you get to gaslight, push out, or runaway from everyone in your life.
@@Jules2439.5 Been watching them all again & in one of the later seasons he stalks his ex-girlfriend who is also the wife of his friend who lives in the same apartment building
Can someone tell me if globally, the idea of being disgusting, insulting and/or moronic to try making someone interested in you, is a concept that died down at least a bit ?
SHE was always my favorite character on the show. She represented what women had to go through. Men like this are basically school boys with a school boy mentality. WE still have guys like this around . Low class, or no class. They're called MAGA !
Next time I see a Boomer grandma talk about the "good 'ol days" I'll send them this clip. The 40s-90s were great for WHITE MEN and pretty shitty for everyone else.
So the 40s-90s were great for pretty much the only people who've actually got anything of importance done throughout history, gee I wonder why things are going downhill for the US on the world stage since the 90s. Sure is a mystery LOL
It's more about degrading them for being male. A lot of guys have this fantasy that they are fighting in wars to defend "women and children" when in reality these women couldn't care less about them.
A bunch of man-babies in an office s*xually harassing a work colleague isn't consequences for anything. There's no logic in your comment. Unless you meant her reminding them that they have it easy, then yes, you're right.
@@rtphotos4691 It's ok to cry (long as you're not a man) but it doesn't mean anything you said is right, in fact literally everything you said is the inverse of right, but that's ok
Great idea. Make fun of the woman who blows the r most powerful man in the company. What’s the worst that could happen? Nah if anything you be her friend
Like most women, Joan used her body as a way to a better life, and the men simply responded. After all she could have told them to go to H... kept her self-respect and found a different job in ( Season 5) but self-respect was too expensive so she negotiated her dignity away at a lower price. It's just business 🤑
@Wynn Tell the women that! If she not him, decides to use her body as a commodity, men only decide if they are willing to negotiate, pay or walk away. That's the way its been since Adam and Eve.
@@deevee4994 - I was alive back when there were no laws against s*xual harassment. Women couldn't just "find another job." If you reported it, you got fired and the perpetrators kept their jobs. No one should have to leave their job because men can't do straight business without objectifying women.
Stephen Mason, He was fired bc he offended a superior. Sexual harassment includes ppl around. Only an idiot offends and then questions the judgment of someone with power in their workplace.
Well, let's see... Joan had a damn baby with Roger Sterling, she slept with the Jaguar dealer guy to become partner, and we also know that she had a previous relationship with Paul Kinsey. That's three strikes and a helluva lot of smoke for a fire. So what's really out of bounds about pointing that kind of thing out? She can get mad all she wants, but the shoe fits.
loveandlucky3, I was just saying she doesn't really have any room to talk, the criticism/joke has merit and she knows it, which I presume is why she just wanted to say what she did to them but not press it further. Peggy ends up pushing the issue, getting the guy fired, and Joan scolds her for it... shocking Peggy in the elevator and calling her a "humorless bitch" ruclips.net/video/hIwpTt6JdhQ/видео.html
So what's your point then? Exactly, she had a go at them but didn't want to push it further bc she's a strong lady. But you're saying she's a hoe anyway so why should she react at all? Lol what? Btw the actual point is no one's putting any pics up on Don Draper's door, so there's the double standard and that's why she bit their heads off.
Yeah like this conversation would've ever happened in 1964. Women knew their place back then. They would've saw the drawing, taken it down, thrown it in the trash and kept their mouth shut because that was their place.
This has very little to do with the 1960s, and so much to do with 2010. Don’t try to rewrite history and pass it off as some sort of genius. It only ends up looking pretentious.
what? are you high? you try writing a show that great, wtf do you know about office behavior in 1965? or how to write a million times Emmy award winning show?
@@paulinegallagher7821 Ah, yes: “it received a lot of awards, so it must be as great as they say it is.” I know nothing *directly* about office life in 1965. Then again, neither do the writers of this show. What we DO have - since, you know, the 60s weren’t that long ago - are countless books, testimonials, films from that time ABOUT that time. Watch those. This is garbage by contrast.
@@paulinegallagher7821 Yes, I like to form my own opinion. Sue me. “It is objectively one of the best shows ever made.” That’s a ridiculous comment. It’s consistently ranked as a high show, but those *are not objective lists* simply because there are no such things. *All* of this is subjective. It’s a very *popular* show. It made a lot of money. The profit statistics are objectively verifiable. That doesn’t make anything “good”.
