Crawler Canyon Presents: Servo Testin' Time, Sincecam 55kg & 50kg LP

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @JamesPrill-hz1oj
    @JamesPrill-hz1oj 7 месяцев назад +4

    Love the fact that you test stuff for us working class customer's, i like cheaper but decent quality items for my low budget builds

  • @billtruett8593
    @billtruett8593 7 месяцев назад +3

    I know it’s not the most popular of videos, but I love all the analytics coming from the tech industry

  • @mattmatt-y9r
    @mattmatt-y9r 7 месяцев назад +2

    Just clicked the link for the LP and it’s $100 now. Crazy!

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад +1

      Well, that's going the wrong direction. Needs to go down about 30 bucks, not up 10. The 6155 was at $58 at time of video, which is fair, but not great.

  • @jaymeparker27
    @jaymeparker27 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great review and test. Sad the specs were off so much from the manufacturers. Seeing gonk on the shelf put a huge smile on my face.

  • @nate4024
    @nate4024 7 месяцев назад +1

    I agree about prices are outta control. It's why I only do 10th scale now 24 scale became too expensive for what you get

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад +1

      When I see CF chassis for SCX24 that cost as much as chassis for SCX10, I'm like... what? Then I think, somewhere out there is a guy with a $400 Ascent 18. It's like bizarro world.

  • @thekracken4572
    @thekracken4572 7 месяцев назад +1

    I just ordered one of 45kg (SC6045MGX) purple ones a week ago! I haven't watched the video yet but I can tell you it's pretty fast and has decent power. Can't wait to see how your testing goes!!

    • @thekracken4572
      @thekracken4572 7 месяцев назад

      I thought it would have been better. It is faster and seems stronger than the Amazon blue pro but I don't know if it's worth the price difference. The return to zero is a lot better. So I don't have to adjust the sub trim as much as the Amazon blues on the trail.

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад +1

      The build quality definitely seems solid-- strong gears and magnetic encoders might make up for the low(ish) torque with silent running and longer service life. I still think they're too expensive, but I kinda think all servos other than Amazon blues are too expensive.

  • @marksaxton4760
    @marksaxton4760 7 месяцев назад +3

    Iam very surprised 😲 U and I tested that same 55kg when I visited your place, mine put out substantially more torque then those did! 🤷‍♂️ Great job anyway it’s to bad a person doesn’t know who to trust. Today I powered up one of my crawlers and the Imod 60kg 12.6 volt started smoking and caught on fire 🔥. Took it apart and the whole circuit board was burnt boy they sure stink 😂Mark S #21/22. 👋🏼

    • @brianmassey7563
      @brianmassey7563 7 месяцев назад

      I had a FlashHobby 60kg do the same thing....smelled horrid. That servo only made it 4-5 packs, while my others are on dozens and still running strong. I did manage to get the Amazon seller to replace it, but it took 3 months :(

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      QC is definitely one of the potential sacrifices we're making for the lower price point. I haven't lost a single Flash Hobby, but I always feel like there's a "yet" lurking behind it.

  • @FaithSaraG
    @FaithSaraG 7 месяцев назад +1

    I recently ordered their 4s direct power servo. Hoping it performs well for me.

  • @Fantaman900
    @Fantaman900 7 месяцев назад +1

    Watching the voltage drop can explain the lower numbers and we are stressing the 1080 max output.
    I put a AGFRC A50BHLW in my yet boat, it's also a 90 euro low profile servo in a set with alu arm and progam usb dongle. I don't need torque to move a nozzle side to side but it's fast and a whole ton better than the plastic geared stock servo ( that got wrecked with a flip beach landing ) and commonly I like the full metal 60-70 euro servo's

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      You would love the A50 even more without the euro pricing-- I have one here still in the package for future drift car use (the programability) and it was $59USD.

    • @Fantaman900
      @Fantaman900 7 месяцев назад

      @@CrawlerCanyon Just the A50 19kg is 69 euro right now on ali official AGFRC store and I always get a bit of discount at checkout. The programmability I wanted to test and have for future use like 360 and winch servos. So instead of massive end point change I changed the max throw angle way down. It only needed like 90 degrees and 270 or 180 is way to much. plus full metal and ip67 it's a baller servo. the full metal JX I bought locally in the past are also way up in price, used be like 60 now more like 70-80 euro for a 35kg. So AGFrc is looking pretty good for future servos that are programable.

