I like to do the same because it gives the neck a bit of a better angle. I think billy sheehan said something like make your strap length the same as when you're sitting down, but still the neck is a bit lower with a strap.
lupash I heard somewhere that the orchestra was horribly out of tune or something. I can't back that statement up in any way as I didn't watch the concert myself but if that's true that might have something to do with it.
Akira Takade Makes sense. Completely out of tune orchestra, then they record Rudess' parts instead of the orchestra once back in studio so they can publish the dvd. It wouldn't be the first time they do it, happened before with Labrie's vocals or even Petrucci's parts becasue of technical issues. In fact, if you listen to Illumination theory, the orchestral intermezzo is clearly not played live, it's just from the original studio track.
Actually, it's yes to the 2003 answer. James has had a vocal coach for a while now, but they tried something new I believe to keep James' voice not only in shape but to improve it after his accident. He's been working on it for the past 10 years and he has said when Octovarium came out he was back on track and feeling the most comfortable and in shape since Awake. It does seem James has lost his epic high voice for good, however perhaps Illumination Theory might prove me wrong. Either way, each concert he has improved. Score was when I noticed his voice was 100% back. Here, I think he's moved even further. His range has suffered, but he has done a remarkable job with his voice. These songs are brutal for a vocalist.
yeah sir, feels like the part that lift goosebumps... proven it's related to the first lyric of the song stanza "Subconscious strange sensation, Unconscious relaxation" which actually happened.
For fuck sake people. Stop the hating on Mangini and move the fuck on. If you hate him, what can you do? Run a petition telling the world we do not need Mangini in DT? Well too bad brothers and sisters, Mangini is here to stay with DT for a very long long time. sorry for the grammar mistakes. English is not my main language.
James has always been in my opinion very reliable whether live or on the studio! Saw him them live quite a few times, and I must say he always delivers.
Do you know why Dream Theater released two song? The looking glass, traditional Dream Theater, first they released a Proof version of the The looking glass, one weak later another version was released, whit a better sound. This is the same, Dream Theater wanted bring a perfect DVD. Please forgive my english, I'm from Mexico
People need to stop shitting on Mike Mangini. Sure, maybe he isn't as "energetic" as Portnoy was, but Mangini is technically perfect while drumming. Maybe it's not a big deal to me, seeing that Neil Peart is my favorite drummer, and he isn't a jump around style of drummer. Drummer's like Peart and Mangini might not be energetic, but they are always perfect on their timing, and only fuck up when they break a stick. Give Mangini a break, he's filling big shoes and is doing a good job of it.
Imo, if Mangini didn't have a snare that sounded like the I&W trigger snare I might actually love him. He's an amazing drummer I won't dispute that. I just wish his drums didn't sound like total shit.
I remember when he first started he used to miss noted here and there. Now he nails every note Portnoy played on the originals. he rocks and anybody that don't think so is an idiot
Eric Chavarria Bro, seriously!!!! I’ve spent countless hrs in a studio trying to find that sound. Triggers are the way to go, move on. Look beyond the trigger. Mike delivers.
Fuck, Petrucci's tone sound so thin and kinda muffled, almost like they cranked up the middle eq...but at least on the upside, somehow, I don't know how, insanely enough Labrie is sounding great! never thought I would see Labrie kicking this much ass live normaly he sucks ass, way to go James!
It's 3 years and more he's fully recovered and is singing killer! Agree, he's had his bad moments but right now he just deserves compliments. Nice one James
give it some time, The Enemy Inside sounded like complete shit as well before it came out on CD and now it sounds fine. Mixes change and youtube destroys audio quality
Perry Davis I can't believe we have to tell the internet tards this time and time again. Either they are growing more stupid with time or they are getting younger and more inexperienced = ignorant. Either way, judging any EQ or mix by a youtube compressed video makes such a person a big moron!
Welcome to RUclips, where every commenter is a professional recording/mixing engineer. It's amazing how DT keeps moving forward in spite of being stuck with such a negative fanbase. Personally, I'm absolutely stoked for this dvd and I think it sounds great!
Personally, I'm a fan of Mike Portnoy and can't ever get over the fact that he's not in Dream Theater anymore. But you gotta give credit, what credits do. Mike Mangini was the perfect replacement imaginable for Dream Theater. The dude is a legend, and I see a lot of butthurt fans here bitchin about his looks, this or that. Just shut the fuck up and enjoy the music.. IF you don't like looking at him, don't watch live videos and that's it ;)
+Wojciech Rusak Thats what happens when your founding drummer for 30 yrs leaves and needs replacing... Not sure that equates to MM sucking as some people are saying here.
+Carlos Mario Calderon Gomez Lol Mike Mangini doesn't suck. Sure he doesn't have as MUCH charisma as Portnoy, but he sure has some. Mangini is one of the greatest drummers to walk the planet. He is technically perfect. So perfect that Neil Peart couldn't even keep up. His ambidexterity is mesmerizing. It is unbelievable what that man can do with sticks.
What I prefer about Mike Mangini being part of the band, aside from the fact that he's a phenomenal drummer (just watch his audition!), is that he doesn't assist on being brought so far forward in the mix. I love Metropolis pt.2 but I also love not having my ear-drum sting with every hit of the snare drum.
I love Mike Mangini´s drumming a lot, he´s a true master but he should play these old songs more like Portnoy did in Scenes from New York DVD, OMFG!! that´s the best version of Strange Deja Vu in drums!!. Mangini played this one very accurate, almost identical to the original studio version but with not too much flow or feeling, i guess because he was playing with an orchestra or because he was using a metronome.
Is it just me or LaBrie sounds perfect? Almost roboticly perfect, it seems to me that, for the first time, they tuned him up. Don't be hating, you know he never sounds perfect. Ever.
Not perfect, his vibrato is still out of control and he knows that, which is why he tries to use it less now. He knows that if he lets his vibrato go on for too long it becomes annoying and gets out of tune. Intonation wise he did improve a lot but it sounds like he's using a better vocal technique now. Maybe he is now seeing a vocal coach.
Ya, they obviously touched his voice a little with Autotune. It's pretty appearing in places. I like my Autotune, but if I know for sure it's happening, I hate it. It's kinda like a magic trick, nobody likes it when they know how it works.
I know, I saw him in Mexico three years ago and he nailed it. But be honest, when I say perfect i mean perfectly TUNED and you know in this video he sounds so different haha that is not his voice clean through the audio. I think it was digitally retouched.
Ok, mangini is portnoy. We know that. But mike p left on his own accord. The person you should blame is portnoy. I loved the guy. Hell, I credit him for my playing 99.9% of the time. But his arrogance got in the way. And as a band, I applaud DT for moving in from such a prick like him. I'd rather have DT like this, than with mike p repeating the same album over and over again...
I like Mangini as a person and a drummer... but to hear theses songs without Portnoy... its misses the feeling and emotion... its just falls flat with out him im afraid..
