The refit venator might be too cheap for its usefulness but it really isn't as good as you say at taking on other capital ships in its class It loses most 1v1s.
I honestly thought that the number one spot will be the MC30c. Its just sooo good. Two are enough to quickly kill a VSD, and Three are enough for an ISD. The only hardcounter for them is gladiator spam.
@@captonx2 according to the wiki, it's as tough as a mere cruiser, apart from the armour type. MC30cs are silhouette tanks. They are also very scalable with skilled micro. Always on the move, distributing damage of a wolfpack while also sniping hardpoints, timely shield overcharges. These would be the basics of MC30 fights.
@@captonx2 Fragile? Those things simply refuse to die! Their defensive shield makes them near invincible for quite a while. They are one of the most cost effective ship killers in the game. Hyper specialised for that job. In turn they got absolutely nothing to hurt fighters with. They got a nerf a while ago, almost doubling their cost, which they definitely needed to bring them more in line. Probably still need a nerf.
I also wonder how a list of OP ground units would look like but it would probably be full of force users + maybe iblis. But a list like that with no heroes allowed would be very interesting
I can agree or disagree with some of the units mentioned here (gladiator should be higher probably) but i think the nebulon-b is way better than some units mentioned like the inmobilizer: - frigate with small frame, decent stats and balanced weaponry. - easy to obtain (no tech required) - missile Jam is one of the best abilities to have in a unit. - comes with a y wing longprobe that grants a lot of fow reveal + the ship itself is a good scout. There are literally no reasons to go around without 2-3 of this units in your fleet because they give too much for what they cost, and even if you are in tech 3 already, you Will still replace them if destroyed. Besides this, great video as usual.
I don't really feel any of them are overpowered. Their good at their jobs or really versatile and cost effective, but not OP. Especially not the interdictor. It's only useful if you have overwhelming force. Also, could you do a best rebel start guide?
@@loganthekrogan2182 ya as I continue to make more of these I will mention how easy or not it is to make certain ships and that will play a major role in where they are placed
I'm realy not sure about most of the picks, pretty much all of them used to be overpowered but most got nerfed. I mostly think that they are simply good units that do well in their specific job. Ironicly, the quasar, specialy the bomber version is much more "overpowered" then some of the things on the list. The immobiliser has just one very specific job, and its very usefull but i wouldnt exacly call it overpowered. Tho with the max pop cap beeing higher there is more space for them in the fleet. The gladiators are great and they definitly used to be overpowered, the bomber glads probably still are but less then before becouse of their pop cap increse, same with gozantis (tho i prefer gladiators) The freefals... Well yea they are overpowered, that the whole point but i can't deny that they indeed are. And the refit venator, well it is good, but it can't exacly one v one all cap ships, it can 1v1 MC80s but its a bit weaker then the ISD to be honest (you might still be able to win with good micro) while being just a tiny bit cheaper and having very similar pop cap. Its a good unit and it gives the black sun some much needed firepower but i realy dont consider it overpowered. I'm not sure what units i would put on this list myself, except one that would take the number 1 spot, the ISD 2, that ship can delete anything at any range from a hammerhead (which is definitly not its idea target but the 72 medium turbos just dont care, they'll nail it even ag 4750 range) to a dountless, even the NR caps have a hard time trying to match it, i'm pretty sure it beats all of them at least bearly. And guess what, it got a pop cap reduction, its just insane. The ONLY counter to them are fighters, find a unit that is good against fighters and you have a fleet (now gladiators could take that spot which probably puts them on the list) The rebel hero caps got a pop cap increse so i wouldnt call them overpowered. The dountless still havent gotten the much needed pop cap increse so that thing is a tiny bit overpowered but gets overshadowed by ISD2. The baracuda used to be ridiculously overpowered but i'm pretty sure it was finaly nerfed, it not tho, it gets the number 2 spot
I agree that the dauntless could have made this list it’s strong, but I also wanted to make the Gozanti on the list. The quasar is out don’t by making the squads individually (I got a video to on coming out soon) and finally I would love to see a 1 v 1 of a refit ven versus an isd cause i really think the ven would win. I might make a RUclips shirt on that it’d be epic
@@captonx2 i had Vader 1v1 a refit ven and won easly but Vader has punishers so theres that (tho ISD1s can and shoud get them too) i too would like to see it. I think it very much comes down to which ship the player controls, since people usualy have better 1v1 micro, and you can't not micro couse then AI is gonna win for sure
most broken ship is the tie brut infact u can lvl everything with swarm of them brought in by soem gozantis i mean 4 guns 2 of withch r ball lazer cannons on a little fighter its crazy not onyl dose it wreck all the fighters and covets because their fighters the can dodge turbos long enought to nuke capital ships
The refit venator might be too cheap for its usefulness but it really isn't as good as you say at taking on other capital ships in its class It loses most 1v1s.
Should do a breakdown of the top 5 units per faction
Will be doing a lot of top 5s soon :)
I honestly thought that the number one spot will be the MC30c. Its just sooo good. Two are enough to quickly kill a VSD, and Three are enough for an ISD. The only hardcounter for them is gladiator spam.
Always thought they were too fragile in my opinion, they are strong but I don’t really like them all too much for multiple reasons.
@@captonx2 according to the wiki, it's as tough as a mere cruiser, apart from the armour type. MC30cs are silhouette tanks. They are also very scalable with skilled micro. Always on the move, distributing damage of a wolfpack while also sniping hardpoints, timely shield overcharges. These would be the basics of MC30 fights.
