It's worth mentioning the gems setup as well: You want the buff extension gem on both Noah and whoever is applying Glittering Melody. Noah should also have the gem that gives him aggro at the start of each battle, since he is the first one with invincibility it reduces the chances that your party members die before getting invincibility since the enemy will be too focused on trying to smack an invincible Noah. Helps out with the initial setup by a lot.
I found an even better setup is to just put shield belts or brute memories (or both) on your two healers and go full damage build on everyone else. people will die at the beginning, but your noah and healers won't and that's really all that matters. I did swordfighter for noah, had a signifer and troubadour as my two healers, ashera as my hero (she won't get aggro with four attackers) and everyone else as an attacker soulhacker since underworld rage lets them benefit from the KOs at the beginning. Noah doesn't even need art recharge skills or accessories with this setup, you can build every attacker purely for damage.
Many people probably know this, but it's still something interesting that I discovered: The buffs on Lucky Seven work differently depending on what role you're playing as Noah (DPS/Tank/Heals). Examples: For DPS: Power Riser is a AOE BUFF. For Tank: Power Riser is an AOE Temporary Invincibility Buff. For Healer: Power Riser is a* Field Regen.
Honestly the moment they announced there'd be a class system _along with the gem system_ I knew someone was going to find the most broken combination, it was only a matter of time. Other games with class systems like Bravely Default and Final Fantasy V both have this issue, but finding ways to break these systems is kind of a game in itself!
It's not really an issue if it's fun, system setup in games with this many options is part of the game in itself, it's like a puzzle, setting up all these interworking parts to your advantage. I played for 130 hours before beating the main story and never figured this out, so it's not like it's gonna harm the presentation of the narrative.
I wouldn't call finding broken combinations in games with cross-classing an "issue" at all. That's kinda... the point of having one? Of course, this video showcases an unintended exploit, which obviously shouldn't be possible. But finding busted class combinations in f.e. Bravely Default is like 70% of the fun in the game.
@@skeletonwar4445 tbh the only part of this that *shouldn’t* be possible is keeping buffs when the party leader disengages. But you can still do this without leaving and re-entering battle. If an invincible Noah interlinks he will pass invincibility to Mio, who can then pass it along to the rest of the party if she’s a signifer. So… yeah that’s entirely legit use of the game mechanics and it’s entirely, utterly, absolutely broken lol
@@WhitePaintbrush Yeah but let's be real here: Passing invincibility and then freezing it is definitely a byproduct, not an intended interaction. So it's still an exploit.
Indeed. While I do personally half-hope that this particular oversigt gets patched out, this strategy demonstrates that this game's build customization is far more than just "pick the best equipment". It's complex enough to allow emergent behavior.
i think is intended-ish, the defender version on unlimited sword grants party wide invincibility anyway, ofc it does a lot less damage, but it's party wide from the start, altough having a defender in this case isn't really optimal
i remember seeing the buff pause effect on the talent art and immediately thinking about noah’s invincibility. didn’t think about passing it to the whole party or abusing no defenders though lmao
Super Super important note that may make this way easier to pull off, Put Noah in a Tank Class (I like Lone Exile as you can build up the Talent Art VERY quickly), His Buff art grants AOE invincibility instead while he's in a Tank class, so you can much more easily get Invincibility on your Signifiers so they can chain pass it over and over again.
You actually don't need to sheathe your weapon for this to work. In this case, make Mio the Signifer with Glittering Melody talent Art and Capable Hands skill. Noah still has Unlimited Sword and Capable Hands as well. Start the battle with Noah, use talent Art, switch to Mio, use talent Art, activate Mio Ouroboros, cancel Ouroboros, use Resonant Flag. Maintaining the Invincibility for the entire fight is done easiest by continuing to use Signifer Mio, at least based on my experience. The fact you don't actually have to sheathe your weapon makes me think this isn't a glitch or oversight though lol
‘Monolithsoft didn’t intend this’ They allow you to go against Level 200 Boses. I’d be surprised if they hadn’t made a setup to make you immune from everything honestly.
@@aya8475 Yep. You could make insane solo setups that allowed Cross to melt absolutely everything with insane damage AND ghost walker invulnerability. Man, the setups in X were actually insane.
@@sleep5329 if you’re having trouble you can just make a rudimentary Ether Blossom Dance build and learning the barebones basics of overdrive, all you really need is maxed duelist or FMJ, Maxed Mastermind i believe for core crusher, Nagi’s Longsword arts and some potential up armor and auguments, all the equipment can be found in the shop in NLA, though you generally want to use an Ether longsword specifically to benefit from core crusher
Maxed FMJ is mostly for access to dual guns to use Ghostwalker, Zero Zero (Celica i believe her name was, basically the alien chick with the big guy’s dual gun art), primer and combat limbo
Apparently, the Flash Fencer Ascension Quest is obtained quite late, so this can't exactly be done until endgame. Unfortunate, but it does mean you can't cheese most of the game.
You can still cheese basically all of NG+, but... at that point, is it really "cheese" if everything dies before you can even finish setting it up unless you intentionally delevel yourself?
It never got patched. There's a soul voice to grant invincibility, so simply respond to it with combat limbo and reuse combat limbo every 30 seconds or so, and you stay invincible.
