To anyone watching in 2021, I'm pleased to say that the component troubles have been fixed! The markers are MUCH more visible on the map, the reverse side of the board is a straight brown-and-tan sepia map that any marker would show up very well on, and the compass features a little wing-nut to adjust the tightness, and a very sturdy rubber band in case the pen holder breaks. It's real good!
@@melloguicastr Oh hello! I love comments from the future! I'm referring the base game box, I don't own any expansions. The markers inside are just fine.
You have not known real fear until you're watching a SU&SD review of a game you've ALREADY PURCHASED (but haven't played) and the first 3 minutes are nothing but compliments about the game. Oh Jesus. Oh god no. This game's actually horrible isn't it...
I feel your pain. I had that exact experience after I purchased Warhammer Diskwars, and then watched the SU&SD review of it before playing it. Still ended up quite enjoying Diskwars though.
Your production values have improved so much! The closeup with the scurvy alert was incredibly soft lighting, and the audio quality is so much nicer than your early work. Thanks for continuing to put out great content - and working hard on making it funny as well as interesting!
"We were like feral 8-year-olds trying to collect felt-tip pens in a post-apocalyptic world where coloring in is the only thing that could keep us sane." 😝
Great review of a fun game. 🙂 They left out in their description what I think might be the most important rule in the game - that if a player searches for treasure and Long John Silver isn’t sure if they found the treasure then they found it. This helps mitigate a good deal of possible vagueness in when someone wins the game. Another interesting technical bit they left out, Long John has two sets of clues he can give, “normal” clues and clues that give less than normal amounts of information. The hitch is that he can only give out the less useful clues if he first gives one of the other players a token that gives them a bonus of some sort like a free action. So Long John has to choose between giving useful clues and giving less useful ones but also helping the players another way.
Doug Rosengard If there's one weakness to this (not yet played by me) box, I'd say it's the rulebook. I've read it multiple times and had overlooked this specific rule. It's definitely in there, but was described in such a way that I had to jump to a different part of the booklet to read about them before understanding the general flow of play. Thanks for noting it, and I agree that it's another clever way of generating asymmetry in the information the players have while searching.
Deliberately, in Sir Ian McKellen's voice: The Oil Soon Dry, The Adhere is Strong: Are Any and Smooth Surface Can? Write! Have! No Radiation and Attention! To Seal the Cover, Completely, After Use.
I'm glad you guys said something about the board's contrast. Both my production and graphic design sensibilities were offended immediately by the hard-to-see markers. Seems like a really obvious thing that the authors should've caught at any one point in testing.
As a fellow graphic designer, I agree. I guess the game designer felt everything should be bright saturated colors like other board games. But they should make the map sepia color with dark brown lines and shading like a real treasure map from the 1700s.
I bought and love this game, and had the same issue with the caliper. I found a really easy way to fix it, though! Judy twist the bolt -clockwise! It was easy enough that I, a relatively weak lass, can do it with my bare hands easily. Hope that helps!
I'm sort of new to your channel and I just have to say that you guys are brilliant! So wholesome and wonderfully silly and clever at the same time, I'm glad I found you guys I feel at home here. Thank you!
You convinced me to buy it. Played it last night and we had all the fun you described. Thanks for the recommendation I can't wait to show this off to more people. Very unique, I think it'll be a part of my collection for a long time.
My favorite thing about SUSD is you can tell how much quinns loves a game by how goofy he is in the review. Laughed out loud at him looking for his pen jammed in his ear
Since the last Shut up and Sit Down review, I've discovered the channel, watch nearly every single video, found the podcast, and listened to about 20 of them. Yes I do need a hobby.
@@Egregius You mean getting together with a bunch of friends and take one of your games off the shelves to give it a spin? Is that a thing people do? I thought we were all just collectors and Kallax buyers :P
You're not alone. I found their channel two weeks ago when a friend of mine said he was buying a new game. Haven't hit the podcasts yet, but I just finished the last bit of backlogged video about an hour ago. I even have hobbies, a regular game group, and a very busy career. It's thanks to my second monitor that any of this was possible.
