How They Ruined The World War Z Movie ft. Donut Operator, Admin Results & The Fat Electrician
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“They would start protesting for zombie rights,” honest to god this is what happened on the last season of Z nation.
Pretty much Dead Rising 2 did first, and funny enough the whole ass NGO that did that got infected excepto two of them.
They did it in Shaun of the Dead too.
i glad i didn't watch the last season then
@@jackhammertwo1 Honest to god that's better than Z Nation. A bunch of people get offended that some humans don't want zombies doing things like babysitting and the humans are made out to be the bad guys. Mind you as soon as the "people cookies" the zombies eat to stay sane run out they go right back to eating people.
@@echothefurry164 Live in the first 3 seasons man, I do the same with GOT and stop at season 5.
Donut was trying to get the boys to read the book so bad lol
Well, I want to read it now..
@@Chef-vg4pu It's a fucking awesome book. Do it.
It’s really good. I think if they had been able to make more movies (fuck the CCP and Hollywood listening to them), they would have focused on another set of characters dealing with the outbreak. Especially since the game that’s set in the same universe as the movie does something very similar with different campaigns set in different areas of the world with unique characters for each.
@@crimsongogeta6810 New York,Jerusalem,Moscow,Tokio,Marseille,Yakarta,Rome and Texas irrc.
I cannot stress enough how good the book was, the injustice the movie did to that book is beyond unjust. Eli was *RIGHT* on the money with it focus in different chapters with this reporter interviewing people after all that shit went down and making them recap shit they saw.
For example, near the end of the book as he's talking about the "Sandlers", the US military essentially adopts a square/tercio formation drived from old napoleonic tactics. in the middle of these formations are crates and crates of food; water; ammunition and other supplies. The "Sandlers" were nicknamed after Bobby Bouchet, Adam Sandler's role in "Waterboy". the Sandler's sole job in this formation was to run bullets, bread and water to the guys on the firing lines while death-metal; rock and techno were blasted to draw in zombies.
“You can get a lot of shit done when you don’t care about human rights.” 😂
Very similar to something I said once; Becoming rich is easy. All you have to do is sacrifice ethics and morality.
When you don't care about those, you can obtain them chest easily. Look at Zuckerberg. Clearly a sociopath, but super rich and clearly doesn't give a crap about people. Hell, he hired people to help him look like he does care. Frikkin weirdo.
And TFE admitting that communism was good at things that violated human rights. 😆😆😆😆😆😆
You can get things done, probably not well. Kind of what China does, and some others.
Donut straight took that terrible adaptation personally and will never forgive them until his dying day
Neither will I fuck that movie. I saw the movie before I read the book and thought it was pretty mediocre, and then a few years later I read the book and it quickly became one of my all time favorites I’ve read it like 12 times by this point and now I hate that movie with a passion and intensity that 1000 of the hottest and brightest stars in the galaxy could never hope to match.
its not even an adaptation they paid max brooks to use the name.
That's how I feel about the last of us show
I was at a convention where max brooks was a panel speaker. The movie had only been out for a couple weeks and someone asked him "what do you think of the WWZ movie?" His answer was "it has a great title. Next question?"
"The Zombie Survival Guide" by Max Brooks is the precursor book of World War Z and is hilariously informative.
Top 10 lessons for surviving Zomie Attack
1. Organize before they rise!
2. The feel no fear, why should you?
3. Use your head: cut of theirs
4. Blades need no reloading
5. Ideal protection = tight clothes and short hair
6. Get up the staircase, then destroy it
7. Get out of the car, get onto the bike
8. Keep moving, keep low, keep quiet, keep alert!
9. No place is safe, only safer
10. The zombie may be gone, but the threat lives on.
Which is why in wwz when one of the guys was mocking survival guides. I laughed my ass off when I read that part.
right? I have that book and it is surprisingly deep
I get the short hair, but tight clothes?
@@isaacbrown4506same deal. Don’t give them anything to grab.
It's such a good book. It only fails when it comes to weapons. That was the only place where it was obvious Max Brooks is a New Yorker that has never touched a gun before and got all of his facts from History Channel documentaries or early 2000s gun forums. He talks shit on the M16 for like three pages and then says the M1 Carbine is the ideal zombie gun.
They fucked up the movie. I listened to the audiobook and LOVED it
Check out the Z survival guid 😎👍
If it's the audiobook with Mark Hamill and Alan Alda then you missed out on some stories
@rileyhaynes2515 Yeah, but they have the lost chapters audio book as well, which has the missing stories. I remember because that one had my personal favorite story of the black market surgeon.