  • @opivyx
    @opivyx 7 месяцев назад +1

    I bought one of the YNTRS LP servos that looks identical to these. They list it as a 40kg though. Had high hopes for it as it was silent and fast. Unfortunately one of gears that is pressed onto another stripped out within the first few minutes. Still looking for a decent inexpensive LP that can hit around 500oz

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      You and me both. 35kg, LP, 50 bucks. That's the dream.

  • @marksaxton4760
    @marksaxton4760 7 месяцев назад +3

    45 blue case $39.99 all day long 😊!

  • @fejwe
    @fejwe 7 месяцев назад

    I use the AGFRC 18kg for dig on my Vanquish and love it, it’s very fast but not enough for steering. Great for gearshifts though. Honored to see the Motor City Trail & Crawl sticker on the bench!

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      I have that same servo for steering on Lil' Fella. You're not kidding on the speed. And 18kg is enough for him. Even with SOA.

  • @Bonitacreekrc2
    @Bonitacreekrc2 7 месяцев назад +1

    i was going to use a 1800se

  • @toka100
    @toka100 7 месяцев назад

    Been waiting for you to test some of these. I have the 60kg sincecam servo in my smt-10. Direct power from a 2s and it throws the big j concepts tires and wheels around like it’s touring car tires. I think there is two different classes with their servos. The one I have looks like the LP in your video. Black case and black noodle wires. I only paid $60 for it a year ago.

  • @The_Craw1space
    @The_Craw1space 7 месяцев назад

    It seems like the drop in voltage from the WP1080G2 is the cause of the lower performance... I bet if the voltage was maintained, they would have much higher KG outputs. I also have a WP1080G2 set at 8.4v and on the RC6GSV3 you can set the alarm voltage for the receiver... I have my BEC set at 8.4v and have my alarm set at 7.2v ( just to help me know when im getting close to a stall.) It's actually pretty useful function. But anyway, the point was that i clearly noticed voltage drop along with fading torque and heat buildup. Might be just a little something to keep in mind when doing the tests. I like your servo test videos. Keep 'em comin' on those rainy days every now and then. See ya tomorrow

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад +1

      There's really no excuse for making servos this thirsty, not anymore. Everything is digital, magnetic, brushless, coreless-- the demands should NOT be that high. If an RX-powered servo is consistently pulling more than 5A, they built it wrong. If we need to run an outboard BEC, why not just go direct power? The DS Power DS009 was spiking much higher in draw on the rig, but definitely pulled harder than either of these.

    • @The_Craw1space
      @The_Craw1space 7 месяцев назад

      @@CrawlerCanyon I totally agree with you about their power consumption. I just thought I'd throw out an observation I've made on my rig. P.S.- If you haven't played around with the alarm for the receiver on the RC6GSV3, it's actually a really cool feature i discovered by accident and have been using it ever since to let me know when I'm pressing my servo too hard... Just kind of a neat feature that RadioLink threw in there. Anyway, im watching the crystal pin video right now trying to get caught up. Have a good night and see ya tomorrow

  • @Andy_Yates
    @Andy_Yates 7 месяцев назад

    The low profile AGF servos are all rated in the 20-35kg range for receiver powered in the $100 range. I bet something like an SA33 tests in this 450-500 range, but advertised at a much lower power rating. I have an A62 in a touring car and it does well for that. My race buggy and stadium truck run A81BHP's, and those are awesomely fast receiver powered boys. Looks like Sincecam isn't going to be on the recommend list with AGF and Flash servos

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, they're nicely built (or at least it appears) but far too expensive for what you get. Flash Hobby remains the "middle" option, and I'm not seeing anyone stepping up to directly compete. AGFRC are every bit as nice as the big names, but at like 60% of the cost.
      Based on what you give relative to what you get, the 3235SG Amazon blue case might be the best value servo ever made.

