Daniel, I'd like to personally thank you for your excellent reviews. Because of them, I've recently purchased the LG C1 48" OLED, and built a new system (for the first time in literal decades) based on the 7700X and the 6800 XT. The CPU was a particularly nice deal since Micro Center not only discounted them with AMD's lower MSRP announcement, but kept the deal where you received 32GB of DDR5 6000 RAM for free. Cannot be any happier with this setup, nor your great content.
@@Sir-Lewis-P-Diddy-Hamilton do they burn in. The only OLED screen I have is the one on my phone and the keyboard is burnt into the screen lol. I can imagine hud elements in games possibly burning in
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe I've had the 48" C1 as a monitor for over a year now (also thanks to Daniel's videos about it) and I haven't had any burn-in. I have a 2-min sleep timer in Windows and also have the taskbar set to hide when in use, to reduce the chances. Works well for me, although it has a few flaws like having ads in the OS. The colours are a bit dull until you do some basic tuning, and then they're very rich and vibrant.
@Boofy Goofy I wanted to see the performance difference at 1440p. Daniel is one of the few RUclipsrs that puts out 6800XT content. I'll definitely be sticking with my card for a while. Not worth buying unless you have a good 4k monitor IMO
@Boofy Goofy 6800XT owner here as well, I game at 4k 120hz on my TV, but I’ll take anything from a consistent 60fps and up (as I’m solely playing single player games with this setup). Daniel helps me not spend more money and wait, I share your sentiment
Im building my first PC ever. I was thinking of going for 6800XT instead of 3080 for the way they are priced. But im also confused whether I should increase my budget to go for something better as 6800XT is a 2 year old card. So, should I go for 6800XT or increase my budget or go for 3080Ti as some people tell me Nvidia cards are more reliable overall?
@@Cruzo.420 yes they are, the plus of having an Nvidea card against an AMD is that it better for content creators an streaming in general, AMD as of now is a card for gamers getting a little bit more than the other counterpart in some games but the drivers are better too on nvidea side, if your plan is for gamer only AMD is the best choice but it only lacks rt performance, if rt is a must get the nvidea one.
Congratulations on break 100k subs before the end of the year! Glad I discovered your channel before I upgraded from i5 4400k to i5 13600k ddr5. I think I made good decisions so far, looking forward to saving up soon for a new GPU.
Just wanna say congrats to all your success. You really helped me stay in the loop in regards to GPUs when I was looking to upgrade. Crazy to see how much you've grown since I started watching.
Bought a 6800 XT today, feels good man to finally find something that did not make me feel ripped off. Coming from a 980 Ti so this gonna be a huge upgrade
@@selohcin While the 6800xt is overpriced, it's considerably less overpriced than any of the nvidia competition or the rx 7000 series. I'm definitely not buying it, but if now is the time that somebody wants to buy for reasons that apply to their personal situation, it's not a crazy choice.
@@MoireFly It wouldn't be a crazy choice if it were selling for less than $600, but I've been checking every day this week and have never seen one selling for less than $700. I am NOT paying that price for that card.
@@selohcin It was really good a few months ago. The ASRock model was only like 550$ after taxes and rebate on Newegg for a while. They got all bought out and now thats the horrible prices you see now. I ended up buying a used 6800xt.
Seeing the comparison with 6800 XT as a baseline really makes you wonder how much room is left in the lineup for a Navi 32 "7800 XT". Does it really make sense to launch a 7800 XT for ~15% more performance, if 7900 XT is only 20-30% in most titles? Don't feel great about it...
Yep, that 15% is the same uplift as 6800XT >> 6950XT. Then 7800XT = 6950XT but less noisy, hot and "coil whiny". It will be a GPU that should be interesting if it's price comes down enough.
Soon we will know. 7800xt and 7700xt launch September 6 in a week from now. It's really crazy tho. Cause I get the 7800xt msrp is 150$ lower than original 6800xt, 650 to 499$ now. But the 7700xt is still 449$. Who tf will buy a 12gb if you can get a stronger card and with 16gb vram for just 50$ more? 7700xt seems dead on arrival
I find these comparisons entertaining though I have no intention on buying any of these cards. Looking forward to the eventual 4070 ti vs 7900 xt review!
@@hartsickdisciple I have been saying this for some time. Vram can only take you so far with increased FPS. XT will no doubt be faster vs 4070ti. But, at the same time, you see how the RTX 4080 is 16GB? But, yet is much faster vs XT? And even XTX at times?
@@hartsickdisciple Sorry, yes, you're correct. I was originally getting confused with Nivida's marketing. But, at either case,, my point being that even with the XT and XTX having increased memory VS even with the 16gb 4080. The 4080 still comes out at top. Especially when you add in RT. Video memory can only take you so far in increased FPS.
Thank you for all the info Owen, I've been watching you for the last week to know which new GPU to buy... and my final choice as... AMD 6700XT I'ma be honest... I can't afford a 6800, much less a 7000 series, MUCH less an Nvidia card... Your reviews and a few others have shown that I've been pushed out of being able to afford an Nvidia card, they aren't being made for poor people like me.
My XFX Merc 6800XT is getting delivered tomorrow. Was able to snatch it for 590 from Amazon. Will wait for 4070ti reviews and will decide then. I use a big ass Aw3821dw for work and play. Thank you for this comparison.
@@Stardomplay too weak for what? It depends on what resolution you use. In 1440p I get a 100+ fps in pretty much everything with setting maxed out. It'll be at least another full year or two before I'll have to start turning down settings. For 4K I understand the argument. If you have a good 4k monitor the new cards are worth the investment
I bought almost new 6800xt for 300 Euro. Applied liqued metal thermal paste, fully overclocked. Stable around 70 degrees at Rdr2. Stayed around 50-60 degrees on Dota 2 with 1440p resolution. Upgraded GTX 970. I am really happy for it and it will be the best if I can sell gtx970 for about 100 euro.
Notice how the 7900XT is running cooler at a lower fan RPM, though. That needs to be acknowledged. I personally prioritize performance-per-watt and noise over getting every frame I can possibly get. This is gonna be the unappreciated hidden gem of a card when its price drops.
If you can lower your usage by 100w, you will save about 2 cents per hour on your electricity bill. What a deal, totally worth the $400 price increase.
@@joshmonus I dont know if ur being sarcastic or not, but if you buy something that price you should be able to afford electricity bills. Also the 7900 xtx idles at 150w so the rtx cards are a much better deal. The wine on it is alot too. I dont know why people want thir gpus to stay under 60 temp, 70 is completely fine.
@@joshmonus To me, it's not about the cost of electricity, it's about the amount of it you're drawing from the coal power plants that are producing it, and how much wasted electricity is just turned into heat.
Was seriously considering a new PC build late Oct and for about a two week period Knew-eggz had the 6800XT for $479. I waited... and the price shot up from there. Once it hit $550 I just got a PS5 GoW bundle.. the way I looked at it, an entire system for the same price as a mid tier last gen card.
If all you want to do is play new games, then a PS5 is all you need for that. Every game that matters has a performance mode that's at least 1440p 60fps now. I'm sure that will change in a few years, but so will the price of graphics cards.
In my country the 6800 XT is approx. 760 USD while I got the 7900 XT for approx 1050 USD (with a small discount code), so I am happy with my choice. Although I hate the current GPU prices, I have been waiting for almost two years to upgrade my 5700 XT.
I explained in a previous video that when I ran my benchmarks my stats program would not show the power draw. It wasn't intentional. For reference my 7900 xtx reports about 350w under full utilization which I showed in a video yesterday.
@@IchiroSakamoto Makes me wonder if this is inherent to being chiplet based. I'd be perfectly ok with this if they were called RX 7800 and RX 7800 XT and priced accordingly.
@@JoelHernandez-tz3vk NVidia doubled their FP32 shaders for 30 series, the IPC gain was 27%. RNDA3 has also doubled FP32 shaders, and clocks faster, but performance gain was a half-gen leap. AMD said 50% gain in perf/watt, I'm not seeing it.
Thank you. I just bought a 6800xt because of you. It serves me well for my 1440p gaming fun time. Interesting stuff is that Ray tracing is absolutely fine on many games with this card. It can easily be high fps RT if useless settings are lowered. It is insane what this card can do and I'm surprised you are the only one I could find that tests multiple levels of ray tracing and balancing settings for benchmarks. It shows that "ultra" everything is not the usual thing people should do. In contrary, some settings give marginal benefits for a lot of computing power cost (4k textures are a good example of hardly noticeable difference, even when pixel peeping) Edit: it was only 500$ used, which is a damn steal for such a jewel. I'm super happy.
I think this is important to remember. Some games, like Cyberpunk 2077 can benefit HEAPS by lowering effects like volumetric cloud / flog from ultra -> medium with no visual difference but large FPS gains. Benchmarks are obviously useful, but I would say most users should / do tweak their settings anyway. I agree, 6800 XT is a beast for 1440p, and you can gain 7 - 10 fps from a pretty safe OC too.
As someone who just upgraded from a rtx 3060ti, the 7900xt is such a big upgrade since 8gb vram is also not enough at 1440p in 2023. Like in games like re4 remake, I would dip below 60fps with settings turned down which is unacceptable. I'm so glad I upgraded to the 7900xt with the 20gb vram needed for games
If I had anything from a 6800 XT to 6950 XT, I probably wouldn't upgrade this generation. I personally have a 2080 Super and the XTX would be a fantastic upgrade for me. I'm actively looking for a Sapphire Nitro+ or Powercolor Red Devil model. If I can't find one then I'll settle for a 4080 but really don't want to go with Nvidia this generation.