Ghost factory and ghost walker in xenoblade x were op, and they never got patched, there was also an ability that killed instantly a controlled creature, I used it for power leveling me to lvl 60
@@aya8475 Ha yes Brain Jack/Servant Sacrifice, used in speedruns with Irina and a proper soul voice setup, usually i don't do it when i replay X as it kinda kills the enjoyment from early fights.
@@aya8475 if it was just ghost walker, then it wouldn't have been such a big deal - as it was only i-frames + dodge the next 6 hits, what made it crazy was the insane damage output you could combine it with.
Finally got Unlimited Sword in my game, saw it gave 'Invincibility' and remembered this video. So here I am. This whole setup is silly. Even sillier than level 1 Reyn taking advantage of level XII arts to solo topple-lock superbosses. (After Shulk Breaks them anyway.)
Huge thanks for the specific warning. Still moseying my way through chapter 4 (at like level 52 at the moment though from all my backtracking and sidetracking)
You can just put Noah on a tank class as the Unlimited Sword arts change to Tank arts and it will hold all aggro and apply invincibility to all allies near him then just have 1 signifier for buffs and everyone else on attackers
Ah, thanks for the spoiler warning, this game is so fun, but I have little free time. Will be sure to check this out when I eventually get to chapter 6. Thanks as always for the information Enel
Hey Enel will you be doing any guides regarding Things you should do before New Game+ in Xenoblade 3 or how to farm Gold Coins aswell these XC3 guides are extremely helpful by the way.
Me, playing chapter 3 and sometimes getting my party's ass kicked: *clicks on helpful invincibility video* Enel: BIG SPOILER WARNING IF YOU'RE NOT UP TO CHAPTER 6 Me: *backs out of video Homer-Simpson-in-the-bushes style* (Thanks for the warning Enel! I will be sure to come back and watch the video properly later when I'm further along in the main story.)
Well thanks for the spoiler warning Enel I’m still traveling throughout the desert getting everything unlocked keep up the vids enel gonna have to watch this once I finish
I did the same thing, and finally got to chapter 6… 73 hours in… and I didn’t even do everything in the zone right before chapter 6 (did all the quests but didn’t explore everything cause it was taking so long. My maps for every other zone are almost 100% though. Spending so much time walking into all the corners to show the whole thing lol)
@@arkyflame1599 it does have a couple cool islands though. I finally found a cave that looks different from all the others ive come across and a straight up xbc2 location. Best locales easily.
I don't think I even stepped foot into the desert until Chap. 7 because I was focused on getting through the main story, and I only went there to see if there were any strong enemies to grind. I'm saving most of my sidequest and exploration escapades for the New Game Plus, which I finally get to do now.
Just finished chapter 6, cried for a total of like 30 minutes through all of that stuff which was fun, and am probably gonna finish the game tonight so I'll be able to get caught up on all these videos😂. I definitely think this is probably the best of the series consistently, but I still prefer a lot of what 2 had more. 1 had the highest highs but felt kinda meh outside of those moments, 2 had some problems but the characters and the world especially captivated me (plus combat was rad) and is my favorite of the 3, 3 I think has been the most consistently awesome ignoring the dumb limitations in the early game (seriously, just let me explore the area on my own first) but the world and characters (Though great as well) just don't quite reach what 2 offered me. Still this journey's been beautiful so far and im hoping this final stretch is an amazing closer. Already wish i could experience it all for the first time again😂.
i only recently discovered this but id like to add that if noah is a seraph he can get awakening before using unlimited sword, then go into ouroboros form with mio, cancel it, have mio use resonant flag to pass it to everyone as well as the invincibility
Wow, I figured this was going to be a general defender combat guide or the like. I did not expect literal invincibility. This is just as funny as Noah dooming hoards of enemies at once.
So this is reliant on having level 20 Flash Fencer & level 20 Troubadour, with level 20 Signifer making things easier. Wish I could find their quests, haha.
This is insane dude, hell yeah. I really hope it doesn't get patched out- first of all it's funny as hell, but it also takes until like halfway through chapter 6 to be able to do it, and is really specific to set up. Plus, it does take skill and timing to keep it up, so it doesn't completely break the game since you're still having to pay attention, if anything it's more like a meta strategy than a real applicable way to play the main story content, so there's no real reason to remove this exploit since it's a single player game.
I was so surprised once I got to this chapter, I didn't expect them to straight up give Noah the "Invincible" buff, I thought it was gonna be i-frames, but nope. Either way, while ridiculous, it does not seem optimal. Staying alive isn't too hard in XB3, especially because of Ouroboros and this does eat quite a bit of your damage output.
Worth noting, Noah can do this without needing Resonate Flag since, as a Defender, one of Unlimited Sword's Arts is an AoE Party-Wide Invincibility buff to those near him if he uses said Art meaning that the only downside is taking longer to recharge his Talent Art once Unlimited Sword's duration expires (Attackers can recharge faster depending on the class such as Flash Fencer, Martial Artist and Full Metal Jaguar). Fast Recharge + Defender Unlimited Sword + 1+ Signifier(s) = Let's keep everyone invincible until the Devs find a way to allow bosses to ignore Invincibility or prevent it from having its duration being extended. This works best if Noah is a Lone Exile due to the much faster auto-attack rate and being focused on offense/evasion rather than survival/tanking all while having the skills and arts needed.
