How the UK and China Went From Friends to Foes
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
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In this video, we're examining the recent UK sanctions on China for hacking the Electoral Commission, signaling a notable shift in relations. We'll explore the decade-long deterioration, its drivers, and what might come next.
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0:00 Intro
0:59 The “Golden Era” of UK-China Relations
3:53 End of the Golden Era
6:03 Will the UK and China ever be mates again?
6:51 Sponsor
Nothing surprises me, as British foreign policy simply mirrors that of the US.🤣
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Yeah and Chyna isn’t wanted or liked
you mean subservient to US foreign policy.
It's called alliance, together we're stronger against the aggressors
I really dont think china notices what england says. Its more for the domestic audience to feel the UK matters. Im from the UK btw...
My take: US told us to do so or else.
The U.S did the same with Mexico multiple times, they just did what they wanted....
Yeah....
My take: is china any different? pick a side and stay there
Agree, pick a side and STAY DOWN boy.
@@ytrewq12345How about some neutrality
My take: UK worldview aligns more closely with the US on the threats posed by Russia and China, than it does with the EU. Also the UK is now trying to prioritise strategic thinking over short term profit.
France is probably coming round to our way of thinking because their interests in Africa have been affected by Russia plus the Ukraine invasion. Germany is the laggard because its manufacturing industry was relying on cheaper Russian gas, so it is most exposed by the geopolitical realignment.
Countries don't have friends, they have interests.
Not just interested but as family
Nope
@@Finnbobjimbob are you replying to me or the main comment for a ask
@@lyalljunior975 Main comment
@@Finnbobjimbob ok no worries I thought we might start world internet war comment section in here 😂🤣👍
Where are the lost glory of British, It's only a puppy of the United States
Allies think and do alike otherwise its not an alliance, together we are stronger and the strong will prevail
Funny to assume China would think of the UK as ‘friends’😂😂😂 cough Opium wars cough
Whilst the opium wars have a strong place in Chinese shared history, the world doesn’t operate like that. Only 70 years ago Britain fought Germany now were nato allies. A lot has happened since then. It’s just stupidly reductive to utilise one fact you happen to know about history and use that as evidence of poor Britain china relations.
Chinese aren't africans that are perpetually triggered by white people lol
I'm a Chinese who came to west to study. The opium war is mostly used as a tool to teach nationalism and antiwestern sentiment. So basically a government's tool to whip out whenever it wants people to attack the west. During the 80s to up until 2010s, when China was trying to attract western money and technologies, the opium war was hardy used. Of course, now it's brought out of storage more and more, especially when the government wants to blame foreigners for the economic slow down.
To be fair, China isn't the only one to use some old history as scapegoats and excuses. An artist in Germany used a 20 year old tresty to become dictator and start a little war. The Soviets used the foreign intervention during the 1917 revolution. The vietnamese use the 1000 years of imperial China occupation. The African Americans still use slavery that ended 160 years ago...revanchism is a tool that has been used since ancient times. It's just more effective when you have full control of the media and can censor voices for reason.
This is a Hongkonger living in Beijing. Basically whether China would think of the UK as a "friend" is entirely political. However in recent years, due to the British stance in dealing with the Hong Kong problem, as well as national defense policy being provocative to Beijing, The Chinese attitude towards the UK is turning worse as well. But in my opinion, the mainland Chinese usually are quite hostile towards the "American and Western powers" (美西方) as a whole though, due to the US being allies with the EU and the UK. I can't deny that there might be some historical sentiment towards said "powers", but I can safely say that it's not the main reason why the mainland Chinese have patriotic grudges towards the West. Rather, the main reason is more towards the modern policies towards China (as well as Hong Kong's colonial past.)
(As a side note though, the British policy towards Hong Kong are being perceived as a long-arm jurisdiction of the British Empire, trying to cling to its colonial past and to secure its grasp towards Chinese soil. It's really not a good look for the UK, in the eyes of 1.4 billion mainland Chinese, as well as the pro-China half of the Hong Kong people.)
Exactly, they are still very sore about the ‘century of humiliation’. The CCP loves blaming others and they really love blaming the west. This allows them to act however they want until they are confronted, then they act like a victim. Then China took Hong Kong….so this whole political breakdown makes sense. I would have been surprised if the UK and China were ‘friends’ for long.
UK and china were never friends, just usually not enemies
Face reality China already think west is enemy.
