What upsets me the most about the personality disorders I've studied is the fact that there's very little research on them. Often times people with these personality disorders have to help themselves do their own research, which means relying on themselves and others who have the disorder. It really makes me question what these researchers are actually researching.
Maybe its uncommon.. but I wish I jad known when I was younger about schizoid. So much if it makes sense for me.. finding others who had similar struggles and dilemmas has really been eye opening
I've read somewhere that around 2% of individuals are diagnosed with Schizoid PD. It's probably one of the most misunderstood of all the various Personality Disorders
I knew I had this before a diagnosis at 27. If only I knew this from the beginning of my life things would have been more clear. Sometimes I wonder how I have got through life knowing there’s something really different about me and not taking action . I’m so cut off I wouldn’t have wanted any attention even from family .. it’s very frightening as an adult to deal with this never mind being a child, then through to Adolescence and beyond. It’s so obvious to people that I’m so isolated and just see you as a thing not a person etc ..
It's not. On the surface it may seem like it, the only benefit is easier to earn money reliably, by more isolated jobs being more prevalent. Mine developed before I ever had a job, and internet didn't help me. Probably the best thing for me would have been no Internet at all, so I would have learned better coping skills. Before the internet I still stayed in my room alone or in the woods and fields alone. I don't think that enabling this obsession doesn't help. But this is just my opinion.
The Internet has helped me with my ScPD. Before the Internet became a thing in my country, I didn't even know that I didn't evrn know what ScPD. I thought I was quiet, different, and not interested in social gatherings.
Absolutely not. Most things are built to a typical human (jobs, apps, courses, etc), so it becomes pretty much a burden for everyone thats VERY atypical, over time.
I often see the cirle of "spd is connected to psychosis/schizofrenia" but there is actually very little reaserch for that. this disorder has be overal quite neglected when it comes to research so if this narrative comes from only one source - can you check on how many patients/test subjects did they even include? when you look at how spd functions irl its similair to autism, not schizofrenia. the difference is we dont seek out connection and do understand social cues - we just dont care to follow them. pushing this psychosis /schizofrenia narrative seems to be harmful and only done because of the name similarity.
I tick most of the boxes for SPD. I will never seek formal diagnosis. I don't want to be "treated" or "cured". I don't see this as a "disorder"; it's how I am; the "normal" world appears disordered to me. I prefer to be alone & that differs significantly from being lonely.
I hear you on that one! I feel the same. Most of the traits described, I relate to, and it just sounds like we're different as individuals compared to the norm. This doesn't need to be such a big deal if we're getting along fine.
I don't want treatment either but diagnosis - very much so. It's such a good line of defense in all these pesky "why you don't wanna talk with us" situations. Or their coachy advices about how we're all social animals that need to seek contact and love, as if anybody asked.
I am now absolutely positive I suffer/have suffered from this. I am very wary of self-diagnosis, and approached this topic after a fried suggested I consider this - and from the point of view I do NOT have this issue....and after several months and many sources (including this one) I can't deny it any longer. Indeed, I now see it's prevalence in my whole life. My father and mother split shortly after I was born because of his alcoholism. Consequently I was raised by my mother who had to work 2-3 jobs to support us. I was a 'Latch Key' kid of late 80's-90's , looking after myself for several hours a day at 8 yrs old. Most of my memories from childhood involve being in my room alone playing RISK and Monopoly by myself. We moved to the country a couple years before highschool, and was mercilessly bullied and ostracized by most of my peers. Thus, my formative psychological experiences and perceptions about life were: Father is gone, Mother is always working, no kids at school that are friendly. Thus the stage was set for a strange melancholy and detachment (plus a weird Low-key resentment towards my mother, whom I only speak to a few times a year - and she lives 15 mins away.
@@earthling9614 no, consciously you don't resent her at all. Consciously you understand that Ma has to work, things cost money. So day after day, going to this babysitter for lunch, that babysitter after school; getting up with her in the morning and going on her bus run with her and the school understanding you will be about half an hour later everyday, you do it. Sacrifices must be made, and you got to be a Big Boy and not get upset about it. The resentment comes SUBCONSCIOUSLY, from deep within and you neither understand why and you feel very guilty about it. It's about having your life controlled by someone else, not being able to decide anything. It's about not having a father and then having a mother who was never there. If you don't form attachments with your parents while young, you don't form attachments ever. I had a provider, I didn't have a parent. Now, out of my mother and I, one person out of that equation decided to have a child with an addict who was not into being a parent, one person decided to have 2-3 jobs, have babysitters (about 30 as I recall), and maintain a certain style of life. And one person made none of those decisions or choices. Here's where resentment (subconsciously) comes from. And the fact that you think what I describe is a 'white' problem is quite telling of YOU.
@@earthling9614 my mother has disowned most of this family and now is almost 80, an alcoholic, and a very bitter person. And do you know why? Because she chose career over family. She's been around the world, got a beautiful home that she can't look after anymore, and a family that isn't interested in seeing her because no valid relationships were ever formed with her because she wasn't around. You see, when Ma or Pa isn't in the picture much, you don't bond with them, you don't connect while young. Thus, when grown, they aren't really at the front of your mind, because you had to figure things out without them. My mother used to say to us: 'You made your bed, chose your choices. Now deal with it.' That's about all I have to say myself.
The best video on this on RUclips🙏😃 you elaborate more, and comes with diverse ways of acting when having this disorder. I think the other videos are too simplistic. So thank you for this video🙏🌸
Thank you for such wonderful feedback! I'm thrilled to hear you found the video comprehensive and helpful. It's always my goal to provide valuable insights rather than just skimming the surface. Your support is greatly appreciated!
All my whole life I thought I was weird and I felt judged having to explain why I'm always alone!! and I even lost my old age at 39 years of age and I feel that I am strange to people which makes me close myself even more, now I think maybe this is the type of disorder or the personality that I have.
At 4:20, you talk about people with Avoidant PD being hypersensitive to rejection, but people with Schizoid PD being indifferent to rejection. Well, I disagree. From my readings, those with Schizoid PD also have a fear of rejection. They may go through periods of all-consuming relationships to then have complete isolation and detachment from relationships. It’s the all-or-nothing approach to relationships, where there is a need to be completed by the other person.
I feel the need for approval is a strange need but at the same time i do personally fear disapproval, so although I'm not looking for approval i'd say I'm not completely indifferent, most of the time I'd be indifferent, of couse its my personal experience as diagnosed with spd
I am one. It is not a disorder. It is a blessing. It is total recognition and acceptance of reality the way it is and living ones life accordingly. Is the delusion of the crowd better? Only if you are delusional.
Ultimately it puts a limitation on overall quality of life, at least for me and every other schizoid I've seen online. If it has been a blessing to you, then that's nice
Well it handicaps me and keeps me from being able to do simple work well if I have to interact and be in a personal space. Because of that it has brought on much depression and anxiety for me
Exactly. That herd mentality and keeping up with the joneses will have you running off the cliff, eventually. I understand you gotta play the social game for survival. But doing too much of it, you'll lose yourself.
I love it having it too, but it does annoy and confuse everyone. Have never seen a shrink and never plan to either. Life has been good to me the last 66 years. No regrets about not marrying or having kids!
I believe they are two variations of the same disorder. AvPD is just being unable to accept that you don't desire relationships with others as badly as society thinks you should. Avoidants think that for some reason, being accepted by others is the antidote for their loneliness when it's not. Perhaps you long for a connection with someone who "gets" you, but if you truly are around enough people you start to see that you don't want it that badly. It's all on how you view things. I do still suffer from AvPD as well but I noticed that I seem to be veering more towards schizoid once I change my thoughts about it all. That there is nothing wrong with being a loner, there is nothing wrong with me, there is nothing I'm missing out on. Socializing is nothing but a game, and a game that some can play very well. But if others aren't truly of any interest to you, would you even still want to play the game? Avoidants just need to realize that there is nothing they're missing out on. Schizoids have realized this and adapted through intellectualizing their solitude. It's all in the thought patterns.
