Both have pluses and minuses imo. The danger with NOT pivoting at all is it puts alot of stress on your knee and can cause injuries. If you ever watch boxers who "dont pivot" they lift their foot up slightly, its a less pronounced pivot. Pivoting fully is slower when rechambering but you can put alot more power into it imo. The less pronounced pivot where you lift your foot slightly is faster and tighter, but you get less torque so it doesn't have as much power imo. I think it really is situational or a matter of personal preference. Both are correct in their own ways.
You can make up for it by twisting your torso which has the added benefit of giving you more reach and engaging the powerful twisting muscles of your back and core.
Agreed. Like you said, both have their pros and cons and each person needs to find what suits him/her best. I like to pivot, not pivoting would mean I would destroy my knee and not be able to produce as much torque.
Love it, exactly what I want to see from this channel. More advanced stuff and drills that we actually do in sparring instead of drilling completely differently from sparring. Great topic targeting lol.
Very insightful. I am a beginner and I struggle to generate maximum powered and torque with my lead hook. Hard pivoting on the front foot never felt natural to me. I had an “aha” moment when my coach helped me throw my chest/shoulders into the shot more and turn my hips into the punch. I felt like I was able to turn my hips over without sliding my foot that much and when I did, it just felt like it threw me off balance and put an awkward and unnecessary inward bend in my knee. Most of the time I still pivot my front foot ever so slightly. I just don’t really do that exaggerated sliding movement they always seem to teach and when I try to throw it that way just because it seems “correct”…. all my power disappears. My coach didn’t really hammer the front foot thing that hard though, he just emphasized the hip movement more than anything. Anyways, I’m a total beginner with no clue what I’m doing so this gives me a lot to chew on and I really appreciate it! 💯
Your form is beautiful. When I throw hooks, I reach further than you do because when sparring, the opponent is never that close. If they are, I throw an elbow, but then I do MMA.
I first saw coach Tom Yankello talk about this a few years back. Understanding the physics/mechanics behind techniques can take you to the next level. It gives you the structure from which creativity and innovation can flourish.
This makes me feel so much better, I have no experience but I’m interested in boxing and if you’ve played basketball they tell you on the “ball” of the toe that you lose all balance and strength and when I went and they taught me how to throw a hook I told him that, they said I was wrong and I knew I wasn’t and I left the gym immediately because there’s no way in EVERY other sport they tell you not to do that but in boxing it’s all of a sudden a “power move” 😂 thank god I’m not a no XP student who’s crazy
@@Natsuke1104 from that position you have few threats, so it's easier to keep track, and you can duck to avoid them. Deliberate head movement beats mechanical head movement, since the later can be tracked and used against you. For me, everytime I finish a combo with the lead hook I jump a step back
when you're cultivating, pivot both feet. then step out. then drop your weight. then do it without rotation. Feel your body and the flow of transferring kinetic energy into a punch. understand what your body does when you connect with a solid target, when you skim, and when you whiff. how does your body rebound into a hook before/after combination? play with a vertical fist, a horizontal, inverted hook. Explore the movement and know it, and when it's time to apply just Hit. Also, if you're doing this outside of optimal training scenarios like a ring you need to first establish your relationship with the ground. How you stand will change from comfy mats to being on gravel or ice. I personally believe in cultivated pivoting both feet, but my training follows all ten toes to the target unless I'm somewhere slippery. play with a low hook to the ribs rebounding to a hook to the face. Make your movements efficient! Progressive indirect, play with starting a jab and changing into a hook without retracting the hand. If you're training outside of boxing, train your hook, but also train your backfist (not spinning lol). opening a coiled body to the outside has immense power; just like closing. to my knowledge a backlist is illegal in the sport of boxing though. Lots of things to explore^^
I pivot on check hooks because if you're planted, you're in the pocket too long and need to be on the move to get out of a corner of off the ropes. I rarely throw a regular left hook because of my shoulder. One punch I cant throw consistently without getting winged.
You need the torque (twisting force) you get in the pivot and weight transfer. Sit down into it, Where there's weight there's power. This is what has worked for me.