Opium War
Opium War
Brits are always a little delusional about their place and relationships in the world.
@@doc0core I did say "usually"
Why would China even bother with little nobody UK? Cities like Beijing and Shanghai each have populations of 20 or More millions. So one city is already a third of the entire population of UK
It doesn't, who says China cares?
Lots of Chinese trolls, trolling about China apparently not being bothered.
Remember when depicting an image of Winnie the Pooh was classed as a national security issue in China because Xi happens to be the spitting image of him. Yeah, I'm sure China isn't bothered about Britain.
What's the population got to do with anything? so china has a big population. Does that make them more important than anyone else?🤡
Btw you forgot to add the reduction from the wuhan virus as i see china suffered a lot even after the UK, etc, was at the stage of recovering😂
LoL, UK is one of the worlds three trillion dollar tech economies as well as a leading center for scientific & academic research second only to the USA. It pretty much invented most of the technologies the modern world you live in depends on & is the world leader in many fields such as fusion, AI, material sciences, bio science's & other advanced technologies. If you're going to send out spy's to commit espionage then the UK is top of your list.
@@TheTraveler2222 Shear scale of spy's China has committed to espionage in the UK tell's you all you need to know.
6:29 I really have to disagree with this. Sure Europe hasn't been as extreme in their anti-China policies as America but, well, Europe is never as extreme as America about anything anyway. The EU is still moving away from China, that much is obvious.
The EU really can do no wrong in a TLDR comment section
European history show otherwise.
@@georgiewalker5826 Funny you'd say that because I actually think they are wrong and that they should take a tougher stance on China. Sometimes, extreme measures are necessary. But I still know that, given how slow and measured the EU does anything, they're really moving away from China as fast as they possibly could.
There's a difference between moving away from and "hyper hawkish" as the video states, EU still doesn't ban US companies from dealing with China (like the US does with ASML) and EU doesn't have military beside China or signing defence clauses with all countries around China. To be clear I'm passing NO judgement on these policies but to say the EU is moving away from China but not 1 millionth of a percent as much as USA is exactly what the video is stating. The EU will still trade with China. And if the UK Labour and Trump in US wins then the UK will align back to the EU and follow it on this. As it will align and follow the EU more with time anyways.....
@@giantWario The EU couldn't get together to stop Serbian mass murder and rape camps. Why would they take a strong stance against China?
Dodgy David was always, 'only in it for the money', taken him a while to realise that there's more important things in life.
wow guess rishis super woke and progressive now he's off that china teat huh
@@porridgeramen7220
About as likely as Charlie abdicating in favour of Ginger.
@@porridgeramen7220 are u able to explain "woke"? :) - its just a fkn up words by smallminded people and used as catchphrase from the far rights.
The thing is, UK doesn’t have diplomatic independence. China and UK are very different countries, and very far apart, so it’s difficult and precious when we make it deal. And then a few months later you just throw away the deal because the Americans told you to… So what’s the fucking point of talking to you anymore? We now prefer talking to your masters directly instead.
The UK and China have never been friends , China will never forget the opium Wars, The first Opium War was fought between China and Great Britain from 1839 to 1842. In the second Opium War, from 1856 to 1860, a weakened China fought both Great Britain and France...SO I hope you understand where China is coming from.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.. but only when you are vastly superior to your target in all the ways that matter. 😅
@@MeepMeepington-jz4hy I am pretty sure she/he used the word China not Chinese.
Except the riot kids in Hongkong, they thought it was the British who tried to stopped th eChinese govt on feeding the people with drugs. How educated these kids are.
As a Chinese lived in UK for over 20years. To be fair optium war is far less bad as Japanese. We do admit the weak country power at that time and bad government cause UK make the deal and ship drugs as a trade item. It may be a way UK did to obtain benefit but UK at that time had the biggest fist as US now. I really hope both countries can have a great relationship and UK could decoupling with US a bit and have her own decisions to benefit UK rather than just blindly follow America...Good relationship could bring way more economical benefit and reduce the effect of Brexit
@@HyperpigGaming obviously u were not brought up from a boarding school in the UK…..what u said is very kind of you, showing u hv a good heart. However, it somewhat tells me u r not seeing the real big picture at the top level conversation. Enslaving other countries and exploiting their labour and resources were the objectives of theirs. We were never viewed as one of them, Man U hv to wake up. Try getting their VP jobs or CEO jobs then u will know the Brits never treated us as equal.