You hit the nail on the head. While I was listening, I thought something about the performance sounded sterile, and I think it's Mangini's metronomic playing. Don't get me wrong. I like Mangini. But he just can't play this song like Portnoy could, which is understandable since he didn't write the parts. Other than this one issue it sounded great. I even got chills while watching it.
You are biased, that's all. You wouldn't tell the difference if you hear this audio with a video of MP playing and somebody told you "That's actually Mike Portnoy)
I never thought I would say this but James LaBrie sounds better than what he used to lol Don't deny it, he sounds horrible in live most of the times haha
He's recently improved a lot, and returned to a level that almost matches his prime (even though he uses his voice in a different way than what he used to, for example, in Live in Tokyo). With that said, it is partially thanks to that, partially to ovedub, i'm afraid :P
I am relieved that La Brie's singing is sounding in tune and the mix sounds exciting enough but not really properly balanced. It does however, sound a heck of a lot better than Luna Park. Overall, a rather promising insight to the whole product. Can't wait!
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First off, I have taken lessons from Petrucci since they were looking for a singer to replace Charlie Dominici until about just after the awake album. All the band members at the time were great, except for Kevin Moore, he was always a putz. Although I always liked Mike Portnoy, his controlling attitude regarding the band was bad for the band chemistry. TO Monkeys point, LaBrie was always good. The stuff they (and I mean Portnoy primarily) had him constantly reaching outside of his vocal range. Now he is sticking more in his range, therefore sounding better. With the addition of Although Moore was very creative, again he was a putz. I think Jordan is much better in both attitude and creativity. Now with Mangini at the the drums, they are at a whole new level After 25 years!! After reading alot of the posts, I agree that Marco is not a good DT fit. As far as Mangini looking bored, well would you be more excited playing other peoples stuff or your own. matter of opinion I guess. I can say back in Long Island we called John A nerd who happens to be a God at the guitar. Practiced almost militantly, Metronome, recording himself when he practiced so he could listen to what he needed work on. Incredible guy, him and his wife Rena are both great people. Anyway, just a chime in.
Sorry, I have not been on in a while. I have met kevin only a couple of times. But He just was really just full of himself. Everyone else in the band was great. I mean when John and his wife first moved in together, I remember going to a lesson and they all were on the couch playing super Mario Brothers. We go start the lesson, and he says "check this out" and he played this tune, which I thought was a demo for the new album. I was like cool is that going to end up being recorded. He said "No, I was playing on on the board pipeworld and it gave me this idea" I told him he was friggin out there. Anyway, Kevin ended up leaving the band, and if you read some of Portnoy's interviews regarding OSI. He didn't want to work with Kevin really anymore either. And yes, my story is true. I started lessons with him while he was still living with his parents in Kings Park LI. This was when they were recording Images and words. He then moved to Farmingdale with his girlfriend, now wifew Rena Sands. She Also was awesome. Very sweet woman. He moved to Jersey, but still came to LI on the weekends to give lessons. Over all I have nothing but great things to say about John and his wife. Although I have not spoken to them in a very long time. He was one of the nicest guys in the world.
God dammit! They have one of the best fucking bass players in the world and they almost always bury him in the fucking mix! Jesus, go listen to the studio version of this album, there's shit loads of tasty bass licks EVERYWHERE. I can see him playing them in the video, but you can't hear them for shit, all you see are his hands moving. Self titled album and the Score DVD are the only two things they've released that do true justice to Myung's bass lines and every nuance of his tone!
.. too many comments about the technicalities of mixing and recording ... people these days, that's all they talk about.... gone are the days when people just enjoy the show and don't mind everything else .... as for me, i'm enjoying every bit of this clip from the concert ..
no it really is not, orchestra is almost impossible to hear and the band sounds just like the self titled, which sounded pretty bad as well... it just sounds a bit chaotic all together
So much better than Luna Park!!! This DVD may not end up being on the same level as Score (which I thought was magnificent), but judging how this sounds so far, it is sounding amazing. The orchestra adds an atmosphere which makes the mix sound much bigger. The Luna Park mix was like 60% Petrucci's over-chorused guitar, with Jordan being hidden WAY too low in the mix. And Mangini's kit sounded underwhelming on Luna Park. (Snare sounded dead instead of popping, etc.) Luna Park just lacked environment. Mangini still looks relatively uninspired in this video, but I suppose he plays with such economy and is not as much as a showman as Portnoy. Regardless, Mangini's kit sounds a lot better to me here than on Luna Park. James sounds awesome here too! Nothing new though, as he was outstanding on Luna Park and Score as well. The post-production is decent, with a bit too much auto-tune. But I honestly would rather have a bit too much than hear any off-key notes. Sour notes drive me crazy, though they are inevitable in the live setting. Oh, and one last thing....brilliant song choice! I guess it helps that SFaM is my fav. album of all time.
I saw them multiple times live and this is not how James Labrie sings in a live performance. Unless he found a way to sing almost perfectly which I doubt. I like how the drum sounds, but jesus the drumming needs some feels to it. It sounds to me like it was a robot playing it. Add some human feels to it, please stop the automation of music. Not trying to be a troll here just pointing facts and opinion
Extraña subconsciente sensación Inconsciente relajación Que pesadilla tan placentera Y no puedo esperar a llegar allí de nuevo Cada vez que cierro mis ojos Hay otra vívida sorpresa Otra vida completa esperando Capítulos sin terminar, desvanecimiento Ahora más cerca Lentamente haciéndose visible He llegado Atraviesa con sus rayos el cegador brillo del sol Hay una casa a la que soy arrastrado Entorno familiar, nada diferente Hay un camino que lleva allí Con un espantoso helaje en el aire Hay una habitación al final de las escaleras Cada noche soy arrastrado allá Hay una niña en el espejo Su cara se hace cada vez más clara ¿Joven niña puedes decirme porque estoy aquí? En sus ojos Siento una historia no contada Detrás del disfraz Hay algo desgarrándole el alma “Esta noche lo he estado buscando Un sentimiento muy dentro de mi Esta noche he estado buscando A ese que nadie conoce Tratando de liberarme” No lo puedo evitar Siento que me salgo de mi cabeza me parte el corazón en dos No soy ese La durmiente pensaba que el lo sabía DE VUELTA SOBRE MIS PIES OJOS ABIERTOS AL MUNDO REAL METROPOLIS ME RODEA EL ESPEJO ROMPIÒ A LA CHICA PORQUE HAY ESTA OTRA VIDA ACECHáNDOME CADA DÌA ATRAVESARÍA HASTA SALIR AL OTRO LADO SI SOLO SUPIERA EL CAMINO HAY ALGO DESAGRADABLEMENTE FAMILIAR EL SENTIMIENTO ES DIFÍCIL DE SACUDIR PUDE HABER VIVIDO EN ESA REALIDAD APARTE ES UNA CONEXIÓN QUE ESTOY PREDESTINADO A REALIZAR SIGO BUSCANDO PERO NO SE QUÉ ES LO QUE BUSCO LA LLAVE PERDIDA QUE ABRE LAS PUERTAS DE LA MENTE “hoy lo estoy buscando Un sentimiento que no se va Hoy estoy buscando a ese que solo yo se Tratando de liberarme” Simplemente no puedo evitarlo Siento que me estoy saliendo de mi cabeza Me parte el alma en dos No soy ese Siempre pensé que sabía Simplemente no puedo evitarlo Siento que me estoy saliendo de mi cabeza Inédito, extraño deja vu Pero no me importa Espero encontrar La verdad.