@@paulinegallagher7821 What I CAN write with reasonable assurance is the extent to which this show is reflecting the era in which it’s set. THAT was the observation that I was making in my original post: that it isn’t reflecting the 60s. That-if anything-it reflects a contemporary wish fulfillment about what the 60s was like.
I don't see how that was a burn or why they seemed to care. And this is an era when men really really didn't give a shit about how women felt or thought in the workforce. SN: Before its said...it's not as bad now as it was back then. Back then you could pinch a chick on the ass and get a raise. Now you say hello to a woman and have to attend a seminar.
Seems like men still don't really care. This helps verify my theory that most men are sort of just soulless ghouls. Have you ever actually made real love to a woman? Have you ever even wanted to? Men like you (most men) genuinely live and die not seeing certain colors. You're blind to like... 50% of the rich tapestry that's supposed to be the human experience.
Her dresses are as tight as skinny women's dresses. The fact that you "can't help" but view them differently is not her problem And your selective amnesia includes the many times management admitted she kept the place running. Via her job, not the dresses you're obsessed with
Interesting how the women had no fear of being drafted into the military, to be forced into combat and potential death in a fight not of their making. The fact that she brandished that privilege to correct a sexist insult seems a bit over the top.
Nope. An eye for an eye. If men want to have the privilege of being seen as some kind of hero/protector by default, (which, let's face it, most women back then were actually that as they were ACTUALLY raising the kids and protecting them on the daily. Men only do that in specific circumstances, like war or a burglary.) then they should be ready for it to be thrown into their lap at any time. Why do men insist on getting all the praise in society, while trying to do the bare minimum of the work? These women were still dealing with what it means to be a woman and dealing with sexism, child bearing, child raising, homemaking, all while the men INSIST on still being treated like hot shot "providers" when they're working their cozy office jobs that any woman could work and 90% of the time just screwing around.
She was making a point. She said, "you will be pining for the days that someone was trying to make your lives easier." As for women in combat, that's life for women. As for wars, women are drafted into every war men have created.
for women mocked when they open their legs to the office is the same level of trauma it is for men being shot at in a trench in Vietnam. The proof is here in this comment section
amazing. only a woman can respond to a vulgar joke with a sincere curse and wish for a terrible death in the most cowardly context and then feel morally right. and also receive thousands of words of encouragement from other women in the comments.
I love Joan's soft 'bring hell down on you' voice. It's has such a wonderful punch.
facts
@@skatedurr
There was only one point so it would be “fact” not “facts”
I like the pause after the boys laughing as if Joan is letting them get it out of their systems so they can be paying attention when she obliterates their whole existence. Damn.
Just like those machine guns in Vietnam :)
she is so brave wishing them to go die beause they did a silly cartoon
Honestly, fighting for women was a mistake. Why even bother protecting them from savages.
Same. She's just such a boss.
I really like how she says, "It takes a brave person to do something anonymously." Then I wish she could have connected that thought with the Vietnam part by adding something like, "Oh who am I kidding you guys are probably a bunch of draft-dodgers anyway! Go enjoy your new jobs in Canada, boys!" No matter what, what she did was perfect by calling attention to the fact that no one wanted to take responsibility for their actions.
Oh yes... They had it coming. Not only disrespecful but a very coward thing to do.
Hahahaha
There Just Frustrated because Joan wouldn't Give any of them Some
@@jalenikezeue4114sounds like it. They’re like a couple of frat boys
They actually look scared when she mentions Vietnam!
Thanks to journalist and brand new comunication device in their times , war become more real to people
And rightly so... Vietnam was...😶😶😶
That's why she said it. For them to feel fear. It was also her way of saying "I can't wait until you are shot and dying in Vietnam" without actually saying it.
@traceycontinelli4800 the white feather is alive and well
middle and upper rich white men like them didn't have to fear Vietnam, in perspective, but back then they didn't have that knowledge and nuclear WW3 martial law forced recruitment was a possibility. of course society would expect them to go as well, consciences objection was only for the amish and sorts at that time.
so it's possible I think that was something they actually feared.
“It’s a joke.” - the rallying cry of every edgelord who wants to fuck around without finding out
A bully's defense.
Weirdly enough, the "edgelords" shrugged off her contemplating them getting drafted to a war that serves no purpose and possibly getting maimed over a cartoon. There's a lesson in there. I'm sure of it.