I dont think anyone loves XC series as much as Enel. You are so knowledgeable. Will you ever do a live speed run at SDQQ or AQDQ etc? would love to be there for that! You explain things so well.
Haha I was waiting for this video! Time to see what Diskbomb-Ghostwalker-Poppi QTπ tier strategies we can pull this time around... Or so I'd say once I finish the story. 60 hrs. and I'm still only on Chapter 4. This game is absolutely massive.
I did think about Eunie's Ouroboros form to pause the buff timers, but permanent invincibility is nuts. I probably won't try this out except if I want to laugh my head off, but it will still make for great videos.
Yeah when I got the class I thought: this class is either extremely broken or completely useless Then I used it in a story fight and thought damn this was easssssy and knew the answer
I completely forgot about miyori's talent art! ...also, side note apparently while in the ouroborus state, since you don't take actual damage, I think you can effectively grind to lv 99 as early as the fornis region using _just_ mio's
spoilers: when noah is on a defense class his lucky 7 agnus art on the x button gives the whole party invincibility which makes this setup much easier to pull off.
I want to discover the battle mechanics for myself as that's part of the joy in games, but here's a view for support bc your content is sublime, Mr. Math Man Enel, sir! Will go back to this when all battle mechanics have been made available. Looking forward to more analyses!
I'm so happy Signifer is busted. Purely because I've always been a fan of characters with spears/javelins/lances. And there's finally a game where it's broken! 🤣
If this gets patched, the route I'd expect them to take is to just keep the Lucky Seven timer running when you disengage. It seems the only reason the exploit exists is because they didn't consider the ramifications of immediately putting the Lucky Seven away, or perhaps didn't even realize you could.
Thanks you for the warning - I’m 36 hours in and only on Chapter 4….who would have thought the tutorial stage of XC3 would be longer than…almost every game on earth…jk…but damn.
Before watching let me guess, is it using the temporary invincibility from unlimited sword being transferred using signifier, then using other signifiers to keep looping it (like Ouroboros). Although I know the unlimited sword kit changes with class type and don’t know if the healer version has the invincibility. Or are we just going to madly use the random buffs of the attacker mode with signifiers to have all the buffs on everyone.
"If you are not past the opening part of chapter six-" Instantly stopped watching. Thank you very much for the spoiler warning, Enel. I'll continue on playing and watch this later. :D
Invincible pausing gives me Topple/Daze locking vibes. In the sense that both make the toughest superboss of each respective game your personal plaything
So I did this EXACTLY and it doesn't work. Mio doesn't charge her Glittering Melody fast enough to keep the loop going. I have exactly the same everything for Noah and Mio and it's just not working at all. I can start it but it won't stay on. *EDIT*: Never mind! Thanks to Enel here, I was missing the proper gems. I grinded them out and now it's working perfectly!
Enel: I highly advise that if you are not past atleast the first half of chapter 6 leave the video now. Me, who has yet to start playing: Aight, I'mma head out.
The spoiler free version is that later in the game you gain access to a invincibility buff, using signifier you can use an exploit to make your whole party permanently have that buff
dunno if this makes the setup easier but I just found out noah's dpad up art with lucky seven grants an aoe invincibility if his main class is a tank (or at least lone exile, which's the one I was using when I found this)
Well, I think this secures it. Signifer is the silliest class/blade in any Xenoblade game. There might have been some debate before, but now it's pretty cut and dry.
@@aya8475 I miss overdrive so much chain attacks are so slow and drawn-out compared to the rush I get spamming the ever-living hell out of arts in overdrive lol
I have a question: Im not sure if its because Im low level and its supposed to be like this(lvl 22) but Im playing in hard and I really feel like my healers heal next to nothing compared to what Im hit for in dmg. Its so bad that my only reliable tanks for named bosses has to be zephyr class to dodge, because I certainly dont have enough block or defense to make the defender any worth it except tanking 3 hits before I revive whoever is zephyr. Am I doing something wrong or is it really like this in hard mode? Any tips on how I can heal better? Edit: after a few more hours being unsuccessful, I just have to ask? Is there a way you found where I can tweak my allies AI? Its like working with morons. I throw a buff ring and for some reason they keep attacking while getting out of it, try to heal them and they actively start moving around, im at a freaking loss. How did they make such a bad AI!?Theres gotta be a way to tweak it that I dont know of.....
Pray to whatever God you believe in for an AI patch, this is a problem in Normal too. You'll put down an evasion ring and Lanz and Mio will go back to Colony 9 and start attacking from there to make 100% sure they aren't getting buffed.
@@darkmoone6659 LOL well at least it makes me feel better I'm not the only one. I was starting to think that I missed an obvious option somewhere. I was just in disbelief. When an enemy jumps to do an aoe attack, they don't move a freaking inch. But as soon as I put down a buff ring, they start bobbing and weaving around the ring like mad!!!
Hardmode feels *ridiculous* in comparison to Normal mode. I genuinely fought some bosses for over an hour or more because of how durable they are and how many times they made me wipe getting through them. Unless you're really dead set on it, hardmode is probably *not* the intended way to play this game LOL
Hard mode is more for when you beat the game and have the best setups, i also played in hard mode from start to finish and it honestly takes alot of time playing on normal or easy would of saved me alot of time however if you play on hard from start to finish the game does last you longer it took me 140hours to beat it.