MP been gone for 6 years, DT is still great without him, MM came in and nailed it... I think that is why MP fans are so pissy , cause MM replaced him and did just as good if not better
June Kevin Enriquez he DID replace him, I’ve see DT 3 times since MP punked out, and I don’t miss him one bit, he left the band cause he was”burnt out” , so what did he do to get over it, went and played for another band, to hell with MP
And yet another video that Dream Theater fans can rip on trivial matters about the band varying from Mangini's head band to whether James' voice sounds good or not. Either enjoy the music or don't watch it. Pretty simple.
Damn that was good. So far this orchestra sounds much better than the one from Score...never like that one too much, but it probably had more to do with the arrangement than the skill of the musicians. It felt like they were struggling to keep up.
talobassprog exactly! and the maestor is Eren Başbuğ. he is one of the youngest talented musician iv ever heard. he is absolutely brilliant! you should check his octavarium orchestra cover .
To me it sounds like the orchestra in Score had a problem with the venue (during six degrees the echo made everything sound slightly messy), not to add that Score had a larger orchestra.. But well, of course there's Eren with us now, he really knows what he's doing. Sounds like this DVD:s gonna be one of DT's best.
Alex Burchell he works with JR but not on that project. also studies at berklee college of music on electronic production & design.has own his own band which is also amazing. check his channel my friend /channel/UCLFlyviZXb5Pw5L89zpVosQ
soo much criticism and negativity. like they say, haters gonna hate, you can't satisfy all. me i'm loving it, in fact this DVD is looking great. i am so happy, reminds me of score (the best for me at all levels). as i already said, masterpiece, nobody does it like DT great band great song
Haha ya, not to mention a majority of the whole song. When he sings "if only I find the way" at 4:22, it sounds like a keyboard. Why they went way overboard with the auto-tune, I'm not sure. It's not like his pitch is that far off. They could have easily used extremely light auto tune to the point where it would be hardly noticeable but still be in tune.
***** It is true they're using backing tapes. As much as I'd like it not to be the case, they have without a doubt auto-tuned the lead vocals. Listed to the phrase "won't go away" at 4:04. If that's not obvious auto-tune, I don't know what is. It's a shame they do it so obviously. No one can sing that perfectly in pitch, and when I hear that keyboard-like vocal sound in rock music it just sounds hilarious. That heavy of auto-tune belongs in radio pop, not Dream Theater.
***** and because Portnoy's not there to sing it anymore haha I wish JR would get a mic, he doesn't have the best singing voice but he holds pitch pretty well and isn't bad at all
B rad 4:05 is just the compression, but it does sound modified at 4:35, it's probably a vocal effect (yes, you can do vocal effects live). However, the whole song is, in fact, slightly auto-tuned.
why would they have to auto tune his voice and leave other mistakes alone to be heard? Makes no sense, so I don't think it's auto tune. I think you're hearing the strings in the mix, and also the backing vocals of all those people standing in the back of the band. There are so many things going on instrumentally. James makes an obvious error going into the first chorus, and they didn't fix it....at 2:00 he starts the phrase with the wrong note. Probably was distracted, but I could give a shit. He's an amazing vocalist live, and he's human! Dream Theater - Official Video Strange Deja Vu (Live From The Boston Opera House)
Mangini is a beast here and in all this concert's songs... the only thing I miss from Portnoy is that he was mor "showy" and expressive with his playing... that shows Mangini plays way too efortless.
This is one of my favorite DT songs, but i feel that Mangini has butchered the song by not playing the fills Portnoy played in his day... this is not the song i like
I think that this mix and mastering is much better then live at luna park. i recommend that you listen this epic live performance on some audiophile headphones over 200 us. or HI FI speakers> not on some low fi computer Z class speakers that does not have sound frenquencies and that are for discusion in that area in middle range from 400 to 1000 hz > you will ofcourse not hear some orchestra parts or choir parts. if you listen on them.
Wow, there's actually more to love with one of my all-time fave DT songs, thanks to Mangini!! i love how he makes the band sound more knitted together, no exaggerations, and his uber steady unrushed tempo, and how he fits all those notes in his fill-ins towards the end, and how he plays in unison with James "Strange de-ja-vu" 😍 His drums are literally singing too.. i can go on... i love Mangini, he's the best that has happened to DT after Rudess IMO 😍
SamhainMisfit That's another one, he says that the kind of length that he had when he joined the band has a larger tendency to get in his eyes while he played so he grew it out for that reason.
Call me a fan boy, but i still miss Portnoy. I can't listen those new albums. Dream Theater was it was in 2011. Portnoy has substantial presence on the songs when we talk about the music production and composing. Dream Theater is clearly different from 2011 after Mike Portnoy.
+Vinicius Suguri dafuck you doing here then? dear god, get over it. Close this video and listen to the Winery Dogs. Really tired of you all complaining over and over again. Portnoy left the band by his OWN decission. Get over it. Don't listen to DT anymore if you don't like it, we won't miss you.
James Labrie has always been an underrated MONSTER, yes... he had his food poisoning issue that fucked him for a good 15 years. However, as a musician covering dream theater, I can tell you you'll find a lot of singers out there with good vocal range, they'll sing some crazy power metal high toned songs but they'll pussy out on dream theater. You guys have no idea how tough it is to do what JLB does night after night, its not only the high tones and the vibratos, its so much more... Its the way he plays out a character while he is singing, the odd time signatures he plays to, such demanding key signature transitions etc. Im so glad he is having some recognition and FINALLY a decent live mix PLEASE PPL SMOKE ONE AND CRANK IT UP WITH HEADPHONES the choir is surreal.
I'll tell you what. I used to hold James Tate on the highest regard and James Labrie as a meh kind of guy. As years passed and I saw what each individual did with their God given gifts I sincerely and honestly respect Labrie so much is no joke. I forgot when was the last time I heard Tate sing, even though I actually went to meet him. And btw, I asked Jaime Vendera for help BECAUSE of what happened to James. That was when I tried to start singing. The guy is for real. Also that's not the ONLY VC James has asked for help. He's on the journey and deserves respect for that alone.