@@dilupus currently in college for engineering and right now all of my free time goes into calculus because it's not free time. All free time has become calculus time T.T So the podcasts make good companions to listen to as I do more calculus
This is one of my most favorite games to teach to tables (I teach board games as my job). This game is not for everyone but once people figure it out omg it's amazing. It's one where everyone wants to be long John. My friends play in a different way where long John never draws on the board. That's what the players need to do. It causes the players to work more than long john
My solution to the markup longevity would be to get a clear/semi opaque piece of white plastic and use that. It would probably show up better as well, although you would have to store it separately and not in the game box.
With all due respect to Paul, your vids have never been more entertaining and professional looking! Looking forward to see what else you have in store for 2019!
Phil Watkins Their production value is far better but Quinns and Paul had auch a great synergy. Don’t get me wrong I love Matt and think his solo stuff is great but I feel that he and Quinns are a bit too much alike to make a great duo.
I've found that the metallic colored ones, especially brass colored, tend to work great for showing up on anything. I don't know if they make dry erase ones in brass but it's something to consider.
How i think the conversation about this must have gone: Matt: We'll just put a lamp in the drawer! Quinns: It's going to look rubbish! Matt: No, it'll be fine! Matt and Quinns when they see what it looks like on camera: Holy crap.
I remember you guys talking about playing the prototype with Rodney Smith at the gathering of friends on your podcast. Since then, I couldn't stand in place and wait to get it. I HAD to have it in my hands! I NEEDED this game that would bring me this breath of fresh air!! And I'm glad to say that thanks to you, I got my hands on a copy from Essen. This was my most anticipated #1 game from 2018, and this is my game of the year so far. Watching your review and seeing you still feel the same excitement you had when you talked about it like 9 months ago just shows how this game is just unique and amazing! Do I sound happy? Can you feel the love for this game and you guys?!! If not, then AAARRRRHHH
watching quinns at 14:00 just trying so desperately not to break into a smile for those 5 seconds is, perhaps, scientifically speaking, "the funniest shit in the world"
The solution to your business foundation problem is to adopt Long John Silver's methods. Point a loaded 18 pound cannon at your "customers" and then ask for donations.
If anyone here in the future (or in the FUTURE future) is still having trouble with pen visibility, I'd like to suggest that you try using a chalk marker. They show up well on most everything and wipe clean off of most surfaces as well. Much love to all.
First off, Quinns, is that a Netrunner Link tattoo? Second off, hats off to you guys continuing to drive me into the poor house. But when I'm finally on the streets I'll at least be able to make a fort out of my board games.
Excellent as always :) Are you planning to review Monsterpocalypse, maybe? As a Warmachine fan I'm looking at it with interest, but for some reason it doesn't get much attention from mainstream reviewers online. Even Dice Tower doesn't have a review of MonPoc, even though the game is made in the US.
Surely then, the board has a sepia "play" side and a nice looking background on the other side. The sepia side also has red outlines of im assuming places Long John couldn't have buried it.
14:30 When Matt started unbuttoning his shirt without warning at the end there I thought the REAL show was about to start. But alas, no, instead it was just a bit odd.
I'm worried this game would just be too finicky and easily devolve into a game of "Well the dot was there and your search circle was 1mm to the left so...". There's always competitive people in my group where I worry about this.
This actually is covered in the rules: "If the circle contains or touches the location of the treasure, the treasure is found!" and then, more importantly, "If Long John Silver has any doubts about the accuracy of his answer, he must declare the treasure as being found." It actually forces LJS to be more methodical when he's hiding it, i.e... knowing that if a pirate searches a part of the building that he's hid it in, it's assumed that they've searched the whole building.
Great review guys, I'm visiting London in April and it's good to know, I won't be able to pick up any markers. Thanks. Couple of questions though. How many people have you played it with so far, Is there an optimal number? And what is the time between turns? Is everyone sitting around while you're trying to figure out where to draw a circle? :)
The eyeliner and dangling crucifix had me thinking less Captain Jack and more Cabin Boy George to be honest... And it was very hard not to literally cheer at the appearance of the Standard Reference Pear™!