I got that one still ripped to my ol' 360 from when I was in year 2 of highschool,@@GameNerd91, loved it how Cuba won the zombie wars, I think that has line to be one of my favriots in the book, I should dust off and fire it up again and give it another listen. Man so many hours I heard that book from start to finish over and over again playing fallout3/NV, skyrim, all of mass effect. . .
@@GameNerd91that story was awesome!
Right there with ya Donut. The book is hands down one of the best books I've ever read. That one interview with the little girl with the learning disability had me in tears man. It's so good.
Man, that was such a dark story. It was up there with the two chinese astronauts.
Wait I thought that she's a formal feral kid
Just re-listened to it. The narrator says she has the mind of a 4 year old. They never say if she's developmentally challenged (just implied). But remember, she said the lady with "the soft arms" saved her.
@@Inquisitor81 she’s not, she just never had anyone to teach her past that point and focused more on surviving alone. Her and others are being rehabilitated and released all the time.
Is it though? I felt like it was really dumb lol
"an epic saga of a father trying to get his family to shut the f$%k up". 💀💀💀
I really wanted to see Donut go in on WWZ for like 30 minutes. That movie was the equivalent of ordering a pizza and the driver shows up with frozen liver cheese instead.
My brother saw an Iraqi insurgent running down the street with an RPG, tripping over a curb, and blowing himself up.
*_~Duuuuuumb ways to diiiiiie~_*
He must have pissed himself laughing. Sounds like insurgents in an episode of 1000 ways to die where they made a bomb but forgot about time zones or day light savings or something like that and blew themselves up.
Was it a homemade warhead? Cause i thought they had an inertia based arming system. Has to go a certain distance first
Insurgent cooked his buddy’s face w a back blast once
God's will is greater than your manmade tech @@jamescr101
edit: obvi sarcasm
Fun fact: in Fear The Walking Dead(terrible series, don’t watch it) it’s shown that in the initial stages of the walker infection spreading, they literally did start protesting for walker rights and then the protests turned into riots as more and more people in the crowds started turning into zombies. And it’s actually those riots that cause the collapse of society, rather than the zombies themselves.
Lowkey the only part of the series I remember vividly.
Idk first few seasons are ok, its when they did the soft reboot later on when things started to get bad, and I mean reeeaally bad.
Splitting a bullet with an Axe mid flight to kill 2 guys, a fan favorite character killed off and suddenly brought back because he randomly had a twin who literally was just the same guy for the sake of not writing a whole plot behind him, and a hell of a lot of other absolutely stupid ideas.
I think my biggest peeve with the series was them doing a time skip after the first few episodes, like why?
The whole hype train behind the show was to see how the world went to hell, not skipping ahead into the dead world that we already knew about.
@@mtnd02.06 You nailed it on the head: the main problem with the series.
It was supposed to be the "how the world fell apart" series, but after season 1 it just became "Walking Dead... but California"
Bro ain't nobody wants to watch Walking Dead: California, we wanna see how the world ended.
Some of the characters & set ups started off really solid in that first season, like the Mexican preacher slowly losing his mind, or the more intimate look we got at the military and how they reacted to the outbreak(and eventually fell apart themselves)
Hell, considering when this all came out in the real world(2015-2017), FTWD was actually _better_ in my opinion than TWD in that era... Season 7-9 Walking Dead was a fucking MESS bro, for a hot minute it looked like Fear was gonna have to take over the whole series because they had fumbled the story of the Atlanta group so hard... Right up until Fear jumped the shark and nosedived straight into the same stupid shit that ruined the first series.
Both shows suck, like really fucking hard, but ironically the first couple seasons of both series are some of the best apocalypse TV we've ever seen.
Just, don't bother watching after that first season, in either case.
Fear the walking dead s1 to S3 is gold.
Specially S3.
I loved the La episodes before they went out to the desert
They are not protesting for walker rights the general public didnt understand the hundreds of police shootings that started accuring suddenly were actually walkers being shot.And the TWD universe is completely naive to the idea of a zombie.
I LOVED the World War Z book, I feel so bad for Max Brooks getting done like that.
NEVER trust Hollywood with your work.
He absolutely disavowed the movie and the studio.
The Yonkers story was so good in the book,
and I think my favorite aspect was the ferals who basically just adopted being just like zombies and you couldn't tell the difference except when they blinked.
From what heard is he really didn't care
Quick correction, ferals were the abandoned children that survived in the gray zones. The people who imitated zombies were called quislings.
Yonkers was retarded and Max Brooks doesn't understand the tactics he is criticizing.
Cold War tactics apparently = Napoleonic era line battles
I know a better idea! Lets get ourselves surrounded on purpose!
@@MasterFancyPants it was stupid but the book wouldn't have had a America chapter if it was realistic. Although I think it'd be cool to have it happen in a small town because they wouldn't have access to military and police support
@@thadisturbedone1606 Idk, I think it could be well written.