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0:07 Whenever Petrucci's knee is up while he is playing, you know some shit is about to go down.
I've taken notice too, first saw it in Live at Budokan DVD... usually before complex unisons and solos hahah! "alright here he goes!"
MaximBobbaertsMusic yeah he has said that he uses these pillars, because he has studied classical guitar
I like to do the same because it gives the neck a bit of a better angle. I think billy sheehan said something like make your strap length the same as when you're sitting down, but still the neck is a bit lower with a strap.
What's the purpose of the orchestra if Rudess is backing every single orchestral track with the keyboards? You can barely hear them playing.
lupash I heard somewhere that the orchestra was horribly out of tune or something. I can't back that statement up in any way as I didn't watch the concert myself but if that's true that might have something to do with it.
Akira Takade Makes sense. Completely out of tune orchestra, then they record Rudess' parts instead of the orchestra once back in studio so they can publish the dvd. It wouldn't be the first time they do it, happened before with Labrie's vocals or even Petrucci's parts becasue of technical issues. In fact, if you listen to Illumination theory, the orchestral intermezzo is clearly not played live, it's just from the original studio track.
+Berkay Kula you just don't know what you're talking about, sod off kid
+lupash I think the correct question to be made is, "who needs an orchestra with Jordan Rudess playing keyboards?"
+lupash Listen to the studio version, and you'll realize the difference.
The fuck happened to Labrie? When did he start getting better?
Well, he got a new vocal coach in 2008, and since then he has gotten better each tour. Saw them in 09, 12 and 14, and he improved each time!
Since 2003. Get with the times, man
Actually, it's yes to the 2003 answer. James has had a vocal coach for a while now, but they tried something new I believe to keep James' voice not only in shape but to improve it after his accident. He's been working on it for the past 10 years and he has said when Octovarium came out he was back on track and feeling the most comfortable and in shape since Awake. It does seem James has lost his epic high voice for good, however perhaps Illumination Theory might prove me wrong. Either way, each concert he has improved. Score was when I noticed his voice was 100% back. Here, I think he's moved even further. His range has suffered, but he has done a remarkable job with his voice. These songs are brutal for a vocalist.
That is called autotune... They're using A LOT. ;)
Since Mike Portnoy left the band... It's the ugly truth, but is true.
Portnoy forced to sing different songs and LaBrie can't make it.
4:00 Idk why, but I always feel a huge wave of joy hit me at this moment in the song
Dude, SAME, every time.
The synth probably
yeah sir, feels like the part that lift goosebumps... proven it's related to the first lyric of the song stanza "Subconscious strange sensation, Unconscious relaxation" which actually happened.
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For fuck sake people. Stop the hating on Mangini and move the fuck on. If you hate him, what can you do? Run a petition telling the world we do not need Mangini in DT? Well too bad brothers and sisters, Mangini is here to stay with DT for a very long long time.
sorry for the grammar mistakes. English is not my main language.
+Faris Imadi they are trolling..never heard one full song ...
James is incredible in this one. Sounds just like the recording
was thinking the same thing, all the videos on this concert are done really well you should check lie out he does a really cool thing with the chorus
James has got an awesome voice!
James has always been in my opinion very reliable whether live or on the studio! Saw him them live quite a few times, and I must say he always delivers.
It's amazing how consistent he is with is singing ability! I'm very impressed and even will go as far to say he'll only get better with age!
Thing with Labrie these last few years, on some nights he sounds pretty fucking good, the next one he will blow so hard.
1:20 No James, that's big but it's still a drumset, not a room.
+TheAtb85 :D
XD Marry me!
haha
3:08 Pettruci msessing with people's mind
+Mariano Gianni I was about to say the same thing... Killer lick! He gets tickled at himself. :)
he should do it more often ;x0
It's like the one from illumination theory
@@morenoharjoyudanto8889 Wich one? It's like 20 minutes to search for it lol
@@joaomatheus6222 its like rudess solo actually, i thought it was petrucci's, sorry my bad lol
take an orchestra, pay fot it, learn them how to play strange deja vu and then mute they on dvd.
my thoughts exactly...
Don't worry, I'm sure they'll see the comments on this video, adjust the mix and reupload it like they did with The Looking Glass :P
Probably on the final product it will sound better. IMHO we shouldn't judge from a compressed yt video (also, it's not real 1080p)
Do you know why Dream Theater released two song?
The looking glass, traditional Dream Theater, first they released a Proof version of the The looking glass, one weak later another version was released, whit a better sound. This is the same, Dream Theater wanted bring a perfect DVD. Please forgive my english, I'm from Mexico
Are you deaf? You can hear the strings loud and clear.
People need to stop shitting on Mike Mangini. Sure, maybe he isn't as "energetic" as Portnoy was, but Mangini is technically perfect while drumming. Maybe it's not a big deal to me, seeing that Neil Peart is my favorite drummer, and he isn't a jump around style of drummer. Drummer's like Peart and Mangini might not be energetic, but they are always perfect on their timing, and only fuck up when they break a stick. Give Mangini a break, he's filling big shoes and is doing a good job of it.
Imo, if Mangini didn't have a snare that sounded like the I&W trigger snare I might actually love him. He's an amazing drummer I won't dispute that. I just wish his drums didn't sound like total shit.
Eric Chavarria
I will agree with you on that.
I remember when he first started he used to miss noted here and there. Now he nails every note Portnoy played on the originals. he rocks and anybody that don't think so is an idiot
Eric Chavarria
Bro, seriously!!!!
I’ve spent countless hrs in a studio trying to find that sound. Triggers are the way to go, move on.
Look beyond the trigger. Mike delivers.
He’s shit.
15 years listening to this song, and it still gives me goosebumps at the end ;)
SO ENAGY, POWAHH!
frdk123 SO HEAVY SOUND
TEKINIKAL!
FUCK!
DLEEM TEATAAH
FUCK!!! AHCH!!!
I really think Mangini did a great job playing Portnoy's parts.
Fuck, Petrucci's tone sound so thin and kinda muffled, almost like they cranked up the middle eq...but at least on the upside, somehow, I don't know how, insanely enough Labrie is sounding great! never thought I would see Labrie kicking this much ass live normaly he sucks ass, way to go James!
James is mostly doing great live for the past 11 years
In the venue, the mids were accentuated further. From an acoustic standpoint, it was the worst possible place to see a metal show.
live it sounds awesome, the guy who mixed this EQ'd badly
It's 3 years and more he's fully recovered and is singing killer!
Agree, he's had his bad moments but right now he just deserves compliments. Nice one James
DeeZaster
Blame Richard Chycki, he mixed this.
I didn't noticed the orchestra was playing until they appeared on the video. The mix was really shitty. Nothing compared with Budokan or SCORE.