@@theresnothinghereatall Try talking to LLM AI like ChatGPT, Gemini, or Claude AI. I don't feel much joy either, but then I don't care enough for it to bother me ultimately. I spend my time reading and chit chatting with AI. "The worst loneliness is to not be comfortable with yourself." - Mark Twain
I’m only halfway through so far, but thank you so much. This is such a well organized video & is helping me take notes & filter through my thoughts so much more easily than many other videos on this subject. Great work
I’m some what confused on the root problem with this diagnosis. In this video and other sources I researched they say it is different from avoidant personality disorder because the person with APD actually wants social interaction as opposed to the person with scizoid personality disorder. Is the problem that deep down the person with schizoid personality disorder does have a need to connect with others but is in denial of it as some sort of trauma response?
Read "Some Thoughts about Schizoid Dynamics" by Nancy Williams. It's short but so far is the only non-schizoid person that seems to get into the core of the schizoid personality. It's a quite refreshing read and as a adult and more emotionally mature schizoid I think she gets it really well.
Wow I have never heard anything that described me so well. Only thing is I didn’t notice much of it until I was about 25 which seems a bit late? You describe my mom as the caregiver as well. I remember in college calling my mom because I was having a mental breakdown and she told me to talk to someone else. Also extreme depression and at least one episode of psychosis
I was diagnosed with this years ago. This fits me perfectly. Except for the sex part. Im not so big on the touchy feely stuff, but i enjoy the physical aspect of sex
Is Schizoid PD largely ego-dystonic or is it largely ego-syntonic? Do the people who have it usually experience it as a problem and suffer harm from it? Does Schizoid PD involve disturbances of some kind - affective disturbance, intellectual disturbance, perceptual disturbance, relational disturbance, identity disturbance? The video mentions emotional coldness, lack of empathy, lack of enjoyment and interest in romantic relationships…. but are those experienced by the person as disturbances or as deficits, or are they simply preferences or different ways of interpreting the world and expressing oneself? Would people be more likely to get treatment for it if it was classified as a mood disorder, an anxiety disorder, or a schizophrenia spectrum disorder?
It is just a label to say you don't have gang mentality, therefore you are sooooo wrong for not being so sensitive when people want to cry about every little thing they think is microaggressive. Can you microaggress a schizoid? Nope, we just don't care.
I'm self-diagnosed but will attempt to answer as best I can. I can only speak for myself keep in mind. I don't really have a problem with it at all, but some others seem to. The suffering that can sometimes happens comes from the fact that the bar of expectations (socially at least) from others on to myself can be too much and there is only so much willpower I have. It can be very draining and unrewarding. On the other hand, my expectation of others is pretty low to the floor (I'm not trying to say this with a sense of superiority, it just is). I don't really know what you're referring to there about disturbances, they sound more like schizophrenia? The only thing I can say is I know I'm not what people consider normal - but I am what I am and there's nothing fundamentally wrong with me. As for stuff like empathy and compassion, I have as much as most but my face does not say it, hence the APPARENT coldness from the lack of affect; I've been asked a few times now if I'm a serial killer (asked in a joking way and I get where they're coming from). Not disturbances or defects, it's just so. I don't really feel a need to "express" myself as most of my time is spent alone in my head thinking outside myself. It doesn't matter what name you give it, if I don't think I have a problem with my personality and the "treatment" involves doing things that I don't feel naturally inclined to do, then why would I do it? I've had depression for a few months now and I'm in the process of getting treatment for that. Hope this helped dude.
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@@dr.beckyspelman i have SPD and i have severe depression and i think i had ANHEDONIA (an inability to experience pleasure) i was raised by a single mother who was mostly a loner, she wrapped me up in cotton wool and never let me do anything as a kid unless i was strictly supervised, now she wonders why im a social cripple, i hate my mother so much, she is always inviting me over nicely but as soon as i walk in the unwanted advice starts and she tells me exactly what is wrong with me, but she always has the best response, which is if i dont tell you whats wrong with you, who will? lol, and its my responsibility to tell you whats wrong with you, so you improve yourself, see what i still have to deal with as a 40yr old INCEL, yes i am an INCEL, i want a GF< but im scared to ask women out for fear of rejection, i want a GF but i feel unworthy to have one, im not a COOL extrovert, im more a quiet boring type guy, attractive women dont want guys like that, and im not rich, only thing i would have to offer a nice woman is conversation and thats it, i probably had ADHD aspbergers as well
By now I think being schizoid is actually amazing. In my early twenties not so much because I had no idea what was going on with me. It was very confusing because I do find women attractive and can fall in love but when I actually had the chance I didn't even want a close relationship which was as confusing for her as it was for me. Also I had no real identity because one good argument by someone was enough to shift my opinion on something, I had no mental shielding. Schizoids need to work on their mental shielding to keep their identity intact, it's hard but doable. It can become a miserable state of existence real fast if you are inexperienced with it or refuse to accept it and try to be normal because you will never truly find your place that way. It can be a happy state of existence if you embrace it and build your life around it. I live alone and I barely work 20 hours a week because I don't need more to sustain my solitary lifestyle. The social aspects that eat up so much energy, time and money for others isn't something I put up with, aside from very close family. My true nemesis is boredom now, when I am through with my books/games/shows and haven't found something new yet. Other than that it's fine and dandy. I'd never seek treatment because I'm not unwell
Hell yeah, man. I feel that. I used to think I didn't like social interaction, but what I truly didn't like, was stupid, empty, hollow, pointless attention seeking. I found it a disrespectful attitude, that would constantly ruin my solitude, without any consideration... Yet when I'd tell them to go away, I apparently was being rude... I grew VERY tired of extroverts and their one sided needs. I didn't have the problem. They did... So, if you feel like having interesting conversations, message me again and I'll let you know my Discord. You can message me whenever and there's no need to reply or not. I've made some interesting connections this way. I like to equally challenge and be open to all kinds of ideas. Obviously living a solitary life, gets in the way of lived experiences, but hearing about it (When I actually want to) from other people, is more than good enough for me.
Very easy to see alot of myself in you. I'm new to the whole schizoid diagnosis thing and it got me wondering if Schizoid is more like having a better veneer of coping/self-rationalization/etc. of their life of solitude, while AvPD is that itch for social longing that's constantly not being met. I tend to have a very cold presentation and indifferent to social cues as much as I find them exhausting. Like, it's sort of annoying to be socially judged, but I feel like their's this inherent fickleness about people that makes their opinions not hold much relevance to me and I brush it off. Say, if i become that weird aloof guy that get's scapegoated by colleagues, I'm fine with it so long as I don't have to spend so much of my life with them (this leads me to living the 20 hr, minimalist, solitary life like yourself). Lol, I'd leave jobs that tried to promote me into working more hours and they'd be extremely confused as to why "I suddenly found a new opportunity" lol. It's definately made me a very stingy person with my money haha! Every 2.50$ was being equated to 15 mins that I'd have to spend at work with 'those fucking people', which made it alot easier to cut expenses. Otherwise, I can totally relate to the identity thing. I in the end adopted the "You know ALOT less than you know" and am not very opinionated due to that. It's very zen on one hand, but also lends itself to being very repulsive to others who are always discerning whether you're on their side or not. Thanks for sharing though! I think it might've been the 1st time I read a "mirror" so to speak lol!
Schizoid: facts don't care about your feelings. Being cold emotionally is not a bad thing seeing as how sensitive people today are soooo traumatized over the least little imaginary slight. Maybe study that personality disorder because us schizoids simply want to think rationally, not emotionally. Do the opinions of me from others matter? Nope. And my opinion should not matter. But somehow, emotionally driven people who do not think are called normal. I would rather be schizoid than pretend to be part of a crowd that forces me to think like all of them, knowing they hate it just as much but too afraid to do anything but pretend. And schizoids don't pretend when it comes to facts. Gang mentality is the real mental illness.