Anyone knows if this still works? I'm trying to do this strategy for my gem farming but I can't seem to make it work. I can give the buff to my team once but even with multiple signifiers in the team I can't seem to have 100% up time and it inevitably drops after the 1rst or second share
I hope they don't patch this out. Haven't tried it yet, but it looks like stupid fun, which is everything these games should aim to be. Plus, it's a single player game so these kinds of cheese strats don't affect anyone. I probably won't find myself using this too much since I'm a sucker for Unlimited Sword and I like to actually usw Lucky 7 (it fuels my inner weeb, what can I say?), but this might be great to mess around with every so often
Hey! Nice guide! I used it a lot when challenging Seraphinia up until level 200. I’m just wondering if there is any issue when facing Kilocorn. I used the exact same strategy and setup as against Seraphinia, but for some reason, when Noah sheathes his blade, he loses all the buffs. I’m just confused at this point
So what happen when you chain attack? The buffs stay? What after you finish the chain attack? In any case, is it safe to do chain attacks in this strat? Cause then that would make killing the bosses faster.
buff timers run during chain attack when animations are playing. in that time, the pause buffs effect (also referred to as stasis by Enel since that's what the buff was called in X) will run out, causing the invincible buff to run out
@@zanderswift6009 Thanks a lot! So i guess the best way would be to have 2 signifers, 4 DPS and Ashera (probably with no damage boost accesories so she dosnt draw aggro) then do enough damage safely with this strat untill you can Chain Attack on a Launch and do the regular strat to finish the fight. Gonna try this later, thanks!
It's worth mentioning the gems setup as well:
You want the buff extension gem on both Noah and whoever is applying Glittering Melody. Noah should also have the gem that gives him aggro at the start of each battle, since he is the first one with invincibility it reduces the chances that your party members die before getting invincibility since the enemy will be too focused on trying to smack an invincible Noah. Helps out with the initial setup by a lot.
I found an even better setup is to just put shield belts or brute memories (or both) on your two healers and go full damage build on everyone else. people will die at the beginning, but your noah and healers won't and that's really all that matters. I did swordfighter for noah, had a signifer and troubadour as my two healers, ashera as my hero (she won't get aggro with four attackers) and everyone else as an attacker soulhacker since underworld rage lets them benefit from the KOs at the beginning. Noah doesn't even need art recharge skills or accessories with this setup, you can build every attacker purely for damage.
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I like that we went from some basic guides and superboss locations to literally fighting the hardest superboss at level 1
It’s a Xenoblade Game. This is the standard progression of things.
@@mrbubbles6468Kind of true... 😂
Many people probably know this, but it's still something interesting that I discovered:
The buffs on Lucky Seven work differently depending on what role you're playing as Noah (DPS/Tank/Heals).
Examples:
For DPS: Power Riser is a AOE BUFF.
For Tank: Power Riser is an AOE Temporary Invincibility Buff.
For Healer: Power Riser is a* Field Regen.
Wow, thank you so much! I was wondering why invincibility would sometimes disappear
Honestly the moment they announced there'd be a class system _along with the gem system_ I knew someone was going to find the most broken combination, it was only a matter of time. Other games with class systems like Bravely Default and Final Fantasy V both have this issue, but finding ways to break these systems is kind of a game in itself!
It's not really an issue if it's fun, system setup in games with this many options is part of the game in itself, it's like a puzzle, setting up all these interworking parts to your advantage. I played for 130 hours before beating the main story and never figured this out, so it's not like it's gonna harm the presentation of the narrative.
I wouldn't call finding broken combinations in games with cross-classing an "issue" at all.
That's kinda... the point of having one?
Of course, this video showcases an unintended exploit, which obviously shouldn't be possible.
But finding busted class combinations in f.e. Bravely Default is like 70% of the fun in the game.
That’s exactly what I’m saying lol
@@skeletonwar4445 tbh the only part of this that *shouldn’t* be possible is keeping buffs when the party leader disengages. But you can still do this without leaving and re-entering battle. If an invincible Noah interlinks he will pass invincibility to Mio, who can then pass it along to the rest of the party if she’s a signifer.
So… yeah that’s entirely legit use of the game mechanics and it’s entirely, utterly, absolutely broken lol
@@WhitePaintbrush Yeah but let's be real here: Passing invincibility and then freezing it is definitely a byproduct, not an intended interaction.
So it's still an exploit.
Ah man, Enel already figured out my strat to go big dps with having no tanks, a lot of healers, and the 40% recharge when red aggro lines.
Intended or not, this is insane. I love this. This is the kind of thing that makes a battle system fun to me
Indeed. While I do personally half-hope that this particular oversigt gets patched out, this strategy demonstrates that this game's build customization is far more than just "pick the best equipment". It's complex enough to allow emergent behavior.
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@@tecanec9729 I'd prefer they just keep the build in, but any records set using it don't count.
i think is intended-ish, the defender version on unlimited sword grants party wide invincibility anyway, ofc it does a lot less damage, but it's party wide from the start, altough having a defender in this case isn't really optimal
i remember seeing the buff pause effect on the talent art and immediately thinking about noah’s invincibility. didn’t think about passing it to the whole party or abusing no defenders though lmao
Super Super important note that may make this way easier to pull off, Put Noah in a Tank Class (I like Lone Exile as you can build up the Talent Art VERY quickly), His Buff art grants AOE invincibility instead while he's in a Tank class, so you can much more easily get Invincibility on your Signifiers so they can chain pass it over and over again.
what would be the best setup for lone exile then?
the talent art is available since the start thanks to capable hands
You know what capable hands do right?