Instead of Yonkers being a battle that took place over a few hours. Make it a campaign that took place over months.
Instead of the military being incompetent, have them do nearly everything right.
Except all of new York is gone, and they are facing 10 million zombies and constant outbreaks behind the frontline that have to be dealt with.
Within days all the smart bombs run.
Within weeks they run of artillery and fuel starts to be a problem.
After many months of 24/7 fighting, fuel is so critical that they can no longer shuffle back and forth fresh troops, food, and small arms ammunition.
The military doing everything right and still losing is a lot more scary than "They were so dumb!!"
The flood from halo is still to this day the only version of a zombie I’m actually terrified of.. like the idea of being a zombie and still being conscious and having none of your nerves cut or anything. Just having limbs and shit repurposed is fucking crazy to me
Thats also the Last of Us infection. Which is based on an actual fungus that takes bodies over.
The flood’s even worse because you feel them ripping your brain apart to get any useful information from you.
@@davidritchie9344 yeah it takes over bugs or something i think right? Nah i dont know is really comparable though in that sense. Its so much more complex, like the flood is pretty nasty, and incredibly smart
Living like Pvt Jenkins is almost worse than a full flood infection
@@30cal23 IYKYK
Would love a book club where these guys read WWZ and talk about how they survive it.
THIS! So much this. One chapter per week with podcast afterwards.
@@Talon19 the people are speaking guys! Give us the content we crave.
George Romero (the man who wrote the movie "Night of the living dead") the first real zombie movie was asked by a reporter how these slow moving things could overwhelm an army...his answer was simple "Zombies don't have to reload"
in zombie games i always stuck with a sniper and something belt fed. i preferred to stay far enough away to not worry about their time running up
Romeros dawn of the living dead which gave a more generalised depiction of the country level state of things in the apocalypse makes it abundently clear the only reason civilisation collapsed was the already low social cohesion and the low state of readiness of the public for any emergency even the main cast abandons their post and doesnt report the 2 cops that are seen loading supplies to the boat who are implied to have murdered the stations radio operator for not deserting with them.
@@AhmetOzdemir-om3bj it's just dawn of the dead,but still a great movie
The thing about Muscles not going at 100% is true. That’s why you sometimes see stories of a Mother picking up a car off their child or I’ve seen one of a cop running away from a forest fire in full gear going the speed of Usain Bolt. The brain 99% of the time keeps you under control but if it comes the time where it thinks you (or someone else) is going to die it will remove those limits to guarantee survival. If you look into these stories of people picking up cars, quite a bit of the time they do have their muscles severely injured because of it.
That’s actually a big part of strength training. A lot of it obviously is building more muscle, but often when you experience plateaus, what’s happening is that your brain is keeping you from tapping into more strength. It’s estimated that an untrained human may use only up to 45% of their strength, but through training, an athlete may be able to safely use up to 65% of their bodies total strength
@@11jeransthat and the way people do strength training matters a lot. I've worked with people (blue collar) stronger than some body builders ive seen, and they just look like a normal person. there's a whole lot to the way people gain muscle that matters more than how much they have
I read an account of a mountain climber having a 2,000+ lb chunk of cliff face break off and fall down on top of him. He more or less bench pressed the rock away from his body and dropped it down the mountain side. He tore both pectorals, some ab muscles, and some in his back. He laid there all night unable to move until climbers found him the next day.
I've seen people standing straight get zapped with electricity and the simple power of just their calf and ankles flexing at 100% send them a foot in the air.🤯
Those stories are fake
Donut is right on the money, it should have been an HBO series. Hollywood bought the name and then gave the fans the finger.
I was so happy to see Donut reveal the greatness of this book to the masses, go read it - amazing anthology!!
Being a dad in any sort of apocalypse would be a nightmare, because not only am I responsible for my wife and kids, I’m the one who has to deal with the threats of everything out there, not to mention exterior cleanup, and that’s going to be a pain in and of itself
The most difficult part even after you've contained the outbreak would just be the sheer number of unaccounted zombies. Like random zombies hiding in the woods, in basements, buried in rubble, at the bottom of the ocean.
Fat Electrician talking about people fighting for zombie rights reminds me of Monster Hunter Memoirs an amazing trilogy. also now I have to go read world war Z thanks Donut!
He also accidentally described what canonically happened IN the walking dead universe
Do it, JUST DO IT, you Will LOVE the Battle for Hope City
It's a good book, and I LOVE the audiobook. Full cast and fully voice acted.
The audio book is narrated by a bunch of different different actors representing different characters (yes, that is the voice of Luke Skywalker!) Read the book to get the gist, but to get the full affect you gotta listen to the audiobook. It's awesome!
