2011 was Mark Henry's best year. And it was damn good. Problem was it was far too late for him. I thought Hall of Pain should have happened 5-10 years prior.
Wade Barrett was on the verge of breaking through multiple times, particularly with the Barrett Barrage era, but he kept getting injured at the worst possible time
Almost didn’t happen. AJ Styles loved TNA and still had a soft spot in his heart for the company and in 2015 when he was done with NJPW he was in talks with Impact about coming back to the company, he only had two stipulations, 1. He wanted a world title run, and 2. He wanted Luke gallows and Karl Anderson there with him. The original idea was that AJ, Anderson, and Gallows would randomly show up one ppv and attack the current champ and put the roster on notice that AJ was back in Impact and with the club would dominate the company and win the world title and tag titles and basically do in Impact what the club did in Japan and realistically at that time period it could’ve brought eyes back to the company. But AJ says just before he signed he got a call from Triple H and Triple H offered him more money than Impact could and he debuted in the rumble that year.
@@thehorrorhound6575 insane how things work out. AJ really was a generational talent. I hope before he retires, he gets one last world title run in Impact/WWE.
2016 smackdown was so good and it was headed by aj styles. calling tna roster bad when it had guys like aj samoa joe and perc angle, its just ridiculous.
i remember that i would watch game shows like catchphrase and then tna would come on, i never properly got into it though cause anything non wwe was alien to a younger me lol
I think you were a bit harsh on Seamus, especially in the light of his recent work with the Brawling Brutes, watch his match with Gunther at Clash of the Castle and say you don't buy him as a monster. He always had that smash-mouth wrestling style too, it's just that a lot of his 2010s character stuff was a bit corny to say the least, outside of his team with Cesaro as "The Bar", which was excellent They were leaning too much into the "jolly Irish" stereotype. Ever since he's essentially been playing Brad Pitt in Snatch, he's been superb. And if long term roster value is what you're basing this on, he's been a legitimate upper-mid to upper carder for over a decade and a key draw on European tours - can't ask for much more than that
Wrestling has been in total hell for yeaaaaars and still as of today. Aew, wwe, indies right now are all shit. Thnk god we can watch old stuff on the internet
That’s the only reason 2011 wwe was good to me, looking back I can’t believe I would watch that garbage fire every week but it was fun when I was a kid😂
People were shitting on it when he came in, but he just did what slapnuts does, got everyone booing. Enjoyed him and Lethal together, enjoyed Lethal more since Jarrett came in to which surprised me
@@Markyd123 you seem to be a bigger Jarrett fan than a Hogan fan at this point. It's like you become secretly happy whenever the wild Slap Nuts appears
I personally don't or didn't mind Goldust. He just sorta belonged in the WWE. Kinda like that one weird friend in your friend group that still watches wrestling. Oh fck thats me.
Jarrett is a massive plus to AEW and someone they sorely needed, say what you will but he has a fantastic wrestling mind and brought much needed sense to that company.
As someone who was watching TNA since 05 The roster they had at this point was 🔥🔥🔥Hogan & Bischoff Politics ruined something that could’ve really been great smfh
it took a hot minute, but at least WWE finally figured out what Wade Barrett could be. I can still go back and watch a Bad News Barrett promo and genuinely laugh, and his matches were good and believable. He could get heel heat and babyface pops by 2014. He seems perfectly suited for commentary these days too, glad they were able to put that together. Definitely didn't realize how loaded TNA was in 2011 though. Damn.
Chris Jericho said it best “WWE can pretend all they want that TNA wasn’t competition but if TNA wasn’t really competition to WWE they wouldn’t be buying every single guy who got over as soon as they could to keep the company from getting any bigger.”
2011 Mark Henry was Hall of Pain Mark Henry, that was a great run watching Mark just tear shit up, and since he was mostly feuding with Daniel Bryan the matches were certain passable.
Doug Williams, what a wrestler. Never got over in NA but an absolute legend in Europe. He could hang with anyone, had a killer finisher (Rolling German Suplex) and could play Face/Heel equally well. He could make the greenest wrestler look good, which he had to do a fair bit in TNA. Basically, He was the UKs Lance Storm, never the headline but you could count his bad matches without taking your socks off.
God. I've been rewatching some TNA stuff from 10+ years ago, and I miss this so much. I love TNA today sure, but the difference between current TNA and back then is unreal.