I wonder if SU&SD had any rulebook issues. I know NPI brought that up as a criticism. I’ve really enjoyed some hidden movement games and the look if this is gorgeous, but for some reason something doesn’t appeal... Loved the review 🙂
Makes me wonder if you framed it could you continue to use it without the board getting covered in residue from the pens. Now that would be an interesting test to try.
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To anyone watching in 2021, I'm pleased to say that the component troubles have been fixed! The markers are MUCH more visible on the map, the reverse side of the board is a straight brown-and-tan sepia map that any marker would show up very well on, and the compass features a little wing-nut to adjust the tightness, and a very sturdy rubber band in case the pen holder breaks. It's real good!
Are you referring to the expansion components? Or is that for the base game box?
@@melloguicastr Oh hello! I love comments from the future! I'm referring the base game box, I don't own any expansions. The markers inside are just fine.
Good to know. I just bought this game!
But now the downside is it's hard to tell the difference between forests, water, and buildings on the back side lol
Treasure island is able to do what so many have failed to before; teach pirates that the real treasure is the friends they made along the way.
"Diamonds or Silver, or Mercedes-Benz, not even the Oceans, are greater than friends."
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Pirates and ninjas can be friends!
I swear to god if oda pulls that I'll kill im meself
LOL the "foundation of your business is donations and that is impractical when it comes to assessing risk" that really got me!
Me too. I had not thought about that, but I could see that being an issue for them.
Hahaha, YES! "That got real"
It's kinda bunk, though. The foundation of any business is "donations".
"I miss parties..." ...you have no idea
Yeah. So many jokes that hit too hard now. Jokes that aged poorly despite not really containing objectionable material.
oof :'(
Cole Garland 11:20 thanks for the reminder
Same
You have not known real fear until you're watching a SU&SD review of a game you've ALREADY PURCHASED (but haven't played) and the first 3 minutes are nothing but compliments about the game. Oh Jesus. Oh god no. This game's actually horrible isn't it...
Oh god Quinns is getting excited about the rules. They're about to set this game on fire aren't they...
We're at 10:00 folks and it's still all good news. They're about to mid-review turnaround nuke this game from orbit and make me regret everything.
Hurray! I'll take it!
I feel your pain. I had that exact experience after I purchased Warhammer Diskwars, and then watched the SU&SD review of it before playing it. Still ended up quite enjoying Diskwars though.
To be fair, them disliking a game doesn't mean it's bad! They didn't like root, and I loved it. Bought it *based* on their review, even :D
How unfortunate that Quinns' third clue was actually a lie.
Pens that really work well:
FlashingBoards Liquid Chalk (Fluorescent Neon) Marker Pen 8 Color Pack Dry Erase (on Amazon)
Your production values have improved so much! The closeup with the scurvy alert was incredibly soft lighting, and the audio quality is so much nicer than your early work. Thanks for continuing to put out great content - and working hard on making it funny as well as interesting!
Teachers pet
Matt looks good in eyeliner
Matt should wear eyeliner again in future videos.
@@MarkChimes if he doesn't...I mean it'll probably have to be an unsubscribe
I was about to say, he looks so cool
Everyone looks good in eyeliner!
The eyeliner was a nice touch. It's that kind of commitment that keeps me coming back.
"Ornate irate pirate stalemate" may be my favorite line ever.
"We were like feral 8-year-olds trying to collect felt-tip pens in a post-apocalyptic world where coloring in is the only thing that could keep us sane." 😝
Welcome to 2020!
The uncomfortable smile cam was a great touch.
"ornate irate pirate stalemate" is gold.
Great review of a fun game. 🙂 They left out in their description what I think might be the most important rule in the game - that if a player searches for treasure and Long John Silver isn’t sure if they found the treasure then they found it. This helps mitigate a good deal of possible vagueness in when someone wins the game.
Another interesting technical bit they left out, Long John has two sets of clues he can give, “normal” clues and clues that give less than normal amounts of information. The hitch is that he can only give out the less useful clues if he first gives one of the other players a token that gives them a bonus of some sort like a free action. So Long John has to choose between giving useful clues and giving less useful ones but also helping the players another way.