@lkeke35 the part that got me was Arthur Sinclair Junior being voiced by Alan Alda. I grew up watching M*A*S*H, so I recognized him instantly.
I Am Legend is another one. Depends on whether or not you consider it a “zombie” movie. The book is VERY different from the movie.
And way more terrifying.
The book is fantastic but the movie is incredibly subpar
I am legend movie has a alternate ending.
I can't watch that movie again, since he had to kill his dog. 😢
Nerdy as fuck fungus fact, but the largest organism on earth is a honey fungus colony in the PNW. It just kept cloning itself until its current size which is around 2400 acres
It’s true.
There are large forests of Aspen trees in the Western US that are all off-shoots of the same tree. They share a common root system.
In fairness, I really can't tell the difference between a zombie and a liberal arts student or politician. lol
The worst part about the movie is that Max Brooks poured a great deal of effort into creating his world only for the film makers to shit all over it.
The reason why the zombies became such a threat in the books was:
1) It spread so quickly that by the time people started to even hear about it it had basically went global. There was basically zero hope of containing it.
2) In the world of WWZ, it's best to assume that there was no zombie media, at least not anything current or mainstream. So no one had any idea of what zombies even were or how to deal with them.
3) There was a lot of misinformation coming out from the Government and Media (shocker, I know), who were trying to keep the populous calm and the system functional. There was some logic to this (if the system breaks down it makes it that much harder to contain the problem), but this meant that most people didn't know what was coming. They just thought it was a new strain of rabies, thus no big deal.
4) Even with all of that, society was still semi-functional (there were major outbreaks, but outside of the immediate area people were still largely living their lives). Things didn't breakdown fully until the Battle of Yonkers, where the military absolutely failed to deal with the zombies in catastrophic fashion. Remember, they didn't know about zombies at all, so they fought in the conventional way, for example, soldiers are trained to go for center mass, but to kill a zombie you have to go for the head. This caused some serious panic among soldiers when they "killed" a zombie only for it to get back up. Also, with the few head shots, not all of them necessarily penetrated the skull, thus leading to the zombie getting back up. This also fueled panic. With the defeat at Yonkers, which sort of acted like a Battle of Yarmuk moment, causing the government to retreat to the West coast and form a perimeter at the Rockies to hold back the hordes.
It should be noted that Max Brooks is distinctly anti-military, or at least Anti-Military-Industrial Complex. He is a lefty politically and it gets pretty obvious.
Nowadays, he would be seen as a moderate rightoid. Oh how the times have changed.
I'd like to add on that the zombies in the book, whenever they saw you that would start moaning and wouldn't stop. If they saw you they also wouldn't stop pursuing you, it's why they had to have the psychologists in with the square formation whenever they started taking back America because the human mind can only deal with that moaning and killing so many people even if they are zombies.
I appreciate that Max Brooks made the zombies more than a physical threat and also a psychological threat to the population which a lot of zombie stuff nowadays in my opinion misses the mark for and also that zombies just never stopped pursuing you.
These guys should play Project Zomboid if they think that just going out and wacking or shooting the slow zombies is something that would be easy to pull off.
I hate to be that guy, but "populous" is an adjective, "populace" is the noun.
The book points out that you don't just gotta shoot them in the head. You gotta destroy the brain enough to stop the zombie. There's a whole chapter where shit goes tits up because someone got a headshot but the bullet just scraped the brain and everyone freaked out that headshots don't work.
That's Yonkers, some grunt panicked (probably the FNG) didnt aimed properly, Zombie went on ,gran him and the all went to hell after everybody else got to see that Guy get devoured
@@jackhammertwo1 "net-fucking-centric warfare", if ever there was a buzzword that I hated more it was that... fear renders a man inoperable, fear kills a man. and all the brass and politicians gave fear the quickest way to spread throughout an entire military force like wildfire.
@@NotoriusBEN1 Yeah, that mixed with the whole "Yeah lets fucking set a last stand in a stationary position with trenches for tanks right in the middle of the street against a literal ocean of zombies instead of setting a killzone from elevated positions" Yonkers man, the chapter everyone goes on and on ,"This is why soldiers wont last for shit against supernatural stuff" Give me a break, and read the Hope chapter, Donut literary mentions It, soldiers using Napoleonic Warfare tactics with semiauto rifles,going for headshots,using heavy Metal and K9 units on purpose as bait cleared a city IN A SINGLE DAY, zero cassualties.