I hope we're all going to have a totally cheerful day soon!
My friend , can you return Chinese antiquities back to us?Or we should come to London do some shopping ourselves just like you did.
when?
@@niceiceman when the time comes.
China with a billion people lost a war to the tiny UK. Major skill issue on Chinas part
@@allcoolmrdon First UK was not very tiny by the time.We have overestimated the morality of UK that's for sure.China refused opium trade of sake of our people, UK waged war upon us and plundered our country .Are you telling me we are the one to be blame?The rest of world is coming to you for reckoning.
@@allcoolmrdon First UK was not so tiny by the time.China had only 400 million population while UK had plenty "subject" to go a round. We overestimated the morality of UK that's for sure.China refused opium trade of sake of our people, you waged war upon us and plundered our country .Are you telling me we are the one to be blame?The rest of world is coming to you for reckoning.
"And, also, because demand for dollars as reserve assets, allows for US government to borrow tons of money -which irritated China- " 2:40
Can anyone give a rational explanation as to how US dollar - being such an international currency - enables US government to borrow more money than it would have done, if US dollar were *not* a reserve currency?
It is hard to see how the relationship with China is any different form the relationship europe had with Russia up to two years ago.
When did Britain become a friend of China? This kind of thing can never happen, just look at the British Museum and you'll know why
'There's no news, like bad news'
The behavior of UK depends on what instructions the master USA gives
Chinese bot
@@frankleespeaking9519 你好，😂
@@frankleespeaking9519 Its true, uk licks us balls
@@frankleespeaking9519 US bot
@@chongzhouliu7893 It took you a day to come up with that?
"Lord David Cameron" - still sounds like a joke :)
USA… why wasted 8 minutes
We were never ever friends to begin with, what do you mean "fellout"?
Speak for yourselves, me, a British citizen has no quarrel with the Chinese people, in fact I love them as much as my own people, but the political peoples like to play with peoples lives as if they where there own…
😂😂😂😂😂
Any evidence to the accusation of hacking?
i'd say you'd have to go back a bit further than the 2010s...
TLDR: China acted like China
God damn, was this the message of this video? Europeans sure are delusional...
No the US told uk to jump and the 51st done a backflip
TLDW: Britain acted like Washington's Vassal.
@@skp8748 Try again comrade and this time ask for more than fifty cents.
@@pr0newbie Britain has historically been much more of a global leader than china.
4:20 lovely spelling
Sunset empire under Sunak would be becoming worse because he is the worst of all OM.
The reason Turkey isn’t accepted into the EU is because of a few reasons: its laws are not fully aligned with Europe, it’s an Islamic country which would make it a gateway country into Europe for Muslim extremists and also the conflict with Syria.
Otherwise it’d be a decent country to join
...Ukraine is paying attention 👂
China did not do anything. UK was also on good terms with China, until USA stepped in and the Brits had to obey to their master. This is a tragic end.
I would like to see some coverage of the Iran Pakistan pipeline news
This is happening to China with everyone.
No, just with the west and it's allies. And it's on purpose. China has learned from Khrushchev's policy of 'peaceful coexistence'.
And Russia too. Both are benefiting enormously from the popularity of social media platforms in the west as a means to normalise sympathetic views towards both the CCP and the Putin regime.
We shouldn't verbalise the prospect of conflict until the very last second when it becomes inevitable, but the Chinese-Russian alliance and their use of radicalisation tactics on social media is making some sort of confrontation all but inevitable at this point.
We can't trade / diplomacy our way out of this. Hopefully either china or Russia get tired of these regimes and mobilise to remove them, but there's not much hope of that happening.
@@tempejkl LOL! Tell that to the member states of ASEAN! Africa is catching a wake up too. It's the only the MIddle Eastern countries and one or two basket case Latin American states that are buy China's crap.
Everyone?
U need to go back to school!
"and its allies"
I.e most of Asia and all the ordinary Africans they've alienated
What's "wolf warrior" diplomacy all about?
Instead of sanctions, how about improving cyber security? Bunch of clowns, as always.
Because there was no cyber threat. Its made up to justify the sanctions
1. Brexit. it's always brexit lol
Worht it! 😂
The UK is scuppered. The Towns and Cities outside the financial bubble all in decline and no sign of anything resembling a clear plan to reinvigorate and progress . Out of the E.U , out of viable trade partners, to make up the lost revenue from that. Not even a duck and cover pamphlet, for when the wind blows. Wear your Mushroom with pride.