You actually don't need to sheathe your weapon for this to work. In this case, make Mio the Signifer with Glittering Melody talent Art and Capable Hands skill. Noah still has Unlimited Sword and Capable Hands as well. Start the battle with Noah, use talent Art, switch to Mio, use talent Art, activate Mio Ouroboros, cancel Ouroboros, use Resonant Flag. Maintaining the Invincibility for the entire fight is done easiest by continuing to use Signifer Mio, at least based on my experience. The fact you don't actually have to sheathe your weapon makes me think this isn't a glitch or oversight though lol
You WOT
‘Monolithsoft didn’t intend this’
They allow you to go against Level 200 Boses. I’d be surprised if they hadn’t made a setup to make you immune from everything honestly.
I still don't think this was the intention lmao
I mean, we have Ghost Factory and Ghost walker in xenoblade X, and that was even more crazy than this, you could solo super bosses with that only
@@aya8475 Yep. You could make insane solo setups that allowed Cross to melt absolutely everything with insane damage AND ghost walker invulnerability.
Man, the setups in X were actually insane.
@@envytee9659 breaking X was so much fun though.
Yeah this is xenoblade this was definitely intended
I shudder to think that our beloved Xeno games could have exploitable combat mechanics that make endgame easy!
Yeah I remember when Xenoblade X was around and you couldn't just be invincible throughout an entire fight!
@@darkmoone6659 that game brought me immeasurable pain. Still can’t beat the final boss
@@sleep5329 if you’re having trouble you can just make a rudimentary Ether Blossom Dance build and learning the barebones basics of overdrive, all you really need is maxed duelist or FMJ, Maxed Mastermind i believe for core crusher, Nagi’s Longsword arts and some potential up armor and auguments, all the equipment can be found in the shop in NLA, though you generally want to use an Ether longsword specifically to benefit from core crusher
Maxed FMJ is mostly for access to dual guns to use Ghostwalker, Zero Zero (Celica i believe her name was, basically the alien chick with the big guy’s dual gun art), primer and combat limbo
Apparently, the Flash Fencer Ascension Quest is obtained quite late, so this can't exactly be done until endgame. Unfortunate, but it does mean you can't cheese most of the game.
You can still cheese basically all of NG+, but... at that point, is it really "cheese" if everything dies before you can even finish setting it up unless you intentionally delevel yourself?
Even at rank 10 is still 80% filled so1 or 2 arts will fill it up in less than 10 seconds
@@locoludwin3228The problem is that the skill you need to share is the one that's unlocked at level 15, not level 5. You need the Ascension for that.
The moment when Enel becomes better at the game than MonolithSoft themselves
I remember that the Dual Gun art that give stasis could make you permanently invincible in the very early patches of xenoblade x.
It never got patched. There's a soul voice to grant invincibility, so simply respond to it with combat limbo and reuse combat limbo every 30 seconds or so, and you stay invincible.
@@Lawaleeth Thanks ! i'm replaying X currently so i'll try to do it myself.
Ghost factory and ghost walker in xenoblade x were op, and they never got patched, there was also an ability that killed instantly a controlled creature, I used it for power leveling me to lvl 60
@@aya8475 Ha yes Brain Jack/Servant Sacrifice, used in speedruns with Irina and a proper soul voice setup, usually i don't do it when i replay X as it kinda kills the enjoyment from early fights.
@@aya8475 if it was just ghost walker, then it wouldn't have been such a big deal - as it was only i-frames + dodge the next 6 hits, what made it crazy was the insane damage output you could combine it with.
Finally got Unlimited Sword in my game, saw it gave 'Invincibility' and remembered this video. So here I am.
This whole setup is silly.
Even sillier than level 1 Reyn taking advantage of level XII arts to solo topple-lock superbosses. (After Shulk Breaks them anyway.)
Noah's invincibility + Signifier. Me: Yup. I see where this is going
Thank you for being honest and warning us of possible spoilers. I'll play a little more and come back later.
Huge thanks for the specific warning. Still moseying my way through chapter 4 (at like level 52 at the moment though from all my backtracking and sidetracking)
You can just put Noah on a tank class as the Unlimited Sword arts change to Tank arts and it will hold all aggro and apply invincibility to all allies near him then just have 1 signifier for buffs and everyone else on attackers
what did i say the man found the optimal combo 5 days after launch. your detication to this is crazy and i thank you for this broken setup
Ah, thanks for the spoiler warning, this game is so fun, but I have little free time. Will be sure to check this out when I eventually get to chapter 6. Thanks as always for the information Enel
Here after the 2.2 update (the Noah & Mio Amiibo update, and likely the final update the game will have), and it still hasn't been patched
Hey Enel will you be doing any
guides regarding Things you should do before New Game+
in Xenoblade 3 or how to farm
Gold Coins aswell these XC3 guides are extremely helpful by the way.