Doug Rosengard If there's one weakness to this (not yet played by me) box, I'd say it's the rulebook. I've read it multiple times and had overlooked this specific rule. It's definitely in there, but was described in such a way that I had to jump to a different part of the booklet to read about them before understanding the general flow of play. Thanks for noting it, and I agree that it's another clever way of generating asymmetry in the information the players have while searching.
"Based on the Muppets Treasure Island" - that got me :D
So were just not gonna talk about that incredible 1990s PC Ark joke?
You guys are in top form here.
Deliberately, in Sir Ian McKellen's voice:
The Oil Soon Dry, The Adhere is Strong:
Are Any and Smooth Surface Can?
Write! Have! No Radiation and Attention!
To Seal the Cover, Completely, After Use.
this one wasn't on the radar but now it just might be. excellent job.
I'm glad you guys said something about the board's contrast. Both my production and graphic design sensibilities were offended immediately by the hard-to-see markers. Seems like a really obvious thing that the authors should've caught at any one point in testing.
It sounds like the game would work really well with chalk pens though
I feel like a classic parchment map would've both suited the theme and played better...
I'm surprised Matagot didn't learn from Captain Sonar that the best way is a perspex cover for the map!
As a fellow graphic designer, I agree. I guess the game designer felt everything should be bright saturated colors like other board games. But they should make the map sepia color with dark brown lines and shading like a real treasure map from the 1700s.
Always Falling Short yeah. I don’t know if they show it or not but there is another side of board that is much easier to see.
I bought and love this game, and had the same issue with the caliper. I found a really easy way to fix it, though! Judy twist the bolt -clockwise! It was easy enough that I, a relatively weak lass, can do it with my bare hands easily.
Hope that helps!
... that was supposed to be "just," not "Judy..."
I'm sort of new to your channel and I just have to say that you guys are brilliant! So wholesome and wonderfully silly and clever at the same time, I'm glad I found you guys I feel at home here. Thank you!
I’ve been looking forwards to this since I heard you talking about it on the podcastle - even more so now it’s had the video treatment 😄
I'm torn....
Not about the game, that looks awesome!!
I'm torn whether I'm more impressed by the eyeliner or the 'treasure in the drawer'!!!
"Ornate irate pirate stalemate"
Give him an award. No, I don't care. That swimming badge, that'll do.
Our compass became loose as well, but you use a screwdriver to tighten it back up and it works again.
You convinced me to buy it. Played it last night and we had all the fun you described. Thanks for the recommendation I can't wait to show this off to more people. Very unique, I think it'll be a part of my collection for a long time.
My favorite thing about SUSD is you can tell how much quinns loves a game by how goofy he is in the review. Laughed out loud at him looking for his pen jammed in his ear
I played this at PAX Unplugged and I had a thought that the themes and dynamics of the game would really shine if you played with real money.
Best first lie clue... "I have already lied in one of my clues"
Since the last Shut up and Sit Down review, I've discovered the channel, watch nearly every single video, found the podcast, and listened to about 20 of them. Yes I do need a hobby.
You mean like playing boardgames? :P
@@Egregius You mean getting together with a bunch of friends and take one of your games off the shelves to give it a spin? Is that a thing people do? I thought we were all just collectors and Kallax buyers :P
You're not alone. I found their channel two weeks ago when a friend of mine said he was buying a new game. Haven't hit the podcasts yet, but I just finished the last bit of backlogged video about an hour ago.
I even have hobbies, a regular game group, and a very busy career. It's thanks to my second monitor that any of this was possible.
@@dilupus currently in college for engineering and right now all of my free time goes into calculus because it's not free time. All free time has become calculus time T.T
So the podcasts make good companions to listen to as I do more calculus
This is one of my most favorite games to teach to tables (I teach board games as my job). This game is not for everyone but once people figure it out omg it's amazing. It's one where everyone wants to be long John. My friends play in a different way where long John never draws on the board. That's what the players need to do. It causes the players to work more than long john
“leaking clues, like some sort of ... riddle udder”
My solution to the markup longevity would be to get a clear/semi opaque piece of white plastic and use that. It would probably show up better as well, although you would have to store it separately and not in the game box.