4:46 As a child I've been misdiagnosed with high functioning autism. I kinda want to find treatment because I don't enjoy a lot of things and it makes it impossible for me to know what to study.
Hallo , forgive my english , i m italian . I have a question . Just to introduce myself quickly , I m 110% skizoid , INTP Adhd adult ( maybe light ausberger ) . Very succesfull in my job , world level good in it ( nothing to do with my youtube channel , that is another topic , but a completly different field , wich i belive that my brain " problems " helped a lot to make me reach this extreme level i am now , especially adhd iperfocus , and my total lack of emotions ) .....my question is : skizoid personality is not genetic , if i understood well , come from traumas . Can i get out from it , with therapy ? Not just , coompensate chemicals with medicaments or devlopp coping mechanism trought therapy ....i mean , really , heal from it , with help indeed , but , is " healing " one of the possible outcomes ?
Can you imagine what it is like to match a strongly SPD person with a strongly narcissist person in a marriage? I am pretty sure a SPD person can cure a narcissist person before a SPD person cares about the situation. I am tired of being "labeled" as a sociopath when I definitely am not. I self-diagnose as a SPD person. How can I prove I am not a sociopath / psychopath to my SO?
The very fact that you care about your partner’s narcissism and want to cure that person shows you have empathy. You’re not going to prove yourself to your partner, it’s emotional manipulation that person is doing to call you a psychopath. Also, don’t try to cure a narcissist, because you’re not going to have any luck.
Most Schizoid people are sociopaths frankly….Because ASPD is not same as sociopathy, it has correlation, similarities with sociopathy but it’s not the same as ASPD, it’s really complex to explain it. I am diagnosed with Schizoid and ASPD by age 27. I am not a sociopath by the way only edgy people claim to be one….I am just indifferent. You can’t cure a narcissist, don’t waste your time on them. I don’t think you’re a Schizoid though…Schizoid people have no empathy, if they have empathy they have selective empathy for the people they seems to care about, out of this circle they don’t care. I guess Schizoid people are individual.
I just want to know how it feels to have feelings again,iam not even happy,I cant even cry,no excitement ,only thinking why we exist if one day we all gonna die in the end,I just think what it means to have bond,what is love and hate. I dont know what to do due to this condition I have nobody to talk about this how can I overcome it?. I have this disorder from last 6 years now iam 18 i didnt knew that i was suffering from this.
First the disclaimer: 1)I don't know if I have SPD but it seems likely at least a moderate version. 2) I feel like depression is more your issue than SPD. All those symptoms sound like depression, they are not unique to SPD. And while having SPD may overlap and strengthen those symptoms, the depression sounds to me like the main thing your suffering from. you may get more benefit from trying to treat your symptoms as depression. However, if it is SPD or at least exacerbated by SPD, here's how I've kind of put my life together in an enjoyable way while (maybe) having SPD 3) for real though, see a therapist. My "advice" is very tailored to me and its seems like you have more going on than just SPD In terms of overcoming the negative elements of SPD. I feel like a lot of the thing we don't experience comes from trying to avoid the mental taxation of such things. People aren't fun to hang out with because it's so much effort to mirror back emotions. Hobbies aren't fun because they take too much physical/mental effort to get good at it or even build interest. So finding ways to unburden those activities is the key. Anhedonia - strive for pleasure if not outright fun. "Fun" or "passion" sometimes seems too overwhelming for me. I mostly just want to read, or draw, or lay in the sun, so I do those things. I wasn't passionate at art when I first started it, but I was remotely into it so I started doing it as a "might as well" type activity. Even majoring in art in University was like, "I like it better than business so I guess I'll do art". And the more I got entrenched in it, the more easy and automatic is became, in terms of skill and in terms or the mental emotional effort to stick with it. I say try something you don't hate and return to it every time you get bored. Try to NOTICE the times when you are remotely interested in things and revisit it and build off of it. Like if you NOTICE the sun is really nice today, follow that. Go outside. if you notice a simple TikTok of a delicious recipe looks good to you. Try and recreate it. Even the smallest things. If you notice your legs feel really good after sitting down, double down on it. Grab a blanket, some tea and sit down real good. Slowly you build habits that you enjoy. Eventually you'll be able to surround yourself with things you enjoy. LIke sitting on the couch after work with your blanket every day will by an extra positive 20 minutes you add to your day, maybe you'll find something you like doing while your sitting, knitting, researching history, reading, whatever. The noticing and following through is perhaps the most important part. You need to strengthen the smallest things you enjoy and hopefully it will add up. Emotions - I feel like there's a stoniness that stabilizes and keeps contained my emotions. It is so much the default that it feels genuinely unsettling to laugh hard. When genuine strong emotions start to come out it's like a reflex where I ,,like shut them down. It's like there's an emergency "power down button" that gets hit almost before the emotion even arrives. Sometimes it's a social reflex like it's awkward if someone sees me laugh at a movie so I won't and it becomes so automatic that it's not even something I notice I'm doing. NOTICE it and do your best to let it through. Set a new default Connection - Find someone who like to engage in "parallel play" where you're kind of doing separate things, side by side. Like both reading your own separate books, or playing a mutiplayer game like Stardew Valley, where there's the option to work together or you can just roam around by yourself while technically playing together. For me I almost joined a sketching-in-a-coffeeshop meet-up because you can just absorb the socialness while really just doing your own thing. There is a little conversation needed but really very little. When there isn't so much brain fatigue, emotional closeness comes way more easily. There is always going to be some work, making yourself be social but once there's a spark of connection it gets easier and easier. The pointlessness of life - things seems more meaningful once you've built a cozy life situation you are motivated to maintain so is more a by-product of the lacking of the above things caused by SPD. It is not inherent in SPD so I'm not sure I have too much advice on this one other than taking care of it in the way one would take care of depression, whatever that is. I haven't really been depressed but I definitely identify with the stress of feeling listless, and unconnected. 🤷I don't know. Hope this helps in someway. Good luck
Embrace it. You'll have it for life. Emotion is over-rated. I'm seldom happy, but almost never mad, or sad. It takes a lot to trigger my anger at all, but even then it falls away precipitously. My mother died 10 years ago. I mourned her and was sad. 3 days later I stopped thinking about her.
Relationships. Not interested, could not care any less. Books are far more interesting. When I began schooling, I had a goal, a major, an interest. That dissolved in a hurry. One interest became three, three became six. A single lifetime sucks. You can't learn fast enough. A genius couldn't do it. I HAVE to be alone ! My pea brain can't do EVERYTHING. I simply would rather study than eat, sleep, socialize, sex, have friends, or 🕺💃. Call it cognitive dissonance. 🙂 I like that. Always establishing distance with 'any' kind of relationship; risks far out weigh any benefits. Defensiveness - not really. Against what ? No anxiety based disorders ( Amy longer). Psychosis ? Well, I know what's real (all too damn well) but I prefer unreality; it's both more intellectually as well as emotionally challenging and satisfying. Subtypes ? Boy, you're on trouble. As soon as you 'schiz' a schizoid - your whole foundation (if there is any) becomes more and more unstable. Aspergers ? Big-time over- lap, yeah. Debilitating OCD at one time. (? - all the way to washing 'unclean' contaminated rocks ! ! !). Genetic and Environmental etiology - not doubt in 'my' mind. The real trouble is the complete absence of one diog. from any two head doctors. 🤪 Mimicking 'Autistic Spectrum Disorder'; well, 👱♀️ or 👨 or 🦊🦌🦝 maybe 🌲or EVEN 👺? - Any difference is subjective entirely; no Aristotelian reasoning necessary ! [ yeah he/she is definitely - 🤡🤪😐]. Maladaptive schema, I like that. If you've any problem with loneliness, you're fine. But a strong preference for solitary ANYTHING, and you've got a loose 📪 ? I think not. 10:45 to ~ 11:30, the overall verbiage, and references, and nebulous context, please. If you are someone who prefers to be alone, NO WORRIES. Please don't misunderstand this young woman. She (I don't believe) is suggesting that 'per se'. There isn't a thing wrong with that. In fact, I am personally of the opinion, - that what it is you may fear is 🤪normal, is in fact a great deal more healthful. Remember, - the 'status quo' designs 'normality'; even the DSM references this 'constituency' when itemizing everyone's 'I'm OK - you're OK world. Psych. processionals are strongly encouraged to 'label' you; indeed, this interest is vested in more than you're well-being. Relax. Sexual interest - None. Praise or criticism - couldn't care less. Emotional coldness ? - I think his idea is rather detached. It certainly is not me. "Doesn't my schizy and disorganized writing style suggest this" ? 🙂 Man, Guntrip (sic😷)'s nine characteristics are a rather incongruous mess, in my sick opinion. If you're motivated you don't need drugs 😐 - now that's an open-ended declarative statement if I have ever heard one. Dopaminenergic ? Disregulation ? in schizophrenia. Well, that is no doubt in force among a billion other 'ailments'. What a mess. Are you all clear now ? Brother. In med school, every disease, abnormality, and ailment discussed suddenly you'll be self- diagnosed with. All his enigmatic tech. talk is so unnecessary. Just relate to people man. It's so simple, just relax. I'd rather be insane anyway. Normality is boring as hell; it's dull. Go crazy, it's so much more fun and satisfying.