As someone who was 11/12 in 2011, I loved wwe around this time. There was a reason why wwe was like this at the time. The kids enjoyed it and the ratings were good as streaming services weren't popular yet. WWE had the stars like Cena and Orton and a prime TV slot. I always knew TNA had some insane rosters over the years but I didn't realize how stacked their roster truly was at this time. It's amazing how they fucked it all up. Imagine if they had never tried competing with wwe and instead focused on marketing themselves. They would be what AEW is today if not more so. The same fanbase who loves aew now were watching TNA instead of wwe. AJ leaving for New Japan killed TNA. NJPW was doing amazing things around this time and AJ becoming the leader of the most popular faction in wrestling and the world champ for the number 1 promotion in Japan made 10s of 1000s stop watching tna to watch New Japan. Any more casual fan of tna would slowly get out of wrestling or watch wwe which was way more consistent than tna was in the late Hogan years
Great going back down memory lane! Kane was still making it happen as a monster in 2011. Winning world championships ig in big mistaking. He’s always put people over but still able to get wins when they count.
Every time I remember Kazuchika Okada, one of the greatest wrestlers to ever live and the current best wrestler in the world was in TNA at this time with a ridiculous gimmick, I can't help but laugh. And I love Chris Sabin, I'm sad he never really got the level of prominence I think he deserved. Also, you showed a picture of Tama Tonga when you were referring to Tanga Loa/Camacho. And Tama Tonga is great... Tanga Loa is great with Tama Tonga... :P
Knowing what we know now, I think Okato was ultimately good for Okada, in spite of how bad the character was, because it helped him learn to becomeore charismatic, and he used the experience to go from a solid hand to the Rainmaker.
Hey I love this entire series. Could you do an episode of Lucha Underground vs. TNA? All the wrestlers during Lucha underground in 2017. Many crossover wrestlers from TNA went to Lucha underground. I would also like an indepth showcase of lucha underground if its possible. I really enjoy this channel and I think you could do a funny story about that show.
I heard a podcast with Eric Bischoff where he not only admitted to writing the Claire Lynch storyline and the segment where Dixie Carter was hanging onto Hulk Hogan begging him not to leave but he was seemingly happy with those storylines. I think that might have had something to do with it LOL. Not that what WWE was doing at the time was at all compelling
@@Markyd123 Russo and Bischoff ultimately had the same problem: they had a diarrhea of ideas and concepts, with a fraction of them being good, and had no clue on how to pay any of them off.
27:30 they wanted to push Ted Jr so badly in 2011 they even made him really OP in his first videogame appearance (WWE All-Stars), they literally gave him every single tool needed to be good in that game
I really liked this video you have put together, showcasing the once greatness TNA/Impact was. Now, it sucks and I can barely get through watching it, most of the shit I have to skip through and watch the main stuff but even that still is no good. I miss these times when they had a huge and great roster and actually drew big crowds!
I know you were trying to argue a point in favor of TNA but you gave the benefit of the doubt to a lot more of their wrestlers for what they eventually did rather than who they were in 2011. With WWE, it was like you said they sucked at that point so not good. It's like to credit a Mick Foley in TNA and less so the Undertaker in WWE is sort of silly.when we know that what Taker brought to the company was much more valuable than what Foley was doing And I can't believe I'm defending WWE when I haven't watched more than occasional clips or very rarely matches in 20 years and watched TNA weekly in 2011
As a TNA fan talking about TNA it's a good video, as a comparison video, it's pretty biased as a lot of people in WWE in 2011, went on to do decent to really good stuff. Even the Bellas made the argument for giving Women a shot in WWE got the company to look more at the girls they had down in NXT, but their problem is that they still represent the Divas Era that people kind of prefer to forget, and would have decent matches before they retired.
I think wwe nxt does deserve a credit because a lot of good talent and strong roster was build around in later years 2011 was kinda peek pg era so they were catering really casual and small audience
It had the real star power to be considered alternative to mainstream wwe The content or the storyline? No But oh boy that is an impressive list of main eventers
I wasn't watching wrestling during this time. For a while, I loathed Sheamus and how much he was pushed and featured on WWE when I started watching again. It wasn't until his team with Cesaro, The Bar that I began to enjoy watching Sheamus' matches. His rivalry with Gunther (aka Walter) and both of their factions last year was really, really good.
I disagree with you on Mark Henry. I started watching WWE in late 2011 and totally hated him for the best reasons. That Hall of Pain gimmick made him totally beliveble and to 12 year old me that barely knew anything about wrestling out of WWE videogames, I was completely sold on Mark Henry being one of the biggest threats on the show at the time. In 2011 he had star power. I think him and Sheamus could be included, although Sheamus's push only came in 2012.