Matt shouting “it’s a family show” in the background got me good.
With all due respect to Paul, your vids have never been more entertaining and professional looking! Looking forward to see what else you have in store for 2019!
Phil Watkins Their production value is far better but Quinns and Paul had auch a great synergy. Don’t get me wrong I love Matt and think his solo stuff is great but I feel that he and Quinns are a bit too much alike to make a great duo.
Matt's "I miss parties" made me far sadder than it should've done.
Hits close to home
Hits even closer at the moment!
that 7:01 production value
0:09 I was listening along then "based on that classic" oh yeah that book by that Stevenson guy "Muppet Treasure Island" burst out laughing
I've found that the metallic colored ones, especially brass colored, tend to work great for showing up on anything. I don't know if they make dry erase ones in brass but it's something to consider.
this feels like a non co-op version of Fury of Dracula and that is one of my favorite board games so I have to give this a shot!
just wanted to point out how amazing the thumbnail is
Anyone else replay 7:00 over and over? First time I've seen that as a practical effect, simply wonderful.
How i think the conversation about this must have gone:
Matt: We'll just put a lamp in the drawer!
Quinns: It's going to look rubbish!
Matt: No, it'll be fine!
Matt and Quinns when they see what it looks like on camera: Holy crap.
First time I saw it was in Pulp Fiction... But yes, wonderfully done indeed!
I remember you guys talking about playing the prototype with Rodney Smith at the gathering of friends on your podcast. Since then, I couldn't stand in place and wait to get it.
I HAD to have it in my hands! I NEEDED this game that would bring me this breath of fresh air!!
And I'm glad to say that thanks to you, I got my hands on a copy from Essen. This was my most anticipated #1 game from 2018, and this is my game of the year so far.
Watching your review and seeing you still feel the same excitement you had when you talked about it like 9 months ago just shows how this game is just unique and amazing!
Do I sound happy? Can you feel the love for this game and you guys?!! If not, then AAARRRRHHH
You're a little odd Vincent, but I like you.
The bit at the end with Matt suffocating under the vid thumbnails. So funny.
"A post apocalyptic world where coloring things in is the only way to keep us sane " hits different after 2020
Very accurate review, also worth noting that the rulebook is an absolute disaster.
Regarding 3:48, each pirate can only do the clue verification action twice per game.
watching quinns at 14:00 just trying so desperately not to break into a smile for those 5 seconds is, perhaps, scientifically speaking, "the funniest shit in the world"
Never been this early. Tip: if you're getting scurvy skittles will cure it. Or like literally anything.
@@Jindorek if you have scurvy and don't like fruit, I'm sure you would still settle for some strawberries
Lemons don't contain a lot of vitamin C. Sauerkraut, on the other hand, lots of it.
Looks like I need to add another game to my collection, thanks guys!!
The solution to your business foundation problem is to adopt Long John Silver's methods. Point a loaded 18 pound cannon at your "customers" and then ask for donations.
5:16 Had me laughing out loud. One of my favorite reviews of theirs (and that's saying A LOT) and I can't wait to play this. :D
Now imagine one of the three clues about the orange... was in fact not true.
I looked away for a bit, I turn back and Matt is wearing eye liner.... and looks really good in it?
matt's makeup on point
It's amazing how much that "turn that frown upside down" bit cracked me up! An interesting game for sure though!
I feel like merchants and marauders deserves a play : P
Just opened our new copy today, we really like it. They probably saw your review, the pens are much better visible now!
4:27 is so good.
"Oh... that got real!" Love this review LMAO :)
"Oh that got real"
Fuck that got me so good
The best part was Matt looking around as he fell over at the end when he was supposed to be dead XD
If anyone here in the future (or in the FUTURE future) is still having trouble with pen visibility, I'd like to suggest that you try using a chalk marker. They show up well on most everything and wipe clean off of most surfaces as well.
Much love to all.