@@dr.beckyspelman i love how you touch your glasses every now and than, its so hot, im just a sucker for a brunette with glasses and is a little nerdy, your perfect and your smart, it would be a pleasure for you to be my personal therapist, maybe one day hey. ha ha
@@dr.beckyspelman you are a very smart woman, and that is an extreme compliment as i rarely say that to anyone, i have a question for you Dr, sometimes i feel i am BETTER than most people, i think i do that to live with myself better, but on the other hand the other half of the time i think im worse than everyone else and a loser, because i have a terrible low paying job, i cant get a date, i hate my family, so what is that disorder called, where sometimes im a narcisist and i think im better than everyone else, i think i have much more common sense than most people, and im great at financial matters and saving/investing, but on the other hand i have very low self esteem, im still scared to ask women out, im scared to quit my job and try and get a better job etc... what is this called, does it have a professional name?
Never diagnosed, but definitely me. I'd be interested in drug protocols with some balls - psychonaut on erowid kinda stuff. It's not a marginal improvement type situation. I've done some pretty radical experimentation, myself. 14g psilocybin seemed to catalyze a general abstract restructuring that enhanced my ability to introspect and articulate previously inexplicable notions, though the "changes" manifest over the course of months following. I think something like MDMA, aniracetam or other pro-social pro-empathy nootropics would be an interesting thing to try as well. If you have this, and you shatter all your illusions, you're just in hell.
Saying that schizoids and avoidants can be differentiated by rejection sensitivity is false. Schizoids are, in fact, extremely sensitive to rejection. A schizoid is so sensitive, they will prefer to internalize the outer objects and create elaborate fantasies about them instead of risking the rejection and destroying their fantasies. The DSM and ICD manuals really are not very good at diagnosing schizoids, because of its full focus on outward appearance rather than the internal world of the schizoid that is split off from the outer one.
Im still 15 years old and im not sure if i have this or i just really got fiesty everytime 🙆🏻♀️. I love being around people hanging out and even wanna get involve in relationshipd later when im alllowed already,,,but also there are just these times like 15 mins ago where my younger cousin went knocking on the window and i exploded and shouted at her. It always happens to me specailly around kids,, it even went to the point i ask mom to ask them move out from the house cuz i cant stand them always being arround me asking nonsense questions repeatedly and wont stop running around the wholee dayy,,i dont like it when theres alot of people gathering for occassions here in the house,and dont talk too much like i was before,im gonna just smile to whatever they say cuz i dont want to make the concersation longer😭
"I love being around people" No, you are absolutely not Schizoid, like any average person, you just like to have your own personal space sometimes and also have your own preferences as to whom you want to interact with. A person with schizoid personality absolutely doesn't want to deal with any kind of social interaction, and quite literally doesn't have and don't care to have any friend, in some situations they won't even keep in contact with any family member. Additionally, they will try to avoid showing strong emotions like anger, sadness or happiness. You are just simply too young to have patient with people that is younger than you and you just don't like random people in your house, and again these are just typical responses towards treasuring one's own personal space.
@@gastong3311 ok i understand Your point guys but if you have add even without hyperactivity You feel very weird in children collectives,just like you dont belong there,it can lead to introvercy,self underestimation,social anxiety,even into adulthood.Probably not the same as schizoid personality disorder,but samewthat close?
My brother I’m pretty sure has this and he’s very abusive to me. I’m trying to figure out how to help him but I can’t find much about schizoids being abusive. But he hates people and being around them so much that he is cruel to them and especially me. I am not a psychologist but when I look at the DSM my brother marks off all key characteristics of this disorder but one. And that is sex. He did have a girlfriend once and I know he’s interested in women. But I don’t think he’s interested in having relationships with them. Just sex. But besides that he had every symptom. He avoids everyone. He is apathetic. I don’t know what else to say he just REALLY hates being around people. Like to the point that he gets angry and abusive if he has to be around people too long. He does not work because he has issues having to socialize at work and he won’t go to college for the same reason. Even tho their is online he says he can’t focus if he has to live around people. He’s not autistic. He’s not stupid or crazy. But he’s not very nice and he hates everyone.
Sounds more like antisocial pd than schizoid, people with spd hate confrontation and will change their habits once they have exited a social situation in order to avoid them in the future, getting angry doesn’t sound like a typical presentation. Sorry to hear about what you are going through.
@@sklitterbeer106 I’d say so but he’s good to animals and loved our childhood cat and dog so I don’t think it’s that since APD people often aren’t kind to animals. I don’t think he’s devoid of feeling sorry for others he just care about himself far more. I wonder if he’s not a very introverted covert narcissist with schizoid. It may not be typical for most to get angry but he’s defiantly got the symptoms of schizoid besides that
What upsets me the most about the personality disorders I've studied is the fact that there's very little research on them. Often times people with these personality disorders have to help themselves do their own research, which means relying on themselves and others who have the disorder. It really makes me question what these researchers are actually researching.
Thank you for your comment
Almost 100% of SzPD patients walk into their mental health professionals with an accurate diagnosis; that, according to those who specialize in SzPD.
We don't show up for the studies I hear.
Maybe its uncommon.. but I wish I jad known when I was younger about schizoid. So much if it makes sense for me.. finding others who had similar struggles and dilemmas has really been eye opening
I've read somewhere that around 2% of individuals are diagnosed with Schizoid PD. It's probably one of the most misunderstood of all the various Personality Disorders
I knew I had this before a diagnosis at 27.
If only I knew this from the beginning of my life things would have been more clear. Sometimes I wonder how I have got through life knowing there’s something really different about me and not taking action . I’m so cut off I wouldn’t have wanted any attention even from family .. it’s very frightening as an adult to deal with this never mind being a child, then through to Adolescence and beyond. It’s so obvious to people that I’m so isolated and just see you as a thing not a person etc ..
Thank you for sharing
@Hakujo Ichin me to,,
I think with the way society is going, Schizoid personality disorder if you're a young man is actually a blessing.
It's not. On the surface it may seem like it, the only benefit is easier to earn money reliably, by more isolated jobs being more prevalent. Mine developed before I ever had a job, and internet didn't help me. Probably the best thing for me would have been no Internet at all, so I would have learned better coping skills. Before the internet I still stayed in my room alone or in the woods and fields alone. I don't think that enabling this obsession doesn't help. But this is just my opinion.
The Internet has helped me with my ScPD. Before the Internet became a thing in my country, I didn't even know that I didn't evrn know what ScPD. I thought I was quiet, different, and not interested in social gatherings.
Lmao why
Absolutely not. Most things are built to a typical human (jobs, apps, courses, etc), so it becomes pretty much a burden for everyone thats VERY atypical, over time.