You're damn right :/
give it some time, The Enemy Inside sounded like complete shit as well before it came out on CD and now it sounds fine. Mixes change and youtube destroys audio quality
shinobu a best
Perry Davis I can't believe we have to tell the internet tards this time and time again. Either they are growing more stupid with time or they are getting younger and more inexperienced = ignorant. Either way, judging any EQ or mix by a youtube compressed video makes such a person a big moron!
You are absolute no idea.. i was there in front. Orchestra started playing at the "encore" look for yourself in the bluray.
That 03:08 lick can destroy a lot of guitars solos, I LOVE IT
agree, can be seen from John's expression that feels like he's pouring his adrenaline sensation in that part. So so well.
Unpopular opinion: Petrucci always should have kept more blues/pentatoic bends and licks in his solos!
Thank You Mike Mangini, you are one of the best Drummer.
Great.
I love Dream Theater, I LOVE DREAM THEATER!!!!
Labrie has only been getting better since Chaos in motion! He's almost "Score" level now, way to go James!
Score is fake
@@anthonycortez9191 but most of the shows I've watched from that tour, he sounded pretty much the same so I guess it's not that fake.
@@ls02011 just Score is fake. Disappointing. His voice was kinda meh on that your. He did better in 2011 and 2009
I think Labrie sounds better here then he did on the record.
Blake Mullens It's true
It comes close ;)
Ye, he does, but that says very little.
This band will never not be underrated. Absolutely beautiful song. God bless Dream Theater.
Welcome to RUclips, where every commenter is a professional recording/mixing engineer. It's amazing how DT keeps moving forward in spite of being stuck with such a negative fanbase. Personally, I'm absolutely stoked for this dvd and I think it sounds great!
Even better, they created the song Never Enough
And equipped with a fanbase that constantly bash Mangini for not being Portnoy
I love the fucking mix! So much better than luna! This will be epic
Exactly. I still enjoyed watching Live at Luna Park.
Agreed. The drums sound WAY better here. But Luna Park is still great!
hey my cover :d , i agree!
Hudson Daniylo Your cover? My cover too! I also agree!
I like it too.
The gods of progressive metal!!!!!!!! And Mangini is f@ckin awesome
Personally, I'm a fan of Mike Portnoy and can't ever get over the fact that he's not in Dream Theater anymore. But you gotta give credit, what credits do. Mike Mangini was the perfect replacement imaginable for Dream Theater. The dude is a legend, and I see a lot of butthurt fans here bitchin about his looks, this or that. Just shut the fuck up and enjoy the music.. IF you don't like looking at him, don't watch live videos and that's it ;)
Mike Mangini is a great musician but the lack of charisma in DT is highly noticeable.
+Wojciech Rusak Mike Mangini looks like a robot.
+Wojciech Rusak I agree, missing Portnoy! :(
Agree! Mangini sucks! He's like a robot...
+Wojciech Rusak Thats what happens when your founding drummer for 30 yrs leaves and needs replacing... Not sure that equates to MM sucking as some people are saying here.
+Carlos Mario Calderon Gomez
Lol Mike Mangini doesn't suck. Sure he doesn't have as MUCH charisma as Portnoy, but he sure has some. Mangini is one of the greatest drummers to walk the planet. He is technically perfect. So perfect that Neil Peart couldn't even keep up. His ambidexterity is mesmerizing. It is unbelievable what that man can do with sticks.
Stop talking bullsh*t about mixing, Mangini's headband and listen to the goddamn music!! Seems like everyone here is sound engineer...
Ik right
What I prefer about Mike Mangini being part of the band, aside from the fact that he's a phenomenal drummer (just watch his audition!), is that he doesn't assist on being brought so far forward in the mix. I love Metropolis pt.2 but I also love not having my ear-drum sting with every hit of the snare drum.
Well, I'll be fucked; LaBrie can actually sing now.
Turn John Myung up in the mix! Jeez!! Great other wise though...
Hit those drums Kylo Ren!
I love Mike Mangini´s drumming a lot, he´s a true master but he should play these old songs more like Portnoy did in Scenes from New York DVD, OMFG!! that´s the best version of Strange Deja Vu in drums!!. Mangini played this one very accurate, almost identical to the original studio version but with not too much flow or feeling, i guess because he was playing with an orchestra or because he was using a metronome.
this version is much better, imo..
Is it just me or LaBrie sounds perfect? Almost roboticly perfect, it seems to me that, for the first time, they tuned him up.
Don't be hating, you know he never sounds perfect. Ever.
Not perfect, his vibrato is still out of control and he knows that, which is why he tries to use it less now. He knows that if he lets his vibrato go on for too long it becomes annoying and gets out of tune. Intonation wise he did improve a lot but it sounds like he's using a better vocal technique now. Maybe he is now seeing a vocal coach.
Ya, they obviously touched his voice a little with Autotune. It's pretty appearing in places. I like my Autotune, but if I know for sure it's happening, I hate it. It's kinda like a magic trick, nobody likes it when they know how it works.
I saw them in L.A and James killed it. It was fantastic.
I know, I saw him in Mexico three years ago and he nailed it.
But be honest, when I say perfect i mean perfectly TUNED and you know in this video he sounds so different haha that is not his voice clean through the audio. I think it was digitally retouched.
WillEnj0y yeah, i kinda feel that way.
Ok, mangini is portnoy. We know that. But mike p left on his own accord. The person you should blame is portnoy. I loved the guy. Hell, I credit him for my playing 99.9% of the time. But his arrogance got in the way. And as a band, I applaud DT for moving in from such a prick like him. I'd rather have DT like this, than with mike p repeating the same album over and over again...
I like Mangini as a person and a drummer... but to hear theses songs without Portnoy... its misses the feeling and emotion... its just falls flat with out him im afraid..
the same stupid comment ever, hey stay listening to the CDS of the past!
Nick Xavier admit it, those live performance would be a lot better with Portnoy
for that they are both versions. Portnoy version and Mangini version. You choose and ready the comparison is just stupid man!
You hit the nail on the head. While I was listening, I thought something about the performance sounded sterile, and I think it's Mangini's metronomic playing. Don't get me wrong. I like Mangini. But he just can't play this song like Portnoy could, which is understandable since he didn't write the parts. Other than this one issue it sounded great. I even got chills while watching it.
You are biased, that's all.
You wouldn't tell the difference if you hear this audio with a video of MP playing and somebody told you "That's actually Mike Portnoy)
I never thought I would say this but James LaBrie sounds better than what he used to lol
Don't deny it, he sounds horrible in live most of the times haha
He's recently improved a lot, and returned to a level that almost matches his prime (even though he uses his voice in a different way than what he used to, for example, in Live in Tokyo). With that said, it is partially thanks to that, partially to ovedub, i'm afraid :P
So you are telling me that I mustn't skip the non-instrumental songs now?
dntinpalevo No
i was at this show and he was spot on all night
The vocal cords are like muscles the more you use them the stronger they get. Jimmy James is blessed with remarkable pipes!