Kind of like the WCW roster in 1997-1999, Hogan, Sting, Bret Hart, Goldberg, Nash, Hall, Steiner, Savage, DDP, The Giant, Luger, and a lot of guys who would be huge like Benoit, Guerrero, and Booker T. But it doesn’t matter if you don’t know how to book them all correctly and use your roster to its fullest potential.
Tna’s roster was really Overlooked back in ‘11 maybe because of all the 💩 on T.V but that’s really the roster I got used to an they really did help captivate this generation of performers
Agreed only good thing from that year I remember is Kane remasking cause that was when I got back into WWE after stopping in 2009 and even his remasking wasn’t done right imo
Yeah, 2011 is a very average year, but I really liked the year from 2012 to 2014, in fact, until 2020 I thought the product was cool, then it started to decline until the regime change, this change was so good that my love of sport is back
this was predominantly the wrestling I watched, abyss was so cool, Robert Roode was so believable, the motor city machine guns, the cruiser weights especially, and AUSTIN ARIES.
When WWE kept teasing the Brodus Clay re-debut in 2011 with Lars Sullivan-esque promos I was pumped as a kid. I was IMMEDIATELY deflated when I waited that long for a dancing gimmick. His debut is actually what allowed me to talk my parents into letting me start watching RAW because they thought that show was still like the attitude era😂😂😂😂
I will say about Sheamus, since the start of his WWE career before The Bar with Cesaro i didnt rate him either. But ever since his team with Cesaro, i started to like him more and more and you can tell im not the only one if you listen how the fans react to him and respect him nowadays.
I've never had a problem believing Sheamus could beat the absolute crap out of nearly anyone else. Yes, he had a strange look but it made him stand out and it was never a detriment to him in his career. Sheamus was still a 6'5" 250-ishlb Irish ass-kicker who has a great ability to control the crowd as either Heel or Face, or even Tweener. His The Bar run and his initial run were amazing and I still rate him highly nowadays as a solid hand who is great in any division be it Main-event, or Tag or even mid-card. If you are still not sold on him, check out any of his matches against Drew McIntyre, Gunther or Daniel Bryan (Minus the Wrestlemania 15-second debacle)
Tbh at one point in the rumble this year, I looked who was in the ring and was like “my god, the talent and star power in the ring at the moment is insane, it’s just their mid carders rn. Got into TNA when Joe was running the X division. Was insanely stacked until they went 4 sided. But even now a days, they get stacked sometimes
Here's another idea for a "Was It Any Good?" video: The Filthy Animals in WCW. They were mostly seen as a rip-off of D-Generation X, but I don't see the connection personally. They were a faction that had a Latino Gangster Rap essence to it, had Konnan as the leader, and had some good intros one of which was done by Konnan and Madd 1, but apart from that, I don't know if they had any good backstage moments, any good matches/feuds, or any memorable promos. And it was at a time when WCW was the absolute pits, so it could be a good topic to do a "Was It Any Good?"
Also I so wanted their in game character in Suicide to work, cause honestly. You look at how that started, it started off so well, and they did it so good. But then it went crap. Can't believe how they dropped the ball on that.
TNA Impact was far from perfect in 2011 but damn they had a stacked roster with a mix of legends, top future stars of the business and solid midcarders. This is why they were more enjoyable at times than WWE around this period.
Part of the problem with the TNA roster at this time was how many of the main event guys had really plied their trade in WWE already. The top wrestler in the company was Kurt Angle and he wasn't born and bred in TNA, he developed in WWE and Paul Heyman was the guy who saw his potential as ECW was going to sign him at one point and so when Paul Heyman joined WWE and basically became a creative member of Smackdown, Kurt Angle was pushed as a main eventer. The other top wrestlers weren't really TNA guys as well in fact the only main eventer that was a TNA guy was AJ Styles. I would call Ring of Honor developed guys also TNA guys because they probably got more popular as a result of wrestling in TNA, for example Samoa Joe(he was a Ring of Honor main eventer.) I think that is the criticism of the TNA roster at this time, not that it was legitimately bad, but the fact they relied on former wrestlers from other companies rather than building their own talent). I would also make a pretty accurate comparison. ECW in its entire run had many of its main eventers developed at ECW and it was only when they became developed that they moved ship to other companies. Basically they would've languished in the lower end of the rosters of the companies they were at if ECW hadn't taken them in. But guys like Cactus Jack(Mick Foley) he became more prolific after his ECW move and WWE pushed him even further and gave him a title. New Jack(yes he was actually well used and became an ECW mainstay and developed talent who was a big tag team division hardcore wrestler) Sabu and Rob Van Dam(both ECW developed talent who put on great matches). Like you could say Rey Mysterio was technically an ECW talent who ended up being developed by WCW. So when you look at how much ECW home grown talent existed in the company, it is disappointing that TNA never really replicated that vibe.