@@jackhammertwo1 true. but the initial engagement at yonkers had everything going against it. old world mentality, old world tactics, old world leadership. im pretty sure a few generals and colonels told the politicians ''go fuck yourselves'' to the tactics being brought out, but those politicians still had enough perceieved power to say ''our rules of engagement, or you are shitcanned and we'll find someone who will do what we want''
you needed to have the fat trimmed out of the military to get actual competent leadership in place that could tell a politician to shove off or give him a gun and march to the front lines if he was so sure of what he said was right.
after yonkers, yea. sergeants, lieutenants and privates would have said, 'yah no. i don't care what a politician says, im doing this now, and if they have a problem we can talk about it out here'
@@NotoriusBEN1 and then you have the Russians that literally went "Stalingrad 2.0 lets fucking go"
I don't want to be that Guy... But Donut is wrong, It wasnt Metallica, but Iron Maiden.
I don't want to be that guy, but Donut is wrong. It was Iron Maiden, not Metallica.
Just wanted to make you comment easier to read.
@@theplayernkc Apreciated, English is not exactly my first language.
The Crazies was a fucking wild “zombie” movie too. They kept using weapons and communicating making them hard to discern
They werent Zombies in that movies
Romero was a G for that one!
8:55 I believe Roanoke Gaming covered this on his video.
My thoughts exactly
0:23 “I know you have a sleeve but I didn’t know what it was”........💯😂
@ 8:46, worse than running zombies? PARKOUR ZOMBIES! I'm going to go buy some bleach now.
Oh f**k, that STRONGLY brought back images of the Cloverfield 'babies' attacking people in the New York subway. How are we the dominant species again? Mommyyyyy !!! 😂😉
I mean, have you seen Dying Light
@@wyvern_wolf2821 dying light 1 night tho
the moment i heard it was being made into a movie i said "if they make this one of those "IVE GOT TO GET BACK TO MY WIFE!!!" movies i will lose my fucking shit" and then they did that
and the wife was the worst part of the movie
The Book: first hand accounts of survivors from around the world
The Movie: Brad Pitt, humanity’s savior
In Larry Correia and John Ringo's Monster Hunter Memoirs trilogy, the main character's mom is a college professor who supports unnatural creature's rights (vampires, werewolves, etc.).
The two problems I have with A Quiet Place is: who tends the farm? The corn is immaculately weed free. Who planted it? Who weeds it? How do they pick it? If they weren't going to harvest it, why bother planting it? Also, when the creatures are breaking and tearing things, they're making more noise than what anyone around them are making, they can use the noise the creatures are making breaking stuff and tearing things up as a mask to get away from them. Even if you stepped on a stick, the creature breaking glasses and knocking over things would just think it was him or another creature breaking stuff. Plus, guns are loud, if the creatures' hearing was so good, a gunshot would deafen them and make them freak out.
A Quiet Place is an interesting movie based on the dumbest premise ever. When I watched the waterfall scene where the Office guy says to his kid: "Here we are safe because the creatures don't go for loud constant sounds". Why the heck don't they go live just by the waterfall, also a source of fresh water, where humanity craved to live and fought for throughout thousands of years? Also why didn't they pile up a crapton of ordnance near a deserted place, blow a horn, wait for as many of those creatures to show up and then blow them to smithereens?
It's amazing how the people most likely to die in that kind of situations are the ones who ultimately survived. Typical Hollywood "We are the good guys" bias.
@@Gearparadummies yeah it's a dumb premise, but have you seen "Bird Box"? lol
Nick’s head nod, then the “for sure you pansy” head nod to get that Busch latte tossed to him from off screen while the conversation continues is all the proof I need to accept that he is my spirit animal😂
The best zombie survival suit is a Canadian tuxedo... Go try to bite through denim.
Except the zombies aren't hindered by pain thresholds like humans and could probably tear through denim. It might break their jaw in the process, but it may very well be enough to puncture your flesh.
A well made gambeson and some chainmail would be great.
@@James_Bee Yup, and even if they can't tear the denim, there's still possibility of infection. If we're going by 28 Days Later rules (single drop of blood/saliva is enough), then even if the fabric hold, the pressure and friction of the biting can cause lacerations of the skin underneath, meanwhile they're soaking the fabric with infected blood and saliva that could potentially slip into the open wound.
Yeah, the WWZ book was pretty good. Especially the chapter when the Army guy talked about the failed Operation to wipe out millions zombies going over the bridge.
A book about a journalist interviewing survivors from around the world after a zombie outbreak got turned into a generic action movie about one man saving the world.
There was a zombie movie that had Arnold Schwarzenegger (don’t remember the name) but it was super good.
Basically there was a zombie outbreak, but it wasn’t really bad as it took several days for you to turn and when you did you were a slow rotting corpse. So people still had jobs, working 9-5, and the police were still doing their jobs as cops but now they were also the primary group for killing zombies in local towns.
