I'm so curious whether we know whether Chevalier d'Eon was a real transgender, or was she forced to put on that role (woman) to hide his real identity as a spy?
She was always trans, the spy mission merely made her aware of that fact. She made the choice to remain outwardly-presenting-female because it's what she wanted.
The life of Philippe D'Orleans, brother of the king Louis XIV, is interesting too. Considered as the grand father of Europe he was wearing dresses since childhood and was openly gay. And he had a lot of children with his two wives because it was his job...
no one finds it strange that its the americans and brits putting on this show and not the french. sure you'll get a couple interviews. you guys are always shaping history. lets see if you put this in its appropriate and proper historical context or do you beautify it and align it with todays current narratives?
What's being changed here? What's being "beautified"? It's a historical account of a Transgender Woman working as a spy for King Louis, and then, when finished with her mission, remaining publicly transgender with the King's full approval. That just sounds like a woman who had her life together.
Everybody knows the name of Chevalier d'Eon in France and the meaning. The first time I heard his story was in elementary school and the teacher was spoken about mysteries in french history. And the secret that doctors never talked about was to know if his sexual attributes were male or female. One century before Chevalier d'Eon the brother of Louis XIV, Philippe duke d'Orleans was educated since childhood like a girl, wearing dresses. Another mystery for historians was to know if Richard Lionheart was gay because he was sleeping in the bed of a prince of France. I think that in France, catholic country, the transgressions to the norms are assumed and people accepted it.
Yep... they were real. And Princess Sissi was real too! There's a beautiful anime about D'Eon that came out almost 20 years ago. Check it out if you can!
I don’t get it all everything we’ve been told in history was a big lie right there I’m sticking the Bible like glue goodnight everyone 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
This is gorgeously delightful but I am going to take it to the 21st century because the law has. Concerning women sports - one of the opposite gender can only compete in womens' sports if that one is anatomically correct. No apologies. The playing field has to be leveled off. IF transgendered females were allowed to play pro football, in the USA - the bone went through JOE THEISMANNS' skin, when they broke his leg, I watched it - they'd kill a woman. I am not saying there are no bad women out there. I am saying, if a transgendered man wants to compete in womens' sports, they must be anatomically correct and vice versa. Great documentary.
I'm so curious whether we know whether Chevalier d'Eon was a real transgender, or was she forced to put on that role (woman) to hide his real identity as a spy?
Certainly seems like the latter, at least at the beginning. Got into it, though.
When he returned to Frznce the king asked him to choose.
She was always trans, the spy mission merely made her aware of that fact. She made the choice to remain outwardly-presenting-female because it's what she wanted.
Every nice documentary. 👏
Very fascinating piece of history 🖤
The anime brought me here! (Of course, there's a sci-fi aspect to it.)
Sauce?
cool! I don't see people's issue with this, they don't want to believe that people have broken gender for centuries.
The life of Philippe D'Orleans, brother of the king Louis XIV, is interesting too. Considered as the grand father of Europe he was wearing dresses since childhood and was openly gay. And he had a lot of children with his two wives because it was his job...
Me watching this at like 2:16am
There is Nothing New Under the Sun.
Absolutely NOTHING 😏
no one finds it strange that its the americans and brits putting on this show and not the french. sure you'll get a couple interviews. you guys are always shaping history. lets see if you put this in its appropriate and proper historical context or do you beautify it and align it with todays current narratives?
What's being changed here? What's being "beautified"?
It's a historical account of a Transgender Woman working as a spy for King Louis, and then, when finished with her mission, remaining publicly transgender with the King's full approval.
That just sounds like a woman who had her life together.
Everybody knows the name of Chevalier d'Eon in France and the meaning. The first time I heard his story was in elementary school and the teacher was spoken about mysteries in french history. And the secret that doctors never talked about was to know if his sexual attributes were male or female. One century before Chevalier d'Eon the brother of Louis XIV, Philippe duke d'Orleans was educated since childhood like a girl, wearing dresses.
Another mystery for historians was to know if Richard Lionheart was gay because he was sleeping in the bed of a prince of France.
I think that in France, catholic country, the transgressions to the norms are assumed and people accepted it.
I saw him in Assassin's creed Unity!
I have to check that out. By any chance did you see the anime about them?
Little did I know….
A Brother Freemason
Wow he's real! He's a character on Time Princess. I didn't know.
Yep... they were real. And Princess Sissi was real too! There's a beautiful anime about D'Eon that came out almost 20 years ago. Check it out if you can!
@@robynsegg Cool I will thanks 👍
10:56
A mild way to tell us he was living a lie all along😏
Learns, no. Learn, YES!
Transvestite, not transgender.
She chose to live as a woman in the final years of her life. Pay attention.
Rewriting of history.
How so?
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I don’t get it all everything we’ve been told in history was a big lie right there I’m sticking the Bible like glue goodnight everyone 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
This is gorgeously delightful but I am going to take it to the 21st century because the law has.
Concerning women sports - one of the opposite gender can only compete in womens' sports if that one is anatomically correct. No apologies.
The playing field has to be leveled off.
IF transgendered females were allowed to play pro football, in the USA - the bone went through JOE THEISMANNS' skin, when they broke his leg, I watched it - they'd kill a woman. I am not saying there are no bad women out there. I am saying, if a transgendered man wants to compete in womens' sports, they must be anatomically correct and vice versa.
Great documentary.
Stop transing the dead
Transgender people have always existed. They’re just telling a story
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