When I first tried Linux about 11 years ago, the situation was the opposite. My PC with nvidia worked fine, and PC with radeon worked much worse. A lot of people recommended using Nvidia for Linux and said how bad AMD drivers were. "AMD does not offer a good Linux experience," people said.
Yeah, same. I had used ati/amd exclusively on windows, but had to move over to nvidia when I started tinkering with linux. Working perfectly fine for me still on desktop and games, probably because I run xorg on a point release distro (debian stable).
AMD's drivers of that era were notoriously bad even on windows. They did get more attention on windows because of the larger userbase however. Linux driver quality started increasing massively once they open sourced it.
According to NVIDIA web page, the recommended one on Linux is 550. Both 555 and 560 are part of "new feature branches" and they don't warranty reliability, robustness, and performance on those versions.
For myself, I've used 555 and currently I'm using the 560 driver (for over a month now). Both worked great under Wayland on my GTX-1660. With the 560 driver, I'm using the open source modules and nothing has gone awry for me whether it's non-gaming as well as gaming under Wayland. Maybe it's different for more recent GPUs? I do know over a year ago, I had issues where my GPU would thermal throttle and then freeze up completely when gaming. That has gone away since the 555 drivers when I got back to using Linux full-time around April of this year. I would say where nVidia is today is much better than it was over a year ago, or even two years ago. Also, I run CachyOS and I have fiddled with different schedulers but found overall, GPU performance was pretty much the same across all schedulers. The only issue I did run into was some games would have sound stuttering until I switched to the Rusty scheduler. But FPS performance stayed the same, but also, I only have a 60hz monitor, so 60 fps is what I stick with. But again, I'm getting stable frame rates, and I'm not seeing any lag with these drivers.
@@MrAlanCristhian Understood. CachyOS has been testing the drivers, and when they find them pretty stable, they make them part of the upgrade, so that's how I was able to get the 555 and now the 560 drivers for my GPU. Overall, I've been very pleased since the 550 drivers since before that, I couldn't game at all since the 530 drivers as my GPU would freeze up after playing a few minutes. Non-gaming it was fine, but I game as well as work, so I had to stick with Windows at the time. Now, I no longer have Windows on my PC anymore. It's fully Linux now.
From my experience with Linux and nvidia, CachyOS which is based on Arch is the current distro to use, it is the only distro I have tried that does nvidia & wayland properly without needing to install extras or configure anything, the nvidia drivers are automatically installed with the distro, they are installed PROPERLY and fully and are fully configured to work straight out of the box even with wayland!
I was gaming on X11 with GTX 1070 up until last year (2023). It's a surprisingly usable card even today. And with upscaling techniques like FSR it can even live a little bit longer. There were issues with downloading and managing multiple driver versions in Flatpak and updates taking eternities. Nowadays I'm on Wayland with AMD.
I have been using Nvidia since first time started using Linux (Fedora 12, then switched to Ubuntu 10.04) and haven' experienced any bigger issue. Now using Ubuntu 24.04 LTS and Wayland with Nvidia GTX 1650 and 560 driver and everything works flawlessly.
When I first switched to Linux. I must say suspend has been the bane of my existence. Can't exactly not suspend either with the cost of electricity nowadays.
Used Nvidia 1060 on opensuse, arch, fedora, debian, freebsd, etc. all of it in wayland... no issues. I have to say that I just put my pc to sleep or hibernate. I would heck the Nvidia entry on the Archwiki for some setting that may be necessary
I have GTX 1060. I did a distro upgrade from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS to 24.04 LTS. It had the terrible open source drivers installed. Once I installed the proprietary drivers, it was smooth sailing onward. Of course, I still use X11 since Wayland is completely unusable on 24.04 unlike 22.04. Not saying that Wayland for Nvidia was good on 22.04. It was buggy.
Been using NVIDIA on Linux on day one. Over 21 years. Have zero problems and everything work as it should. Of course been using the proprietary drivers for sure.
I switched to Linux full-time once more about two months ago, on a RTX 3060. Tested a bunch of distros with varying degrees of success, X11 usually worked fine and Wayland was usually broken in some way. Ended up on Fedora 40 Workstation/GNOME with the 560 drivers - works like a charm even on Wayland nowadays. Trying to switch to KDE Plasma broke things for me on 3 seperate occasions, so I'm not doing that anymore any time soon. I agree with the sentiment that things are a still a bit wonky and you most likely have to tinker with your setup before you get everything working properly, but once you do the experience is solid and has improved a lot over the years.