Wish you'd stop hating on Rob Terry... He's never taken steroids, due to only having one kidney. He's officially 100% natural, and though he's not achieved anything in Wrestling, he's gone on to win Mr Olympia, which is pretty awesome.
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Just to be clear my main point was TNA had 15+ guys they could realistically put in the main event in 2011. That to me is OP!
I noticed you didn’t talk about Suicide is this a sign that your finally gonna make a video about the gimmick
That was the real reason the attitude era was better for wwe, they had about a dozen guys who could be a legit world champ.
u missed out how a lot of the back stage guys for tna in that period also worked for triple h in nxt, sonjay, borash, abyss, jj, plus a few more
Ok bookermannn
@@erEpicVideo daniels/kaz at that point
2011 was Mark Henry's best year. And it was damn good. Problem was it was far too late for him. I thought Hall of Pain should have happened 5-10 years prior.
They did push him hard in 06
@@rubberchix exactly he just got hurt.
when brock lesnar left in 2004 that wouldve been the best time for hall of pain
Wade Barrett was on the verge of breaking through multiple times, particularly with the Barrett Barrage era, but he kept getting injured at the worst possible time
Bad News Barrett was getting over until Vince killed it.
I miss this TNA. To me, the decline of TNA went hand in hand with the decline of wrestling in general.
Or hulk hogan lol
TnA had Slapnuts, that automatically made the roster stronger than any other roster in existence
That guy knows the way
Those pics of Haku's son were of two different sons... one bio, one adopted. The 2nd pic was of Tama Tonga not Tanga Loa/Camacho from WWE.
Together known as the Guerillas of Destiny.
Marky seems to think big in Japan doesn't mean anything
@@shadowandluigifan to be fair he admits that he's ignorant of the Japanese wrestling scene
Abyss is now working with WWE but in production.
The fact that any of those guys in the thumbnail could main event plus Bobby roode who’s missing is evidence enough!
It still amaze me that AJ would not only go to WWE but also win the WWE championship
Won it pretty fast too
Smackdown Live AJ styles was something else. God 2016 Smackdown was too good in general.
Almost didn’t happen. AJ Styles loved TNA and still had a soft spot in his heart for the company and in 2015 when he was done with NJPW he was in talks with Impact about coming back to the company, he only had two stipulations, 1. He wanted a world title run, and 2. He wanted Luke gallows and Karl Anderson there with him. The original idea was that AJ, Anderson, and Gallows would randomly show up one ppv and attack the current champ and put the roster on notice that AJ was back in Impact and with the club would dominate the company and win the world title and tag titles and basically do in Impact what the club did in Japan and realistically at that time period it could’ve brought eyes back to the company. But AJ says just before he signed he got a call from Triple H and Triple H offered him more money than Impact could and he debuted in the rumble that year.
@@thehorrorhound6575 insane how things work out. AJ really was a generational talent. I hope before he retires, he gets one last world title run in Impact/WWE.
2016 smackdown was so good and it was headed by aj styles. calling tna roster bad when it had guys like aj samoa joe and perc angle, its just ridiculous.
I liked Chris Masters. Had a good chemistry with Carlito as the comedy heels.
That team had a lot of potential
Their fued made no sense though.
Carlito kept screwing Masters over yet Carlito was the face and Masters was the heel.
He did nothing in 2011
Happy to see at last the "A wild slapnuts appears" in AEW.
The format of this vid is almost like the new & improved Hawk Hogan show, loved it
Funnily enough, this was the year I also stopped watching WWE till 2016, and that's because AJ Styles debuted.
2011 was when i started watching TNA regular on challenge in Scotland. Memories. 2014 is when I fell away from it though.
i remember that i would watch game shows like catchphrase and then tna would come on, i never properly got into it though cause anything non wwe was alien to a younger me lol
I think you were a bit harsh on Seamus, especially in the light of his recent work with the Brawling Brutes, watch his match with Gunther at Clash of the Castle and say you don't buy him as a monster. He always had that smash-mouth wrestling style too, it's just that a lot of his 2010s character stuff was a bit corny to say the least, outside of his team with Cesaro as "The Bar", which was excellent They were leaning too much into the "jolly Irish" stereotype. Ever since he's essentially been playing Brad Pitt in Snatch, he's been superb. And if long term roster value is what you're basing this on, he's been a legitimate upper-mid to upper carder for over a decade and a key draw on European tours - can't ask for much more than that
Wrestling is amazing right now. But man TNA was something else ♥
@Alex Valdez. Wrestling is awful right now
Wrestling is the pits right now and TNA's lack of success was the foreshadowing.