First off, Quinns, is that a Netrunner Link tattoo? Second off, hats off to you guys continuing to drive me into the poor house. But when I'm finally on the streets I'll at least be able to make a fort out of my board games.
Excellent as always :) Are you planning to review Monsterpocalypse, maybe? As a Warmachine fan I'm looking at it with interest, but for some reason it doesn't get much attention from mainstream reviewers online. Even Dice Tower doesn't have a review of MonPoc, even though the game is made in the US.
If Matt could play Jack Sparrow in future Pirates movies, that'd be great. I'd actually watch em!
Surely then, the board has a sepia "play" side and a nice looking background on the other side. The sepia side also has red outlines of im assuming places Long John couldn't have buried it.
The light in the dresser! had me dying, Great work as usual
14:30 When Matt started unbuttoning his shirt without warning at the end there I thought the REAL show was about to start. But alas, no, instead it was just a bit odd.
The treasure in the drawer was the treasure that are the reviews on this channel all along.
POSCA marker pens or chalk pens should be good for this. A slightly damp cloth would wipe it off clean as long as the surface is non-permeable.
I'm worried this game would just be too finicky and easily devolve into a game of "Well the dot was there and your search circle was 1mm to the left so...". There's always competitive people in my group where I worry about this.
This actually is covered in the rules: "If the circle contains or touches the location of the treasure, the treasure is found!" and then, more importantly, "If Long John Silver has any doubts about the accuracy of his answer, he must declare the treasure as being found."
It actually forces LJS to be more methodical when he's hiding it, i.e... knowing that if a pirate searches a part of the building that he's hid it in, it's assumed that they've searched the whole building.
Sounds like the game would work really well with chalk pens
When I searched Amazon for this board game, I accidentally typed "Treasure Island board gasm". But I think maybe that typo is apropos for this review.
That white board marker poem was amazing.
We lost the ruler on the map more times thatn I want to admit.
I can tell you are experiencied!
Looks like that game needs a light sepia monochrome map, more like an old school pirate map than a satellite image map.
Long John Expansion: whomever wins Treasure Island gets a (now cold) box of fried shrimp!
So glad "I" donated. (Showed my wife and she pulled out her credit card.)
The joke where they put mat behind the videos at the end is even better in mobile since you can click and see through the links.
A+ for Quinn's straight face at 14:00. Masterful composure.
That Ark joke was so fucking good holy shit.
You two are my favourite gay couple on the internet. I honestly love your videos, and I've maybe played four board Games.
It must have cost a few pennies to get Ryan Reynolds, Jennifer Tilly, Elle Fanning, and the Littlest Hobo for the cover
Wonder if those silver/golden ink markers can be good?
For me the biggest problem was wiping away previous clues from the board everytime I touched it with my fat fingers.
Spirit Island, Dinosaur Island, Robinson Crusoe: Adventures on the cursed island... yeah I'm a fan of Island games.
Great review guys, I'm visiting London in April and it's good to know, I won't be able to pick up any markers. Thanks. Couple of questions though. How many people have you played it with so far, Is there an optimal number? And what is the time between turns? Is everyone sitting around while you're trying to figure out where to draw a circle? :)
Thank God, you're back. I've missed you guys!
The eyeliner and dangling crucifix had me thinking less Captain Jack and more Cabin Boy George to be honest... And it was very hard not to literally cheer at the appearance of the Standard Reference Pear™!
Wow. Bible Adventures reference. I did not expect that.
5:43 that is such legit surprise
You guys should review "Guards of Atlantis." It's made by a small studio that could use the exposure and it's an amazing game.
I wonder if SU&SD had any rulebook issues. I know NPI brought that up as a criticism.
I’ve really enjoyed some hidden movement games and the look if this is gorgeous, but for some reason something doesn’t appeal...
Loved the review 🙂
the bank part was gold... "that got real"
Liquid chalk pens would work brilliantly.
Makes me wonder if you framed it could you continue to use it without the board getting covered in residue from the pens. Now that would be an interesting test to try.
God I’ve never felt so tense and anxious watching a review before. Wondering if Quinn’s would find that fake treasure. 👍
Yarrr! Another great video! You guys are wildly entertaining to watch!