China needs the US dollars not to earn it and keep but need it to get value transfers from other countries in the world. Most dollars earned are quickly spent on infrastructures around the world. before you know it , China will be the richest in terms of assets just like a rich man having properties in China and the world....
Yes, meanwhile China is not trying to replace the US dollars ... until it has Yuan as the main currency used.
China's property bubble is collapsing the value of all those assets
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
that is pure rubbish . It does not work that way .
the property bubble is China's way to correct the speculation and the value is hardly measure to China's real wealths ...
I dont think you know economics nor China's economy.
It is like saying a rich Chinese with properties all over the country and the world and some of its properties in a little town collapsng that rich man is collapsing and all his factories ,infrastrutures around entire China is collapsing.
Return all the stolen treasure.
4:22 "It's gonna make brexit worht it" typo
5:30 probably should be "affected"
Wow... The deliberate use of provocative language here is so in your face.
I guess you're getting plenty of funding from the NED
Wonder if Turkey would have become more western and less radical if they became part of the EU, or if it would just make things worse.
TLDR can we have a CANZUK video?
It’s not a thing. It’s a fantasy of a small group, not something any nation is interested in pursuing.
It was already unlikely to happen but with Boris out for years now it's practically impossible. He's really the only one whom might have been able to make progress towards it
@@mappingshaman5280 I think on the Uk side there isn’t much hope but in places like Australia or Canada both ministers have talked about support
Dunno if future UK PM or NZ PM would be supportive of the idea
@@lachief237 i mean its a semi solution to the eu, but sadly it doesnt gain much support, its a good idea though, most people brush it of a neo imperial pipedream, but its rather about the uk strengthening its ties withi ts power bloc (ie; uk, us, canada and new zealand) but it has come to fruition with things like aukus and five eyes and hopefully more things come forward in the future, we need to move away from the us dominance and canzuck is definately a solid idea for that.
@@vector246 But only the UK is looking for a solution to the Brexit problems that it created for itself. Canada, Australia and New Zealand don’t perceive that as an issue that needs resolution.
Five Eyes existed with a UK in the EU for decades, so it’s not needed for that. AUKUS involves the USA, so CANZUK would confuse things if anything.
1) The UK advocates of CANZUK predominantly come across as hankering for old empire, which might sell the idea to the English, but is actively unappealing to other countries, as it’s obvious they would expect the UK to be the preeminent partner.
2) The UK has demonstrated that it’s a selfish treaty partner that can’t be trusted not to bitch and leave if it gets unhappy. Nobody would be rushing to sign an EU-like treaty with the nation that just left the EU after decades complaining about it. Smaller cooperative agreements are much more palatable.
3) CANZ have all had major waves of non UK migration. How would politicians sell putting the (white majority parts of) empire back together to people who don’t have any fondness for that idea?
Well, this is embarrassing.
The Uk’s master said so.
Just do what we told😢
I shall order some Butter Chicken and mix them with Fish Fingers.
Western countries, or at least their large companies, have spent the last 60 years exporting production and knowhow to the Far East, especially China. With China's recent military-political shenanigans and disruption of long-range global supply lines, many are now reshoring or at least shifting production and finance to West Asia. USA's reindustrialisation plans are well advanced.
What plans do the UK's government and Big Business have to reindustrialise Britain? Such a move would counter the lack of progress on post-Brexit trade negotiations and strengthen the tax base since production jobs tend to be well-paid and create multiple small support industries.
China's recent military -political Shenanigans? Surely you got that wrong right?
@@TheRealMcCoyAndChipsAhoy 9 dash line, India-China border...
They probably won’t reindustrailise UK , just shift the supply lines to friendlier countries in SE Asia.
PS, you can hire a Vietnamese for a month the price of $200
@@TheRealMcCoyAndChipsAhoy you think their overreach of Philippines sea territory is not political shenanigan?
Know what really is happening ... deshoring or shifting production .. is pure nonsense. In fact opposite is true.
Those who did do some offshoring are in fact mostly Chinese owned companies like going to mexico for the US markets. Nothing more.
If you see now the infrastructures China is undergoing , it will be the next miracle after the first miracle of China from dirt poor country to the top economy of the world even better than US...