I often see the cirle of "spd is connected to psychosis/schizofrenia" but there is actually very little reaserch for that. this disorder has be overal quite neglected when it comes to research so if this narrative comes from only one source - can you check on how many patients/test subjects did they even include? when you look at how spd functions irl its similair to autism, not schizofrenia. the difference is we dont seek out connection and do understand social cues - we just dont care to follow them. pushing this psychosis /schizofrenia narrative seems to be harmful and only done because of the name similarity.
Agreed. That's probably why it's often misdiagnosed as Avoidant, Bipolar, Borderline or schizophrenia.
I tick most of the boxes for SPD.
I will never seek formal diagnosis.
I don't want to be "treated" or "cured".
I don't see this as a "disorder"; it's how I am; the "normal" world appears disordered to me.
I prefer to be alone & that differs significantly from being lonely.
I hear you on that one! I feel the same. Most of the traits described, I relate to, and it just sounds like we're different as individuals compared to the norm. This doesn't need to be such a big deal if we're getting along fine.
I don't want treatment either but diagnosis - very much so. It's such a good line of defense in all these pesky "why you don't wanna talk with us" situations. Or their coachy advices about how we're all social animals that need to seek contact and love, as if anybody asked.
The biggest issue is it causes issues with work and school. I don't want it cured either, but it makes things difficult.
Hard to make a living without adjusting to a "world" revolving around a major different life style and view than you. Not impossible tho
I am now absolutely positive I suffer/have suffered from this. I am very wary of self-diagnosis, and approached this topic after a fried suggested I consider this - and from the point of view I do NOT have this issue....and after several months and many sources (including this one) I can't deny it any longer. Indeed, I now see it's prevalence in my whole life.
My father and mother split shortly after I was born because of his alcoholism. Consequently I was raised by my mother who had to work 2-3 jobs to support us. I was a 'Latch Key' kid of late 80's-90's , looking after myself for several hours a day at 8 yrs old. Most of my memories from childhood involve being in my room alone playing RISK and Monopoly by myself.
We moved to the country a couple years before highschool, and was mercilessly bullied and ostracized by most of my peers.
Thus, my formative psychological experiences and perceptions about life were: Father is gone, Mother is always working, no kids at school that are friendly.
Thus the stage was set for a strange melancholy and detachment (plus a weird Low-key resentment towards my mother, whom I only speak to a few times a year - and she lives 15 mins away.
@@earthling9614 no, consciously you don't resent her at all. Consciously you understand that Ma has to work, things cost money. So day after day, going to this babysitter for lunch, that babysitter after school; getting up with her in the morning and going on her bus run with her and the school understanding you will be about half an hour later everyday, you do it. Sacrifices must be made, and you got to be a Big Boy and not get upset about it.
The resentment comes SUBCONSCIOUSLY, from deep within and you neither understand why and you feel very guilty about it.
It's about having your life controlled by someone else, not being able to decide anything. It's about not having a father and then having a mother who was never there. If you don't form attachments with your parents while young, you don't form attachments ever.
I had a provider, I didn't have a parent. Now, out of my mother and I, one person out of that equation decided to have a child with an addict who was not into being a parent, one person decided to have 2-3 jobs, have babysitters (about 30 as I recall), and maintain a certain style of life. And one person made none of those decisions or choices. Here's where resentment (subconsciously) comes from.
And the fact that you think what I describe is a 'white' problem is quite telling of YOU.
@@earthling9614 my mother has disowned most of this family and now is almost 80, an alcoholic, and a very bitter person. And do you know why?
Because she chose career over family. She's been around the world, got a beautiful home that she can't look after anymore, and a family that isn't interested in seeing her because no valid relationships were ever formed with her because she wasn't around. You see, when Ma or Pa isn't in the picture much, you don't bond with them, you don't connect while young. Thus, when grown, they aren't really at the front of your mind, because you had to figure things out without them.
My mother used to say to us: 'You made your bed, chose your choices. Now deal with it.'
That's about all I have to say myself.
The best video on this on RUclips🙏😃 you elaborate more, and comes with diverse ways of acting when having this disorder. I think the other videos are too simplistic.
So thank you for this video🙏🌸
Thank you for such wonderful feedback! I'm thrilled to hear you found the video comprehensive and helpful. It's always my goal to provide valuable insights rather than just skimming the surface. Your support is greatly appreciated!
All my whole life I thought I was weird and I felt judged having to explain why I'm always alone!! and I even lost my old age at 39 years of age and I feel that I am strange to people which makes me close myself even more, now I think maybe this is the type of disorder or the personality that I have.
At 4:20, you talk about people with Avoidant PD being hypersensitive to rejection, but people with Schizoid PD being indifferent to rejection. Well, I disagree. From my readings, those with Schizoid PD also have a fear of rejection. They may go through periods of all-consuming relationships to then have complete isolation and detachment from relationships. It’s the all-or-nothing approach to relationships, where there is a need to be completed by the other person.
Thats not true for all us schizoids.The DSM V isn't entirely reliable on that
Yeah other places say schyzoid are very sensitive to being rejected
I feel the need for approval is a strange need but at the same time i do personally fear disapproval, so although I'm not looking for approval i'd say I'm not completely indifferent, most of the time I'd be indifferent, of couse its my personal experience as diagnosed with spd
I am one. It is not a disorder. It is a blessing. It is total recognition and acceptance of reality the way it is and living ones life accordingly. Is the delusion of the crowd better? Only if you are delusional.
Ultimately it puts a limitation on overall quality of life, at least for me and every other schizoid I've seen online.
If it has been a blessing to you, then that's nice
I am one as well and don't consider it a disorder either. It's a peaceful life...
Well it handicaps me and keeps me from being able to do simple work well if I have to interact and be in a personal space. Because of that it has brought on much depression and anxiety for me
Exactly. That herd mentality and keeping up with the joneses will have you running off the cliff, eventually. I understand you gotta play the social game for survival. But doing too much of it, you'll lose yourself.
I love it having it too, but it does annoy and confuse everyone.
Have never seen a shrink and never plan to either. Life has been good to me the last 66 years. No regrets about not marrying or having kids!
As someone with lifelong AvPD, I must say that being schizoid sounds preferable!
I believe they are two variations of the same disorder. AvPD is just being unable to accept that you don't desire relationships with others as badly as society thinks you should. Avoidants think that for some reason, being accepted by others is the antidote for their loneliness when it's not. Perhaps you long for a connection with someone who "gets" you, but if you truly are around enough people you start to see that you don't want it that badly.
It's all on how you view things. I do still suffer from AvPD as well but I noticed that I seem to be veering more towards schizoid once I change my thoughts about it all. That there is nothing wrong with being a loner, there is nothing wrong with me, there is nothing I'm missing out on. Socializing is nothing but a game, and a game that some can play very well. But if others aren't truly of any interest to you, would you even still want to play the game?
Avoidants just need to realize that there is nothing they're missing out on. Schizoids have realized this and adapted through intellectualizing their solitude. It's all in the thought patterns.
I don't feel joy and everything is uninteresting and boring. It's hell.
@@theresnothinghereatall How old did it start
@@theresnothinghereatall Try talking to LLM AI like ChatGPT, Gemini, or Claude AI. I don't feel much joy either, but then I don't care enough for it to bother me ultimately.
I spend my time reading and chit chatting with AI.
"The worst loneliness is to not be comfortable with yourself." - Mark Twain
I am a schizoid person. I just click here because woman speaking is very cute and charismatic
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I’m only halfway through so far, but thank you so much. This is such a well organized video & is helping me take notes & filter through my thoughts so much more easily than many other videos on this subject. Great work
You are such a sweet person mam. You can heal anyone.
Think i have this.
Same
If you think so, seek therapy. I'm just under a year of therapy, and my quality of life has improved greatly
@@dark_fire_ice How has it improved?
I'll consider that, and I'm happy for you. I was put on meds for it, and they made my life worse.