Your feet seem to be on a pretty narrow band. If that works for you that's good. I was taught to basically always keep my feet on a "square" and as a result if I pivot my lead foot, I never overturn myself, since my stance is not bladed, and cannot be bladed with that kind of foot positioning. As you said: it's situational. If I pivot for a maximum power, I also drive into the ground and straighten my leg, which gives me maximum stability in knee and hip.
"Like putting out a cigarette" yes you're supposed to do that when you're learning and be done with it when you became able to rotate you hips with punching. I noticed Haney still pivots, even when he throws the straight.. it makes. Better looking punch but takes off alot of power.
Very good explanation of front-hook-footwork, and also the advice punching through the target is of high value. highly useful. . but it is not in pivoting but also used after sidestepping. For your information, I saw former world champion Mr. Waldcott (US) winning his KO and world title by sidestepping the opponents´ jab with front leg inward anfrom there laucnhing a devastating a hook from inside. Otherwise, well done. Paul.69, retired instuructor of Karate and fun of boxing, too.
The lead left hook is at its most powerful when you can short leap with your momentum while pivoting with your body at the same time. It also sets up the straight right as soon as you land. And you can throw another left hook after the straight right. Ala james toney phonebooth combo 😂
its about being able to shift your body weight from one side to the other. pivoting takes all the weight off your front foot and puts in your back leg, getting ready for the next punch. The is more of a counter anyways and should be thrown moving backwards.
I like to drop my back heel down and put a majority of my weight on my back foot as I throw for my lead hook. I feel a more solid base. I was taught that is the Cuban style way of throwing a hook.
Would the same apply for the 2? As I’ve been throwing that also with not much twist at the ankle and it feels decent but I feel like I’m missing out on some of the hip rotation
Try throwing the left hook whit almost all your weight, 100% on that front foot. then with no pivot just transfer the weight through to fist into the target
@@hybridwarriortraininghow do you plant the lead foot for throwing hooks, without damaging your knee? I’ve noticed Canelo plants his foot for hooks but I’ve also seen videos of him wearing a knee brace as well
Look at Casimero’s Bag work and how he’s barely moving his lead foot on the hook. Theres a short called “Casimero Lang Malakas” by MarvinMabaittv1929 that shows this clearly
It’s really dependent. It’s good to teach beginners to pivot on every punch. Hell some coaches even teach to pivot the lead foot on a jab. But it’s really just dependent on what your situation is.
Pivoting is always just a side effect of proper power generating mechanics, never the cause. But your average “coach” is too stupid to even understand that sentence, so he just sees that you arent pivoting then says to pivot, then spends the next 10 years trying to figure out why your hook still doesnt look right.
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Both have pluses and minuses imo. The danger with NOT pivoting at all is it puts alot of stress on your knee and can cause injuries. If you ever watch boxers who "dont pivot" they lift their foot up slightly, its a less pronounced pivot.
Pivoting fully is slower when rechambering but you can put alot more power into it imo. The less pronounced pivot where you lift your foot slightly is faster and tighter, but you get less torque so it doesn't have as much power imo.
I think it really is situational or a matter of personal preference. Both are correct in their own ways.
You can make up for it by twisting your torso which has the added benefit of giving you more reach and engaging the powerful twisting muscles of your back and core.
Agreed. Like you said, both have their pros and cons and each person needs to find what suits him/her best. I like to pivot, not pivoting would mean I would destroy my knee and not be able to produce as much torque.
1-3 is such a good combination, and it opens up the rear hand as your opponent starts to expect the hook after the jab.
The hook is the surprise
Yup. Also if you can effectively throw a feint 1-3 in the same motion. Makes guys really nervous about letting that back hand go.
This aged well given how Canelo set his hook against Berlanga through the jab
@@thomasn2773 yup. in slow motion you can see Berlanga just bite on that feint so hard.
Love it, exactly what I want to see from this channel. More advanced stuff and drills that we actually do in sparring instead of drilling completely differently from sparring. Great topic targeting lol.
Superb yet criminally underrated channel. Been a huge fan since then. This deserves tons of views!
You can pivot on any punch as long as you sit down on it
Similar to a Canon on a boat, if it is not planted firmly, the impact of firing it won’t be strong.