@@admiralcasperr I think I do a poor job of keeping them always on the move, I do really love how this mod makes that very importnat
@@captonx2 Fragile? Those things simply refuse to die! Their defensive shield makes them near invincible for quite a while. They are one of the most cost effective ship killers in the game. Hyper specialised for that job. In turn they got absolutely nothing to hurt fighters with.
They got a nerf a while ago, almost doubling their cost, which they definitely needed to bring them more in line. Probably still need a nerf.
@@captonx2 Oh wait, i have been a dumdum. I was thinking of the MC40.
I keep mixing those two up all the time. Forget everything i said.
I also wonder how a list of OP ground units would look like but it would probably be full of force users + maybe iblis. But a list like that with no heroes allowed would be very interesting
Ya ive been thinking about one of those too and ya heroes would have there own list, probably going to make a few top 5 vids for now
I can agree or disagree with some of the units mentioned here (gladiator should be higher probably) but i think the nebulon-b is way better than some units mentioned like the inmobilizer:
- frigate with small frame, decent stats and balanced weaponry.
- easy to obtain (no tech required)
- missile Jam is one of the best abilities to have in a unit.
- comes with a y wing longprobe that grants a lot of fow reveal + the ship itself is a good scout.
There are literally no reasons to go around without 2-3 of this units in your fleet because they give too much for what they cost, and even if you are in tech 3 already, you Will still replace them if destroyed.
Besides this, great video as usual.
Watching this to know what to nerf
Very funny
Also check comment section for other peoples opinion
Lmao, best video, ground version plz. Carriers need to be higher pop cap. Don’t @me
Will probably do a ground version soon but will continue to do top 5s, if you have any suggestions lmk
I don't really feel any of them are overpowered. Their good at their jobs or really versatile and cost effective, but not OP. Especially not the interdictor. It's only useful if you have overwhelming force. Also, could you do a best rebel start guide?
I’ve done one in the past that definitely is worth looking at, I’ll update it in the future but unfortunately I can’t promise soon.
Bro turned a Star Destroyer into just a star
Very surprised to see the Gozanti on the list. I reconned this would have been the raider corvette
Raider is Strong but Gozanti got the bump due to no tech requirements versus tech three.
@@captonx2 Very fair considering.
@@loganthekrogan2182 ya as I continue to make more of these I will mention how easy or not it is to make certain ships and that will play a major role in where they are placed
I'm realy not sure about most of the picks, pretty much all of them used to be overpowered but most got nerfed. I mostly think that they are simply good units that do well in their specific job.
Ironicly, the quasar, specialy the bomber version is much more "overpowered" then some of the things on the list.
The immobiliser has just one very specific job, and its very usefull but i wouldnt exacly call it overpowered. Tho with the max pop cap beeing higher there is more space for them in the fleet. The gladiators are great and they definitly used to be overpowered, the bomber glads probably still are but less then before becouse of their pop cap increse, same with gozantis (tho i prefer gladiators) The freefals... Well yea they are overpowered, that the whole point but i can't deny that they indeed are. And the refit venator, well it is good, but it can't exacly one v one all cap ships, it can 1v1 MC80s but its a bit weaker then the ISD to be honest (you might still be able to win with good micro) while being just a tiny bit cheaper and having very similar pop cap. Its a good unit and it gives the black sun some much needed firepower but i realy dont consider it overpowered.
I'm not sure what units i would put on this list myself, except one that would take the number 1 spot, the ISD 2, that ship can delete anything at any range from a hammerhead (which is definitly not its idea target but the 72 medium turbos just dont care, they'll nail it even ag 4750 range) to a dountless, even the NR caps have a hard time trying to match it, i'm pretty sure it beats all of them at least bearly. And guess what, it got a pop cap reduction, its just insane. The ONLY counter to them are fighters, find a unit that is good against fighters and you have a fleet (now gladiators could take that spot which probably puts them on the list)
The rebel hero caps got a pop cap increse so i wouldnt call them overpowered. The dountless still havent gotten the much needed pop cap increse so that thing is a tiny bit overpowered but gets overshadowed by ISD2.
The baracuda used to be ridiculously overpowered but i'm pretty sure it was finaly nerfed, it not tho, it gets the number 2 spot
Oh and the duro mercenary could probably get a spot on the list as well
I agree that the dauntless could have made this list it’s strong, but I also wanted to make the Gozanti on the list. The quasar is out don’t by making the squads individually (I got a video to on coming out soon) and finally I would love to see a 1 v 1 of a refit ven versus an isd cause i really think the ven would win. I might make a RUclips shirt on that it’d be epic
@@agentiq007 if your talking about the Corona frigate yes that think defines over powered lol but it only does one job and is killed easily
@@captonx2 i had Vader 1v1 a refit ven and won easly but Vader has punishers so theres that (tho ISD1s can and shoud get them too) i too would like to see it. I think it very much comes down to which ship the player controls, since people usualy have better 1v1 micro, and you can't not micro couse then AI is gonna win for sure
@@agentiq007 I’ll hit you up when I make it
most broken ship is the tie brut infact u can lvl everything with swarm of them brought in by soem gozantis i mean 4 guns 2 of withch r ball lazer cannons on a little fighter its crazy not onyl dose it wreck all the fighters and covets because their fighters the can dodge turbos long enought to nuke capital ships