    • @Andy_Yates
      @Andy_Yates 7 месяцев назад

      @@CrawlerCanyon Yeah the venerable blue case is awesome bang for the buck. Low profile servos come at a premium for sure, and like you say about premium things, you have to know it is what you need for your application.

  • @brianmorrison2846
    @brianmorrison2846 7 месяцев назад +2

    Yes

  • @johnbevill128
    @johnbevill128 4 месяца назад

    Is there a place I can download the pdf of all the info from the different servos that have been tested

  • @midnitejmpr9429
    @midnitejmpr9429 7 месяцев назад

    Have you tried those 9imod servos? I always see them when browsing.

  • @scottoblander9419
    @scottoblander9419 7 месяцев назад

    I had a 50kg LP. Returned it because it had a bad potentiometer (i think). It would start oscillating out of the blue. Went to order a replacement and the price had jumped. Went back to a AGFRC.

  • @Team_ReVolt
    @Team_ReVolt 7 месяцев назад

    I think I'll just stick to my 9Imod direct powered servo's. A 70kg costs about 45€. Never broken one up till now.

  • @craigpimlott204
    @craigpimlott204 7 месяцев назад

    I’m still running an Amazon 35 Kg servo after three years of heavy use .in mud. water on most days of the week.and it’s still going ..when I see the price of reefs over here in the Uk the hairs on my neck stand on end …beggar me I’ve bought a car for less and got a years running out of it ..

  • @3dprintingbiker693
    @3dprintingbiker693 7 месяцев назад

    What would you recomend for a capra 4 wheel steer? Was looking at 2 of these 70kg versions for 60 each but now considering differently. Also were you aware the new 1/10 capra 4ws is a esc reciever combo?

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      I always recommend direct-power for 4WS, as that's a lot of draw for any BEC. Flash Hobby have always been good to me, two of my 4WS rigs are running a pair of Flash Hobby 60kg, and they've been great.
      I think everything RTR from (at least) Axial and Element will be coming with the 2A-BS for the near future. They must have gotten a great deal with FlySky.

    • @3dprintingbiker693
      @3dprintingbiker693 7 месяцев назад

      @CrawlerCanyon awsome, thank you for the advice! And surprisingly it's not flysky it's a spectrum 2in1 LOL I almost wish it was flysky. But i can atleast bind it to my dx5 rugged untill I can replace the esc and motor with a fusion se.

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      @@3dprintingbiker693 either FlySky or Dumbo are doing the OE for the Spektrum radios, I'm all but sure.

  • @tonygregg6957
    @tonygregg6957 7 месяцев назад +1

    AGFRC do a 60kg now, I'd be interested to see how that does but the proce is getting up there again. A66FHLW. I think I'd go with the 33kg lp AGFRC over this one.

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад +1

      AGFRC makes some excellent servos (the SA75 is one of my all-time favorites) but the prices are getting insane. 35kg servos for 90 bucks? That's Reefs pricing.

  • @SuperDrake79
    @SuperDrake79 7 месяцев назад

    I’m pretty sure they put the 35kg internals in that 55kg case. 😅

  • @JC-Nor-Cal
    @JC-Nor-Cal 6 месяцев назад

    Can you do something similar in tech detail for lipo batteries

  • @STP_RIDGELINE
    @STP_RIDGELINE 4 месяца назад +1

    What esc is that cause my 1080 only goes up to 7.4?

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  4 месяца назад +1

      1080 G2 has a BEC that goes to 8.4V.

    • @STP_RIDGELINE
      @STP_RIDGELINE 4 месяца назад +1

      @@CrawlerCanyon I dang I didn't know that SWEEEEEEET!
      Thank you 🙏🏻 🤙🏼💯🔥

  • @jason87d43
    @jason87d43 7 месяцев назад +1

    Have you done the blue injora 35kg servo?

    • @AVERAGEJOERC
      @AVERAGEJOERC 7 месяцев назад

      First off im a servo nut!! Im on to yinpin brand servos atm.. injora? Ive never seen one tested but if your talking about the blue brushless 35kg injora servo...i have it in my trx4.. i would like to down it but i cant.. its fast and strong and cheap and i have no reason to use anything else in the 2021 bronco so its staying ...