I’m some what confused on the root problem with this diagnosis. In this video and other sources I researched they say it is different from avoidant personality disorder because the person with APD actually wants social interaction as opposed to the person with scizoid personality disorder. Is the problem that deep down the person with schizoid personality disorder does have a need to connect with others but is in denial of it as some sort of trauma response?
Read "Some Thoughts about Schizoid Dynamics" by Nancy Williams. It's short but so far is the only non-schizoid person that seems to get into the core of the schizoid personality. It's a quite refreshing read and as a adult and more emotionally mature schizoid I think she gets it really well.
I have a diagnosis for SPD, Asperger's, and disorganized schizophrenia. Do agree on most points, not all though
Wow I have never heard anything that described me so well. Only thing is I didn’t notice much of it until I was about 25 which seems a bit late?
You describe my mom as the caregiver as well. I remember in college calling my mom because I was having a mental breakdown and she told me to talk to someone else.
Also extreme depression and at least one episode of psychosis
I was diagnosed with this years ago. This fits me perfectly. Except for the sex part. Im not so big on the touchy feely stuff, but i enjoy the physical aspect of sex
Is Schizoid PD largely ego-dystonic or is it largely ego-syntonic? Do the people who have it usually experience it as a problem and suffer harm from it?
Does Schizoid PD involve disturbances of some kind - affective disturbance, intellectual disturbance, perceptual disturbance, relational disturbance, identity disturbance?
The video mentions emotional coldness, lack of empathy, lack of enjoyment and interest in romantic relationships…. but are those experienced by the person as disturbances or as deficits, or are they simply preferences or different ways of interpreting the world and expressing oneself?
Would people be more likely to get treatment for it if it was classified as a mood disorder, an anxiety disorder, or a schizophrenia spectrum disorder?
It is just a label to say you don't have gang mentality, therefore you are sooooo wrong for not being so sensitive when people want to cry about every little thing they think is microaggressive.
Can you microaggress a schizoid? Nope, we just don't care.
I'm self-diagnosed but will attempt to answer as best I can. I can only speak for myself keep in mind.
I don't really have a problem with it at all, but some others seem to. The suffering that can sometimes happens comes from the fact that the bar of expectations (socially at least) from others on to myself can be too much and there is only so much willpower I have. It can be very draining and unrewarding. On the other hand, my expectation of others is pretty low to the floor (I'm not trying to say this with a sense of superiority, it just is).
I don't really know what you're referring to there about disturbances, they sound more like schizophrenia? The only thing I can say is I know I'm not what people consider normal - but I am what I am and there's nothing fundamentally wrong with me.
As for stuff like empathy and compassion, I have as much as most but my face does not say it, hence the APPARENT coldness from the lack of affect; I've been asked a few times now if I'm a serial killer (asked in a joking way and I get where they're coming from). Not disturbances or defects, it's just so. I don't really feel a need to "express" myself as most of my time is spent alone in my head thinking outside myself.
It doesn't matter what name you give it, if I don't think I have a problem with my personality and the "treatment" involves doing things that I don't feel naturally inclined to do, then why would I do it? I've had depression for a few months now and I'm in the process of getting treatment for that.
Hope this helped dude.
I don't really see it as a problem but it does offer some unique challenges.
Mostly from others not understanding.. or being able to let me be alone
@@Tulsaistalking Thanks, Normie. That would be very frustrating to not have your need to be alone respected.
@@scottalex5218 Thanks, Scott.
I am 21. I think I have this. Is a diagnosis important?
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@@dr.beckyspelman Thanks! Will check it out.
@@dr.beckyspelman i have SPD and i have severe depression and i think i had ANHEDONIA (an inability to experience pleasure) i was raised by a single mother who was mostly a loner, she wrapped me up in cotton wool and never let me do anything as a kid unless i was strictly supervised, now she wonders why im a social cripple, i hate my mother so much, she is always inviting me over nicely but as soon as i walk in the unwanted advice starts and she tells me exactly what is wrong with me, but she always has the best response, which is if i dont tell you whats wrong with you, who will? lol, and its my responsibility to tell you whats wrong with you, so you improve yourself, see what i still have to deal with as a 40yr old INCEL, yes i am an INCEL, i want a GF< but im scared to ask women out for fear of rejection, i want a GF but i feel unworthy to have one, im not a COOL extrovert, im more a quiet boring type guy, attractive women dont want guys like that, and im not rich, only thing i would have to offer a nice woman is conversation and thats it, i probably had ADHD aspbergers as well
@@NoobMaster-or2jf how'd it go?
I was diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder with my therapist and psychiatrist.
There's no "need for connection" for me.
By now I think being schizoid is actually amazing. In my early twenties not so much because I had no idea what was going on with me. It was very confusing because I do find women attractive and can fall in love but when I actually had the chance I didn't even want a close relationship which was as confusing for her as it was for me. Also I had no real identity because one good argument by someone was enough to shift my opinion on something, I had no mental shielding. Schizoids need to work on their mental shielding to keep their identity intact, it's hard but doable. It can become a miserable state of existence real fast if you are inexperienced with it or refuse to accept it and try to be normal because you will never truly find your place that way. It can be a happy state of existence if you embrace it and build your life around it. I live alone and I barely work 20 hours a week because I don't need more to sustain my solitary lifestyle. The social aspects that eat up so much energy, time and money for others isn't something I put up with, aside from very close family. My true nemesis is boredom now, when I am through with my books/games/shows and haven't found something new yet. Other than that it's fine and dandy. I'd never seek treatment because I'm not unwell
Hell yeah, man. I feel that. I used to think I didn't like social interaction, but what I truly didn't like, was stupid, empty, hollow, pointless attention seeking. I found it a disrespectful attitude, that would constantly ruin my solitude, without any consideration... Yet when I'd tell them to go away, I apparently was being rude... I grew VERY tired of extroverts and their one sided needs. I didn't have the problem. They did...
So, if you feel like having interesting conversations, message me again and I'll let you know my Discord. You can message me whenever and there's no need to reply or not. I've made some interesting connections this way. I like to equally challenge and be open to all kinds of ideas. Obviously living a solitary life, gets in the way of lived experiences, but hearing about it (When I actually want to) from other people, is more than good enough for me.
Very easy to see alot of myself in you. I'm new to the whole schizoid diagnosis thing and it got me wondering if Schizoid is more like having a better veneer of coping/self-rationalization/etc. of their life of solitude, while AvPD is that itch for social longing that's constantly not being met.
I tend to have a very cold presentation and indifferent to social cues as much as I find them exhausting. Like, it's sort of annoying to be socially judged, but I feel like their's this inherent fickleness about people that makes their opinions not hold much relevance to me and I brush it off. Say, if i become that weird aloof guy that get's scapegoated by colleagues, I'm fine with it so long as I don't have to spend so much of my life with them (this leads me to living the 20 hr, minimalist, solitary life like yourself). Lol, I'd leave jobs that tried to promote me into working more hours and they'd be extremely confused as to why "I suddenly found a new opportunity" lol.
It's definately made me a very stingy person with my money haha! Every 2.50$ was being equated to 15 mins that I'd have to spend at work with 'those fucking people', which made it alot easier to cut expenses.
Otherwise, I can totally relate to the identity thing. I in the end adopted the "You know ALOT less than you know" and am not very opinionated due to that. It's very zen on one hand, but also lends itself to being very repulsive to others who are always discerning whether you're on their side or not.
Thanks for sharing though! I think it might've been the 1st time I read a "mirror" so to speak lol!
Can you be schizoid and schizophrenic?
I have avoident plus dependent I think avoident is similar to this one?
Schizoid: facts don't care about your feelings.
Being cold emotionally is not a bad thing seeing as how sensitive people today are soooo traumatized over the least little imaginary slight. Maybe study that personality disorder because us schizoids simply want to think rationally, not emotionally.
Do the opinions of me from others matter? Nope. And my opinion should not matter. But somehow, emotionally driven people who do not think are called normal. I would rather be schizoid than pretend to be part of a crowd that forces me to think like all of them, knowing they hate it just as much but too afraid to do anything but pretend.