0:00 that face lmao
Labire lost it when john petrucci inserted a lick! ahaha
Mangini is awesome, but he looks like a Hollywood Indian from the '50's and '60's. He just needs a tomahawk and feathers to complete the outfit. :)
I love Mangini and DT, but Mangini with long hair looks like an ageing lesbian. I mean no disrespect, just my perception.
Hello my name is Mike Mangini and I am the Indian of the group
James when will you come Shillong Meghalaya big fan here 🤘🎸🖤
I am relieved that La Brie's singing is sounding in tune and the mix sounds exciting enough but not really properly balanced. It does however, sound a heck of a lot better than Luna Park. Overall, a rather promising insight to the whole product. Can't wait!
why labrie's pronunciation is never as good as the studio I don't understand
I like more Mangini cause his musicality and technic but miss Portnoy passion and smile
Man, the chills I used to get when I first heard this song. What a tune.
Sensación extraña subconsciente
Relajación inconsciente
Que pesadilla tan placentera
Y no puedo esperar a llegar allí de nuevo
Cada vez que cierro mis ojos
Hay otra vívida sorpresa
Otra vida completa esperando
Capítulos sin terminar, desvanecimiento
Ahora más cerca
Lentamente haciéndose visible
He llegado
Atraviesa con sus rayos el cegador brillo del sol
Hay una casa a la que soy arrastrado
Entorno familiar, nada diferente
Hay un camino que lleva allí
Con un espantoso helaje en el aire
Hay una habitación al final de las escaleras
Cada noche soy arrastrado allá
Hay una niña en el espejo
Su cara se hace cada vez más clara
Joven niña puedes decirme porque estoy aquí?
En sus ojos
Siento una historia no contada
Detrás de la fachada
Hay algo desgarrándole el alma
“Esta noche lo he estado buscando
Un sentimiento muy dentro de mi
Esta noche he estado buscando
Aquel que nadie conoce
Tratando de liberarme”
No lo puedo evitar
Siento que me salgo de mi cabeza
Parte mi corazón en dos
No soy aquel
La durmiente pensaba que el lo sabía
DE VUELTA SOBRE MIS PIES
OJOS ABIERTOS AL MUNDO REAL
METROPOLIS ME RODEA
EL ESPEJO ROMPIÒ A LA CHICA
PORQUE ES ESTA OTRA VIDA
ACECHANDOME CDA DÌA
ATRAVESARÌA HASTA SALIR AL OTRO LADO
SI SOLO SUPIERA EL CAMINO
HAY ALGO DESAGRADABLEMENTE FAMILIAR
EL SENTIMIENTO ES DIFÌCIL DE SACUDIR
PUDE HABER VIVIDO EN ESA REALIDAD APART
ES UNA CONEXIÒN QUE ESTOY PREDESTINADO A REALIZAR
Sigo buscando pero no se qué es lo que busco
La llave perdida que abre las puertas de la mente
“hoy lo estoy buscando
Un sentimiento que no se va
Hoy lo estoy buscando
Aquel que solo yo se
Tratando de liberarme”
Simplemente no puedo evitarlo
Siento que me estoy saliendo de mi cabeza
Me parte el alma en dos
No soy aquel que siempre pensé que sabía
Simplemente no puedo evitarlo
Siento que me estoy saliendo de mi cabeza
Inédito, extraño deja vu
Pero no me importa
Espero encontrar
La verdad.
Nacho taco chimichanga
1:59 I knew that pitch correction would come back to bite whoever mixed this xD James is fine on his own thanks
Amazing performance, Dream Theater, you`re the best of the best!!!!!
Simplemente magníficos se extraña al baterista 😢
Petrucci at 3:09 amazinggggggggggg
I really can't understand why people don't like James labrie as a singer in DT I really can't!
Search for some his worst live moments
First off, I have taken lessons from Petrucci since they were looking for a singer to replace Charlie Dominici until about just after the awake album. All the band members at the time were great, except for Kevin Moore, he was always a putz. Although I always liked Mike Portnoy, his controlling attitude regarding the band was bad for the band chemistry. TO Monkeys point, LaBrie was always good. The stuff they (and I mean Portnoy primarily) had him constantly reaching outside of his vocal range. Now he is sticking more in his range, therefore sounding better. With the addition of Although Moore was very creative, again he was a putz. I think Jordan is much better in both attitude and creativity. Now with Mangini at the the drums, they are at a whole new level After 25 years!! After reading alot of the posts, I agree that Marco is not a good DT fit. As far as Mangini looking bored, well would you be more excited playing other peoples stuff or your own. matter of opinion I guess. I can say back in Long Island we called John A nerd who happens to be a God at the guitar. Practiced almost militantly, Metronome, recording himself when he practiced so he could listen to what he needed work on. Incredible guy, him and his wife Rena are both great people. Anyway, just a chime in.
I hope your story is true because it is incredibly interesting. Can you elaborate on KevMo being a putz?
Sorry, I have not been on in a while. I have met kevin only a couple of times. But He just was really just full of himself. Everyone else in the band was great. I mean when John and his wife first moved in together, I remember going to a lesson and they all were on the couch playing super Mario Brothers. We go start the lesson, and he says "check this out" and he played this tune, which I thought was a demo for the new album. I was like cool is that going to end up being recorded. He said "No, I was playing on on the board pipeworld and it gave me this idea" I told him he was friggin out there. Anyway, Kevin ended up leaving the band, and if you read some of Portnoy's interviews regarding OSI. He didn't want to work with Kevin really anymore either. And yes, my story is true. I started lessons with him while he was still living with his parents in Kings Park LI. This was when they were recording Images and words. He then moved to Farmingdale with his girlfriend, now wifew Rena Sands. She Also was awesome. Very sweet woman. He moved to Jersey, but still came to LI on the weekends to give lessons. Over all I have nothing but great things to say about John and his wife. Although I have not spoken to them in a very long time. He was one of the nicest guys in the world.
carl welch
Thanks for sharing man. It was a fascinating read.
Thank you, and anytime. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time haha.
@@carlwelch8256thanks a lot for sharing your story... It was an amazing read
God dammit! They have one of the best fucking bass players in the world and they almost always bury him in the fucking mix! Jesus, go listen to the studio version of this album, there's shit loads of tasty bass licks EVERYWHERE. I can see him playing them in the video, but you can't hear them for shit, all you see are his hands moving.
Self titled album and the Score DVD are the only two things they've released that do true justice to Myung's bass lines and every nuance of his tone!
Amazing
appropriate user name.
Nice avatar too.
.. too many comments about the technicalities of mixing and recording ... people these days, that's all they talk about.... gone are the days when people just enjoy the show and don't mind everything else .... as for me, i'm enjoying every bit of this clip from the concert ..
James killed it here.