Maggie.
Donut layin it down HARD 😂 The Walking Donut
“I agree. I agree. That one was one for the ages boys.”
The book was awesome! The WWZ book did what the movie failed to do. Them training dogs how to sniff out zombies, describing how they made a military line the whole size of the US to get rid of the zombies, and the adaptations/mutations of larger animals was great story telling. The book gets so many more details and shares so many unique perspectives it's crazy. It absolutely destroys the film.
The book is a post war retrospective by a war correspondent ten years after its over. It’s multiple vignettes of how different people survived it and how the world was changed.
I remember in the book the black market for organs totally fucking FLOPPED!!!! Rich dude from the States went to Guatemala or something to have a kidney replaced or something stupid and turns into a zombie. Cool shit in that book. Absolutely awesome, I think it’s required reading for FEMA or something lol
All because China tried to keep the new plague hush-hush. Then you had the damn media jump on the ‘African rabies’ hype and the fake cure which they road all the way till the grave during the Great Panic.
Electrician talking about college students like fighting for zombie rights reminds me of dead rising two how there was just a group of people just like saying zombies are people too and how in the DLC one of them literally gets bribed into releasing a bunch of zombies into the mall like it would help the cause or something like that.
In the book there were people who had psychotic breaks and started acting like zombies, frickin walking around with them and emulating their noises and movements and attacking normies. The powers that be started seeing cases of zombie on zombie violence and they were like HELL YEAH!!!! They’re turning on themselves, but then they figured out there were some nutty fuckers trying to fit in with them lol
The one apocalypse I feel is not so far fetched is the Last of Us one. Considering the infection is based off a real fungus nicknamed “zombie-ant fungus” the Ophiocordyceps unilateralis. What is really creepy about this fungus (and if I remember correctly this was also a detail they used in the Last of Us) is that it doesn’t take over your subconscious, just your muscles . Your conscious stays as your body is slowly taken over by the parasite. So you witness yourself chasing down a fellow human, kill, then eat them, and there is nothing you can do about it as you continue to slowly loose yourself to the infection.
it takes root in the brain and eats that first. it's more like a body snatcher
Reminds me how The Walking Dead fell off so hard after the first season when the director left. He said he was going to do a prologue with Sam Witwer, who was the soldier in the tank, to show how the Army was dealing with the zombie outbreak.
i remember after the first season i was like there's no way this doesnt go to 7 seasons no problem. i didnt realize 4 of those seasons would be shit
Frank Darabont.
He fought really hard to keep the absolute brutal ending of the book The Mist, in the film.
He is the only reason TWD exists and was railroaded by the studio.
@@James_Bee The Mist story just ends with them failing to find a way clear of the mist, and setting out for Hartford after believing they heard it mentioned on the radio. Darabont changed the ending and Stephen King apparently really liked it.
According to the Zombie Survival guide,
the zombies don’t generally actually smell bad because the virus keeps the bacteria that normally causes the “dead body” smell from doing its thing.
Just discovered you guys from "the algorithm". Enjoyed this clip. Big fan of Max Brooks and his books. Movie had nothing to do with the book - just the title. Would love to see an anthology-type series that follows each chapter (whether per episode or focus on a chapter per season).
Honest question about this clip's editing - and I am not sure if this is a regular thing on your shows and/or clips. I noticed that at times (specifically during the statement at 10:28) some of the language was censored (muted out) but not always. This is not a complaint or criticism - I don't mind the language - it's real talk in today's society. I am simply curious if this was an intentional editorial decision or if there is some RUclips language quota or threshold that was crossed and some of the language needed to be omitted to prevent some kind of suppression.
Again, this is a BTS technical question, not a commentary on what was said or what was muted. Just trying to understand the decision making process here.
If you would prefer not to address it, I completely understand and apologize for bringing it up.
Look forward to viewing additional content from your channel. (liked & subscribed)
The 28 days later infection is so hopeless. A single drop of blood in any cut, or open hole or a single bite/scratch and you are fucked in seconds. You wouldn't even really have time to off yourself if push came to shove. Shit's terrifying
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Fun story. Boot camp people are running and some jackass has his booger hook on the trigger and sends a round next to my brother's foot 😂 "well no blood, we good. Keep running!"
booger hook?! im not going to admit how many times i read that until i understood what the hell that was 😅
Fake news. The only time boot trainees have live ammunition is at the range, on the firing line. What you are describing is a negligent discharge - it’s a very big deal and wouldn’t have been shrugged off.
The blind Japanese man was my favorite part
Oh Donut - I feel your f'ing pain brother!
The most realistic apocalypse movie scenario is with out a doubt the scenario that plays out in the movie: The Road.