@@johntay3831 I apologies in advance if I steal that analogy!
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Very insightful. I am a beginner and I struggle to generate maximum powered and torque with my lead hook. Hard pivoting on the front foot never felt natural to me. I had an “aha” moment when my coach helped me throw my chest/shoulders into the shot more and turn my hips into the punch. I felt like I was able to turn my hips over without sliding my foot that much and when I did, it just felt like it threw me off balance and put an awkward and unnecessary inward bend in my knee. Most of the time I still pivot my front foot ever so slightly. I just don’t really do that exaggerated sliding movement they always seem to teach and when I try to throw it that way just because it seems “correct”…. all my power disappears. My coach didn’t really hammer the front foot thing that hard though, he just emphasized the hip movement more than anything. Anyways, I’m a total beginner with no clue what I’m doing so this gives me a lot to chew on and I really appreciate it! 💯
Move the body and the hand follows.
Your form is beautiful. When I throw hooks, I reach further than you do because when sparring, the opponent is never that close. If they are, I throw an elbow, but then I do MMA.
I thought you were talking about boxing for a second 😂
I first saw coach Tom Yankello talk about this a few years back. Understanding the physics/mechanics behind techniques can take you to the next level. It gives you the structure from which creativity and innovation can flourish.
This makes me feel so much better, I have no experience but I’m interested in boxing and if you’ve played basketball they tell you on the “ball” of the toe that you lose all balance and strength and when I went and they taught me how to throw a hook I told him that, they said I was wrong and I knew I wasn’t and I left the gym immediately because there’s no way in EVERY other sport they tell you not to do that but in boxing it’s all of a sudden a “power move” 😂 thank god I’m not a no XP student who’s crazy
so.. you're an arrogant student who totally missed the whole point of the video.. lmao
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What I don't like about too much stability is my head also stays on one spot.
Finish the hook with your shoulder protecting your head. Now you are basically in a philly shell
@@matheuscerqueira7952 yeah that's how i do it, but it feels stiff and awkward if i don't pivot.
@@Natsuke1104 from that position you have few threats, so it's easier to keep track, and you can duck to avoid them. Deliberate head movement beats mechanical head movement, since the later can be tracked and used against you.
For me, everytime I finish a combo with the lead hook I jump a step back
@@matheuscerqueira7952 that makes sense, guess I'll try to get used to that style too. Thanks for the tips! :D
@@matheuscerqueira7952when i jump back keep the feet apart if u leave them together when u come back ur opponent will pounce this how dricus just won
when you're cultivating, pivot both feet. then step out. then drop your weight. then do it without rotation. Feel your body and the flow of transferring kinetic energy into a punch. understand what your body does when you connect with a solid target, when you skim, and when you whiff. how does your body rebound into a hook before/after combination? play with a vertical fist, a horizontal, inverted hook. Explore the movement and know it, and when it's time to apply just Hit.
Also, if you're doing this outside of optimal training scenarios like a ring you need to first establish your relationship with the ground. How you stand will change from comfy mats to being on gravel or ice.
I personally believe in cultivated pivoting both feet, but my training follows all ten toes to the target unless I'm somewhere slippery.
play with a low hook to the ribs rebounding to a hook to the face. Make your movements efficient!
Progressive indirect, play with starting a jab and changing into a hook without retracting the hand.
If you're training outside of boxing, train your hook, but also train your backfist (not spinning lol). opening a coiled body to the outside has immense power; just like closing. to my knowledge a backlist is illegal in the sport of boxing though.
Lots of things to explore^^
I pivot on check hooks because if you're planted, you're in the pocket too long and need to be on the move to get out of a corner of off the ropes. I rarely throw a regular left hook because of my shoulder. One punch I cant throw consistently without getting winged.
Simple if you want more power squat a little bit when you throw it.
I believe these are technical applications which are not golden rules but subjective to change in circumstances
You need the torque (twisting force) you get in the pivot and weight transfer. Sit down into it, Where there's weight there's power. This is what has worked for me.