I have a 6800XT and probobly won't upgrade anytime soon. Performance is great for 1440p gaming. Maybe sometime next year I'll grab a 4080ti/4090 or the one of the refreshed 7900XTX cards and make the jump to 4k
I must say keep your 2080 super for another generation. All of the deals of this generation are horrible. 4080 for $1200 that's ridiculous and that card isn't even a real 80 class card. Compare 3090 to 3080, there was not much difference but 4080 is a significantly cut down version of the 4090 so it kinda sucks. 4070 Ti for $800 now looks like a better deal so I'd keep that in mind. But we'll see with the reviews. And about AMD, they literally lied about the performance output of the 7000 series. I mean 30% uplift is nowhere near 70% they claimed. And that is bad. Unless the 7900XTX falls down to like 800 dollars and XT for 700, I'd skip both of them. 2080 super is a good card. With 7900xtx you can only get about 2x uplift in the real world and that card runs extremely hot, like 400 watts hot. So I don't think it's worth upgrading considering the extra bill overtime and heat that'll come out of the card.
this is why you dont update your gpu every cycle .. if i had a 6800/6900 id just skip this gen especially with the amount people prob paid for said gpus... and they already talking the next new cards (5000rtx/8000amd). i held out and kept using my gtx 1080 because the 20 series didnt wow me and bout time the 30 series came out scalper and miners ran it all.. now i have my xtx and im happy paid 999..400 more than my 1080 back in the day with wayyyyy better performance. win win and yeah no hotpots of 110 and yeah im overclocked 3000Mhz on gpu reference card easily.
Why not nvidia? At least for nvidia the 4080 allows you to get decent rt and has dlss. Amd kinda dropped the ball with rdna 3 the way they are right now and it’s not even the case of the lesser of the two devils anymore
I really wanted the XTX but here in Europe they launched for basically the same price as the 4080 (which offers better features). I ended up buying the 7900 XT for 1000 euros, where the 6800xt is around 800 euros. So all in all, I think given the difference IN EUROPE, I think it makes sense. The 7900 xt SHOULD cost 800 euros as well but I'm afraid of missing out on the Ray tracing train again after missing out on the rtx 3000 launch. Great video as usual!
If 7900XT's MSRP is $900 (everything is based on American pricing), you still gotta add 20% VAT, which would add up to $1080. Now convert that to euros and voila, you have 1006 EUR price tag. You did not overpay according to current pricing, even if these GPUs should've performed way better for this price.
I bought a 6800 XT (XFX Speedster Merc) a few months ago, and it's been really great. I paid the $700 MSRP for it (flash sale on Newegg), so I think I did okay financially. I do think ray tracing is still a bit gimmicky, and my experience with that was when I recently started Witcher 3. The auto-detect set everything to max with RT on, and while my 6800 XT could handle it I didn't like the loud fan noise, and I didn't notice a huge visual difference when I disabled it.
Raytracing will be awesome in the future, but I'd much rather pay for the AMD cards out now and get proper RT in a couple of years when there's support for it and hardware can realistically run it. I just don't see the point of paying the premium to both price and performance to play a select few games with a difference that I wouldn't care for if I didn't think about how I had just enabled raytracing.
I think the 4070 Ti is going to be notably slower than the 7900 XT, so $800 will be too high. I'm sure Nvidia will still put that MSRP on it though. That's just too much damn money for a high refresh 1440p/entry level 4k GPU. I think these insane GPU prices have the potential to kill desktop PC gaming. I've been doing it for 24 years, so I don't say that lightly. I think the prices should be: 4090: It's the best, so whatever they want to charge. 4080: $900-950 4070 Ti: $600-650 7900XTX: $800-850 7900XT: $700
@@arenzricodexd4409 I think it will have the opposite effect. GPUs getting more expensive isn't making them last any longer before they can't keep up with new games. The people who are willing to spend $1000+ on the latest and greatest will keep doing that with each new generation. The people who can't afford that but still want good performance will still buy the midrange and lower tier GPUs, because that's what they can afford. The problem is that those GPUs will still become unable to keep up with new games after a couple years, so the upgrade cycle will remain about the same... Except the upgrades will get more expensive. That will push average gamers out of the desktop PC/discrete GPU market.
Bought that 6800 xt same day you posted it. Order was marked as recieved but still no delivery date has been confirmed. Hopefully its just the holidays holding things up, but anyone looking to purchase from Fennec should keep this in mind, if they confirm anything I'll update, and if I have to chargeback or cancel well I'll update for that to lol Update: If anyone watches this and still cares, it arrived, just took them a month
Hope you have better luck than me. I bought one from the same seller December 5th and canceled the order on the 22nd. It never updated with a delivery date or anything. Never processed.
I bought the ASROCK 6800XT on the Black Friday, Cyber Monday weekend all the deals went up on Newegg. Having built PCs for the last 20 years, you start developing an inherent sense of when to buy, what generation to skip, what the real hidden value hardware is, etc. For 2022, it was the BF/CM weekend right after Thanksgiving when the prices for AMD dropped to historic lows. I don't care about Ray Tracing (now), but am pleasantly surprised the 6800XT can actually play certain games with RT enabled (at native 4K with no upscaling) at over 60fps. It depends entirely on the implementation of RT (shadows, global illumination, etc), but Nvidia likes to take the mindshare they are the only ones with decent RT performance when it's not entirely true.
I’m surprised at the low performance at 4K. I thought the latest batch of cards could do it at over 60Hz, but it looks like 1440p is still the best option for a couple more years.
Daniel, could you do these comparrisons with the 4070TI/4080 and 4090 (maybe pitting the 4070TI vs the 7900XT, and 4080 vs XTX) after the 4070Ti launches within the next few weeks plz ? some of us are trying to plan out witch card to eventually consider buying (IF they pricedrop/get on sales).
There is almost no chance the 4070ti beats the 7900xt, remember even if it has the same cores as the 4080, that 30% reduction in memory bus is going to hurt a lot.
@@michaelmcconnell7302 Ah, well, it'll be pretty brutal then, I'd expect it to fall more in line with a 6900xt. This really has been the "please buy out the rest of the 3090 stock" generation from nvidia. AMD hasn't helped a ton with a fairly modest generational increase, however the new 7900s are pretty nice feature wise.
Although my RX 6800 (Non XT) is currently overkill for 1080p, I'm planning to stay at this resolution to extend the longevity of this card. This should let me keep everything at ultra high fps for many years to come.
6800xt with the 3600 cpu. I upgraded from a 2060 in April when I got the reference card from amd at msrp. Having a great time at 1440p on a 32 inch monitor and high settings. Not getting the current Gen cards. No need at 1440p
I did a xmas build for my kid and gave her my old 5700xt and cpu. 6800XT is exactly what I went for to replace because I knew after NVidia saying it was pricing per performance to get rid of overstock and AMD saying its top model wasn't competing with the 4090, that this next gen was going to be a bust. They just moved the line forward and there's no replacement like we should have seen for price points. There's no point buying this gen unless you get the 4090 or really really really want to overpay for 4k gaming.
I'm more of a 100 fps minimum kind of guy as well. I don't like seeing individual frames. I would love to see how low the quality settings would have to go to hit 100+ on the lows for 7900 series. I feel like thats how most people would try to play the game. It's nice to see the performance with nanite and lumen though. Sorry to be picky, I really enjoy the videos. :) glad you're getting samples sir.
The thing is, I'm testing Nanite and Lumen, not Fortnite. Fortnite is unfortunately the only game I can test them in. Turning off those features would defeat the purpose. That being said, I did turn down settings and upscale to show high fps settings at 1440p and 4K.
Naw G., most people would not play Fortnite like that. The Nanite and Lumen go hard in this game and it really is a showpiece for what UE5.1 can do. I mean you can blame your k/d on frames per second but we all know what's really going on.
@@BlackJesus8463 Right. Who mentioned k/d? I've never seen someone aim for 60 fps in a BR. Nobody criticized nanite and lumen either. Weirdo. They do slap in that game though.
@@danielowentech I get that completely. What I meant is @1440p high was 85 fps, I was just curious if 1440p medium WITH nanite and lumen would keep above 100fps. Not a criticism, just a request maybe? Sorry if I came off rude.
Sure but that's not the point of the video. It's to illustrate how well these cards do on unreal engine 5, which will be the most popular game engine in the coming years.
If you're investing 2-5k on a pc, you definitely will. You need to remember that buyers of these GPUs believe in 4k VRR ultra settings with everything turned to 11.
@@zacthegamer6145 Its not just about graphics card but also about having gameplay advantages with low settings. Low settings provides gameplay advantages as well as more frames, in turn low input latency in turn more advantage.
Great vid! Kinda disappointed in the 7900XT tbh. Also does it look like it is stuttering pretty bad in the Callisto Protocol and Cyberpunk segments? Almost like the frame render time is jacked up...
Hello Daniel, I love your videos, they are also very insightful - detailed. ONE question - comment: why isn't consumption indicated next to the two new video cards, it would be absolutely perfect that way (as with the 6800XT) HE . and sorry for any imperfect English :)
I did indeed catch a 6800XT for about 640€ a few weeks ago but at that time I wasn't sure if the 7900s might be the better pick. When the first trustworthy Benchmarks came it was clear as day that none of the cards would beat the 6800XT price performance ratio. It was also getting clear quickly that the XTX sold out quickly and is hard to get at MSRP anyways. So with the 6800XT able to run everything I throw at it with ease it was really the most sensible way to go and I'm quite happy I could still catch one at that price. Anyways, thanks for the video. I think the strongest message here is: just because the 7900s are new they aren't almighty and just because the RTX 4000s are priced so terribly doesn't mean the RX are "good" value. Furthermore, "old" cards still deliver a very solid experience unless you really want to push it at 4k max settings RT wherever (at which point the only way to go is to get a 4090). Wishing you a great start into the new year Daniel!
Even w the 4090, dead space doesn't hit constant 60fps @4k max. I think that's a little ridiculous consider we are well into the new generation of consoles and the most cost effective way to game comfortable at 4K is still w a console. Glad my job involves electronics so I can indulge in these luxuries but I refuse to buy MSRP until the prices are reasonable. So probably never again.