Sem o Mike sai um negócio meio quadrado, esquisito
Mangini parece que toca sem vontade
Mixing is pretty bad :(
I disagree. It's pretty dece.
Good for the band but not so for the orchestra. Can hardly hear them.
no it really is not, orchestra is almost impossible to hear and the band sounds just like the self titled, which sounded pretty bad as well... it just sounds a bit chaotic all together
blastdude89 chaffin' the guff !
Man, it is better than Live at luna
3:59 James can sound really good when he puts effort
For the love of god turn up Myung's volume!
So much better than Luna Park!!! This DVD may not end up being on the same level as Score (which I thought was magnificent), but judging how this sounds so far, it is sounding amazing.
The orchestra adds an atmosphere which makes the mix sound much bigger. The Luna Park mix was like 60% Petrucci's over-chorused guitar, with Jordan being hidden WAY too low in the mix. And Mangini's kit sounded underwhelming on Luna Park. (Snare sounded dead instead of popping, etc.) Luna Park just lacked environment.
Mangini still looks relatively uninspired in this video, but I suppose he plays with such economy and is not as much as a showman as Portnoy. Regardless, Mangini's kit sounds a lot better to me here than on Luna Park.
James sounds awesome here too! Nothing new though, as he was outstanding on Luna Park and Score as well. The post-production is decent, with a bit too much auto-tune. But I honestly would rather have a bit too much than hear any off-key notes. Sour notes drive me crazy, though they are inevitable in the live setting.
Oh, and one last thing....brilliant song choice! I guess it helps that SFaM is my fav. album of all time.
I saw them multiple times live and this is not how James Labrie sings in a live performance. Unless he found a way to sing almost perfectly which I doubt. I like how the drum sounds, but jesus the drumming needs some feels to it. It sounds to me like it was a robot playing it. Add some human feels to it, please stop the automation of music. Not trying to be a troll here just pointing facts and opinion
Extraña subconsciente sensación
Inconsciente relajación
Que pesadilla tan placentera
Y no puedo esperar a llegar allí de nuevo
Cada vez que cierro mis ojos
Hay otra vívida sorpresa
Otra vida completa esperando
Capítulos sin terminar, desvanecimiento
Ahora más cerca
Lentamente haciéndose visible
He llegado
Atraviesa con sus rayos el cegador brillo del sol
Hay una casa a la que soy arrastrado
Entorno familiar, nada diferente
Hay un camino que lleva allí
Con un espantoso helaje en el aire
Hay una habitación al final de las escaleras
Cada noche soy arrastrado allá
Hay una niña en el espejo
Su cara se hace cada vez más clara
¿Joven niña puedes decirme porque estoy aquí?
En sus ojos
Siento una historia no contada
Detrás del disfraz
Hay algo desgarrándole el alma
“Esta noche lo he estado buscando
Un sentimiento muy dentro de mi
Esta noche he estado buscando
A ese que nadie conoce
Tratando de liberarme”
No lo puedo evitar
Siento que me salgo de mi cabeza
me parte el corazón en dos
No soy ese
La durmiente pensaba que el lo sabía
DE VUELTA SOBRE MIS PIES
OJOS ABIERTOS AL MUNDO REAL
METROPOLIS ME RODEA
EL ESPEJO ROMPIÒ A LA CHICA
PORQUE HAY ESTA OTRA VIDA
ACECHáNDOME CADA DÌA
ATRAVESARÍA HASTA SALIR AL OTRO LADO
SI SOLO SUPIERA EL CAMINO
HAY ALGO DESAGRADABLEMENTE FAMILIAR
EL SENTIMIENTO ES DIFÍCIL DE SACUDIR
PUDE HABER VIVIDO EN ESA REALIDAD APARTE
ES UNA CONEXIÓN QUE ESTOY PREDESTINADO A REALIZAR
SIGO BUSCANDO PERO NO SE QUÉ ES LO QUE BUSCO
LA LLAVE PERDIDA QUE ABRE LAS PUERTAS DE LA MENTE
“hoy lo estoy buscando
Un sentimiento que no se va
Hoy estoy buscando
a ese que solo yo se
Tratando de liberarme”
Simplemente no puedo evitarlo
Siento que me estoy saliendo de mi cabeza
Me parte el alma en dos
No soy ese
Siempre pensé que sabía
Simplemente no puedo evitarlo
Siento que me estoy saliendo de mi cabeza
Inédito, extraño deja vu
Pero no me importa
Espero encontrar
La verdad.
Brace yourself Mangini fans, here comes the portnoy fan club.
MP been gone for 6 years, DT is still great without him, MM came in and nailed it... I think that is why MP fans are so pissy , cause MM replaced him and did just as good if not better
@@mw534 No one can replace MP. Mangini is a great drummer everyone knows that. But the thing is that Mangini's just playing MP's parts.
June Kevin Enriquez he DID replace him, I’ve see DT 3 times since MP punked out, and I don’t miss him one bit, he left the band cause he was”burnt out” , so what did he do to get over it, went and played for another band, to hell with MP
@@junekevinenriquez5503 if nobody can replace MP then explain how Mangini is on the drums
@@junekevinenriquez5503 that's just a delusion you made for yourself because you got attached to Portnoy.
And yet another video that Dream Theater fans can rip on trivial matters about the band varying from Mangini's head band to whether James' voice sounds good or not. Either enjoy the music or don't watch it. Pretty simple.
3:10 hahahaha havin some fun there petrucci?
Mike is such a technical drummer, bit boring though.. . still kicks ass!!
when did they become so boring?
Jesus, Labrie's voice has aged well! He still sounds just as good as he did over 10 years ago! Can't wait to see them next week :)
no doubt that these guys are a level above everyone else
Fuck the mixer! Where's bass groove?! Holy shit!
Damn that was good. So far this orchestra sounds much better than the one from Score...never like that one too much, but it probably had more to do with the arrangement than the skill of the musicians. It felt like they were struggling to keep up.
they are better because the orchesta are all Dream Theater Fans !
talobassprog exactly! and the maestor is Eren Başbuğ. he is one of the youngest talented musician iv ever heard. he is absolutely brilliant! you should check his octavarium orchestra cover .
To me it sounds like the orchestra in Score had a problem with the venue (during six degrees the echo made everything sound slightly messy), not to add that Score had a larger orchestra.. But well, of course there's Eren with us now, he really knows what he's doing. Sounds like this DVD:s gonna be one of DT's best.
ba tu Is he the guy who's working with Jordan Rudess on the Symphonic Theater of Dreams project?
Alex Burchell he works with JR but not on that project. also studies at berklee college of music on electronic production & design.has own his own band which is also amazing. check his channel my friend /channel/UCLFlyviZXb5Pw5L89zpVosQ
I watch from 00:00 till end.....
DT is profesor of music inside
That is so cool how they included Berklee students!