That is a scenario that truly frightens me.
Book. Under A Graveyard Sky, John Ringo. LOL Love this damn zombie apocalypse.
Not just running "zombies," but naked ones. Love the series, the way they deal with it, and the characters, however, no matter how great Faith is, she is the biggest suspension of belief
The battle for Yonkers art is crazy. The only thing I thought is bombs would’ve been dropped from the get go. I don’t think there was an emphasis on waiting for air support to use thermobaric but that would’ve made more sense. Either way one of the coolest craziest zombie vs military stories
The soldier in the book going from the failure of Yonkers, being pushed back to California and then the push back across the country was freaking amazing! That alone would’ve been its own good Netflix series
Also in the case of North Korea the entire population vanished and no one knows weather there are 20 million zombies in a bunker complex or if the people they are under a even more totalitarian regime underground.
What no one thinks about in the movie 28 days later is that the “zombies” we’re not zombies at all. They were just regular humans filled with the rage virus. They would’ve died much sooner than 28 days they would’ve died within a week due to dehydration and exposure. As all humans would if deprived of water.
Hahaha Eli's kid puts the headphones on the monster because it's autistic to and it clams him down I'm dieing 🤣🤣🤣
From a military standpoint the best Zombie books are: DJ Molles The Remaining series, WJ Lundy WTF & new comer Shane Gries The Thin Dead Line
The "Nick Happy" moment was hilarious!😂😆
That dude does not realize how heavy medieval plate armor is. You’re not “running around for hours” booping zombies on the head.
It isn't light, but it isn't as heavy as you would think. I don't think you'd be running around all day either, but it is lighter and more agile than anything hollywood has put out.
A motion picture wouldn't work for WWZ. It should have been a mini-series.
The golgi apparatus is the main limiting factor when it comes to maximizing muscle exertion, basically when your body notices that an impulse is super fucking strong, it will flat out shut down the muscle for a bit (buckling)
Athletes spend years doing things like plyometrics to not just build the infrastructure (tendons and ligaments mostly) but also slowly override the apparatus (things like seated jumps and kneeling jumps are really good examples)
Neural pathways have more to do with muscle coordination during specific motions, thinking how a person who squats a lot will end up squatting more (mixing heavy and light days) than a person who only squats heavy less frequently as they get more and more used to that motion neurally speaking (the "strength is skill" adage)
And I mean you can see that overriden strength in crackheads mostly, but its also shines a light into Olympian weightlifters in the lighter weight classes being able to lift upwards of 3 or 4+ times their bodyweight
The Walking Dead did have a Woke protestor...Hershel refused to harm the dead, thinking they were just sick or crazy or something. In the graphic novel and the show, this does not work out well.
Women: I bet he’s cheating on me.
Group of men: realistically talking about zombie apocalypse scenarios
Donut... 100% accurate. It's my second favorite book ever. I know if you have Brad Pitt, you're going to use Brad Pitt in every scene. But we lost so much in that D-tier movie.
@DonutOperator always liked you! But this World War Z rant is amazing... You are 100% right they did that book dirty. Have you ever read a book called Breathers? Its not World War Z vibes but its a great zombie book that was destroyed by a movie trying to be it. I need to find a pick of your sleeve now. Thanks for this talk...
For all who are wondering who the "doctor" was that they mentioned breaking down how certain zombie viruses would effect us and how it could be possible....
Is Roanoke gaming, not actually a doctor but he did study molecular biology, his videos are loads of fun would highly recommend.
I agree with Donut. World War Z was the most awesome book. The story where they talk about the military standoff in Yonkers, NY against the zombie horde walking out of New York city. The tanks fire at the horde, and it has very little impact, because they're dry husks, so explosions down just cause nearby bodies to blow up from the concussion wave.
I wish Nick was a college profesor so I could major in history just attend his classes. Dude is brilliant!
In the book they played Iron Maiden's The Trooper on Stadium Speakers to draw the zombies to the firing line. And they had abandoned modern military rifles and were using old WWII rifles because the larger caliber rounds would blow their heads apart while modern ammo would sometimes pass right through their head and not do enough damage to stop them.
Wrong on WW2 rifles, the SIR was described more like a modular rifle that could go from rifle, carbine to sniper rifle by switching barrels.
I can picture it now “Living Impairment Awareness Month! Everyone wear a special ribbon to show you support and donate to Undead Lives Matter!”