@@marty2090 the lesson is karma. One gender gets to humiliate, earn more and step over the other simply due to biology. But the same gender is drafted to fight massas war. In patriarchy, even power has a price.
People who oppose edgelords have never been in fights, guarantee it.
Yeah. She slept with bosses and clients to get ahead. They made a joke and she wants the to die in war as punishment.
But you're right. How dare those evil men!?
I can't even count how many times some man has said or done something like that to me or another woman I've known and and had the exact same "come on, it's a joke" response. Some things never change.
1st. Your user name is awesome
2nd. I hope you reported their asses because jokes like that are intolerable. Sounds like a bunch of suckas with no game.
Stfu
“It’s a Joke” is an excuse to cover for their insecurity of being rejected.
It’s not ever really a joke but them expressing their desire but not wanting to be held accountable to it
@@raspberryPi1337 No! :)
I don't believe you hehe
She had to gather her thoughts as if she's reloading on ammo. She was ready to kill and man oh man, BLOOD EVERYWHERE. That's my girl.
"It's a joke." The favorite line of gaslighters since time began.
so it wasn't a joke?
Do you even know what gaslighting really is?
@@cucinare-da-zero dO yOu EveN kNoW wHaT gAsLiGhTiNg rEaLlY iS? 🤡
@@RadCenter I mean I'm not trying to be a butt about it... but you could just look it up
"Don't worry, I'm not going home" 😂😂😂
A propos of nothing: that's one of Peggy's best outfits.
I agree.
I lived Joan’s dress 👗 as well as what she said
Amen!😮
Peggy followed behind Joan like a kid after snitching on a sibling, lmao.
She felt bad 😅
No one could've played Joan better than her.
I always loved how gentle her voice is, she can be so threatening and cutthroat without even raising her voice, it hits you even harder
I like Peggy’s dress
Her body is better
I like Joan’s even more.
Joan is one of, if not the most sharp minded on the show. Possibly even smarter than Don. It's subtle but really shows when you pay attention to her rich command of vocabulary and ability to read people. Her incisive insults here are chefs kiss. 😮
Joan's walk....dammm
She's so beautiful.
As she walks away, one can imagine hearing a faint drum beat.....boom, ba-da boom, ba-da, boom, ba-da boom.......
The irony of this kind of comment on this clip.
@@haute03 gonna cry?
I love this scene. One of the most memorable and badass Joan moments. They totally had it coming.
But it was nothing. Everyone is acting like she did something. They were unbothered.
@@peekaboots01if they were that “unbothered” they would’ve laughed. They were silent and tried to dismiss it as a joke
@@maridelmar22 Absolutely. It clearly sobered them up.
@@maridelmar22and back in the real world they'd have laughed her out the room
Great scene
This scene is powerful because it highlights the self-impossed oppression men put on each other (war draft, etc). And how they cope with this degrading situation by pretending they are "defending" women and children don't even like or care about them whatsoever.
Well, it depends... there are plenty of men whose womenfolk care deeply about them. Also, nowadays it's not just men who fight in wars. Joan wanted to highlight how cushy they had it, being able to even afford acting as cowards in an office job, whereas the war and the jungle would show up how spineless they probably were.
@danielaf1487 Pretending women fight in wars is massively disingenuous. Look at Ukraine, and Russia. Women may participate in wars but they largely do not fight. I don't know why it's hard for some people to admit that.
Joan... 🤣🤣🤣 the best woman in all the season! I love her!
She whored to get a partnership
It’s a very brave person that does something anonymous
When I saw this the first time, I was holy shit. But those boys had it coming.
And they only felt bad when peggy said something! Typical
are you for real
not even then... 'it's a joke'... what a bunch of children
They all knew men who died in Vietnam, or came back maimed. And they could be drafted, yet.
DAYUM! Peggy warned them. 🤷🏾♂️
I’m sorry not sorry-Christina Hendricks is a fine actress but also a total smokeshow. Those curves. BUT … the scene was well-written and Joan put the fear of God into those assholes. Rightfully.
This woman is a goddess!❤️
I second that. Joan is a sexy badass
Christina Hendricks is superb. Love her!
One of the things I loved about this show is the comparison and contrast between the past and the present. Even with laws in place, some places still allow this type of culture to reign behind closed doors
women still expect men to be drafted.