I must be bored as hell to almost finish that entire video 😂 appreciate the leg work but I just wanted to hear you get to a point. You just kept rambling my dude
Perhaps a point that was missed is that the MERC Speedster was a top-end 6800XT implementation. It could be over-clocked and remain stable, with a max gain of up to 15% vs the reference 6800XT. So for this specific card, a more reasonable uplift comparison would be 1.2 and 1.4. Further, that MERC card sold for up to $150 ABOVE MSRP.
Could you do Lumen only test on lower-end HW? Turn settings to Medium and Keep Lumen at Max? I hope Lumen will get optimized so everyone can play with it
This generation reminds me a lot of the 20xx series launch. I bet prices will come down a lot next year with GPU refreshes like they did with the 2070 super. My 3070 is still just fine at “4k” with the upscaling tech so I’m in no rush to upgrade.
@@hansimeier4136 yea it’s just not worth it when you can go grab a 3080 ti for way less. They’re going to have to cut prices eventually it’s just time to wait.
@@hansimeier4136 honestly I personally don’t think anything is worth upgrading to from the 3070. I still get great frame rates in new demanding games with DLSS/FSR 2.0 upscaling. I’m personally going to wait until my 3070 can’t hit 90ish FPS in new games on high settings.
I got this 6800XT in August for $702. I don't regret the higher amount, especially because I tried buying a non XT in 2020 for like $730+. The MERC was $800 MSRP originally. Unlike what many people say, I have not noticed any coil whine and it is possibly the quietest card I've ever had. Very well built. I recommend it, especially at the price in this video. I forgot it was 3x DP instead of 2x DP and 2x HDMI.
I got the 7900 XTX and I love it. Price aside, it's not a bad card. It performs really well giving 3090Ti RT performance while being small enough to enter a small form factor PC. Personally, I don't really mind the price, I care way more about the Form Factor/Performance since I have a SFF PC. I wouldn't recommend anyone get these new cards while the last gen cards provide great value and are still available
@@tikz.-3738 Well it depends, Value is subjective. I got the 3080Ti in the middle of the scalpocaplse because I needed a GPU for my work/edit PC. So getting this card at $1000 for my Gaming PC build is absolutely great value
@@tikz.-3738 first not sure if your talking to me or OP lol not sure what triggered you but.. lack of what features RT .. literally one game i own uses it i dont buy games for RT what else DLss 3 ...i just upgraded from a gtx1080 do you think i give a fk about that either. literally paid 400 more than than the 7 year old card i had for wayyy more performance and DON'T have any hotspots to boot (110) and have easily pushed my ref card to 2900-3100MHz and oc the vram with max PL .. thats if your comment was directed to me lol. im not a fanboy actually think for myself i decided to skip nvidia this time around you like what you like and have a good one and yes the boats floating quite well. read if you want not responding just a fyi my 2 cents
Hey Daniel; I’m in the market for a new GPU (i game on 1440 usually but also have a high performance 1080 monitor as well) with a $400-$600 budgets for the GPU and I already have my new CPU picked out pretty much and will cost about $189-$249 depending on which cpu variant I go with, I have a 5700xt right now. Been looking at 6800 and 6800xt, not really looking into the new gen. My PSU is a plat certified Corsair 750w. I know that is pushing it with the 6800xt but wouldn’t be with the 6800. So I rather get the 6800xt but I’d also rather not have to get a new PSU and have to rewire and cable manage everything in my rig lol. I run a 3900x with 3600mhz c16 g skillz ram. Going to upgrade cpu as well which won’t cause any additional power draw, maybe even less if I get a 5700x instead of the 5800x, I would actually drop wattage considering the 3900x already can draw up to 105w just like all the new Ryzen 7s (besides the 5700x 65w). Sooo what should I do? 6800 or 6800xt with an undervolt. I’d imagine I’d still only be using 50-60% of the PSU which is ideal. If I’ll be bottled necked by my PSU I’ll prob just go with the 6800 non xt and overclock it, just will be missing some compute units. I need an opinion here brother. For 1440p gaming 6800 or 6800xt reminder I am working with a 750w plat psu which is the lowest requirement for the 6800xt. So maybe 6800xt with a slight undervolt? I’m trying to avoid having to upgrade my psu but still get better performance. Lol
A good 750PSU is more then enough for an 6800XT. Even a good 650PSU should be able to manage an 6800XT without any problem assuming your not overclocking and using 10 HD's. If a PSU can handle the 6800XT depends if the PSU can handle the spikes. Older psu have problems handling the spikes because the spikes can triggers the OCP. Corsair is a good brand although they also have more budget models like the CS series. any RM or RMx model 650w or higher should be ok.
Not sure where you are getting that amazon pic or when, but I did a search just now, and most of the RX 6800 XT's are over 700 bucks. The only XFX RX 6800 XT core is 779 bucks. The XFX RX 6800 core is 599. So please update your pricing. At those prices it makes better sense to go with a 7900 xt for 899
I will tell you this my, personal upgrade rule is wait until the upgrade is at least 3x faster than your current GPU assuming you already have a mid-range or better gpu. in September 2013 I went from from a HD Radeon 6770 I got off ebay for 40$ to a HD Radeon 7970 for 300$. It was exactly a 3x boost in performance and was the longest used GPU I ever had. It lasted so long in fact that by 5.5 years the card started to show signs of failing. But to use the GPU for 5.5 years and still be not just usable, but with exceptional performance was pretty amazing. I was forced to buy a used RX580 4gb during the early 2019 crypto crash. While the RX580 still served me well, it was only a 50-60% boost in performance. it at least held me over until I upgraded my long-owned fx8350 platform, I upgraded to a 6800XT in august 2021, and can run almost everything in 1440P max settings in 144fps with no FSR on. I'm hoping to get at least 5.5 years out of this gpu as well. Unless the industry throws some weird curve balls out and games start running more demanding than I feel this is a easily approachable metric.
@@pauls4522 I'm on a gtx 1070 that I've owned for about 6 years now, it's still runs games on high settings at 1080p. I'm just gunna wait a year or so more and when I upgrade monitors I'll upgrade gpu's. Maybe I'll upgrade to a 144hz 1440p monitor and get something to beast that with all the bells and whistles turned on in graphics settings. It surprises me that people upgrade every generation when you've got a lot of juice in your hardware, and at the time of purchase you can play every game released to that point if you get a mid range to high system
Even with the XTX's uplift from the 6800xt which I currently run it just isn't a game changer for performance... So expensive and you still have to make big compromises. :(
Went from a 3080 ti to a 7900 XTX and it was pretty game changing for me. I need a new monitor and my frames in Skyrim (ultra modded) and Cyberpunk have gone up dramatically. 4K performance difference in night and day, I have a CPU bottleneck at 1440 which is crazy considering I have a 5800x3d.
I'm currently looking to upgrade my GPU, with a budget of around $900, I've been looking at either the Gigabyte 4070 Ti Gaming OC and the ASRock 7900 XT Phantom OC. Seeing your benchmarks has got me leaning more towards the 7900 XT, I'm not a fan of AI generated frames being used to artificially inflate FPS, if it increases input latency, is it really an FPS increase?
Totally agree, I rather have raw power rather than fake ai stuff. Plus the vram limit in 4070ti will most likely be an issue in the future. Went with the 7900 xt as well
i have 4070ti, Frame generator doesnt impact image quality, and latency you wont even notice. For me this is a game changer. Witcher 3 on all ultra + rt ultra 3440x1440 without any DLSS or FG i have like 30-45fps, with only FG i get around 65-70, when I enable DLSS2 qualiy together with FG my FPS goes to around 90-100. So From 30-45fps i went to like 90-100 which is crazy. Cyberpunk 2077 all on ultra with RT psycho 3440x1440 raw fps 30-40 (My CPU is a bit bottlneck 5 5600x) when I turn on FG i get boost to like 60-75fps, when I enable DLSS2 Quality I get like 80-110fps.
Daniel, this is one of the best reviews that I have seen if not the best thanks alot your extensive info/summary & attention to detail you have easily earnt a sub. Just need help deciding an upgrade, So iI play extended 1440p (3440x1440) and wanted to upgrade my current card (rx 6800xt) to play RT games with Ultra setting comfortably, would you recommend getting the rx7900xt or jumping to Nvidea? It would be appreciated if you can help or anyone.
I think Nvidia are doing a good job with RT or content creation so I think you will get better P/P in Nvidia than AMD but i personally think the RX 7900XT is a good deal over all since it is better then 4070 ti by far without RT with RT its almost a tie with 4070 ti in the lead just by few frames per seconde more .
Thank you for your video. I would like to ask your recommendation, I am playing AAA games at 1440p (monitor supports up to 144 mhz), what GPU would you recommend if I want to upgrade? I am using Ryzen 7 5800x3D and 6700XT. I am thinking of upgrading my GPU in Q1 or Q2 2023
I got the 6800xt a little over 6 months and love it. Had my trigger on the 7900 xtx but with such high prices and GPUs overheating problem I decided to hold off. If you OC the 6800xt, you can get closer results to the 7900 xt in performance. The rtx 4090 Nvidia cards are dropping significantly I might just jump ship towards that card. Side note, fortnite did an outstanding job after their last update. Those graphics are just amazing. Looking forward to the next generation games.
@@johnboylan3832 if you're willing to pay the premium...go for it! I play various amounts of games, but nothing I enjoy actually uses ray tracing besides minecraft with shaders
Just got my 7900 XT, right below MSRP. $879 XFX Speedster black model The huge price-increase-to-low-performace gain was not worth it IMO for the XTX model. This completes my gaming build, specifically for MSFS 2020 (flight sim). This is my first personal Windows-based machine in 20 years. Hence, I DO NOT have an AIB. For me, paying $879 was something I really did not have a choice on. Whether it is bad value or not, I required the graphics power for MSFS as the previous generation AIBs were having such a hard time running it at higher settings, this included Nvidia's 3090. I will also disclose that I will not be using this for productivity, i.e. photo and video editing, I have been using, and will continue to use Mac for that. If I didn't need the extra power for MSFS, I would actually buy a 6950 XT. A XFX Speedster version is $730.