Using Pop!_OS with NVIDIA drivers pre-installed has been a pretty good experience overall. I did have an issue after a random update a while ago wherein native games stopped recognizing and using the dGPU and instead defaulted to integrated graphics (ironically, Windows games through Proton still worked fine); switching from hybrid to dedicated graphics mode fixed that, though. That said, we're unfortunately still on GNOME 42.9 with X11 until 24.04 comes out, so I may switch to the alpha of that or just Fedora.
Running Mint here with an RTX 3090, smooth as silk, also all the GPU/CUDA stuff for NN programming like torch and tensorflow runs lightning-fast with essentially two apt installs. Not detected any issue yet...
Currently, have a GTX 1660S on NixOS stable, though I do use the Beta drivers from the unstable branch on the Linux Zen kernel also from the unstable branch. I use Hyprland as my Wayland compositor. I have almost no issue left, whereas a year ago, I had to rely on NVIDIA PRIME, using my integrated AMD iGPU for everything and running only games through my NVIDIA GPU. Now, things are much better, and everything is ran only from my NVIDIA GPU (desktop, by the way). The only thing that still needs some work here is tweaks and bugfixes to explicit sync, and after that, everything should be basically perfect for me. I have a friend with a 1050Ti, and him, on the other hand, does not have the same experience as me, much much worse. It seems that from the RTX 2/3/40x and 1650/60S onwards, with modern drivers in supported environments, the experience is better.
I have been using NVIDIA on Linux Mint for 7 years now with no issues. Currently using a 4060 ti with the 550.107 drivers. My CPU has always been Intel. Linux Mint uses X11 so I am not sure if that has anything to do with it. I hear stories about screen tearing but have never once experienced that myself.
I started using the nobara with Nvidia install this month with a 3080. So far so good. I'm just having a problem streaming to my friends on discord in both Wayland and Xorg. It streams mostly fine, but i get black lines that look almost like screen tearing in the stream output. Does it on vencord to with or without hardware acceleration. Other wise using Nobara has been great so far.
VIDEO REQUESTS PLEASE!!! Installing greetd with a greeter(GTKgreeter or lqreet) and sway has been driving me crazy. I also have a nvidia card. So it seems that it adds another level of pain.
Last week, I installed Fedora 40 with Gnome on my main rig after using Windows since forever. Using Nvidia RTX 2060 Super and the proprietary 560 driver. Everything just works. Only one minor graphical glitch happens when I mouse over things, and a notification pops up with stretched text. I don't have any desire to go back to Windows yet.
I'm using KDE and NVidia on Ubuntu. I have some glitches with Firefox, Google Docs sometimes doesn't work at all and also there's something weird with the Canvas API I believe for example I cannot share images on WhatsApp Web. Maybe this thing with Firefox happen after the computer returns from sleep.
Interestingly I've gone the opposite way - Most of the time for the last 3 years on Nvidia was really good... until they around 545 (and got worse 550) where everything seemed to break constantly with every release and was unstable. Try running something where every couple of minutes it decides that the number of monitors has changed to some number between 1 and 4 (the total number) and reorganises everything. Eventually I got causing me to first go back to X and eventually buy an amd card where i've not had issues.
Been running an RTX 4070Ti with Manjaro, KDE Plasma, and Wayland relatively stable for a while with the exception of certain apps that still depend on X11. However, on my other machine that has an RTX A4000 with Fedora, KDE Plasma, and Wayland, I had weird issues in which after a point release update like from 38 to 39, the GUI would get nuked and would only have access to TTY - I fixed it be rerunning the DKMS build each time. I'm not sure if it was how RPM Fusion packaged it or Nvidia since I never dug deeper to investigate. However, when the proprietary drivers are running, the performance on gaming and ML/AI stuff is superb. Furthermore, Manjaro within the last few months had to roll back to the 550 drivers because of stability issues of 555 and above.
I've been on Manjaro with a gtx960 and then upgrade to RTX3080 since 2018 and I've had no issues. I'm on i3wm. Use the computer for gaming and web browsing. The only issue I've had is coming back from hibernate doesn't work
For the last 12 years my builds and laptops have either been nVidia based, or they just had the onboard graphics. As far as Linux experience, I've tried nVidia on a 2016 laptop I've got with the 950MX chipset, and it wasn't a good experience so I only use the Intel graphics now. I also have a Nitro 5 with the 3050ti, but it's still on Windows so I haven't tried anything there yet. Actually one big reason I haven't converted it to Linux yet is that feeling in the back of my mind that the nVidia issues will be a showstopper. I have been really paying attention though since I read nVidia was moving in a more Linux-y direction, because I do really want to move that laptop (that I only game on) to Linux to help the performance a bit with my Steam games. Just this week I was drawing up a list of build components for an all-AMD desktop for gaming because of the driver scene.