Me, playing chapter 3 and sometimes getting my party's ass kicked: *clicks on helpful invincibility video*
Enel: BIG SPOILER WARNING IF YOU'RE NOT UP TO CHAPTER 6
Me: *backs out of video Homer-Simpson-in-the-bushes style*
(Thanks for the warning Enel! I will be sure to come back and watch the video properly later when I'm further along in the main story.)
Me: "Oh look, a new Enel Xenoblade video!"
Enel: "BIG SPOILER WARNING"
Me: "Understandable, have a nice day."
Thanks for being transparent!
It’s a good thing I literally just finished the opening of chapter 6
Thanks for the warning, I'll be sure to check this out after chapter 6.
Does this work I challenge mode?
Well thanks for the spoiler warning Enel I’m still traveling throughout the desert getting everything unlocked keep up the vids enel gonna have to watch this once I finish
I did the same thing, and finally got to chapter 6… 73 hours in… and I didn’t even do everything in the zone right before chapter 6 (did all the quests but didn’t explore everything cause it was taking so long. My maps for every other zone are almost 100% though. Spending so much time walking into all the corners to show the whole thing lol)
@@ThatFoxGirl OMG, I though I was the only one obsessed with 100%ing the maps. Erythia sea was a nightmare for me to do though.
I’m 40 hours on chapter three this is gonna be a wild ride haha
@@arkyflame1599 it does have a couple cool islands though. I finally found a cave that looks different from all the others ive come across and a straight up xbc2 location. Best locales easily.
I don't think I even stepped foot into the desert until Chap. 7 because I was focused on getting through the main story, and I only went there to see if there were any strong enemies to grind.
I'm saving most of my sidequest and exploration escapades for the New Game Plus, which I finally get to do now.
I feel like incurser would be great in this since you'll never die you'll never lose the damage buffing
Sena: Con...science
Enel: signa... fur and crux
Taion: you've never heard that word aloud have you?
Just finished chapter 6, cried for a total of like 30 minutes through all of that stuff which was fun, and am probably gonna finish the game tonight so I'll be able to get caught up on all these videos😂.
I definitely think this is probably the best of the series consistently, but I still prefer a lot of what 2 had more. 1 had the highest highs but felt kinda meh outside of those moments, 2 had some problems but the characters and the world especially captivated me (plus combat was rad) and is my favorite of the 3, 3 I think has been the most consistently awesome ignoring the dumb limitations in the early game (seriously, just let me explore the area on my own first) but the world and characters (Though great as well) just don't quite reach what 2 offered me. Still this journey's been beautiful so far and im hoping this final stretch is an amazing closer. Already wish i could experience it all for the first time again😂.
I agree with all you said!
Suppose the way to patch this out would just be to not count invincibility as a buff
Or remove buffs upon sheathing the weapon
i only recently discovered this but id like to add that if noah is a seraph he can get awakening before using unlimited sword, then go into ouroboros form with mio, cancel it, have mio use resonant flag to pass it to everyone as well as the invincibility
Wow, I figured this was going to be a general defender combat guide or the like. I did not expect literal invincibility. This is just as funny as Noah dooming hoards of enemies at once.
So this is reliant on having level 20 Flash Fencer & level 20 Troubadour, with level 20 Signifer making things easier. Wish I could find their quests, haha.
This is pretty sick I felt like some shit was gonna go down after reading unlimited sword
This is insane dude, hell yeah. I really hope it doesn't get patched out- first of all it's funny as hell, but it also takes until like halfway through chapter 6 to be able to do it, and is really specific to set up. Plus, it does take skill and timing to keep it up, so it doesn't completely break the game since you're still having to pay attention, if anything it's more like a meta strategy than a real applicable way to play the main story content, so there's no real reason to remove this exploit since it's a single player game.
I don’t see it getting patched out since it’s not a glitch unlike skips
I'll be back soon. So glad to have this game while i recover from my surgery
I was so surprised once I got to this chapter, I didn't expect them to straight up give Noah the "Invincible" buff, I thought it was gonna be i-frames, but nope.
Either way, while ridiculous, it does not seem optimal. Staying alive isn't too hard in XB3, especially because of Ouroboros and this does eat quite a bit of your damage output.
Just bring 5 DPS and 2 healers (One having Glittering Melody of course preferably the Signifer)
I’m glad it’s not optimal because it’d kind of ruin the game, it’s very funny though and I’m glad we have it
Noah is on his 8th term, and Nintendo has confirmed he is 18.
Alexandria is on her 6th term.
Zamn
Worth noting, Noah can do this without needing Resonate Flag since, as a Defender, one of Unlimited Sword's Arts is an AoE Party-Wide Invincibility buff to those near him if he uses said Art meaning that the only downside is taking longer to recharge his Talent Art once Unlimited Sword's duration expires (Attackers can recharge faster depending on the class such as Flash Fencer, Martial Artist and Full Metal Jaguar). Fast Recharge + Defender Unlimited Sword + 1+ Signifier(s) = Let's keep everyone invincible until the Devs find a way to allow bosses to ignore Invincibility or prevent it from having its duration being extended. This works best if Noah is a Lone Exile due to the much faster auto-attack rate and being focused on offense/evasion rather than survival/tanking all while having the skills and arts needed.
I dont think anyone loves XC series as much as Enel. You are so knowledgeable. Will you ever do a live speed run at SDQQ or AQDQ etc? would love to be there for that! You explain things so well.