Its funny that when the 6800xt first came out, reviewers were saying the $650 MSRP for the 6800xt was not exciting enough. After the GPU shortage, they seemed to all change their minds on that initial conclusion. That's sad. It seems the shortage has lowered our expectations on value-for-money quite significantly.
Just a heads up to the viewers the numbers don't scale linearly. So if it's 100%(68XT), 130%(79XT), and 150%(79XTX) that's not to say the 79XTX is 20% better than the 79XT. Look at 1:15 for example. If you divide the bigger FPS by the smaller you get the percentage. So looking at the averages; 68/45 = 51.1% but 68/60 = 13.3%. So the 79XTX is actually only 13.3% better than the 79XT. Not 20% as you may initially think looking at the given percentages. Current prices show the 79XT at 900 and the 79XTX at 1200. 33% more cost for 13% more performance... This is just me justifying my recent 79XT purchase. =)
If Im upgrading from a gtx 1080, which card is the best value for 4k high settings? Im currently playing on 1080p monitor but ive just purchased an lg c2 oled tv to play my pc on 4k and using the 1080p monitor as a secondary unit. My gtx 1080 cant handle 4k high settings for the games i play. Mostly AAA games, elden ring, witcher 3 etc. Your thoughts are appreciated
If you’re ok with the perf you’re getting from the 6800 xt it’s much better value. The thing is that it’s not gonna push 60fps on 4k max settings in future games(most current games it can). If you’re looking for better perf than that then you’re out of luck because the 7000 series and rtx 4000 offer poor value. So if you want such a high perf card I’d rather wait a bit until their insane price goes down.
I was able to pick up an Asrock Taichi 6800XT on Newegg for $480 when Zip Pay was doing an 11% off offer at the end of November. Just today I got an email from Capital One Shopping stating my $144.00 gift card from that purchase was ready! So yes, I got a top of the line 6800XT for $336.00! The card is amazing to me considering I came from an RX570 4GB. I've been playing FC6 at 1440p with texture pack and all graphics options set as high as they can go. Smooth as silk all the way through and so far after dozens of hours of gameplay not a single crash.
Any help on deciding on a graphics card would be greatly appreciated. Im building a PC I have a Ryzen 7 5700x, b550 mobo I will be studying Unreal Engine 5, starting out as a newbie, what level graphics card would suffice? Ive been recommended a 3070ti but the lower vram in comparison to other cards puts me off.
Im building my first PC ever. I was thinking of going for 6800XT instead of 3080 for the way they are priced. But im also confused whether I should increase my budget to go for something better as 6800XT is a 2 year old card. So, should I go for 6800XT or increase my budget or go for 3080Ti as some people tell me Nvidia cards are more reliable overall?
Im about to build my PC and buy a graphics card a few months or a year later (best I could afford would be 6700xt or 6800xt) What would be the best dirt cheap gpu up to 100$
I don’t remember what channel it was, maybe LTT or Gamer Nexus, that explained how poor value budget GPUs are. You’re much better off saving money for a better one. Edit: I’m not referring to 6700 and 6800 as budget cards
I just bought the 13700k, a new Board, and a 7900xt. I'm only getting 285 at the end of the bench mark on balanced 1080p. You were getting 355. What do you think is the issue?
While I agree with you, it's easy to say this for ALL the new gen cards. Even the 4090 which everyone seems to think is priced well for it's performance at $1600.
3060 ti would be excellent at 1080p or 1440p. Nvidia typically does well with just about everything and AMD can have troubles with some older titles. However there are people that say they run 4k skyrim with tons of mods and 4k textures at a solid 60 fps with zero issues...so maybe it also has to do with how willing you are to tune your GPU and make sure your temperatures are as good as can be so-long as you set a good fan curve, undervolting and general air flow in the case. If you see yourself not wanting to mess with settings at all...just get a 3060ti or 3070 and be done with it. If you're willing to take a risk and possibly go through a little back and forth at worst...find a reputable seller of a 3080 on ebay and get it for 450-550 or so (make sure it's in working order) If you're willing to tinker around a good bit until you finally find the sweet spot for your setup...get a 6800 xt new!
no intro, not even a salute, just straight to the benchmarks. There's heroes and then there's Daniel.
Daniel, I'd like to personally thank you for your excellent reviews. Because of them, I've recently purchased the LG C1 48" OLED, and built a new system (for the first time in literal decades) based on the 7700X and the 6800 XT. The CPU was a particularly nice deal since Micro Center not only discounted them with AMD's lower MSRP announcement, but kept the deal where you received 32GB of DDR5 6000 RAM for free. Cannot be any happier with this setup, nor your great content.
Had the c1 since it's release, for my series X and PC, it's a amazing panel
@@Sir-Lewis-P-Diddy-Hamilton do they burn in. The only OLED screen I have is the one on my phone and the keyboard is burnt into the screen lol. I can imagine hud elements in games possibly burning in
Does the C1 work well with AMD freesync? I’ve only tried it with g-sync and it works flawlessly.
@@Pisscan Works awesome so far. This is with both the 6800 XT and a smaller 5560U APU that I use for daily tasks.
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe I've had the 48" C1 as a monitor for over a year now (also thanks to Daniel's videos about it) and I haven't had any burn-in. I have a 2-min sleep timer in Windows and also have the taskbar set to hide when in use, to reduce the chances. Works well for me, although it has a few flaws like having ads in the OS. The colours are a bit dull until you do some basic tuning, and then they're very rich and vibrant.
As a 6800XT owner THANK YOU for making this video.
@Boofy Goofy I wanted to see the performance difference at 1440p. Daniel is one of the few RUclipsrs that puts out 6800XT content. I'll definitely be sticking with my card for a while. Not worth buying unless you have a good 4k monitor IMO
@Boofy Goofy 6800XT owner here as well, I game at 4k 120hz on my TV, but I’ll take anything from a consistent 60fps and up (as I’m solely playing single player games with this setup). Daniel helps me not spend more money and wait, I share your sentiment
Now amd has vapour issues!
Im building my first PC ever. I was thinking of going for 6800XT instead of 3080 for the way they are priced. But im also confused whether I should increase my budget to go for something better as 6800XT is a 2 year old card. So, should I go for 6800XT or increase my budget or go for 3080Ti as some people tell me Nvidia cards are more reliable overall?
@@Cruzo.420 yes they are, the plus of having an Nvidea card against an AMD is that it better for content creators an streaming in general, AMD as of now is a card for gamers getting a little bit more than the other counterpart in some games but the drivers are better too on nvidea side, if your plan is for gamer only AMD is the best choice but it only lacks rt performance, if rt is a must get the nvidea one.
Congratulations on break 100k subs before the end of the year!
Glad I discovered your channel before I upgraded from i5 4400k to i5 13600k ddr5. I think I made good decisions so far, looking forward to saving up soon for a new GPU.
Upgraded from 3070 to 7900xt. Also upgraded cpu from r5 3600 to ryzen 7700x. The change in performance in just 2 years is bananas.
i also have a 3070 is it worth it?
Just wanna say congrats to all your success. You really helped me stay in the loop in regards to GPUs when I was looking to upgrade. Crazy to see how much you've grown since I started watching.
same as your mom. the growth is amazing
Gratz on hitting 100k, huge milestone 🎉
Been watching you for a while now, next stop: 1M!
Bought a 6800 XT today, feels good man to finally find something that did not make me feel ripped off.
Coming from a 980 Ti so this gonna be a huge upgrade
wow you held out longer than me i went from 1080 to 7900 xtx happy with my purchase
A 6800XT in this economy? Did you get it used or something? The new prices are terrible!
@@selohcin While the 6800xt is overpriced, it's considerably less overpriced than any of the nvidia competition or the rx 7000 series. I'm definitely not buying it, but if now is the time that somebody wants to buy for reasons that apply to their personal situation, it's not a crazy choice.
@@MoireFly It wouldn't be a crazy choice if it were selling for less than $600, but I've been checking every day this week and have never seen one selling for less than $700. I am NOT paying that price for that card.
@@selohcin It was really good a few months ago. The ASRock model was only like 550$ after taxes and rebate on Newegg for a while. They got all bought out and now thats the horrible prices you see now. I ended up buying a used 6800xt.
This was the exact comparison I was considering, thanks Daniel!
Seeing the comparison with 6800 XT as a baseline really makes you wonder how much room is left in the lineup for a Navi 32 "7800 XT". Does it really make sense to launch a 7800 XT for ~15% more performance, if 7900 XT is only 20-30% in most titles? Don't feel great about it...
Yep, that 15% is the same uplift as 6800XT >> 6950XT.
Then 7800XT = 6950XT but less noisy, hot and "coil whiny". It will be a GPU that should be interesting if it's price comes down enough.
Soon we will know. 7800xt and 7700xt launch September 6 in a week from now.
It's really crazy tho. Cause I get the 7800xt msrp is 150$ lower than original 6800xt, 650 to 499$ now. But the 7700xt is still 449$. Who tf will buy a 12gb if you can get a stronger card and with 16gb vram for just 50$ more? 7700xt seems dead on arrival
I find these comparisons entertaining though I have no intention on buying any of these cards. Looking forward to the eventual 4070 ti vs 7900 xt review!
7900 XT is going to be faster, plus has 20GB of VRAM versus 12 on the 4070 Ti.
@@hartsickdisciple That's a no brainer no room for growth within a couple of years' time.
@@hartsickdisciple I have been saying this for some time. Vram can only take you so far with increased FPS. XT will no doubt be faster vs 4070ti. But, at the same time, you see how the RTX 4080 is 16GB? But, yet is much faster vs XT? And even XTX at times?
@@fpshooterful The 4080 has 16GB of VRAM, not 12.