It would've been even better had they shown these three guys getting cut to shreds in Vietnam in the next season.
All because one of them made a dirty drawing? Which wasn't even inaccurate? That's more than a little fucked up.
@@BestWayKillaya I'm not sure why someone like her is even appalled.
She regularly bends over in view of executive team all the time usually in a red dreas.... I think she was insulted it came from the juniors and not the management.
Guys don't like it when someone dismisses their wellbeing, but they find it funny to do it to others. Would've been really funny to see drawings of blown up soldiers after they come back from war. Same logic
@@theanimator85 - Exactly. They laugh at others, but then want special treatment if you dish it back to them.
@@theanimator85то есть ты равняешь унижение доминированием с принудительным убийством?
Joan is awesome!
What a fucking woman🖤
Today that would be cause for termination.
Some places would fire her instead for wasting others' money and time.
@@MrJuan_Vzla - Sadly, this is true, which is why there are s*xual harassment laws to protect victims of those who create hostile work environments.
@MrJuan_Vzla yeah they looked reeeal busy
The sexual harassment or getting publicly called out for it?
@@MrJuan_VzlaIf they fired her over this, she could have their asses so hard in court today.
Scorched earth, indeed.
coldest monologue
SNAPPPPP
It didn't seem all that mean to me, though they deserved it.
Sophia A woah, calm down feminazi
@@50shekels Did someone at the nursing home let you play with the computer? That's so cute!
@GuildBankLooter You and Galileo are due for your evening prune juice.
Tracymmo It’s a jpeg you intolerable wankstain
@GuildBankLooter I'm sorry for whoever birthed you :/
Been watching this series again recently & Im having difficulty relating to Don as the main character, he's just a drunk who can't keep it in his pants & a bit of an arsehole
good job you've evolved a bit
@@sinch4044 Don't remember being particularly sexist
He’s a terrible person. If he wasn’t good looking he’d be seen as what he is which is a sociopath. I found the scene where he’s touching the grass trying to “connect” with the teacher’s feet VERY creepy. Just because you had a bad childhood doesn’t mean you get to gaslight, push out, or runaway from everyone in your life.
@@Jules2439.5 Been watching them all again & in one of the later seasons he stalks his ex-girlfriend who is also the wife of his friend who lives in the same apartment building
@@stephenclarke2206 Not accurate, AT ALL.
Baddest bitch ever.
Can someone tell me if globally, the idea of being disgusting, insulting and/or moronic to try making someone interested in you, is a concept that died down at least a bit ?
I don't know what those guys expected
It's only a joke if both people are laughing.
12/21\17 I just see the episode..omg
Scorched earth indeed.
did any of them die?
Hopefully.
Fingers crossed 🤞🏼
How is that a joke?
ask the incels in this comment section. btw, Joan just joked about Vietnam, don’t take it seriously 😉😉😉
OMG…. Incel TISMS…. You think that’s a burn?…..
@@ad7265 making fun of women for being promiscuous = bad. making fun of men for being the opposite = good
@@SpuddyWesker where does "making fun of men for being the opposite=good" in office come from?
It's not, it's just a natural defense from assholes when they get called out
SHE was always my favorite character on the show. She represented what women had to go through. Men like this are basically school boys with a school boy mentality. WE still have guys like this around . Low class, or no class. They're called MAGA !
Yes because NO democrats are sex pests who degrade women for laughs, no siree.
Next time I see a Boomer grandma talk about the "good 'ol days" I'll send them this clip. The 40s-90s were great for WHITE MEN and pretty shitty for everyone else.
The 90s was when it got better, actually. I remember consciously noticing it, somehow... I was very young back then, but I remember it.
So the 40s-90s were great for pretty much the only people who've actually got anything of importance done throughout history, gee I wonder why things are going downhill for the US on the world stage since the 90s. Sure is a mystery LOL
Commone Joan, it's just a prank bro.
I know this a serious scene but damn she looks good in that dress
And just how is she gonna send them to Vietnam?
It's more about degrading them for being male. A lot of guys have this fantasy that they are fighting in wars to defend "women and children" when in reality these women couldn't care less about them.
Men who actually do stuff like that and say it’s a joke what was the joke?
Crazy Mad...
All that and they still don't get the message or twist it so she wronged them
sounds about right
Holy shit!
Well that's just a scolding the idiot in the chair gets fired too.