@@Breakfast_of_Champions wwe have been doing really great tbf with roman and sami storyline
@@harshpatil8585 But that’s the only thing that’s good. One good story doesn’t mean wrestling is great now.
Wrestling has been in total hell for yeaaaaars and still as of today. Aew, wwe, indies right now are all shit. Thnk god we can watch old stuff on the internet
Mark Henry was incredible in 2011 but yeah that roster is a lot weaker than I remembered it being
Fandango was surprisingly a giant draw around this time
I am a huge Kurt Angle fan so 2010's TNA is the best wrestling of that era to me.
To be fair, WWE in 2011 wasn't so bad if you were an 11 year old kid who just started watching wrestling and didn't know any better.
That’s true
That’s the only reason 2011 wwe was good to me, looking back I can’t believe I would watch that garbage fire every week but it was fun when I was a kid😂
Ya thanks to triple h who build a handful of talent in nxt so that wwe really became better in later years
Definitely me but i started in 2012
B be it it still outshined impact wrestling 😂😂😂🥹
You simply cannot mention Douglas Williams and not mention him hitting someone in the face with a brick
Controversial Opinion : Jeff Jarrett is actually doing entertaining work in AEW right now.
I believe you but it’s kinda my gimmick at this point
People were shitting on it when he came in, but he just did what slapnuts does, got everyone booing. Enjoyed him and Lethal together, enjoyed Lethal more since Jarrett came in to which surprised me
@@Markyd123 you seem to be a bigger Jarrett fan than a Hogan fan at this point. It's like you become secretly happy whenever the wild Slap Nuts appears
@@Markyd123 getting some clout off the back of the j-e-double f/ j-a-double r-e-double t. Haters gonna hate.
Commented separately but will on this thread their theme song with Lethals is class.
Hold up I need to see when John Cena talked about Amazing Red!!!???
I personally don't or didn't mind Goldust. He just sorta belonged in the WWE. Kinda like that one weird friend in your friend group that still watches wrestling.
Oh fck thats me.
Jarrett is a massive plus to AEW and someone they sorely needed, say what you will but he has a fantastic wrestling mind and brought much needed sense to that company.
As someone who was watching TNA since 05 The roster they had at this point
was 🔥🔥🔥Hogan & Bischoff Politics ruined something that could’ve really been great smfh
I was watching from the weekly PPVs. I was excited when Hogan showed up, but it went downhill quick after that…
it took a hot minute, but at least WWE finally figured out what Wade Barrett could be. I can still go back and watch a Bad News Barrett promo and genuinely laugh, and his matches were good and believable. He could get heel heat and babyface pops by 2014. He seems perfectly suited for commentary these days too, glad they were able to put that together.
Definitely didn't realize how loaded TNA was in 2011 though. Damn.
I love that you're a TNA guy cuz then I get to relive my bittersweet fandom through this channel. Thanks for it!
Chris Jericho said it best “WWE can pretend all they want that TNA wasn’t competition but if TNA wasn’t really competition to WWE they wouldn’t be buying every single guy who got over as soon as they could to keep the company from getting any bigger.”
2011 Mark Henry was Hall of Pain Mark Henry, that was a great run watching Mark just tear shit up, and since he was mostly feuding with Daniel Bryan the matches were certain passable.
How do you manage to have this as your roster and make TNA so lame?
The Hogan era was something else...
Hogan has helped destroy 3 companies, it's what he does.
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 3?!
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 3? I know of WWF CopyMachine Wrestling & Tits N' Ass, but what's the 3rd?
This roster was🔥🔥don’t care what anybody says
Doug Williams, what a wrestler. Never got over in NA but an absolute legend in Europe. He could hang with anyone, had a killer finisher (Rolling German Suplex) and could play Face/Heel equally well. He could make the greenest wrestler look good, which he had to do a fair bit in TNA. Basically, He was the UKs Lance Storm, never the headline but you could count his bad matches without taking your socks off.
God. I've been rewatching some TNA stuff from 10+ years ago, and I miss this so much. I love TNA today sure, but the difference between current TNA and back then is unreal.
As someone who was 11/12 in 2011, I loved wwe around this time. There was a reason why wwe was like this at the time. The kids enjoyed it and the ratings were good as streaming services weren't popular yet. WWE had the stars like Cena and Orton and a prime TV slot.