And schizoids don't pretend when it comes to facts. Gang mentality is the real mental illness.
4:46 As a child I've been misdiagnosed with high functioning autism. I kinda want to find treatment because I don't enjoy a lot of things and it makes it impossible for me to know what to study.
Hallo , forgive my english , i m italian . I have a question . Just to introduce myself quickly , I m 110% skizoid , INTP Adhd adult ( maybe light ausberger ) . Very succesfull in my job , world level good in it ( nothing to do with my youtube channel , that is another topic , but a completly different field , wich i belive that my brain " problems " helped a lot to make me reach this extreme level i am now , especially adhd iperfocus , and my total lack of emotions ) .....my question is : skizoid personality is not genetic , if i understood well , come from traumas . Can i get out from it , with therapy ? Not just , coompensate chemicals with medicaments or devlopp coping mechanism trought therapy ....i mean , really , heal from it , with help indeed , but , is " healing " one of the possible outcomes ?
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@@dr.beckyspelman i was expecting a " yes or no " reply ...before commercials..😄
It is definitely genetic, and does not have to come from trauma. Also, counselling and self education through books (or videos) do help.
I feel like I might be a schizoid but I also see/hear things lol
Can you imagine what it is like to match a strongly SPD person with a strongly narcissist person in a marriage? I am pretty sure a SPD person can cure a narcissist person before a SPD person cares about the situation. I am tired of being "labeled" as a sociopath when I definitely am not. I self-diagnose as a SPD person. How can I prove I am not a sociopath / psychopath to my SO?
Why do they call you that?
The very fact that you care about your partner’s narcissism and want to cure that person shows you have empathy. You’re not going to prove yourself to your partner, it’s emotional manipulation that person is doing to call you a psychopath. Also, don’t try to cure a narcissist, because you’re not going to have any luck.
Most Schizoid people are sociopaths frankly….Because ASPD is not same as sociopathy, it has correlation, similarities with sociopathy but it’s not the same as ASPD, it’s really complex to explain it. I am diagnosed with Schizoid and ASPD by age 27. I am not a sociopath by the way only edgy people claim to be one….I am just indifferent. You can’t cure a narcissist, don’t waste your time on them. I don’t think you’re a Schizoid though…Schizoid people have no empathy, if they have empathy they have selective empathy for the people they seems to care about, out of this circle they don’t care. I guess Schizoid people are individual.
Yeah, that was me. It was a nightmare because I have this and my ex-husband is a narcissist.
Fellow SPD Gang..,what Solitary occupation/job would you recommend???
Stock day trading
Join the military then go AWOL and become a mercenary warlord in various third-world countries
A STEM job is desirable if you're capable of the bare minimum of social interaction required. Personally I'm trying to get a job in Data Science.
Writer, librarian, analyst, researcher, designer, programmer, lighthouse keeper.
@@lukeg8466 same here
I just want to know how it feels to have feelings again,iam not even happy,I cant even cry,no excitement ,only thinking why we exist if one day we all gonna die in the end,I just think what it means to have bond,what is love and hate.
I dont know what to do due to this condition I have nobody to talk about this how can I overcome it?.
I have this disorder from last 6 years now iam 18 i didnt knew that i was suffering from this.
First the disclaimer:
1)I don't know if I have SPD but it seems likely at least a moderate version.
2) I feel like depression is more your issue than SPD. All those symptoms sound like depression, they are not unique to SPD. And while having SPD may overlap and strengthen those symptoms, the depression sounds to me like the main thing your suffering from. you may get more benefit from trying to treat your symptoms as depression. However, if it is SPD or at least exacerbated by SPD, here's how I've kind of put my life together in an enjoyable way while (maybe) having SPD
3) for real though, see a therapist. My "advice" is very tailored to me and its seems like you have more going on than just SPD
In terms of overcoming the negative elements of SPD. I feel like a lot of the thing we don't experience comes from trying to avoid the mental taxation of such things. People aren't fun to hang out with because it's so much effort to mirror back emotions. Hobbies aren't fun because they take too much physical/mental effort to get good at it or even build interest. So finding ways to unburden those activities is the key.
Anhedonia - strive for pleasure if not outright fun. "Fun" or "passion" sometimes seems too overwhelming for me. I mostly just want to read, or draw, or lay in the sun, so I do those things. I wasn't passionate at art when I first started it, but I was remotely into it so I started doing it as a "might as well" type activity. Even majoring in art in University was like, "I like it better than business so I guess I'll do art". And the more I got entrenched in it, the more easy and automatic is became, in terms of skill and in terms or the mental emotional effort to stick with it. I say try something you don't hate and return to it every time you get bored. Try to NOTICE the times when you are remotely interested in things and revisit it and build off of it. Like if you NOTICE the sun is really nice today, follow that. Go outside. if you notice a simple TikTok of a delicious recipe looks good to you. Try and recreate it. Even the smallest things. If you notice your legs feel really good after sitting down, double down on it. Grab a blanket, some tea and sit down real good. Slowly you build habits that you enjoy. Eventually you'll be able to surround yourself with things you enjoy. LIke sitting on the couch after work with your blanket every day will by an extra positive 20 minutes you add to your day, maybe you'll find something you like doing while your sitting, knitting, researching history, reading, whatever. The noticing and following through is perhaps the most important part. You need to strengthen the smallest things you enjoy and hopefully it will add up.
Emotions - I feel like there's a stoniness that stabilizes and keeps contained my emotions. It is so much the default that it feels genuinely unsettling to laugh hard. When genuine strong emotions start to come out it's like a reflex where I ,,like shut them down. It's like there's an emergency "power down button" that gets hit almost before the emotion even arrives. Sometimes it's a social reflex like it's awkward if someone sees me laugh at a movie so I won't and it becomes so automatic that it's not even something I notice I'm doing. NOTICE it and do your best to let it through. Set a new default
Connection - Find someone who like to engage in "parallel play" where you're kind of doing separate things, side by side. Like both reading your own separate books, or playing a mutiplayer game like Stardew Valley, where there's the option to work together or you can just roam around by yourself while technically playing together. For me I almost joined a sketching-in-a-coffeeshop meet-up because you can just absorb the socialness while really just doing your own thing. There is a little conversation needed but really very little. When there isn't so much brain fatigue, emotional closeness comes way more easily. There is always going to be some work, making yourself be social but once there's a spark of connection it gets easier and easier.
The pointlessness of life - things seems more meaningful once you've built a cozy life situation you are motivated to maintain so is more a by-product of the lacking of the above things caused by SPD. It is not inherent in SPD so I'm not sure I have too much advice on this one other than taking care of it in the way one would take care of depression, whatever that is. I haven't really been depressed but I definitely identify with the stress of feeling listless, and unconnected.
🤷I don't know. Hope this helps in someway. Good luck
What personality disorders would you say notrodamius had . would you say he had a disorder.?
Pre traumatic stress disorder?
Currently I m facing this disorder I don't know how to face it ...
Embrace it. You'll have it for life. Emotion is over-rated. I'm seldom happy, but almost never mad, or sad. It takes a lot to trigger my anger at all, but even then it falls away precipitously. My mother died 10 years ago. I mourned her and was sad. 3 days later I stopped thinking about her.
Relationships.
Not interested, could not care any less. Books are far more interesting. When I began schooling, I had a goal, a major, an interest. That dissolved in a hurry. One interest became three, three became six. A single lifetime sucks. You can't learn fast enough. A genius couldn't do it.
I HAVE to be alone ! My pea brain can't do EVERYTHING. I simply would rather study than eat, sleep, socialize, sex,
have friends, or 🕺💃.
Call it cognitive dissonance. 🙂 I like that.
Always establishing distance with 'any' kind of relationship; risks far out weigh any benefits.
Defensiveness - not really.
Against what ? No anxiety based disorders ( Amy longer).
Psychosis ? Well, I know what's real (all too damn well) but I prefer unreality;
it's both more intellectually as well as emotionally challenging and satisfying.