Hey can you do a same video with India?
Naa, india is a reasonable friend and trading partner for the UK unlike china.
@@robertjohn6585 i get it totally. But since sunak took office, the trade deal with india which was supposed to happen as promised by his predecessors david and boris, is going nowhere. Also given the fact that labour who are traditionally anti india are set to win general elections this time, i can only see relationship getting deteriorating
@@sumukhshankarhegde2853 i agree and it's a real shame because china is the real threat and we should be trying to bring india closer to the west not alienating them.
The People's Republic of China betrayed the Hong Kong handover-agreement. The one-country-two-systems promise is almost not existing anymore. The UK gave back the island of Kawloon on the condition that this agreement would be respected. The New Territories were leased for 99 years, but Kawloon was rightful souverain British territory. If the agreement wasn't respected, than also the handover of Kawloon is null.
Прежде чем требовать что то у Китая, сначала отрастите себе яица. Через 99 лет, великобритания будет синонимом развала и нулевого влияния. Хотя....уже 😂
@@villigutvilligut4201 Через 99 лет люди к востоку от озера Байкал будут говорить только по-китайски, а не по-русски. Буряты, якуты и т. д., если они еще будут существовать, будут этническими меньшинствами в Большом Китае.
When US ordered UK to toe the line…
"friends to foes".... yeah, someone who gets you addicted to drugs to take adbantage of you, isn't a friend.
Opium Wars
@@alanc457 yeah and China took back hong Kong
England was never a friend of China or the Chinese people. Take a look at England's history with China and the Chinese people.
Uk foreign policies is deteriorating day by day. With whom does UK have a good relationship except the USA atm
Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, India, Israel, South Korea and many more!
It is perhaps misleading to think of the UK as an independent country. It hasn't been one for over a hundred years. The final nail in the coffin was losing the second world war.
Kinda cute for UK to think they are qualified to be China's foe
Mainly foolish, but still a bit cute
Ironic that TLDR doesn’t proofread “worht it”.
UK is playing what Australia Morrison drama was running. UK outside EU is a nobody now. Now no one wants to host the commonwealth game at all. Just rejected by Malaysia lately, UK likely have to terminate the game or host it in UK. No one can save the queen country, if UK is so determine to finish it.
All of china's neighbors hate them
All of china's neighbors have problems with china
All of china's neighbors dislike china
Xhina is surrounded by countries who have problems with them
Simply because US ordered UK to do so.
What baffles me is western money and trade is what has made china so strong. Yet why are we at each others throats? Why cant humans just get along? If we all worked together imagine what could be achieved.........
China pre existed mythical west by 15000 years .
West doesn't even exist now . Which country is named west b?
Betting against China is always a losing strategy.
Okay CCP bot China is a in a terrible economic situation that doesn’t see any improvement western investors and investment is leaving in droves China is a huge bubble slowly bursting only a full would think China is a positive force
USA says jump, UK says how high master
Hypocrite, tell that to every nation doing business with china, how's Sir Lanka doing?
@@weeguy52 did China influence Sri Lanka’s government, regime change or have a military base situated there?
@Tdzzz450 maybe look into first and YES obviously, but china doesn't need a military base as they know sir lanka will do exactly what they say and even if sir lanka refuses it's not like they can do anything about it and putting a military would easily cause india to take drastic action even know china would like one there
Do you think those 2 other ways you mentioned is the only way to gain power and influence? Why do you think china offers loans at so low interest or terms? Terms other countries wouldn't offer? It's a debt trap duh and is still as effective as a regime change or military base
China can't use force unless it's too much weaker nations like the Philippines etc until america gets their military bases up and running, that is and china knows Western aid is very unlikely to happen for sir lanka
@@weeguy52why don't u ask imf that question ?
@@weeguy52doesn't work . Imf has 50% of sri Lanka debt 😂😂😂
Who the fuck puts their mobile phone on their laptop keyboard?
Someone with a shorter stick up their jacksie
Good
Simply because of US?😂
We haven't "turned enemies", we've had basically a cyber war declared on us.
Because China didn’t make efforts to take care of the UK-China golden era, now both have to take care of this relationship this way. It’s all about karma and butterfly effects.🍿🥤You kept reminding of “golden era, bitter end, national security threat......” Do you want to witness the miracle that UK-China golden era is back?! But COVID is the forever flaw.