@@hartsickdisciple Sorry, yes, you're correct. I was originally getting confused with Nivida's marketing. But, at either case,, my point being that even with the XT and XTX having increased memory VS even with the 16gb 4080. The 4080 still comes out at top. Especially when you add in RT. Video memory can only take you so far in increased FPS.
Thank you for all the info Owen, I've been watching you for the last week to know which new GPU to buy... and my final choice as...
AMD 6700XT
I'ma be honest... I can't afford a 6800, much less a 7000 series, MUCH less an Nvidia card...
Your reviews and a few others have shown that I've been pushed out of being able to afford an Nvidia card, they aren't being made for poor people like me.
@Pacific Carpophagous NICE! That build is fantastic!
My XFX Merc 6800XT is getting delivered tomorrow. Was able to snatch it for 590 from Amazon. Will wait for 4070ti reviews and will decide then. I use a big ass Aw3821dw for work and play. Thank you for this comparison.
Loving my 6800 XT! Great card! Great video!
I was gonna build with this card but I might return it for a 4070 because the 6800XT is gonna be too weak in 2023.
They are great cards. I've had mine almost a year. It's the king for 1440p gaming at current prices
@@Stardomplay a 4070 is gonna be too weak in 2023 lmao
@@Stardomplay too weak for what? It depends on what resolution you use. In 1440p I get a 100+ fps in pretty much everything with setting maxed out. It'll be at least another full year or two before I'll have to start turning down settings. For 4K I understand the argument. If you have a good 4k monitor the new cards are worth the investment
@@josh4434 id be willing to bet a lot of money that a 4070 and a 6800xt will perform within 5% of each other lol
I bought almost new 6800xt for 300 Euro. Applied liqued metal thermal paste, fully overclocked. Stable around 70 degrees at Rdr2. Stayed around 50-60 degrees on Dota 2 with 1440p resolution. Upgraded GTX 970. I am really happy for it and it will be the best if I can sell gtx970 for about 100 euro.
Notice how the 7900XT is running cooler at a lower fan RPM, though. That needs to be acknowledged. I personally prioritize performance-per-watt and noise over getting every frame I can possibly get. This is gonna be the unappreciated hidden gem of a card when its price drops.
Meanwhile, I undervolted my RX 5700 XT by like 0.35V.
You creaky haven’t seen it running 100watts idling and the high fan wine🤣💀
If you can lower your usage by 100w, you will save about 2 cents per hour on your electricity bill.
What a deal, totally worth the $400 price increase.
@@joshmonus I dont know if ur being sarcastic or not, but if you buy something that price you should be able to afford electricity bills. Also the 7900 xtx idles at 150w so the rtx cards are a much better deal. The wine on it is alot too. I dont know why people want thir gpus to stay under 60 temp, 70 is completely fine.
@@joshmonus To me, it's not about the cost of electricity, it's about the amount of it you're drawing from the coal power plants that are producing it, and how much wasted electricity is just turned into heat.
Not sure how popular a comparison it would be but I would like to see 6950 XT vs 7900 XTX vs 4080.
Agreed on this.
Yes please
Was seriously considering a new PC build late Oct and for about a two week period Knew-eggz had the 6800XT for $479. I waited... and the price shot up from there. Once it hit $550 I just got a PS5 GoW bundle.. the way I looked at it, an entire system for the same price as a mid tier last gen card.
Smart call
I mean, sure. If you like much lower settings, resolution & fps in general. 6800 XT absolutely destroys the PS4's 6600 XTish GPU.
@@OC.TINYYY He said PS5..
If all you want to do is play new games, then a PS5 is all you need for that. Every game that matters has a performance mode that's at least 1440p 60fps now. I'm sure that will change in a few years, but so will the price of graphics cards.
@@jyllianrainbow7371 OR XBOX Series X + Game pass, why spend so much money to buy games for wasting your life at playing them ;)
In my country the 6800 XT is approx. 760 USD while I got the 7900 XT for approx 1050 USD (with a small discount code), so I am happy with my choice. Although I hate the current GPU prices, I have been waiting for almost two years to upgrade my 5700 XT.
Good for you! I'd much rather have an XT than a 6000.
900 USD for 6800 xt and almost 2000 USD for a xtx here
not sure why you didn't show power usage on 7900 cards, their power efficiency was the key marketing tagline so wanted to see the difference
I explained in a previous video that when I ran my benchmarks my stats program would not show the power draw. It wasn't intentional. For reference my 7900 xtx reports about 350w under full utilization which I showed in a video yesterday.
@@danielowentech basicall 1.3x more power for 1.5x frames. The perf/Watt gain is a shoddy 15%😅, barely any improvement from IPC then...
@@IchiroSakamoto Makes me wonder if this is inherent to being chiplet based.
I'd be perfectly ok with this if they were called RX 7800 and RX 7800 XT and priced accordingly.
@@JoelHernandez-tz3vk NVidia doubled their FP32 shaders for 30 series, the IPC gain was 27%. RNDA3 has also doubled FP32 shaders, and clocks faster, but performance gain was a half-gen leap. AMD said 50% gain in perf/watt, I'm not seeing it.
I repeat, AMD needs to either find 20% performance from the driver update, or drops the prices of 7900XT to $650 and 7900XTX to $800.
aaaand that’s essentially what they are doing …two years later
@@sasha_chudesnov Better late than never.😁
Thank you. I just bought a 6800xt because of you. It serves me well for my 1440p gaming fun time. Interesting stuff is that Ray tracing is absolutely fine on many games with this card. It can easily be high fps RT if useless settings are lowered.
It is insane what this card can do and I'm surprised you are the only one I could find that tests multiple levels of ray tracing and balancing settings for benchmarks. It shows that "ultra" everything is not the usual thing people should do. In contrary, some settings give marginal benefits for a lot of computing power cost (4k textures are a good example of hardly noticeable difference, even when pixel peeping)
Edit: it was only 500$ used, which is a damn steal for such a jewel. I'm super happy.
I think this is important to remember. Some games, like Cyberpunk 2077 can benefit HEAPS by lowering effects like volumetric cloud / flog from ultra -> medium with no visual difference but large FPS gains. Benchmarks are obviously useful, but I would say most users should / do tweak their settings anyway. I agree, 6800 XT is a beast for 1440p, and you can gain 7 - 10 fps from a pretty safe OC too.
Thanks Daniel for such a detailed review. I dont plan on upgrading to ddr5 but this type of info is very valuable to everyone. Congrats on 100k subs
As someone who just upgraded from a rtx 3060ti, the 7900xt is such a big upgrade since 8gb vram is also not enough at 1440p in 2023. Like in games like re4 remake, I would dip below 60fps with settings turned down which is unacceptable. I'm so glad I upgraded to the 7900xt with the 20gb vram needed for games
If I had anything from a 6800 XT to 6950 XT, I probably wouldn't upgrade this generation. I personally have a 2080 Super and the XTX would be a fantastic upgrade for me. I'm actively looking for a Sapphire Nitro+ or Powercolor Red Devil model. If I can't find one then I'll settle for a 4080 but really don't want to go with Nvidia this generation.
I have a 6800XT and probobly won't upgrade anytime soon. Performance is great for 1440p gaming. Maybe sometime next year I'll grab a 4080ti/4090 or the one of the refreshed 7900XTX cards and make the jump to 4k
6900xt'er here.
I'm gunna wait for a 7970-if it doesn't exist. Im just gunna wait 3-5 years.
I must say keep your 2080 super for another generation. All of the deals of this generation are horrible. 4080 for $1200 that's ridiculous and that card isn't even a real 80 class card. Compare 3090 to 3080, there was not much difference but 4080 is a significantly cut down version of the 4090 so it kinda sucks. 4070 Ti for $800 now looks like a better deal so I'd keep that in mind. But we'll see with the reviews. And about AMD, they literally lied about the performance output of the 7000 series. I mean 30% uplift is nowhere near 70% they claimed. And that is bad. Unless the 7900XTX falls down to like 800 dollars and XT for 700, I'd skip both of them. 2080 super is a good card. With 7900xtx you can only get about 2x uplift in the real world and that card runs extremely hot, like 400 watts hot. So I don't think it's worth upgrading considering the extra bill overtime and heat that'll come out of the card.
this is why you dont update your gpu every cycle .. if i had a 6800/6900 id just skip this gen especially with the amount people prob paid for said gpus... and they already talking the next new cards (5000rtx/8000amd). i held out and kept using my gtx 1080 because the 20 series didnt wow me and bout time the 30 series came out scalper and miners ran it all.. now i have my xtx and im happy paid 999..400 more than my 1080 back in the day with wayyyyy better performance. win win and yeah no hotpots of 110 and yeah im overclocked 3000Mhz on gpu reference card easily.
Why not nvidia? At least for nvidia the 4080 allows you to get decent rt and has dlss. Amd kinda dropped the ball with rdna 3 the way they are right now and it’s not even the case of the lesser of the two devils anymore
I really wanted the XTX but here in Europe they launched for basically the same price as the 4080 (which offers better features). I ended up buying the 7900 XT for 1000 euros, where the 6800xt is around 800 euros. So all in all, I think given the difference IN EUROPE, I think it makes sense. The 7900 xt SHOULD cost 800 euros as well but I'm afraid of missing out on the Ray tracing train again after missing out on the rtx 3000 launch. Great video as usual!
If 7900XT's MSRP is $900 (everything is based on American pricing), you still gotta add 20% VAT, which would add up to $1080. Now convert that to euros and voila, you have 1006 EUR price tag. You did not overpay according to current pricing, even if these GPUs should've performed way better for this price.
@Shaxitto I think he was talking about the xtx variant that is going for 1300 to 1500 here in EU. That puts it in the same price range as 4080
I bought a 6800xt for under msrp at $530 before less than a week ago waiting for it now gonna be a nice upgrade from my 6600xt
@@Amrit_SZN that's a great price, nice catch!