I always knew TNA had some insane rosters over the years but I didn't realize how stacked their roster truly was at this time. It's amazing how they fucked it all up. Imagine if they had never tried competing with wwe and instead focused on marketing themselves. They would be what AEW is today if not more so. The same fanbase who loves aew now were watching TNA instead of wwe.
AJ leaving for New Japan killed TNA. NJPW was doing amazing things around this time and AJ becoming the leader of the most popular faction in wrestling and the world champ for the number 1 promotion in Japan made 10s of 1000s stop watching tna to watch New Japan. Any more casual fan of tna would slowly get out of wrestling or watch wwe which was way more consistent than tna was in the late Hogan years
This is a really cool video, would love more of these roster breakdowns from over the years
I stopped watching WWE after Eddie and Chris died and I started watching TNA cause Samoa Joe and AJ Styles had me hooked
Eric Young was TNA version of Daniel Bryan with the beard and they even put the World title on him in 2014 during the height of the Yes Movement 🤨
It’s crazy to think that most of the guys/girls are still wrestling for either TNA, WWE and now AEW or in big indies like GCW or NWA
I'm not a Slap Nut fan but his heel work has been GREAT! Both in AEW and the Flair retirement thing!
Great going back down memory lane! Kane was still making it happen as a monster in 2011. Winning world championships ig in big mistaking. He’s always put people over but still able to get wins when they count.
Every time I remember Kazuchika Okada, one of the greatest wrestlers to ever live and the current best wrestler in the world was in TNA at this time with a ridiculous gimmick, I can't help but laugh.
And I love Chris Sabin, I'm sad he never really got the level of prominence I think he deserved.
Also, you showed a picture of Tama Tonga when you were referring to Tanga Loa/Camacho. And Tama Tonga is great... Tanga Loa is great with Tama Tonga... :P
Knowing what we know now, I think Okato was ultimately good for Okada, in spite of how bad the character was, because it helped him learn to becomeore charismatic, and he used the experience to go from a solid hand to the Rainmaker.
It’s funny cause most the WWE guys named actually went to TNA/Impact after leaving WWE
Wade Barrett didn't happen because he was too injury prone
Hey I love this entire series. Could you do an episode of Lucha Underground vs. TNA? All the wrestlers during Lucha underground in 2017. Many crossover wrestlers from TNA went to Lucha underground. I would also like an indepth showcase of lucha underground if its possible. I really enjoy this channel and I think you could do a funny story about that show.
Can you do Chris Benoit 2007 matches to see if he still had it in his final year? On roh
You can say anything about Alicia Fox , but she had the best Northern Lights suplex in the business
Great content, do this for other years too comparing rosters etc would be cool to see
I heard a podcast with Eric Bischoff where he not only admitted to writing the Claire Lynch storyline and the segment where Dixie Carter was hanging onto Hulk Hogan begging him not to leave but he was seemingly happy with those storylines. I think that might have had something to do with it LOL. Not that what WWE was doing at the time was at all compelling
Can’t stand him. Blame him more than most people but Russo gets blamed more than Bischoff
@@Markyd123 Russo and Bischoff ultimately had the same problem: they had a diarrhea of ideas and concepts, with a fraction of them being good, and had no clue on how to pay any of them off.
27:30 they wanted to push Ted Jr so badly in 2011 they even made him really OP in his first videogame appearance (WWE All-Stars), they literally gave him every single tool needed to be good in that game
7:30 "he looked like a half squeezed tube of toothpaste" 😂
The TNA roster was fire even in those days' standard
I really liked this video you have put together, showcasing the once greatness TNA/Impact was. Now, it sucks and I can barely get through watching it, most of the shit I have to skip through and watch the main stuff but even that still is no good. I miss these times when they had a huge and great roster and actually drew big crowds!
Man I wish there was a great TNA video game with the entire roster included. Why they couldn't just clone an early Smackdown I don't know 😢
I know you were trying to argue a point in favor of TNA but you gave the benefit of the doubt to a lot more of their wrestlers for what they eventually did rather than who they were in 2011. With WWE, it was like you said they sucked at that point so not good. It's like to credit a Mick Foley in TNA and less so the Undertaker in WWE is sort of silly.when we know that what Taker brought to the company was much more valuable than what Foley was doing
And I can't believe I'm defending WWE when I haven't watched more than occasional clips or very rarely matches in 20 years and watched TNA weekly in 2011
31:11 it sucks they made Yoshitatsu a joke in the US because he's one of the most highly regarded junior heavyweight guys in Japan
Keep up the good work hawk love ur content shove it mannn
Abyss was working for WWE as a producer i believe so he has been making a good retirement for himself
Crimson now wrestling in NWA Powerrr as Anthony Mayweather, he their Nwa National Champion.