Because the UK doesn't make it's foreign policy decisions. Washington does.
LOL BEGGARS CANT BE CHOOSERS
Why Do you need more than 8 minutes to answer the question?
One word: USA
British government doesn't have own foreign policy just like Australia doesn't have either. And Less And Less nations care about what British government says
Especially after they find alternative financial systems that make British banks redundant
Sekruhtree
Sunak and friends outsourcing to India lining their pockets with zero infrastructure just look at the trippled Priced HS2 and slow WiFi
It’s called geopolitics
Penny Mordaunt will fix the relationship when she replaces nowhere man, Ritchie Sunak.
Finally, a different presenter
The Chinese have not forgotten about the opium wars
opium distributors & peddlars were Chinese triads & Qing dynasty officials. it’s all very well documented.
opium distribution was controlled by chinese. similar to fentanyl today, its all chinese.
We haven't forgotten the Korean war, what's your point?
Because like the females they are they love to drag things up from the past and yet forget how Britain helped defeat the Japanese for them and handed over a global trading hub in HK worth 177 bn dollars per year in 1997
How are the Chinese going to explr their role in fentanyl and crystal meth trafficking? If they're so moral
@@justonecornetto80
What was the U.K doing in Korea?
worht it
This comment section is infested with bots
Why i don't comment much anymore. RUclips is horrendous for it.
Yes with CIA bots
See what i mean.
@@manishgrg639 Russian bots actually, like you
@@manishgrg639True. They have recently been caught doing it IN china itself. They used bots on the Chinese internet to spread misinformation and propaganda during the Trump years. They also used bots to try to incite a fake colour revolution in Cuba, but this was met with pro-government counter protests. They aren't very good at their jobs.
You posted so many anti China videos and then ask why. Hilarious😂
Un indien à la tête de l'Angleterre ?
Friends to Foes（×）
Foes to friends to Foes（√）
As long as Ian Duncan Smith lives
UK can never be free
Is this like that time when the UK was so mad for leaking the atom bomb to the Soviets in 1945 that they sold them the most powerful turbojet engines in the world, the Rolls-Royce Nene, to be reverse-engineered in 1946?
How is it like that time?
Rishi is indian what do you expect?
Uk and China were never friends since the First opium war. Why would the west think they were friends….my god😂
1 Hindu & 1 Chinese, where the Urdu Pakistani, wait
As usual, UK acted like sidekick of US… or UK is sidekick of US?
As usual the neurotic Chinese love to criticise but can't take any in return
Similar people and similar culture. Of course we are going to aline with each other for most things
@@dannylive3000no you just puppet
@@user-jc2wc9nu3e 'Consigliere' would be a better description than 'puppet'. It was Britain that pushed for the Libyan intervention and for a harsher response to the Houthi and the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
@dannylive3000 No, UK doesn't have a say in anything. It just obeys whatever US tells them.
Invasion of Iraq on a lie. Spaffing trillions on Afghanistan over 20 years! Stripping out 5G so now it still has terrible coverage even a lot of developing countries are miles ahead.
Xi is pronounced almost exactly like the English word she.
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very sad this is happening...as a citizen of UK and family ties to CN its really sad... this 2 countries that are so far away from another have to be enemies??! ...Why? what do they really are afraid of? something is not right with UK following blindly US.
China has been taking the piss left right and centre, that's why.
It tore up the Sino-UK declaration on Hong Kong and covertly sent its security people here to intimidate British citizens. It's also repeatedly tried to corrupt our elected officials and has stolen technology from British companies.
China is not our friend and nobody in their right mind would want it as one.
I worked in China and saw how hatred of Britain is inculcated in the Chinese people through their education system and the increasingly hysterical nationalism there
China's wolf warrior diplomacy has alienated countless countries and it really is,wearisome how the Chinese blame America for everything when that country basically made the PRC what it is today
If you hack into another country's electoral system, they are not going to like you. Simple as that
Unfortunately, the UK, especially after brexit, has to do whatever Daddy USA tells them to do. The brexit vote was essentially a choice between being an equal partner in Europe, or to be America's little bitch. The public, forgetting that Iraq was a whole thing, chose to be DC's little bitch. Fucking disgrace.
Free Hong Kong
When you look at the economical impact of severing/reducing ties with China, the UK will be WAY more negatively impacted compared to the US and China. I still believe there's ways to work diplomatically with both countries, but I doubt our current leaders have the ability.