Subtypes ? Boy, you're on trouble. As soon as you 'schiz' a schizoid - your whole foundation (if there is any) becomes more and more unstable.
Aspergers ? Big-time over-
lap, yeah. Debilitating OCD
at one time. (? - all the way to washing 'unclean' contaminated rocks ! ! !).
Genetic and Environmental
etiology - not doubt in 'my'
mind. The real trouble is the complete absence of one diog. from any two head doctors. 🤪
Mimicking 'Autistic Spectrum Disorder'; well,
👱♀️ or 👨 or 🦊🦌🦝 maybe 🌲or EVEN 👺? -
Any difference is subjective entirely; no Aristotelian reasoning necessary !
[ yeah he/she is definitely -
🤡🤪😐].
Maladaptive schema, I like that. If you've any problem with loneliness,
you're fine. But a strong preference for solitary ANYTHING, and you've got a loose 📪 ?
I think not.
10:45 to ~ 11:30, the overall verbiage, and references, and nebulous context, please.
If you are someone who prefers to be alone, NO WORRIES. Please don't misunderstand this young woman. She (I don't believe) is suggesting that 'per se'. There isn't a thing wrong with that. In fact,
I am personally of the opinion, - that what it is you may fear is 🤪normal,
is in fact a great deal more healthful. Remember, -
the 'status quo' designs 'normality'; even the DSM
references this 'constituency' when itemizing everyone's 'I'm OK - you're OK world.
Psych. processionals are strongly encouraged to 'label' you; indeed, this interest is vested in more than you're well-being.
Relax.
Sexual interest - None.
Praise or criticism - couldn't care less.
Emotional coldness ? - I think his idea is rather detached. It certainly is not me. "Doesn't my schizy and disorganized writing style suggest this" ? 🙂
Man, Guntrip (sic😷)'s
nine characteristics are a rather incongruous mess,
in my sick opinion.
If you're motivated you don't need drugs 😐 - now that's an open-ended declarative statement if I have ever heard one.
Dopaminenergic ? Disregulation ? in schizophrenia. Well, that is no doubt in force among a billion other 'ailments'.
What a mess. Are you all clear now ? Brother.
In med school, every disease, abnormality, and ailment discussed suddenly you'll be self- diagnosed with.
All his enigmatic tech. talk is so unnecessary.
Just relate to people man.
It's so simple, just relax.
I'd rather be insane anyway. Normality is boring as hell; it's dull.
Go crazy, it's so much more fun and satisfying.
99% sure I’m schizoid. 100% sure if I had finished trying to read this comment I would have had a stroke 🫠
@@nataliediaz8981 WALL OF TEXT.
I think I may have this except I’m not asexual. But may be aromantic. I like the physical contact of sex but not the intimacy.
This is not a bad disorder to have.
Thank you for watching
Are you kidding the worst
You might not be a danger to yourself or others. But the social isolation can place you at a heightened risk of being victimized by others.
@@dr.beckyspelman i love how you touch your glasses every now and than, its so hot, im just a sucker for a brunette with glasses and is a little nerdy, your perfect and your smart, it would be a pleasure for you to be my personal therapist, maybe one day hey. ha ha
@@dr.beckyspelman you are a very smart woman, and that is an extreme compliment as i rarely say that to anyone, i have a question for you Dr, sometimes i feel i am BETTER than most people, i think i do that to live with myself better, but on the other hand the other half of the time i think im worse than everyone else and a loser, because i have a terrible low paying job, i cant get a date, i hate my family, so what is that disorder called, where sometimes im a narcisist and i think im better than everyone else, i think i have much more common sense than most people, and im great at financial matters and saving/investing, but on the other hand i have very low self esteem, im still scared to ask women out, im scared to quit my job and try and get a better job etc... what is this called, does it have a professional name?
No Patric reading from McWilliams is not a new content
Ha, I was bullied.
I just decided to hate most people.
Seems to work for me.
Never diagnosed, but definitely me. I'd be interested in drug protocols with some balls - psychonaut on erowid kinda stuff. It's not a marginal improvement type situation. I've done some pretty radical experimentation, myself. 14g psilocybin seemed to catalyze a general abstract restructuring that enhanced my ability to introspect and articulate previously inexplicable notions, though the "changes" manifest over the course of months following. I think something like MDMA, aniracetam or other pro-social pro-empathy nootropics would be an interesting thing to try as well. If you have this, and you shatter all your illusions, you're just in hell.
Aetiology research in this area is effectively post hoc reasoning bullsh1t
I like being schizoid
Damn doc😍🥰
Saying that schizoids and avoidants can be differentiated by rejection sensitivity is false. Schizoids are, in fact, extremely sensitive to rejection. A schizoid is so sensitive, they will prefer to internalize the outer objects and create elaborate fantasies about them instead of risking the rejection and destroying their fantasies. The DSM and ICD manuals really are not very good at diagnosing schizoids, because of its full focus on outward appearance rather than the internal world of the schizoid that is split off from the outer one.
Im still 15 years old and im not sure if i have this or i just really got fiesty everytime 🙆🏻♀️. I love being around people hanging out and even wanna get involve in relationshipd later when im alllowed already,,,but also there are just these times like 15 mins ago where my younger cousin went knocking on the window and i exploded and shouted at her. It always happens to me specailly around kids,, it even went to the point i ask mom to ask them move out from the house cuz i cant stand them always being arround me asking nonsense questions repeatedly and wont stop running around the wholee dayy,,i dont like it when theres alot of people gathering for occassions here in the house,and dont talk too much like i was before,im gonna just smile to whatever they say cuz i dont want to make the concersation longer😭
"I love being around people"
No, you are absolutely not Schizoid, like any average person, you just like to have your own personal space sometimes and also have your own preferences as to whom you want to interact with.
A person with schizoid personality absolutely doesn't want to deal with any kind of social interaction, and quite literally doesn't have and don't care to have any friend, in some situations they won't even keep in contact with any family member. Additionally, they will try to avoid showing strong emotions like anger, sadness or happiness.
You are just simply too young to have patient with people that is younger than you and you just don't like random people in your house, and again these are just typical responses towards treasuring one's own personal space.
Yes, and constant war stories.
what a babe.
I HAVE SCIZOID ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER
THANK YOU 😊
Schzoids are asocial, not antisocial.
And untreated add/adhd will result into this? Or Aspenger?
No.
Results in neither dude
@@gastong3311 ok i understand Your point guys but if you have add even without hyperactivity You feel very weird in children collectives,just like you dont belong there,it can lead to introvercy,self underestimation,social anxiety,even into adulthood.Probably not the same as schizoid personality disorder,but samewthat close?
My brother I’m pretty sure has this and he’s very abusive to me. I’m trying to figure out how to help him but I can’t find much about schizoids being abusive. But he hates people and being around them so much that he is cruel to them and especially me. I am not a psychologist but when I look at the DSM my brother marks off all key characteristics of this disorder but one. And that is sex. He did have a girlfriend once and I know he’s interested in women. But I don’t think he’s interested in having relationships with them. Just sex. But besides that he had every symptom. He avoids everyone. He is apathetic. I don’t know what else to say he just REALLY hates being around people. Like to the point that he gets angry and abusive if he has to be around people too long. He does not work because he has issues having to socialize at work and he won’t go to college for the same reason. Even tho their is online he says he can’t focus if he has to live around people. He’s not autistic. He’s not stupid or crazy. But he’s not very nice and he hates everyone.
Sounds more like antisocial pd than schizoid, people with spd hate confrontation and will change their habits once they have exited a social situation in order to avoid them in the future, getting angry doesn’t sound like a typical presentation. Sorry to hear about what you are going through.
@@sklitterbeer106 I’d say so but he’s good to animals and loved our childhood cat and dog so I don’t think it’s that since APD people often aren’t kind to animals. I don’t think he’s devoid of feeling sorry for others he just care about himself far more. I wonder if he’s not a very introverted covert narcissist with schizoid. It may not be typical for most to get angry but he’s defiantly got the symptoms of schizoid besides that