    • @AVERAGEJOERC
      @AVERAGEJOERC 7 месяцев назад

      45 bucks for the ak70kg from yinpin.. can u please test it??

  • @Bonitacreekrc2
    @Bonitacreekrc2 7 месяцев назад +1

    would a 2low transmission work in the injora chassis that the colonel has in it

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад +1

      I think so? You'll probably have a motor length limit, though. Like up to a 540, but it's become pretty clear to me that that gearbox was designed with a shorty outrunner in mind. Seems happiest with a 3530 or shorter.

  • @AVERAGEJOERC
    @AVERAGEJOERC 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can u test yinpin servos?

    • @lastcreations8845
      @lastcreations8845 7 месяцев назад

      just a touch of research, website is down, BUT also goes by the name GX servo or K-power. Had issues with v1 of their servos, but v2 seems to be an improvement. what attracted you to purchase them over a more widely known and tested servo ?

  • @andy51900
    @andy51900 7 месяцев назад

    Unrelated question.
    I have an 80amp rhino esc that seems to lose most of it's power(forward drive) while steering.
    Power HD 40 kg servo.
    Esc set to 8.4v.
    Anyone experience this?

    • @lastcreations8845
      @lastcreations8845 7 месяцев назад +1

      sounds like you are experiencing a brownout

    • @andy51900
      @andy51900 7 месяцев назад

      @@lastcreations8845 I would agree. Didn't think it would be an issue that esc

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад +1

      The definitely sounds like brownout. Have you done any of the process of elimination? Different servo, different radio, etc?

    • @andy51900
      @andy51900 7 месяцев назад

      @CrawlerCanyon I will swap servos, need to aquire another one. Thanks for the reply.

    • @drowildcat2960
      @drowildcat2960 7 месяцев назад

      Yes BEC will solve your problem sir

  • @brianmorrison2846
    @brianmorrison2846 7 месяцев назад +4

    Don't use the Reefs 800LP cause it's completely silent and beyond strong enough but you have to pay for that. We need more LP servo choices , thanks CC

    • @marksaxton4760
      @marksaxton4760 7 месяцев назад

      Yes 👏 we do!

    • @themountain59
      @themountain59 7 месяцев назад

      There are.(Yantrs,kingmax ,NSDRCetc,)and reefs is a relabeled AGFrc 🙄

  • @HVT03
    @HVT03 7 месяцев назад +1

    Those hit close enough to the Blue Case, for at least 50% more money. They wont be good for someone (like me) that wants a cheap but decent servo, and wont be good neither for a person that wants a powerful servo. Its not enough for the cheap people, nor the expensive crew neither

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      Yep. They fall right in a middle zone that nobody is really looking for.

  • @knappsterk7414
    @knappsterk7414 7 месяцев назад

    Jx 46kg direct power for 50$ I run it in everything what do you'll think about it?

    • @lastcreations8845
      @lastcreations8845 7 месяцев назад

      depending how old, they were very overrated factory numbers, tested elsewhere. like 26-27kg at 12.6v

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, I don't think I've seen a JX servo hit it's number. But then again, I haven't seen a Sincecam hit its numbers either.

    • @knappsterk7414
      @knappsterk7414 7 месяцев назад

      So is it a good or bad servo?

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      @@knappsterk7414 The JX are kinda in the same boat with the 9imod servos, and I guess now Sincecam as well- a little expensive relative to the specs, as pretty much all of the listed numbers are overstated. Flash Hobby is kind of the "standard" for Amazon servos, IMO. No reason to run out and replace the JX 46kg. If they work, they work. I just like to see more spec for less money, and I think everybody does.

  • @scottmichael7178
    @scottmichael7178 2 месяца назад

    these servos are now only $50. I just bought the 58 kg for 47.99. Also have you tested the powerhobby 760mg ? I have 2 and they work fantastic but would like to see true numbers on it

  • @HobbyGrade
    @HobbyGrade 7 месяцев назад

    I was not impressed with my sincecam purchase. I bought the 70kg direct power sincecam to replace my 60kg flash hobby direct power that was in my high trail and stripped a gear... and to be fair the high trail runs a castle system on 4s and is a basher. I only ever ran the flash hobby on 3s even though it is rated higher but after putting in the 70kg sincecam i went straight to 4s on it and it is noticeably slower and less torquey on 4s than the flash hobby was on 3s. It might just be my imagination but i feel i should have just went with another 60kg flash hobby.