I don't like the idea of being a pawn, but we have to accept the fact we're no longer the world-spanning heavyweight we used to be.
Then again, I'm ahave family in China, so I definitely have a bias.
So you'll know how absolute hatred of Britain is inculcated through the education system and the "century of humiliation" neurosis
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp I would say it's more a hatred of Japanese (on account of the atrocities of WWII), and a general distrust of British/Western powers (as you rightly said).
My lived experience is that people will give you a variety of stares in public, but once you initiate a conversation, and say you're from the UK, 99.9% of people will continue to be very friendly.
@@MightiiNinja They've ramped it up in recent years. My university students regularly dragged up the Old Summer Palace and before I left they all had to go to mandatory lectures on "European aggression"
Have you read "The invention of China" by Bill Hayton? He deals with how the narrative of the "century of humiliation" has been continually changed and abused to suit the CPC
My lived experience was that agreements were meaningless and they would mess you around about money and that was why in the end I left
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp It is a shame, the sins of us British are always highlighted the world 'round, yet the sins of others are conveniently forgotten. I've had many interesting debates with my wife about this subject.
Sounds like an interesting read, thanks for the recommendation. It certainly seems like the current and convenient policy.
I'm sorry to hear that. It's hard enough to do good business with your own people, nevermind people from different cultural backgrounds.
@@MightiiNinja Is she Chinese?
Of course this is a relatively new phenomenon - if the British were so terrible why did 56 former colonies voluntarily join the Commonwealth straight after independence? It's just part of the psychological warfare that comes with globalisation and the endless assault on national identity. The neurotic Chinese could never listen to what we have to on a daily basis
Thanks for your kind remarks
Lol china doesn't see the uk as an enemy, their ain't rival is the USA
Why do people on RUclips have HUGE microphones but people on TV don’t? Are they trying to over compensate ???
Size matters
Why?because the uncle Sam said stop. What Cameron thinks is quite irrelevant. It is not like UK has much of the sovereign foreign policies anyway. No point to make it so complicated 🤣🤣🤣. Uncle Sam decides who little John can make friends with 😂😂😂😂
Anything Britain does is to please foreign governments, largely America and Israel. Cutting political ties with China is detrimental for the U.K. as a whole. This decision concerns the dollar and its position in the global financial markets. We know Saddam Hussain was removed from power because he planning to trade his oil for Euros. America’s illegal war in Iraq was disastrous for the U.K. Will our political leaders do what’s best for the people and U.K? I don’t think they will. Britain’s position on the political stage has shrunk and will continue to decline in the coming years. America’s infrastructure is also collapsing and poverty increasing. The only big money being made in America is through wars that boost their war economy.
Because EU has to follow what US tells them to do, simple as...
The UK is not in the EU
Dude brexit was a thing
In NATO.@@ad_astra468
@@ad_astra468 Correct, still in this case both the UK and the rest of EU act in the same way.
America made China what it is today
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It's not necessarily that relevant to the bigger picture, but I do remember media coverage of China being broadly positive in the 2000's until stuff came out about their treatment of the Uyghurs about 2018 or so.
It felt for a while like China's state was lessening its overt authoritarianism and was evolving into a more West-friendly state as time went on, this optimism collapsing when reports of the re-education camps and destruction of mosques started to circulate.
There is nothing with China's treatment of Uighurs😅
It basically started with Xi's second term and consolidation of power. Before Xi there was reason to be optimistic. Now you can write-off China for the rest of his life. Then China has to hope for a new Deng Xiaoping to follow Xi's new Mao and start all over, this time without the industrialization boom. Those prospects are bleak.
Do you know anything about Xinjiang and the Uighurs? There are separatists and terrorists in Xinjiang who don’t want the province to be a part of China. Do you care about the Kurds/Turkey or Palestinians/Israel where 30,000 have been killed in Gaza.
@@Dept246Actually, yes. Everyone knows about Gaza right now and the Kurds have been trying for the whole state thing since the first World War. Also, the Kurds are effectively split between four countries, Turkiye, Syria, Iraq and Iran and they have psuedo-autonomous territories in the middle two.
@@Dept246 Terrorists make up a very small minority of Xinjiang population. Do you really think China would set up "education" camps if 8 million Xinjiangans were terrorists? No, the PLA would have a really hard time dealing with them.