@@JoaoGuilhermePan for real and considering the 4070ti at $800 and not even a 15% performance increase i’m good
I bought a 6800 XT (XFX Speedster Merc) a few months ago, and it's been really great. I paid the $700 MSRP for it (flash sale on Newegg), so I think I did okay financially. I do think ray tracing is still a bit gimmicky, and my experience with that was when I recently started Witcher 3. The auto-detect set everything to max with RT on, and while my 6800 XT could handle it I didn't like the loud fan noise, and I didn't notice a huge visual difference when I disabled it.
Raytracing will be awesome in the future, but I'd much rather pay for the AMD cards out now and get proper RT in a couple of years when there's support for it and hardware can realistically run it.
I just don't see the point of paying the premium to both price and performance to play a select few games with a difference that I wouldn't care for if I didn't think about how I had just enabled raytracing.
RT is an overpriced gimmick in my opinion. I know people will defend RT and that's fine, but it's just not worth the nVidia premium imo.
I think the 4070 Ti is going to be notably slower than the 7900 XT, so $800 will be too high. I'm sure Nvidia will still put that MSRP on it though. That's just too much damn money for a high refresh 1440p/entry level 4k GPU. I think these insane GPU prices have the potential to kill desktop PC gaming. I've been doing it for 24 years, so I don't say that lightly.
I think the prices should be:
4090: It's the best, so whatever they want to charge.
4080: $900-950
4070 Ti: $600-650
7900XTX: $800-850
7900XT: $700
You know that the 3070 is more expensive than the 6800 XT so you know damn well nvidia would never charge less than amd there
@@TheWancer 3070 isn't more expensive than 6800 XT. It's the same price or slightly more than the regular 6800.
@@otti3397 No chance. The 7900 XT is at least 8-10% faster than 4070 Ti in most games. They're in different classes.
Kill pc gaming? Nope. Not a chance. It will kill the so called "hardware enthusiast" though that like to upgrade so often.
@@arenzricodexd4409 I think it will have the opposite effect. GPUs getting more expensive isn't making them last any longer before they can't keep up with new games. The people who are willing to spend $1000+ on the latest and greatest will keep doing that with each new generation. The people who can't afford that but still want good performance will still buy the midrange and lower tier GPUs, because that's what they can afford. The problem is that those GPUs will still become unable to keep up with new games after a couple years, so the upgrade cycle will remain about the same... Except the upgrades will get more expensive. That will push average gamers out of the desktop PC/discrete GPU market.
Bought that 6800 xt same day you posted it. Order was marked as recieved but still no delivery date has been confirmed. Hopefully its just the holidays holding things up, but anyone looking to purchase from Fennec should keep this in mind, if they confirm anything I'll update, and if I have to chargeback or cancel well I'll update for that to lol
Update: If anyone watches this and still cares, it arrived, just took them a month
How much did you pay?
@@zacthegamer6145 bought it from the same reseller Daniel posted, so 569.99, probably shoulda made that more clear in the original comment
@alias1254 Good luck and great buy. Most of post offices are shut till 2nd Jan. It will definitely ship on 3rd Jan.
Hope you have better luck than me. I bought one from the same seller December 5th and canceled the order on the 22nd. It never updated with a delivery date or anything. Never processed.
Bought mine on the 22nd from fennec, came in yesterday and I'm loving it its an amazing card very good upgrade from an rx 580 4g
I bought the ASROCK 6800XT on the Black Friday, Cyber Monday weekend all the deals went up on Newegg. Having built PCs for the last 20 years, you start developing an inherent sense of when to buy, what generation to skip, what the real hidden value hardware is, etc. For 2022, it was the BF/CM weekend right after Thanksgiving when the prices for AMD dropped to historic lows. I don't care about Ray Tracing (now), but am pleasantly surprised the 6800XT can actually play certain games with RT enabled (at native 4K with no upscaling) at over 60fps. It depends entirely on the implementation of RT (shadows, global illumination, etc), but Nvidia likes to take the mindshare they are the only ones with decent RT performance when it's not entirely true.
I’m surprised at the low performance at 4K. I thought the latest batch of cards could do it at over 60Hz, but it looks like 1440p is still the best option for a couple more years.
No rx 7900 xtx can do 4k 80+ fps in most heavy games this video is just not right
@@unknowngamer-xn4pl bro it got 60 in Cyberpunk 2077. What’s going to be heavier than that. Crysis?
Thank you for this video!!! This is the information I have been looking for everywhere!
He does that.
ONE HUNDRED K!!! Congrats Daniel! You deserve all the props, great channel!
Those percentages in the bottom left corner really make it easy to see the difference. Thanks for including that!
Thank you so much for this comparison! I asked for this in your last video and you must have already been onto it. 😁
Daniel, could you do these comparrisons with the 4070TI/4080 and 4090 (maybe pitting the 4070TI vs the 7900XT, and 4080 vs XTX) after the 4070Ti launches within the next few weeks plz ?
some of us are trying to plan out witch card to eventually consider buying (IF they pricedrop/get on sales).
There is almost no chance the 4070ti beats the 7900xt, remember even if it has the same cores as the 4080, that 30% reduction in memory bus is going to hurt a lot.
@@PineyJustice it has much fewer cores
@@michaelmcconnell7302 Ah, well, it'll be pretty brutal then, I'd expect it to fall more in line with a 6900xt. This really has been the "please buy out the rest of the 3090 stock" generation from nvidia. AMD hasn't helped a ton with a fairly modest generational increase, however the new 7900s are pretty nice feature wise.
@@PineyJustice it's basically a 3080ti with DLSS 3
@@michaelmcconnell7302 So a way overpriced 6800xt. FSR 3 is coming soon anyways.
Although my RX 6800 (Non XT) is currently overkill for 1080p, I'm planning to stay at this resolution to extend the longevity of this card. This should let me keep everything at ultra high fps for many years to come.
The other benefit of that extra power is that you can use VSR as mean to replace most of the terrible anti-aliasing methods.
6800xt with the 3600 cpu. I upgraded from a 2060 in April when I got the reference card from amd at msrp. Having a great time at 1440p on a 32 inch monitor and high settings. Not getting the current Gen cards. No need at 1440p
I did a xmas build for my kid and gave her my old 5700xt and cpu. 6800XT is exactly what I went for to replace because I knew after NVidia saying it was pricing per performance to get rid of overstock and AMD saying its top model wasn't competing with the 4090, that this next gen was going to be a bust. They just moved the line forward and there's no replacement like we should have seen for price points. There's no point buying this gen unless you get the 4090 or really really really want to overpay for 4k gaming.
I'm more of a 100 fps minimum kind of guy as well. I don't like seeing individual frames. I would love to see how low the quality settings would have to go to hit 100+ on the lows for 7900 series. I feel like thats how most people would try to play the game. It's nice to see the performance with nanite and lumen though. Sorry to be picky, I really enjoy the videos. :) glad you're getting samples sir.
The thing is, I'm testing Nanite and Lumen, not Fortnite. Fortnite is unfortunately the only game I can test them in. Turning off those features would defeat the purpose. That being said, I did turn down settings and upscale to show high fps settings at 1440p and 4K.
Naw G., most people would not play Fortnite like that. The Nanite and Lumen go hard in this game and it really is a showpiece for what UE5.1 can do. I mean you can blame your k/d on frames per second but we all know what's really going on.
@@BlackJesus8463 Right. Who mentioned k/d? I've never seen someone aim for 60 fps in a BR. Nobody criticized nanite and lumen either. Weirdo. They do slap in that game though.
@@danielowentech I get that completely. What I meant is @1440p high was 85 fps, I was just curious if 1440p medium WITH nanite and lumen would keep above 100fps. Not a criticism, just a request maybe? Sorry if I came off rude.
@@Awakened2001 Medium turns Nanite and Lumen off. ✌
You need some chart where you put all the numbers together at the end
Awesome comparison, love the last part putting the price perspective as well!
No one who plays Fortnite seriously is going to turn on Lumen and Nanite
yes but some do for fun
Sure but that's not the point of the video. It's to illustrate how well these cards do on unreal engine 5, which will be the most popular game engine in the coming years.
If you're investing 2-5k on a pc, you definitely will. You need to remember that buyers of these GPUs believe in 4k VRR ultra settings with everything turned to 11.
I do, i dont care for the 240fps and am fine with getting 80 fps but with lumen on
@@zacthegamer6145 Its not just about graphics card but also about having gameplay advantages with low settings.
Low settings provides gameplay advantages as well as more frames, in turn low input latency in turn more advantage.
Thank you for including the 650 MSRP. Many people forget that was a thing
6800xt owner here. This was the exact benchmark I was looking for. Thanks Daniel!
Great vid! Kinda disappointed in the 7900XT tbh. Also does it look like it is stuttering pretty bad in the Callisto Protocol and Cyberpunk segments? Almost like the frame render time is jacked up...
Hello Daniel, I love your videos, they are also very insightful - detailed. ONE question - comment: why isn't consumption indicated next to the two new video cards, it would be absolutely perfect that way (as with the 6800XT)
HE . and sorry for any imperfect English :)
The software I use didn't support the new GPUs reporting that stat
This video definitely deserve more views!! Great content!
I did indeed catch a 6800XT for about 640€ a few weeks ago but at that time I wasn't sure if the 7900s might be the better pick. When the first trustworthy Benchmarks came it was clear as day that none of the cards would beat the 6800XT price performance ratio. It was also getting clear quickly that the XTX sold out quickly and is hard to get at MSRP anyways. So with the 6800XT able to run everything I throw at it with ease it was really the most sensible way to go and I'm quite happy I could still catch one at that price.
Anyways, thanks for the video. I think the strongest message here is: just because the 7900s are new they aren't almighty and just because the RTX 4000s are priced so terribly doesn't mean the RX are "good" value. Furthermore, "old" cards still deliver a very solid experience unless you really want to push it at 4k max settings RT wherever (at which point the only way to go is to get a 4090).
Wishing you a great start into the new year Daniel!