  • @lastcreations8845
    @lastcreations8845 7 месяцев назад +1

    ouch. low power wouldn't run them honestly. How about using a simple blue case for a "servo tester checker" see if numbers are close to previous test. enjoy the servo tests alot really.

    • @marksaxton4760
      @marksaxton4760 7 месяцев назад

      8.4volts should be plenty. 😊

    • @lastcreations8845
      @lastcreations8845 7 месяцев назад

      @@marksaxton4760 depends on rig weight i guess, servo on axle and sub 5lbs maybe. But i run into times i need more often on one of mine that is that 4.6lb and 38kg. Numbers are good for high tq servo many yrs ago, just falling short compared to current market, and especially with heavier rigs aka 5lbs plus.

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      Boy is that true-- say 10 years ago, 400oz would have cost $200. These just don't have the power to match the pricetags. The LP servo at 60 bucks would be pretty great, as I don't think a whole lot of people are running LP servos CMS. High-400s SOA is enough for a lot of rigs. 90 is too steep.

    • @lastcreations8845
      @lastcreations8845 7 месяцев назад

      @@CrawlerCanyon yes still run several old Hitec 7950 55 and big body 80 90. I did see flash hobby offering a BLS2950MED a 50kg LP at $76 ? but not sure if 8.4v is going to get there, maybe just need to find more direct power LP servos to hit the numbers more easily.

  • @dennisbeck2521
    @dennisbeck2521 7 месяцев назад

    The BEC voltage sagging to 5.3V....yikes.

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, they're thirsty boys. I'm going to put them into the testing rotation paired to rigs on V80 Rhinos, so we'll see what they do out on the rocks with a 10A BEC pushing them.

  • @theoalbert897
    @theoalbert897 7 месяцев назад

    So just wanna say judging the numbers based off of a servo horn longer than the rated number are tested with kinda defeats the purpose of the test.. ounce/inch, kg/cm and that servo horn is like 3cm long at least

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      The hole used on the servo horn is at 24mm, and torque specs from the mfrs. are listed in oz-in and kg-cm. One inch is 25.4mm, so that's why there are two numbers shown in the summary at the end. The beauty of math is that torque is linear-- so if you take the torque measurement at 24mm and multiply it by 0.925 you get the torque number for 1 inch. Works the other way, too (linear, you know) so if you're running a horn at 16mm, you multiply the number by 1.56 and you now know that as well.
      500oz-in @ 24mm is 462.5oz-in @ 1", and a chonking 780oz-in @ 16mm. The length of the horn is irrelevant. This one is double clamping and virtually impossible to bend. That's important.

  • @Gibsonlife573
    @Gibsonlife573 7 месяцев назад

    Even though I know a lot of the companies get you know their products built overseas I like sporting the smaller companies like you know NSD RC reefs mofo shift rc all these guys is it getting expensive yes very much it is good to have another Choice also

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад

      It's a nice thought, but none of those boutique mfrs. are making servos-- Reefs are almost all relabeled AGRFC servos, with a Reefs markup tacked on top-- for example, the Reefs 99 is an AGFRC A20CLS, and the AGFRC model is $15-20 cheaper. Same for Shift, etc. Much as how maybe 90% of CF bicycle frames come out of a few factories in Taiwan, there's only a handful of OE suppliers of servos. Some companies are having servos built to spec, others are just rebadging and reselling.

  • @themountain59
    @themountain59 7 месяцев назад +1

    35minute to test two disappointing servos? 🙄

    • @CrawlerCanyon
      @CrawlerCanyon  7 месяцев назад +1

      So you knew how they were going to perform in advance? Why didn't you tell all of us?

    • @themountain59
      @themountain59 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@CrawlerCanyon Of course not but that "Test" could have been done easily in 15 minutes 😁Too much white noise lately😏