Your feet seem to be on a pretty narrow band. If that works for you that's good. I was taught to basically always keep my feet on a "square" and as a result if I pivot my lead foot, I never overturn myself, since my stance is not bladed, and cannot be bladed with that kind of foot positioning. As you said: it's situational. If I pivot for a maximum power, I also drive into the ground and straighten my leg, which gives me maximum stability in knee and hip.
"Like putting out a cigarette" yes you're supposed to do that when you're learning and be done with it when you became able to rotate you hips with punching. I noticed Haney still pivots, even when he throws the straight.. it makes. Better looking punch but takes off alot of power.
Very good explanation of front-hook-footwork, and also the advice punching through the target is of high value. highly useful. . but it is not in pivoting but also used after sidestepping. For your information, I saw former world champion Mr. Waldcott (US) winning his KO and world title by sidestepping the opponents´ jab with front leg inward anfrom there laucnhing a devastating a hook from inside. Otherwise, well done. Paul.69, retired instuructor of Karate and fun of boxing, too.
The lead left hook is at its most powerful when you can short leap with your momentum while pivoting with your body at the same time. It also sets up the straight right as soon as you land. And you can throw another left hook after the straight right. Ala james toney phonebooth combo 😂
its about being able to shift your body weight from one side to the other. pivoting takes all the weight off your front foot and puts in your back leg, getting ready for the next punch. The is more of a counter anyways and should be thrown moving backwards.
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I like to drop my back heel down and put a majority of my weight on my back foot as I throw for my lead hook. I feel a more solid base. I was taught that is the Cuban style way of throwing a hook.
Amazing videos, and very well articulated
Would the same apply for the 2? As I’ve been throwing that also with not much twist at the ankle and it feels decent but I feel like I’m missing out on some of the hip rotation
Try throwing the left hook whit almost all your weight, 100% on that front foot. then with no pivot just transfer the weight through to fist into the target
Amazing video as always
Thank you coach I will be trying dis next time I spar
Let me know how you get on
@@hybridwarriortraininghow do you plant the lead foot for throwing hooks, without damaging your knee? I’ve noticed Canelo plants his foot for hooks but I’ve also seen videos of him wearing a knee brace as well
Love your videos, are you able to do a video on how to wrap your hands? I see so many different videos but wanted to know the best way!
We did have one but it never got uploaded, will make one in future!
I like this tip
Thank you guru
What ever feels good
Thank you Sir
Very helpfull video
Thanks for coaching tell me 1or2 Punch men down full knock out punch
Dudes reach looks crazy
Great video! What's your opinion on the right foot pivot for the lead hook? (orthodox)
How can I apply my training in sparring?
Thank you brother
NO problem bro!
Are your hooks supposed to be knuckles up or knuckles back?
I’m 34 and im just practicing at home everyday but I’m going to be world champion at 36
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Very interesting
Upload sparring videos where you used this techniques to make it more practical to understand
Look at Casimero’s Bag work and how he’s barely moving his lead foot on the hook. Theres a short called “Casimero Lang Malakas” by MarvinMabaittv1929 that shows this clearly
Yeah I too believe this will destroy your knee eventually like Tiger Woods
Nice!
I try to tell everyone this
It’s really dependent. It’s good to teach beginners to pivot on every punch. Hell some coaches even teach to pivot the lead foot on a jab. But it’s really just dependent on what your situation is.
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Wrong shouldn't plant you should step just like a jab. Watch roy Jones jr reach this
Right but as you step you need to plant to have a stable stance
Yeah, never felt good pivoting the lead foot. A very slight knee benting is ideal
but what if you frow 2 lead hooks quick
Greay video
where is your boxing gym located at ? and do you do 1-on-1 ?
Hybrid warrior elite
Solihull, UK. I have an online coaching platform you can find on skool (Hybrid Warrior Elite ^)
no need to pivot, but just remember to dial down the hook when sparring with grandma
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Wrong technique
Pivoting is always just a side effect of proper power generating mechanics, never the cause.
But your average “coach” is too stupid to even understand that sentence, so he just sees that you arent pivoting then says to pivot, then spends the next 10 years trying to figure out why your hook still doesnt look right.