Is Joey had obviously issues with his own mother he for no reason took out on joan and he thought to much of himself
Joan is mad because they're right. She has been sleeping with Roger to get up there
That's quite the anonymous snipe at Joan. Very meta.
@@yarnover now back to the topic, are they wrong though? (no they're not)
@@user-bn6lm8ng3v consequences for peoples actions aren't ok. it's 2025
She is such a Taurus
She gives me scorpio vibes though or Virgo because she’s a perfectionist.
@@wisdomseeker0142 Earth signs are very perfectionist. Her actress is a Taurus and it shines through a lot in this scene
@@Camille-ff3er how come..?
@@Camille-ff3er Nah, tauruses are three things: angry, hungry and horny lol. And way too lazy to be Joan :')
She was born in February if I remember correctly
Give new meaning to the phrase, "Bombshell."
It was just a bit of fun! Oh you're probably right, as usual
Bilbo?
Bilbo Baggins 😂
That one guy is on The Conners now.
0:11
What are They 4th Graders
no they're just women
People often get mad when the truth about their behaviour manifests in consequences, in this case the drawing
A bunch of man-babies in an office s*xually harassing a work colleague isn't consequences for anything. There's no logic in your comment. Unless you meant her reminding them that they have it easy, then yes, you're right.
@@rtphotos4691 It's ok to cry (long as you're not a man) but it doesn't mean anything you said is right, in fact literally everything you said is the inverse of right, but that's ok
Why did she wear the pen?
Truth hurts I suppose...
Great idea. Make fun of the woman who blows the r most powerful man in the company. What’s the worst that could happen? Nah if anything you be her friend
Hey Lois
Like they would have ended up in Viet Nam.....
sad they didn’t show them getting blasted to dust in Vietnam lol dieeeee
2020-2022
The drawing was a preview of what she was WILLING to do for the jaguar account in season 5.
Ironic given you look at the woman’s behaviour and not what the man is willing to give up for sex.
Like most women, Joan used her body as a way to a better life, and the men simply responded. After all she could have told them to go to H... kept her self-respect and found a different job in ( Season 5) but self-respect was too expensive so she negotiated her dignity away at a lower price. It's just business 🤑
@Wynn Tell the women that! If she not him, decides to use her body as a commodity, men only decide if they are willing to negotiate, pay or walk away. That's the way its been since Adam and Eve.
@@deevee4994 - I was alive back when there were no laws against s*xual harassment. Women couldn't just "find another job." If you reported it, you got fired and the perpetrators kept their jobs. No one should have to leave their job because men can't do straight business without objectifying women.
@@deevee4994look over here! We got a religious incel edgelord guys!
God what's wrong with these comments....
Ugh Peggy could have done so much better.
The sexiest imagery ever put to film
That drawing was so dang funny. I remember laughing so hard seeing it.
@The_RadicalOne - wow, that's an unusual way of saying "I am an idiot"
Congrats you have the humor of a 12 year old
@@CBoapinta I'm an idiot because I laughed at a drawing? Ok....
@@Jules2439.5 Ok?
@@The_RadicalOneчто смешного в этом рисунке?
Except that throughout the show she did do that kind of thing around work... just saying
Stephen Mason, He was fired bc he offended a superior. Sexual harassment includes ppl around. Only an idiot offends and then questions the judgment of someone with power in their workplace.
Well, let's see... Joan had a damn baby with Roger Sterling, she slept with the Jaguar dealer guy to become partner, and we also know that she had a previous relationship with Paul Kinsey. That's three strikes and a helluva lot of smoke for a fire. So what's really out of bounds about pointing that kind of thing out? She can get mad all she wants, but the shoe fits.
I think the point is the double standard. It wasn't the men she was sleeping with they were criticising. It was her.
loveandlucky3, I was just saying she doesn't really have any room to talk, the criticism/joke has merit and she knows it, which I presume is why she just wanted to say what she did to them but not press it further. Peggy ends up pushing the issue, getting the guy fired, and Joan scolds her for it... shocking Peggy in the elevator and calling her a "humorless bitch"
ruclips.net/video/hIwpTt6JdhQ/видео.html
So what's your point then? Exactly, she had a go at them but didn't want to push it further bc she's a strong lady. But you're saying she's a hoe anyway so why should she react at all? Lol what? Btw the actual point is no one's putting any pics up on Don Draper's door, so there's the double standard and that's why she bit their heads off.