As a TNA fan talking about TNA it's a good video, as a comparison video, it's pretty biased as a lot of people in WWE in 2011, went on to do decent to really good stuff. Even the Bellas made the argument for giving Women a shot in WWE got the company to look more at the girls they had down in NXT, but their problem is that they still represent the Divas Era that people kind of prefer to forget, and would have decent matches before they retired.
I think wwe nxt does deserve a credit because a lot of good talent and strong roster was build around in later years 2011 was kinda peek pg era so they were catering really casual and small audience
NXT was ROH. NXT didn't make anything that wasn't already made somewhere else.
@@christophermarriott1681 until 2012, NXT was anything but ROH. The only people who came from ROH were booked like geeks in game show era NXT.
TNA'S roster in 2011 was not so bad much appreciated
You should review Mark Henry’s Hall of Pain run.
It just occurred to me that Abyss could've helped Abadon if they would've been the same era. It'd be a helluva pair!
13:41 MarkyD, you never disappoint! 😂😂😂
It had the real star power to be considered alternative to mainstream wwe
The content or the storyline?
No
But oh boy that is an impressive list of main eventers
“No one was tuning into see Brodus Clay” meanwhile ten year old me screaming “somebody call my mama” when his theme woild come on
I wasn't watching wrestling during this time. For a while, I loathed Sheamus and how much he was pushed and featured on WWE when I started watching again. It wasn't until his team with Cesaro, The Bar that I began to enjoy watching Sheamus' matches. His rivalry with Gunther (aka Walter) and both of their factions last year was really, really good.
I disagree with you on Mark Henry. I started watching WWE in late 2011 and totally hated him for the best reasons. That Hall of Pain gimmick made him totally beliveble and to 12 year old me that barely knew anything about wrestling out of WWE videogames, I was completely sold on Mark Henry being one of the biggest threats on the show at the time. In 2011 he had star power. I think him and Sheamus could be included, although Sheamus's push only came in 2012.
Would love to see a WWE vs AEW video going over their individual rosters in 2019 when AEW first got going
I’m amazed how much things have changed for AEW and WWE now like I say before 4 years in wrestling are like 20 tbh
Kind of like the WCW roster in 1997-1999, Hogan, Sting, Bret Hart, Goldberg, Nash, Hall, Steiner, Savage, DDP, The Giant, Luger, and a lot of guys who would be huge like Benoit, Guerrero, and Booker T. But it doesn’t matter if you don’t know how to book them all correctly and use your roster to its fullest potential.
Tna’s roster was really Overlooked back in ‘11 maybe because of all the 💩 on T.V but that’s really the roster I got used to an they really did help captivate this generation of performers
2011 was really bad year for WWE
A part from the CM Punk lead up to MITB but it is like WWE were trying to take wind out of his sails. Yeah very bad year.
Agreed only good thing from that year I remember is Kane remasking cause that was when I got back into WWE after stopping in 2009 and even his remasking wasn’t done right imo
Yeah, 2011 is a very average year, but I really liked the year from 2012 to 2014, in fact, until 2020 I thought the product was cool, then it started to decline until the regime change, this change was so good that my love of sport is back
That Sheamus disrespect is real!!
this was predominantly the wrestling I watched, abyss was so cool, Robert Roode was so believable, the motor city machine guns, the cruiser weights especially, and AUSTIN ARIES.
Wow Big Show catching some. He has been my favorite wrestler since the 90s.
When WWE kept teasing the Brodus Clay re-debut in 2011 with Lars Sullivan-esque promos I was pumped as a kid. I was IMMEDIATELY deflated when I waited that long for a dancing gimmick. His debut is actually what allowed me to talk my parents into letting me start watching RAW because they thought that show was still like the attitude era😂😂😂😂
I will say about Sheamus, since the start of his WWE career before The Bar with Cesaro i didnt rate him either. But ever since his team with Cesaro, i started to like him more and more and you can tell im not the only one if you listen how the fans react to him and respect him nowadays.
Pretty sure Kane was World heavyweight Champ in 2011
Surprised their hasn’t been a ROTH featuring crimson.