But seriously though it’s ironically become more social commentary with zombies over the years, as the “zombie rights” idea has been tossed around. Like in the original Dawn of the Dead, when Roger and Peter discover the zombies being hoarded in the apartment building that they just raided with their SWAT units. Albeit that was for more religious/respect reasons as to why the tenants did it, it’s still kinda the same. This is also shown in The Walking Dead with Herschels barn. Considering the Romero verse influenced Rob Kirkman it’s very fitting. In TWD they didn’t know what a zombie is much in the same way Night of the Living Deads characters didn’t either. In Fear the Walking Dead it had people in the early stages rioting over what they mistakenly thought was police just gunning down innocents when they were trying to contain the walkers.
So the idea has definitely been on the radar in one form or another lol
World War Z movie should have been called World War Brad Pitt. That's why it was not as great as the book.
What is most irritating about WWZ the movie is that Edward Norton and Brad Pitt fought over the rights to produce the movie, (well, they're respective production companies at least).
Had they named the movie ANYTHING else, I could have maybe been on board despite some of the dumb writing in it.
WWZ the book is amazing! And deserves justice in an adaptation!
Fungus is power, which is exactly why we should rid the Fun Guys.
“Even I’ll give communism credit for that!” 😂😂😂 The absolute Most TFE quote ever 😂😂😂
Realistically a slow zombie apocalypse wouldnt be that hard to contain. The military/national guard always gets nerfed for a reason because they'd solve the problem themselves. Something like 28 Days Later is a whole different matter. Even if the militaries of the world fixed it most of the human population would likely be dead by that point.
Read the Book in highschool and fell in love with it, I even purchased both of Max Brooks Zombie Survival Guide's as well because I was such a huge fan of WWZ. (both are pretty decent too)
Once I heard there was going to be a movie I was stoked, then the trailer dropped, saw the Olympic Sprinting zeds along with one Main Character and immediately knew they went off the rails with the entire film.
Sad that the only reference we get from the book is the black tar blood (as a small mention for the first infected), the nukes and North Korea going dark.
2 of which were in the same scene.
Like cmon, not even The Battle of Yonkers?
One of the best explanations on how a military operation could fail in a fictional zombie apocalypse and it wasn't even mentioned in film, one thing I loved in the book was how the US Military transitioned from a Gun toting technological power house, to a Melee Based Military by the end of the Zed Wars.
(Recently listened to the audio book for the first time and recognized Luke Skywalker as the voice of the Army Grunt, thought that was cool.)
World War Z is one of the best geo political handbooks you can read. Replace "Zombie" with any other issue and it still holds up for the most part.
Donut Operator matching me completely on World War Z
The accidental self deletion n in Z is funny, but Kevin Costner taking a shovel to Dane Cooks face in Mr. Brooks (a fantastic film) is just GOLD.
The part in the book outside Vegas when they play trooper is the best part in any book.
D-nut Opp has slowly become my favorite. I forgot how fucking good that book was. He needs to bring the duck noise to Unsub, lol.
John Ringo's Dark Tide Rising series. Armor works. Also.... Abrams tank vs infected....
The thing with slow zombies is that if someone gets bit they wont always want to tell others they've been bit and then that can sneakily propagate the zombie affliction.
I think the “Doctor” you were speaking about is a micro-biologist whose channel is called Roanoke Gaming. He does not have a doctorate yet though. I know he has covered this virus on his channel.
I love the fact that I always hear criticism of the book (World War Z) of how incompetent the military is portrayed in it, and yet every time I talk to an actual veteran that read it, they say, "No, that's the exact kind of incompetence you would see."
1:40 Cody sat there boiling 😅
World War Z An Oral History Of The Zombie War, that sounds like what he's talking about
The audiobook had an Ensemble voice cast too that included Martin Scorsese, Simon Pegg , Frank Darabont (Walking Dead Show), Mark Hamill voiced a Veteran of The Battle of Yonkers and Henry Rollins voiced a Mercenary hired by the Hollywood Elite.
There was a movie made in 1989 called The Dead Next Door where there are people protesting for zombie rights.
The lack of respect towards how much of a threat a true zombie horde is exactly what causes them to spread in the first place.
The audible of wwz is amazing!
the wind would just knock them down here in wyoming lol. 70-90+ mph winds. I wouldnt be to worried here lol. The I am Legend zombies would be creepy as heck
That guy saying he can easily kill 100 zombies swarming up to him would be the first to die. Overconfidence would kill him for sure.
Eh, the book had it's own problems. For one the Battle of Yonkers was BS and the rules the zombies worked by were inconsistent.
There's no way a zombie would be able to withstand munitions powerful enough to turn a tree into splinters. Especially when they're shown to die from a car petrol tank exploding.
World War Z should have been the "Citizen Kane" of zombie movies. I mean that literally. The style of investigation and telling of each characters' history to form a story shaped by their own interaction in a zombie plague.
Women: I bet he’s out cheating on me.
These guys: what if zombies
Agreed!! The book was visceral and brilliant.