Yeah, but just remember, Joanie, I'm not going to Vietnam. I'm a tourist in Canada
Like women dont joke around like that about men, tf outta here.
They do bro
Yeah like this conversation would've ever happened in 1964. Women knew their place back then. They would've saw the drawing, taken it down, thrown it in the trash and kept their mouth shut because that was their place.
This has very little to do with the 1960s, and so much to do with 2010. Don’t try to rewrite history and pass it off as some sort of genius. It only ends up looking pretentious.
what? are you high? you try writing a show that great, wtf do you know about office behavior in 1965? or how to write a million times Emmy award winning show?
@@paulinegallagher7821 Ah, yes: “it received a lot of awards, so it must be as great as they say it is.”
I know nothing *directly* about office life in 1965. Then again, neither do the writers of this show. What we DO have - since, you know, the 60s weren’t that long ago - are countless books, testimonials, films from that time ABOUT that time. Watch those. This is garbage by contrast.
@@spb7883 Mad Men is garbage? its objectively one of the best shows ever made. If you think its garbage, you have no idea what a good tv show is.
@@paulinegallagher7821 Yes, I like to form my own opinion. Sue me.
“It is objectively one of the best shows ever made.” That’s a ridiculous comment. It’s consistently ranked as a high show, but those *are not objective lists* simply because there are no such things. *All* of this is subjective. It’s a very *popular* show. It made a lot of money. The profit statistics are objectively verifiable. That doesn’t make anything “good”.
@@paulinegallagher7821 What I CAN write with reasonable assurance is the extent to which this show is reflecting the era in which it’s set. THAT was the observation that I was making in my original post: that it isn’t reflecting the 60s. That-if anything-it reflects a contemporary wish fulfillment about what the 60s was like.
Do women really think getting angry at a drawing is "winning"?
reading their teary comments on this video is an emphatic yes to your question
Women!
I don't see how that was a burn or why they seemed to care. And this is an era when men really really didn't give a shit about how women felt or thought in the workforce.
SN: Before its said...it's not as bad now as it was back then. Back then you could pinch a chick on the ass and get a raise. Now you say hello to a woman and have to attend a seminar.
They probably cared because conscription ain't no joke lmao
Seems like men still don't really care. This helps verify my theory that most men are sort of just soulless ghouls. Have you ever actually made real love to a woman? Have you ever even wanted to? Men like you (most men) genuinely live and die not seeing certain colors. You're blind to like... 50% of the rich tapestry that's supposed to be the human experience.
Yeah it was nothing. It wasn't a burn. They shrugged off those little words. I expected more rage and somebody being fired or a slap, or... something.
Who else agree mandatory draft for women?
She seemed pretty upset for someone whose job consists almost solely of wearing the tightest dress possible
If your mom have a body like that, she'd dress like that too.
Her dresses are as tight as skinny women's dresses. The fact that you "can't help" but view them differently is not her problem
And your selective amnesia includes the many times management admitted she kept the place running. Via her job, not the dresses you're obsessed with
Interesting how the women had no fear of being drafted into the military, to be forced into combat and potential death in a fight not of their making. The fact that she brandished that privilege to correct a sexist insult seems a bit over the top.
Nope. An eye for an eye. If men want to have the privilege of being seen as some kind of hero/protector by default, (which, let's face it, most women back then were actually that as they were ACTUALLY raising the kids and protecting them on the daily. Men only do that in specific circumstances, like war or a burglary.) then they should be ready for it to be thrown into their lap at any time. Why do men insist on getting all the praise in society, while trying to do the bare minimum of the work? These women were still dealing with what it means to be a woman and dealing with sexism, child bearing, child raising, homemaking, all while the men INSIST on still being treated like hot shot "providers" when they're working their cozy office jobs that any woman could work and 90% of the time just screwing around.
She was making a point. She said, "you will be pining for the days that someone was trying to make your lives easier."
As for women in combat, that's life for women. As for wars, women are drafted into every war men have created.
for women mocked when they open their legs to the office is the same level of trauma it is for men being shot at in a trench in Vietnam. The proof is here in this comment section
This still happens in various forms
And then it was in crayon 🥱😒
amazing. only a woman can respond to a vulgar joke with a sincere curse and wish for a terrible death in the most cowardly context and then feel morally right. and also receive thousands of words of encouragement from other women in the comments.