Relying on US makes price go up of everything.
Yes.
We don't care, a great nation is not to be liked, but to be feared and awed. when britain was the empire it used to be, i think no one 'liked' it either.
This is a risky strategy for China.
If successful, this strategy is relatively unstable for power projection compared to developing alliances if your ability to maintain control is disrupted - nations which formerly feared you will simply distrust you and seek to align themselves with your rivals. This happened to the former Warsaw Pact states as the Soviet Union collapsed and they subsequently rushed to join NATO, and this happened to much of Africa as China grew capable of competing with the US and many African nations, distrustful of US neocolonialism, aligned themselves with China.
If not successful, this strategy just makes much of the world see you as a threat and align themselves with your rivals to counter you. This happened to Germany and Japan during the Second World War as an enormous alliance was created to crush them, and this is happening to Russia right now as their invasion of Ukraine severely underperformed and has isolated Russia and driven further NATO expansion.
It’s interesting that you cited Britain, since its empire collapsed once the UK was too indebted from the Second World War to hold its empire together by force.
@@KingCreeper-1026 noted, west is making wars, not china. for the past few decades, you ppl started war all over the planet, yet you are saying we are the problem. only you guys can have security and security concerns? we don't? how dare you! look at the vote in the UN about russian-ukrian war and isreal. who is isolated by the world. or in your eyes the world is just your 'golden on billion' ppl
@@KingCreeper-1026 also if you feel threatened , wonderful. that's how us 3rd world ppl felt in the past 200 years. welcome to the other side of the world, we have been working for it and expecting you
@@andrewcloudy I’m speaking from a pragmatic standpoint that power projection through rule by fear is less stable than power projection through mutually beneficial alliances.
@@KingCreeper-1026 mutual beneficial, that’s interesting,when you guys is having the advantages, everything is open market and free trade, once we gained a bit upper hands, now it’s all national security. It’s not mutual beneficial when you westerners write all the terms. It’s not world order based on rules when you guys r the only one making those rules. That’s hypocrisy at its best
You should make a video about chinese and Russin interference in western european politics.
Like how Boris Johnson is mates with a member Putins inner circles and was known to have gone to his "off the books" parties, an how he put a ex kgb billionaires son(who also gave boris money) in the house of lords.
Nobody cares about Europe politics.
It doesn't matter who leads the western European politics because they all listen to papa daddy usa
why not make a video where USA intervening, overthrowing & undermining other countries?
@jamaljyf they have a agenda
Lets be honest: the only reason anyone would ever be friendly with China is to enable economic growth. Sadly they are hostile to any foreign culture and fundamentally clash with many Western values like freedom of speech, respect of religious choices and Democracy in general. If they had the power to do so they'd be forcibly taking over other countries everywhere and purging many groups they disagree with as they do within their own borders. But as it stands India isn't entirely friendly and has the population size to rival them, Japan and Australia are "nearby" and very much aligned with the West in any conflict. Their only "ally" would be Russia which is a relationship of convenience mostly from anti-US leanings but it's been shown from recent events that Russia's military is far from the force it once was and for conflicts in Asia they would be ineffective due to the drastic lack of infrastructure in Eastern Russia. There's also the issue of a potential revolution if they did use their military because it would take away security assets internally leaving all the very disgruntled young people that have no hope for progress in life to start uprisings.
Haha! this is hilarious. The most Hostile nation on this planet is the USA, with its endless Wars and Death to Profit from. Hopefully one day you can expand your mind rather than being stuck in the Western mindset bubble.
And ironically, even the Russian people don't like them, despite what the government says.
More BS from the uneducated. I suggest you travel and if you have, open your eyes while you're travelling.
a pure load of rubbish and nonsense which I can easily demolish every sentence in a fly ...
ahahahahha kid's knowledge of China .
and...how is the west doing with the Istrael/Palestine? ist that inhumane to let a whole population starve? its the first time in history that is happening and we consider ourself just and moral?...
China: “Who?”
Not even top 10
LOL China's obsessed with Britain. They reserve a special place for is in their "century of humiliation" neurosis for Britain. But curiously forget how we helped defeat the Japanese for them
The one who humiliated you for centuries
@@mycheung6757 cope
Being in denial about being irrelevant is your way to cope😂
Samosa Sunak doesn't represent the U.K., but Endia, his true motherland. That's why he fights fiercely China to please his Sahhib MODI.