He did a live Torna speedrun with gdq! here’s the link: ruclips.net/video/A-aEwU9alzM/видео.html
@@lukecrittell awesome! I wanna see xc2 next!!
HOLY!! that smash damage at 7:15
Other people have mentioned it, but I also really appreciate the spoiler warnings.
I remember I was one of the people who mentioned the protectors pride exploit, glad it's being used
I mean if they port XCX would they fix Ghost walker?
How did you do the smash combo at like 07:10 so fast, as if you'd do the talent art of Lanz ourobouros
I think that was Noah using Unlimited Blade's special Talent Art, the one that's basically Heavenly Disrupt 2.
Ahh Enel.. breaking Xeno -games per usual.
What happened to not uploading today Enel?
This was found like 10 minutes after that post and it was too hilarious not to upload
Perfekt Timing 👌🏻
Thats exactly the point in the story where im at so i can watch it instantly
Pre-video guess:
I mean it's Xenoblade, so probably Agility stacking or some variation like usual?
Haha I was waiting for this video! Time to see what Diskbomb-Ghostwalker-Poppi QTπ tier strategies we can pull this time around...
Or so I'd say once I finish the story. 60 hrs. and I'm still only on Chapter 4. This game is absolutely massive.
I did think about Eunie's Ouroboros form to pause the buff timers, but permanent invincibility is nuts. I probably won't try this out except if I want to laugh my head off, but it will still make for great videos.
Monolith when they try to balance their game (they completely failed)
None of the xenoblade games are
Balanced
@@omensoffate Yeah..
1:topple locking
2:…
X:Ghost walker
3:this
Yeah when I got the class I thought: this class is either extremely broken or completely useless
Then I used it in a story fight and thought damn this was easssssy and knew the answer
I completely forgot about miyori's talent art!
...also, side note apparently while in the ouroborus state, since you don't take actual damage, I think you can effectively grind to lv 99 as early as the fornis region using _just_ mio's
spoilers:
when noah is on a defense class his lucky 7 agnus art on the x button gives the whole party invincibility which makes this setup much easier to pull off.
This is why I love this IP and its different OP builds.
Lucky 7 with Noah as a Defender gives an Art that will grant the Invincible buff to all party members
This is a good build where I can just turn my brain off and maybe watch a movie on the side
you can do this much easier if you have noah as a defender btw
his up left art becomes AOE/ invulnerability
I want to discover the battle mechanics for myself as that's part of the joy in games, but here's a view for support bc your content is sublime, Mr. Math Man Enel, sir! Will go back to this when all battle mechanics have been made available. Looking forward to more analyses!
Ha this sounds insane I’ll come back and watch this when I get to chapter 6
Keep up the good content enel
So as of release, we've got the bosses down. Can't wait to see how DLC heroes and Land of Challenge break the game further
I'm so happy Signifer is busted. Purely because I've always been a fan of characters with spears/javelins/lances. And there's finally a game where it's broken! 🤣
If this gets patched, the route I'd expect them to take is to just keep the Lucky Seven timer running when you disengage. It seems the only reason the exploit exists is because they didn't consider the ramifications of immediately putting the Lucky Seven away, or perhaps didn't even realize you could.
they... had to have known they were allowing abuse by having noah's talent be counted as a normal buff...
That's insane.
Thanks you for the warning - I’m 36 hours in and only on Chapter 4….who would have thought the tutorial stage of XC3 would be longer than…almost every game on earth…jk…but damn.
Before watching let me guess, is it using the temporary invincibility from unlimited sword being transferred using signifier, then using other signifiers to keep looping it (like Ouroboros). Although I know the unlimited sword kit changes with class type and don’t know if the healer version has the invincibility.
Or are we just going to madly use the random buffs of the attacker mode with signifiers to have all the buffs on everyone.
"If you are not past the opening part of chapter six-"
Instantly stopped watching. Thank you very much for the spoiler warning, Enel. I'll continue on playing and watch this later. :D
And here I am again... that opening part truly was a roller coaster. :O
It hasn’t even been a week since release and we already figured out invincibility
when Xenoblade X strategies return
Invincible pausing gives me Topple/Daze locking vibes.
In the sense that both make the toughest superboss of each respective game your personal plaything
Thanks for the warning. I’ll be back in a few days.
i gotta ask what do you think about fiona as a character she gives me major haze vibes both in personality and gameplay
Chapter 6! Thanks for the warning I'll be there soonish. I just got the boat and man do I hate the boat!
Acts like a real boat to me. Large radius and takes a minute to turn. Backing up is sometimes faster.
So I did this EXACTLY and it doesn't work. Mio doesn't charge her Glittering Melody fast enough to keep the loop going. I have exactly the same everything for Noah and Mio and it's just not working at all. I can start it but it won't stay on.
*EDIT*: Never mind! Thanks to Enel here, I was missing the proper gems. I grinded them out and now it's working perfectly!
Maybe try controlling Mio yourself and make sure you have buff extend gem/skill?
@@EnelXC >> I think that's it. Thank you. Guess I gotta grind for those gems now.
@@EnelXC >> Thanks for helping me out with the gem thing. It's working perfectly now. I really appreciate it.
Enel: I highly advise that if you are not past atleast the first half of chapter 6 leave the video now.