Even w the 4090, dead space doesn't hit constant 60fps @4k max. I think that's a little ridiculous consider we are well into the new generation of consoles and the most cost effective way to game comfortable at 4K is still w a console. Glad my job involves electronics so I can indulge in these luxuries but I refuse to buy MSRP until the prices are reasonable. So probably never again.
Have a 7900XT reference board and its bloody amazing. Great video!
why ?
@@kennethpereyda5707 Because
@@mikem2253 same, its great
@@mikem2253 but the performance is not there, why not buy the XTX or 4080
@@eirik22 really ?
I must be bored as hell to almost finish that entire video 😂 appreciate the leg work but I just wanted to hear you get to a point. You just kept rambling my dude
Perhaps a point that was missed is that the MERC Speedster was a top-end 6800XT implementation. It could be over-clocked and remain stable, with a max gain of up to 15% vs the reference 6800XT. So for this specific card, a more reasonable uplift comparison would be 1.2 and 1.4. Further, that MERC card sold for up to $150 ABOVE MSRP.
Could you do Lumen only test on lower-end HW? Turn settings to Medium and Keep Lumen at Max? I hope Lumen will get optimized so everyone can play with it
This generation reminds me a lot of the 20xx series launch. I bet prices will come down a lot next year with GPU refreshes like they did with the 2070 super. My 3070 is still just fine at “4k” with the upscaling tech so I’m in no rush to upgrade.
I have the 3070 too. But i want to upgrade on 4070ti. But he prices are bull.shit
@@hansimeier4136 yea it’s just not worth it when you can go grab a 3080 ti for way less. They’re going to have to cut prices eventually it’s just time to wait.
@@sorenvitarelli is a 3080ti much better than the 3070?
@@hansimeier4136 honestly I personally don’t think anything is worth upgrading to from the 3070. I still get great frame rates in new demanding games with DLSS/FSR 2.0 upscaling. I’m personally going to wait until my 3070 can’t hit 90ish FPS in new games on high settings.
@@sorenvitarelli yeah. Make sense. I think I will do the same :). I play mw 2 on 1440p on max settings & dlss on quality at 120 fps. That's nice.
I got this 6800XT in August for $702. I don't regret the higher amount, especially because I tried buying a non XT in 2020 for like $730+. The MERC was $800 MSRP originally. Unlike what many people say, I have not noticed any coil whine and it is possibly the quietest card I've ever had. Very well built. I recommend it, especially at the price in this video. I forgot it was 3x DP instead of 2x DP and 2x HDMI.
i got it for 400 dollars. best bang for my buck.
@@quadragoo8484 got one for $440, but i regret it, i should ve go with rtx 3080 10G for better ray tracing 😭
Great survey of the performance with the various settings. Thank you.
I got the 7900 XTX and I love it. Price aside, it's not a bad card. It performs really well giving 3090Ti RT performance while being small enough to enter a small form factor PC. Personally, I don't really mind the price, I care way more about the Form Factor/Performance since I have a SFF PC. I wouldn't recommend anyone get these new cards while the last gen cards provide great value and are still available
Agree ! same here my reference xtx runs good and surprised at how much i could overlock /undervolt it as well
U got ripped off paying 1000 for an amd junk of a card ridden with bugs and lack of features and performance and stability but whatever floats ur boat
@@tikz.-3738 Well it depends, Value is subjective. I got the 3080Ti in the middle of the scalpocaplse because I needed a GPU for my work/edit PC. So getting this card at $1000 for my Gaming PC build is absolutely great value
@@tikz.-3738 first not sure if your talking to me or OP lol not sure what triggered you but.. lack of what features RT .. literally one game i own uses it i dont buy games for RT what else DLss 3 ...i just upgraded from a gtx1080 do you think i give a fk about that either. literally paid 400 more than than the 7 year old card i had for wayyy more performance and DON'T have any hotspots to boot (110) and have easily pushed my ref card to 2900-3100MHz and oc the vram with max PL .. thats if your comment was directed to me lol. im not a fanboy actually think for myself i decided to skip nvidia this time around you like what you like and have a good one and yes the boats floating quite well. read if you want not responding just a fyi my 2 cents
I would go for the 7900XT. It's a nice upgrade and you get 20 gigs of VRAM.
Right now the 7900 xt is better dollar per frame than the xtx too. I agree if you don't need the top of the top
Hey Daniel; I’m in the market for a new GPU (i game on 1440 usually but also have a high performance 1080 monitor as well) with a $400-$600 budgets for the GPU and I already have my new CPU picked out pretty much and will cost about $189-$249 depending on which cpu variant I go with, I have a 5700xt right now. Been looking at 6800 and 6800xt, not really looking into the new gen. My PSU is a plat certified Corsair 750w. I know that is pushing it with the 6800xt but wouldn’t be with the 6800. So I rather get the 6800xt but I’d also rather not have to get a new PSU and have to rewire and cable manage everything in my rig lol. I run a 3900x with 3600mhz c16 g skillz ram. Going to upgrade cpu as well which won’t cause any additional power draw, maybe even less if I get a 5700x instead of the 5800x, I would actually drop wattage considering the 3900x already can draw up to 105w just like all the new Ryzen 7s (besides the 5700x 65w). Sooo what should I do? 6800 or 6800xt with an undervolt. I’d imagine I’d still only be using 50-60% of the PSU which is ideal. If I’ll be bottled necked by my PSU I’ll prob just go with the 6800 non xt and overclock it, just will be missing some compute units. I need an opinion here brother. For 1440p gaming 6800 or 6800xt reminder I am working with a 750w plat psu which is the lowest requirement for the 6800xt. So maybe 6800xt with a slight undervolt? I’m trying to avoid having to upgrade my psu but still get better performance. Lol
A good 750PSU is more then enough for an 6800XT. Even a good 650PSU should be able to manage an 6800XT without any problem assuming your not overclocking and using 10 HD's. If a PSU can handle the 6800XT depends if the PSU can handle the spikes. Older psu have problems handling the spikes because the spikes can triggers the OCP. Corsair is a good brand although they also have more budget models like the CS series. any RM or RMx model 650w or higher should be ok.
Geez bro, you are on it, exactly what I needed. THANK YOU !
Not sure where you are getting that amazon pic or when, but I did a search just now, and most of the RX 6800 XT's are over 700 bucks. The only XFX RX 6800 XT core is 779 bucks. The XFX RX 6800 core is 599. So please update your pricing. At those prices it makes better sense to go with a 7900 xt for 899
Plot twist: AMD are actually owned by Nvidia. Their function is to make the exact same stupid mistakes nvidia make, in order to make Nvidia look sane.
Tbh it is funny how all of this ridiculous pricing makes the 4090 a good deal
Paid alot for my 6900xt last year. Will be using it for a very long time. Needs to be 100% more performance or more for me to upgrade.
I will tell you this my, personal upgrade rule is wait until the upgrade is at least 3x faster than your current GPU assuming you already have a mid-range or better gpu.
in September 2013 I went from from a HD Radeon 6770 I got off ebay for 40$ to a HD Radeon 7970 for 300$. It was exactly a 3x boost in performance and was the longest used GPU I ever had. It lasted so long in fact that by 5.5 years the card started to show signs of failing. But to use the GPU for 5.5 years and still be not just usable, but with exceptional performance was pretty amazing.
I was forced to buy a used RX580 4gb during the early 2019 crypto crash. While the RX580 still served me well, it was only a 50-60% boost in performance. it at least held me over until I upgraded my long-owned fx8350 platform,
I upgraded to a 6800XT in august 2021, and can run almost everything in 1440P max settings in 144fps with no FSR on. I'm hoping to get at least 5.5 years out of this gpu as well. Unless the industry throws some weird curve balls out and games start running more demanding than I feel this is a easily approachable metric.
@@pauls4522 I'm on a gtx 1070 that I've owned for about 6 years now, it's still runs games on high settings at 1080p. I'm just gunna wait a year or so more and when I upgrade monitors I'll upgrade gpu's. Maybe I'll upgrade to a 144hz 1440p monitor and get something to beast that with all the bells and whistles turned on in graphics settings. It surprises me that people upgrade every generation when you've got a lot of juice in your hardware, and at the time of purchase you can play every game released to that point if you get a mid range to high system
Even with the XTX's uplift from the 6800xt which I currently run it just isn't a game changer for performance... So expensive and you still have to make big compromises. :(
Went from a 3080 ti to a 7900 XTX and it was pretty game changing for me. I need a new monitor and my frames in Skyrim (ultra modded) and Cyberpunk have gone up dramatically. 4K performance difference in night and day, I have a CPU bottleneck at 1440 which is crazy considering I have a 5800x3d.
@superpulaski9767 oh that's good to read. :)
I'm currently looking to upgrade my GPU, with a budget of around $900, I've been looking at either the Gigabyte 4070 Ti Gaming OC and the ASRock 7900 XT Phantom OC. Seeing your benchmarks has got me leaning more towards the 7900 XT, I'm not a fan of AI generated frames being used to artificially inflate FPS, if it increases input latency, is it really an FPS increase?
Totally agree, I rather have raw power rather than fake ai stuff. Plus the vram limit in 4070ti will most likely be an issue in the future. Went with the 7900 xt as well
i have 4070ti, Frame generator doesnt impact image quality, and latency you wont even notice. For me this is a game changer. Witcher 3 on all ultra + rt ultra 3440x1440 without any DLSS or FG i have like 30-45fps, with only FG i get around 65-70, when I enable DLSS2 qualiy together with FG my FPS goes to around 90-100. So From 30-45fps i went to like 90-100 which is crazy. Cyberpunk 2077 all on ultra with RT psycho 3440x1440 raw fps 30-40 (My CPU is a bit bottlneck 5 5600x) when I turn on FG i get boost to like 60-75fps, when I enable DLSS2 Quality I get like 80-110fps.