Too many matches
Watching TNA on Challenge tv was really the good times
I've never had a problem believing Sheamus could beat the absolute crap out of nearly anyone else. Yes, he had a strange look but it made him stand out and it was never a detriment to him in his career. Sheamus was still a 6'5" 250-ishlb Irish ass-kicker who has a great ability to control the crowd as either Heel or Face, or even Tweener. His The Bar run and his initial run were amazing and I still rate him highly nowadays as a solid hand who is great in any division be it Main-event, or Tag or even mid-card. If you are still not sold on him, check out any of his matches against Drew McIntyre, Gunther or Daniel Bryan (Minus the Wrestlemania 15-second debacle)
Tbh at one point in the rumble this year, I looked who was in the ring and was like “my god, the talent and star power in the ring at the moment is insane, it’s just their mid carders rn. Got into TNA when Joe was running the X division. Was insanely stacked until they went 4 sided. But even now a days, they get stacked sometimes
I played some WWE 11 and the roster is truly dire. There was literally noone I wanted to play as 😂
Jerry Lawler wrestling eleven televised matches is funny because 11 is definitely part of his age range
Here's another idea for a "Was It Any Good?" video: The Filthy Animals in WCW. They were mostly seen as a rip-off of D-Generation X, but I don't see the connection personally. They were a faction that had a Latino Gangster Rap essence to it, had Konnan as the leader, and had some good intros one of which was done by Konnan and Madd 1, but apart from that, I don't know if they had any good backstage moments, any good matches/feuds, or any memorable promos. And it was at a time when WCW was the absolute pits, so it could be a good topic to do a "Was It Any Good?"
I actually love Melina/ MNM's theme music for some reason.
From what I remember, it’s essentially one giant guitar solo, sooo...
Angelina Love was without a doubt the sexiest woman wrestler in tna
Also I so wanted their in game character in Suicide to work, cause honestly. You look at how that started, it started off so well, and they did it so good. But then it went crap. Can't believe how they dropped the ball on that.
Ted Jr was hard done by....he knew that referee tried to Shuv on him..
My favorite indie team will probably always be the mcmg due to how awesome they are
Funniest thing Santino ever did was getting slapped by Jim Cornette.
Neah, he legit can act.
@@nebulous798 Dude is was a joke. Much like his career. LMMFAO. Damn im in fire.
TNA Impact was far from perfect in 2011 but damn they had a stacked roster with a mix of legends, top future stars of the business and solid midcarders. This is why they were more enjoyable at times than WWE around this period.
Man speaking of EY.. they messed up sanity baaaddddddd
Part of the problem with the TNA roster at this time was how many of the main event guys had really plied their trade in WWE already. The top wrestler in the company was Kurt Angle and he wasn't born and bred in TNA, he developed in WWE and Paul Heyman was the guy who saw his potential as ECW was going to sign him at one point and so when Paul Heyman joined WWE and basically became a creative member of Smackdown, Kurt Angle was pushed as a main eventer. The other top wrestlers weren't really TNA guys as well in fact the only main eventer that was a TNA guy was AJ Styles. I would call Ring of Honor developed guys also TNA guys because they probably got more popular as a result of wrestling in TNA, for example Samoa Joe(he was a Ring of Honor main eventer.) I think that is the criticism of the TNA roster at this time, not that it was legitimately bad, but the fact they relied on former wrestlers from other companies rather than building their own talent).
I would also make a pretty accurate comparison. ECW in its entire run had many of its main eventers developed at ECW and it was only when they became developed that they moved ship to other companies. Basically they would've languished in the lower end of the rosters of the companies they were at if ECW hadn't taken them in. But guys like Cactus Jack(Mick Foley) he became more prolific after his ECW move and WWE pushed him even further and gave him a title. New Jack(yes he was actually well used and became an ECW mainstay and developed talent who was a big tag team division hardcore wrestler) Sabu and Rob Van Dam(both ECW developed talent who put on great matches). Like you could say Rey Mysterio was technically an ECW talent who ended up being developed by WCW. So when you look at how much ECW home grown talent existed in the company, it is disappointing that TNA never really replicated that vibe.
Ryker was released due to budget cuts a year after his tweet. He was with Elias.
Wish you'd stop hating on Rob Terry... He's never taken steroids, due to only having one kidney. He's officially 100% natural, and though he's not achieved anything in Wrestling, he's gone on to win Mr Olympia, which is pretty awesome.
Bro, Gail didn't come back to TNA until October 2011; how can you count her for TNA that year? She was in WWE the rest of the year
Yeah, and he didn't count Edge, even though he still wrestled a third of the year
Watch Sheamus vs Gunther 2022 clash at the castle if you want to believe what sheamus does
the pope and Desmond wolfe. The first victims of Hogan's bs.