Me, who has yet to start playing: Aight, I'mma head out.
The spoiler free version is that later in the game you gain access to a invincibility buff, using signifier you can use an exploit to make your whole party permanently have that buff
You also need a hero character which you get as one of the last things in chapter 6 though, for art recharge, and saying who it is would be a spoiler.
dunno if this makes the setup easier but I just found out noah's dpad up art with lucky seven grants an aoe invincibility if his main class is a tank (or at least lone exile, which's the one I was using when I found this)
Well, I think this secures it. Signifer is the silliest class/blade in any Xenoblade game. There might have been some debate before, but now it's pretty cut and dry.
Infinite overdrive in xenoblade X would beg to differ
@@aya8475 I miss overdrive so much
chain attacks are so slow and drawn-out compared to the rush I get spamming the ever-living hell out of arts in overdrive lol
yea invincibility is cool and all but the lowkey best part of the video is showing how awesome battles look with the damage numbers turned off.
I have a question: Im not sure if its because Im low level and its supposed to be like this(lvl 22) but Im playing in hard and I really feel like my healers heal next to nothing compared to what Im hit for in dmg. Its so bad that my only reliable tanks for named bosses has to be zephyr class to dodge, because I certainly dont have enough block or defense to make the defender any worth it except tanking 3 hits before I revive whoever is zephyr. Am I doing something wrong or is it really like this in hard mode?
Any tips on how I can heal better?
Edit: after a few more hours being unsuccessful, I just have to ask? Is there a way you found where I can tweak my allies AI? Its like working with morons. I throw a buff ring and for some reason they keep attacking while getting out of it, try to heal them and they actively start moving around, im at a freaking loss. How did they make such a bad AI!?Theres gotta be a way to tweak it that I dont know of.....
Pray to whatever God you believe in for an AI patch, this is a problem in Normal too. You'll put down an evasion ring and Lanz and Mio will go back to Colony 9 and start attacking from there to make 100% sure they aren't getting buffed.
@@darkmoone6659 LOL well at least it makes me feel better I'm not the only one. I was starting to think that I missed an obvious option somewhere. I was just in disbelief. When an enemy jumps to do an aoe attack, they don't move a freaking inch. But as soon as I put down a buff ring, they start bobbing and weaving around the ring like mad!!!
Hardmode feels *ridiculous* in comparison to Normal mode. I genuinely fought some bosses for over an hour or more because of how durable they are and how many times they made me wipe getting through them.
Unless you're really dead set on it, hardmode is probably *not* the intended way to play this game LOL
Hard mode is more for when you beat the game and have the best setups, i also played in hard mode from start to finish and it honestly takes alot of time playing on normal or easy would of saved me alot of time however if you play on hard from start to finish the game does last you longer it took me 140hours to beat it.
Chapter 4 still... welp tootles I'll come back to this one for sure
I thought that thing was Lv 120. how does it become 200
He picked the Challenge option before the start of the battle.
Does Levialord Empireo remove buffs? Every time I fight it I lose my buffs like crazy with 5 Signifers. No other fight has been like this.
Anyone knows if this still works? I'm trying to do this strategy for my gem farming but I can't seem to make it work. I can give the buff to my team once but even with multiple signifiers in the team I can't seem to have 100% up time and it inevitably drops after the 1rst or second share
I just reached the start of chapter 3 today, so I will not be watching this video after hearing the intro. I will still leave a comment for algorithm.
Does this work on the final boss? I died immediately after the last two Heroes showed up, everyone but my defenders getting Oneshot
I hope they don't patch this out. Haven't tried it yet, but it looks like stupid fun, which is everything these games should aim to be. Plus, it's a single player game so these kinds of cheese strats don't affect anyone.
I probably won't find myself using this too much since I'm a sucker for Unlimited Sword and I like to actually usw Lucky 7 (it fuels my inner weeb, what can I say?), but this might be great to mess around with every so often
Hey! Nice guide! I used it a lot when challenging Seraphinia up until level 200. I’m just wondering if there is any issue when facing Kilocorn. I used the exact same strategy and setup as against Seraphinia, but for some reason, when Noah sheathes his blade, he loses all the buffs. I’m just confused at this point
Do you know the best moveset for soul hacker?
So what happen when you chain attack? The buffs stay? What after you finish the chain attack? In any case, is it safe to do chain attacks in this strat? Cause then that would make killing the bosses faster.
buff timers run during chain attack when animations are playing. in that time, the pause buffs effect (also referred to as stasis by Enel since that's what the buff was called in X) will run out, causing the invincible buff to run out
@@zanderswift6009 Thanks a lot! So i guess the best way would be to have 2 signifers, 4 DPS and Ashera (probably with no damage boost accesories so she dosnt draw aggro) then do enough damage safely with this strat untill you can Chain Attack on a Launch and do the regular strat to finish the fight. Gonna try this later, thanks!
@@Alexj96 Yep sounds like a solid strategy for clearing the superbosses
Can you make a video on the best classes for each character?
This might be asking a bit too much, but can you make an extensive guide for Soul Hacker class?
I will eventually
I need a answer long or short I haven't been able to decide
Do the buffs pause in chain attacks or do they time out eventually?
they dont pause
Holly shit im laughing my ass off, it tooks just a couple days for the game to be broken. God i love this community.