Daniel, this is one of the best reviews that I have seen if not the best thanks alot your extensive info/summary & attention to detail you have easily earnt a sub. Just need help deciding an upgrade, So iI play extended 1440p (3440x1440) and wanted to upgrade my current card (rx 6800xt) to play RT games with Ultra setting comfortably, would you recommend getting the rx7900xt or jumping to Nvidea? It would be appreciated if you can help or anyone.
I think Nvidia are doing a good job with RT or content creation so I think you will get better P/P in Nvidia than AMD but i personally think the RX 7900XT is a good deal over all since it is better then 4070 ti by far without RT with RT its almost a tie with 4070 ti in the lead just by few frames per seconde more .
Great video, thank you... Just ordered the RX 7900 XT AsRock Phantom Gaming OC for a really great price ;)
Thank you for your video. I would like to ask your recommendation, I am playing AAA games at 1440p (monitor supports up to 144 mhz), what GPU would you recommend if I want to upgrade? I am using Ryzen 7 5800x3D and 6700XT. I am thinking of upgrading my GPU in Q1 or Q2 2023
Why would you want to upgrade now? Your system is good to go for at least a year or two. Right now prices are too high anyways.
Im wondering about upgrading from 6800XT to 7900XTX right now as it seems like the 5080 will just be too expensive for me to justify it..
I've had a 6800 XT for 3 months now, does great on both a 1440p/144Hz monitor and a 4k/60Hz TV.
I got the 6800xt a little over 6 months and love it. Had my trigger on the 7900 xtx but with such high prices and GPUs overheating problem I decided to hold off. If you OC the 6800xt, you can get closer results to the 7900 xt in performance.
The rtx 4090 Nvidia cards are dropping significantly I might just jump ship towards that card.
Side note, fortnite did an outstanding job after their last update. Those graphics are just amazing. Looking forward to the next generation games.
Yeah but if you overclock a 7900xt it will be miles ahead of the 6800xt again so doesn't mean very much....
@stu0508 25% is miles ahead? Lol you are a clown. The only thing the 7900xt is miles ahead on is price.
@Daniel Owen Can you please specify the average power consumption for the 7900xt in the tests? Thank you in advance.
The prices here are still ridiculuosly high for some GPUs, for example 6800XT was 885EUR so I got 7900XT for 900EUR, which was quite a bit worth, lol.
You guys can have the Ray tracing, I’ll take the frames
What about both?
@@johnboylan3832 if you're willing to pay the premium...go for it! I play various amounts of games, but nothing I enjoy actually uses ray tracing besides minecraft with shaders
@@johnboylan3832 I’m using 6950 XT Red Devil, not really capable of tracing rays but that not why I bought it
I was able to get a 6900xt core from xfx to replace my 3060 ti and I got it for $570 USD brand new. Was this a good deal?
yes
@@RonnieMcNutt666 What happened to your 3060 ti ? Thats a good card .
Great deal! would buy one any day for thay price!! Over here even the best deals are around 800$
Hell of a good deal
@@FATBOY_. 3060ti is nvidia best value gpu atm probably 300$ or less good deal
This current generation of GPUs are lackluster.. ruined by greed. I'm sticking with my 6800XT for a while. It's still a powerful card.
man my red devil 6700 xt is still super fast for a balanced 1440p experience, best mid-high end gpu for value and performance
I sold my 6900 XT for $700 and upgraded to the XTX Merc for my 4K120 OLED. Couldn't be happier with the performance of the AIB model.
Just got my 7900 XT, right below MSRP. $879 XFX Speedster black model
The huge price-increase-to-low-performace gain was not worth it IMO for the XTX model.
This completes my gaming build, specifically for MSFS 2020 (flight sim). This is my first personal Windows-based machine in 20 years. Hence, I DO NOT have an AIB. For me, paying $879 was something I really did not have a choice on. Whether it is bad value or not, I required the graphics power for MSFS as the previous generation AIBs were having such a hard time running it at higher settings, this included Nvidia's 3090.
I will also disclose that I will not be using this for productivity, i.e. photo and video editing, I have been using, and will continue to use Mac for that.
If I didn't need the extra power for MSFS, I would actually buy a 6950 XT. A XFX Speedster version is $730.
Its funny that when the 6800xt first came out, reviewers were saying the $650 MSRP for the 6800xt was not exciting enough. After the GPU shortage, they seemed to all change their minds on that initial conclusion. That's sad. It seems the shortage has lowered our expectations on value-for-money quite significantly.
Just a heads up to the viewers the numbers don't scale linearly. So if it's 100%(68XT), 130%(79XT), and 150%(79XTX) that's not to say the 79XTX is 20% better than the 79XT. Look at 1:15 for example. If you divide the bigger FPS by the smaller you get the percentage. So looking at the averages; 68/45 = 51.1% but 68/60 = 13.3%. So the 79XTX is actually only 13.3% better than the 79XT. Not 20% as you may initially think looking at the given percentages. Current prices show the 79XT at 900 and the 79XTX at 1200. 33% more cost for 13% more performance...
This is just me justifying my recent 79XT purchase. =)
If Im upgrading from a gtx 1080, which card is the best value for 4k high settings? Im currently playing on 1080p monitor but ive just purchased an lg c2 oled tv to play my pc on 4k and using the 1080p monitor as a secondary unit. My gtx 1080 cant handle 4k high settings for the games i play. Mostly AAA games, elden ring, witcher 3 etc. Your thoughts are appreciated
If you’re ok with the perf you’re getting from the 6800 xt it’s much better value. The thing is that it’s not gonna push 60fps on 4k max settings in future games(most current games it can). If you’re looking for better perf than that then you’re out of luck because the 7000 series and rtx 4000 offer poor value. So if you want such a high perf card I’d rather wait a bit until their insane price goes down.
@@azsampako2266 thanks for your input. Id be looking into used 4080 when 4090ti came out i guess lol.
If you turned off FPS and metrics, I don't think most people would be able to pick which GPU is which.
Nice Bench. Not having the gpu powerr draw on the new cards is annoying.
Good video to watch, I just got myself a new 6800xt from Newegg 470 usd (also came with The Last of Us) excited to move from a 2060 to this beast
I was able to pick up an Asrock Taichi 6800XT on Newegg for $480 when Zip Pay was doing an 11% off offer at the end of November. Just today I got an email from Capital One Shopping stating my $144.00 gift card from that purchase was ready! So yes, I got a top of the line 6800XT for $336.00!
The card is amazing to me considering I came from an RX570 4GB. I've been playing FC6 at 1440p with texture pack and all graphics options set as high as they can go. Smooth as silk all the way through and so far after dozens of hours of gameplay not a single crash.
I would add tha AMD themselves said that these GPUs are cheaper to produce than the 6000 series due to the chiplet design.
Yeah they get to put more money in their pockets
I got the 7900xt for 700 brand new on Amazon and I’m excited
Any help on deciding on a graphics card would be greatly appreciated. Im building a PC I have a Ryzen 7 5700x, b550 mobo I will be studying Unreal Engine 5, starting out as a newbie, what level graphics card would suffice? Ive been recommended a 3070ti but the lower vram in comparison to other cards puts me off.
Hey princess, can you do a vlog on how much it cost AMD to manufacture the 5700XT, 6700XT, 6800XT, 6900XT and 7900XT/X?.
Great content, subbed
Im building my first PC ever. I was thinking of going for 6800XT instead of 3080 for the way they are priced. But im also confused whether I should increase my budget to go for something better as 6800XT is a 2 year old card. So, should I go for 6800XT or increase my budget or go for 3080Ti as some people tell me Nvidia cards are more reliable overall?
If you are aiming for 4K i say get an AMD card, games these days are eating VRAM for breakfast and 12GB is kinda on the limit for 4K gaming.
@@marcelosoares7148 for 4k 16gb VRAM and above, for 1440p and lower 12gb on 4070ti will be ok for next 2-3 years maybe 4.
the consistency in percentages tell me that driver improvement won't "fix" the 7000 series beating the 4080 or reaching 4090 performance
Got a Rx 6800 non xt for 400 euro seems like a bargain to me after the new 4070 price lol
Im about to build my PC and buy a graphics card a few months or a year later (best I could afford would be 6700xt or 6800xt)
What would be the best dirt cheap gpu up to 100$
I don’t remember what channel it was, maybe LTT or Gamer Nexus, that explained how poor value budget GPUs are. You’re much better off saving money for a better one.
Edit: I’m not referring to 6700 and 6800 as budget cards
@@dumbodum I see a lot of used RX 580 for 80$
I just bought the 13700k, a new Board, and a 7900xt. I'm only getting 285 at the end of the bench mark on balanced 1080p. You were getting 355. What do you think is the issue?
I guess the average was 325. I also see you have 6000 mhz ram which would account for at least some of the delta since I'm using ddr4 3600.
A: I love my 6800xt.
B: great video!
C: “cool system bro, but can it play Fortnite?”! 😂
While I agree with you, it's easy to say this for ALL the new gen cards. Even the 4090 which everyone seems to think is priced well for it's performance at $1600.
nobody think that
Hi Daniel, when you're able to do performance tests on the 4070Ti, would you also include the GPU power draw please. Thank you!
What's a good graphics card for open world games like skyrim or elden ring?
3060 ti would be excellent at 1080p or 1440p. Nvidia typically does well with just about everything and AMD can have troubles with some older titles.
However there are people that say they run 4k skyrim with tons of mods and 4k textures at a solid 60 fps with zero issues...so maybe it also has to do with how willing you are to tune your GPU and make sure your temperatures are as good as can be so-long as you set a good fan curve, undervolting and general air flow in the case.
If you see yourself not wanting to mess with settings at all...just get a 3060ti or 3070 and be done with it.
If you're willing to take a risk and possibly go through a little back and forth at worst...find a reputable seller of a 3080 on ebay and get it for 450-550 or so (make sure it's in working order)
If you're willing to tinker around a good bit until you finally find the sweet spot for your setup...get a 6800 xt new!
@@ofon2000 thanks this was very helpful. 🥰