I'm going to see these guys in a week.....I can't wait!!
The beginning of this song is so powerful. It gives me goosebumps every time.
This is an awesome new sound for DT, hope they stay with the direction they are heading in the future! - #RRRoadCrew #RandyHolmes
? New sound?
Stop complaining about the mix! This is a highly compressed youtube video. What do you expect? Buy the bluray and then judge!
soo much criticism and negativity. like they say, haters gonna hate, you can't satisfy all.
me i'm loving it, in fact this DVD is looking great. i am so happy, reminds me of score (the best for me at all levels).
as i already said, masterpiece, nobody does it like DT
great band great song
I'm impressed with LaBrie's vocals, I don't recall hearing him sound this good live! And it REALLY sounds good as a whole!
LaBrie sounds fucking horrible. He hasn't sounded great for a decade, lately he's sounding intolerable.
You're crazy
4:35-4:48 Is auto-tuned heavily, unfortunately. And that does not sound like JP's backing voice. Which is sad...
Haha ya, not to mention a majority of the whole song. When he sings "if only I find the way" at 4:22, it sounds like a keyboard. Why they went way overboard with the auto-tune, I'm not sure. It's not like his pitch is that far off. They could have easily used extremely light auto tune to the point where it would be hardly noticeable but still be in tune.
***** It is true they're using backing tapes. As much as I'd like it not to be the case, they have without a doubt auto-tuned the lead vocals. Listed to the phrase "won't go away" at 4:04. If that's not obvious auto-tune, I don't know what is. It's a shame they do it so obviously. No one can sing that perfectly in pitch, and when I hear that keyboard-like vocal sound in rock music it just sounds hilarious. That heavy of auto-tune belongs in radio pop, not Dream Theater.
***** and because Portnoy's not there to sing it anymore haha I wish JR would get a mic, he doesn't have the best singing voice but he holds pitch pretty well and isn't bad at all
B rad 4:05 is just the compression, but it does sound modified at 4:35, it's probably a vocal effect (yes, you can do vocal effects live). However, the whole song is, in fact, slightly auto-tuned.
why would they have to auto tune his voice and leave other mistakes alone to be heard? Makes no sense, so I don't think it's auto tune. I think you're hearing the strings in the mix, and also the backing vocals of all those people standing in the back of the band. There are so many things going on instrumentally. James makes an obvious error going into the first chorus, and they didn't fix it....at 2:00 he starts the phrase with the wrong note. Probably was distracted, but I could give a shit. He's an amazing vocalist live, and he's human! Dream Theater - Official Video Strange Deja Vu (Live From The Boston Opera House)
Mangini is a beast here and in all this concert's songs... the only thing I miss from Portnoy is that he was mor "showy" and expressive with his playing... that shows Mangini plays way too efortless.
3:08 Foda!!!
MANTAP JOSS. 👍👍👍👍👍
This is one of my favorite DT songs, but i feel that Mangini has butchered the song by not playing the fills Portnoy played in his day... this is not the song i like
I think that this mix and mastering is much better then live at luna park. i recommend that you listen this epic live performance on some audiophile headphones over 200 us. or HI FI speakers> not on some low fi computer Z class speakers that does not have sound frenquencies and that are for discusion in that area in middle range from 400 to 1000 hz > you will ofcourse not hear some orchestra parts or choir parts. if you listen on them.
I cannot hear orchestra... :(
2:42 needs more cowbell
Is LaBrie using autotune?
Never ever!
Put it on 2x speed
Thank me later
Mike Mangini is a really good replacement for portnoy, but damn the energy level is 0 compare to portnoy , its acctually boring to watch him play
+lacslack I recommend watching The Shattered Fortress from this concert, he's literally jumping off the stool during it!
portnoy is the best !!!! dream theater is death...
Wow, there's actually more to love with one of my all-time fave DT songs, thanks to Mangini!! i love how he makes the band sound more knitted together, no exaggerations, and his uber steady unrushed tempo, and how he fits all those notes in his fill-ins towards the end, and how he plays in unison with James "Strange de-ja-vu" 😍 His drums are literally singing too.. i can go on... i love Mangini, he's the best that has happened to DT after Rudess IMO 😍
Oh ma F**kin God! This is the most awesome thing ever seen of Mike Mangini! Now im lovin him! Good Job Man!
But mix Myung louder!!
I didn't think Mangini could annoy me any more, but a headband? Seriously?
Who cares what he's wearing? Did you hear him play?
I recall him saying something about the headband helping keep his in-ear monitors in place, it's purely a practicality thing for him.
So yeah, the fact that he wear a headband change the music he plays. So nice that you care more about the look than the music.
Mangini's playing is technically very good, but wtf is going on with that hair of his?
SamhainMisfit That's another one, he says that the kind of length that he had when he joined the band has a larger tendency to get in his eyes while he played so he grew it out for that reason.
To all the B boys & Fly Girls out there in never never land, take a good hard look at what REAL music looks n sounds like. Suxx to be you
Call me a fan boy, but i still miss Portnoy. I can't listen those new albums. Dream Theater was it was in 2011. Portnoy has substantial presence on the songs when we talk about the music production and composing. Dream Theater is clearly different from 2011 after Mike Portnoy.
+Vinicius Suguri Fanboy.
+Vinicius Suguri dafuck you doing here then? dear god, get over it. Close this video and listen to the Winery Dogs. Really tired of you all complaining over and over again. Portnoy left the band by his OWN decission. Get over it. Don't listen to DT anymore if you don't like it, we won't miss you.
James Labrie has always been an underrated MONSTER, yes... he had his food poisoning issue that fucked him for a good 15 years. However, as a musician covering dream theater, I can tell you you'll find a lot of singers out there with good vocal range, they'll sing some crazy power metal high toned songs but they'll pussy out on dream theater. You guys have no idea how tough it is to do what JLB does night after night, its not only the high tones and the vibratos, its so much more... Its the way he plays out a character while he is singing, the odd time signatures he plays to, such demanding key signature transitions etc. Im so glad he is having some recognition and FINALLY a decent live mix PLEASE PPL SMOKE ONE AND CRANK IT UP WITH HEADPHONES the choir is surreal.
I'll tell you what. I used to hold James Tate on the highest regard and James Labrie as a meh kind of guy. As years passed and I saw what each individual did with their God given gifts I sincerely and honestly respect Labrie so much is no joke. I forgot when was the last time I heard Tate sing, even though I actually went to meet him.
And btw, I asked Jaime Vendera for help BECAUSE of what happened to James. That was when I tried to start singing. The guy is for real.
Also that's not the ONLY VC James has asked for help. He's on the journey and deserves respect for that alone.
***** Look at that, I can't even tell his name right anymore. Geoff Tate I mean.
terrible mix as usual
At least justify. Everything is never enought but don´t put down the band just like that.
fuck off kid. (:
whateva m8.
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