I also changed from amd to nvidia on Opensuse recently. Had similar issues after changing the driver. Did a clean reinstall and all works fine sinve then. They are still in the 550 driver though, as they follow the production branch. So better stay on x11 untill 560 finally lands in the production branche.
I run arch on an asus laptop with nvidia 4070 (laptop) + integrated gpu on x11 and it's been working flawlessly especially with envycontrol to switch between discrete, integrated, and hybrid modes no complaints so far
On normal modern cards NVK works perfectly fine with Wayland (Tho I've seen it not pick up some stuff like new-ish mobile quadro. Also it's not yet fully optimized so only for light gaming and I don't think you can get hw-accelerated video decoding for example.)
Using Fedora with a 4070 and it's mostly a good experience with the 560 driver (I have to note that I'm also using an igpu). Usually it works well but some things like waydroid and gamescope do not work but I can run waydroid off my igpu (among us is not the most intensive android game) and gamescope shouldn't be run on top of another compositor anyway. As for driver issues if you press quit game in unmodded minecraft the pc crashes (yes, that's a thing), vsync has tearing issues on hyprland (not an nvidia issue since on Gnome it works) and the performance are not great with VKD3D (please add native Vulkan support to games, expecially those who already use vulkan for mobile). Also Frame Generation is missing
I use fedora based distros, nobara now bazzite with an rtx 3080. 6.9/6.10 kernel 550/560 divers. wayland since fedora 40 was released. going good but took me a lot of distro hopping to find these 2. also needed to find a distro for gaming that will survive updating every 2 weeks
I'm using an Nividia video card; GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, but with KDE Plasma 5.27.9 on openSUSE Leap 15.5. I have an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU. I haven't had a moments issue on this machine. But I did have the same issue you're having on another test machine that I was trying Ubuntu (I think...it's been a while). But I don't recall it an Nividia card. Not much help
OpenSUSE is behind on Nvidia drivers so I ended up manually installing 555.58 and 560 on my 1050 Ti machine only for the repos to update and roll me back to 550. You definitely want the newer drivers for Wayland since they have explicit sync. I've had good experiences on CachyOS with my 3050 Ti Mobile but I did recently enter the AMD ecosystem with the 7900 GRE on my new build and that's simply more powerful than anything I've had before so of course it runs better anyway.
My GTX 1070 Ti has been great on Pop OS. The only time I had issues with gaming on Heroic(flatpak) was the flatpak driver clog situation in which my install of flatpak bloated with driver versions over time and never removed old versions. When I played a Heroic game that would normally be 165 fps, would consistently run as a slideshow at 10fps. Once I realised the issue, the only clean and failsafe way for me to remove the driver clog was to uninstall all flatpak apps and any leftovers, then reinstall. Once I did that, playing that same game would get me back to 165 fps goodness. So yes, flatpak has its issues and it was NOT obvious what the cause was.
Not having anything to compare to, Nvidia hasn't been too bad since I switched to MX Linux from Windows 10 in January. Since I had to install cuda capability for SVP I added the cuda repository which has made updating nvidia drivers very convenient. I'm still on X11 and screen tearing has been the most annoying thing with the move to linux, so I'm hoping things get better with the move to Wayland in the near future 🤞
I use an RXT 4060 on Fedora Gnome (X11). There are minor problems, but all in all it works very well. I always use the latest Nvidia drivers. For the sleep-issues you have to enable the nvidia-suspend / -hibernate / -resume services if they are not. Suspend works most of the time, but sometimes Linux crashes after resume. But apart from that, I have no crashes at all. Gaming on Steam and Lutris is perfect. No problems there. Wayland works also very well. But i am still on X11 because of Wayland-issues. Blurry apps on HiRes for example.
I run a headless debian server with a 1060 for plex transcoding (old gaming pc) and an OpenSUSE TW desktop with a 3070. Great experience so far, never tried wayland though.
hey Matt, love ur channel - personally I use an Nvidia GTX 1650 on my homebuilt rig (with Fedora server) and my experience has been great - no hiccups (I still use XORG tho 🙂). I use OBS for recording/streaming and Shotcut for editing and everything "just works" with GPU accell. Also Steam gaming is good (considering my card is outdated now). Anyway, good video.
Have been using tumbleweed with nvidia drivers for a month and surprisingly it's give better performance compared to other gaming focused distro in my hybrid gpu laptop
Acceleration NVIDIA seems to like playing with us. Yes, it has impreoved, but some times it brings new problems too It's been stable enough on my system since 550, hat I'm using Wayland without the need to change to X11 for months now. I use Gnome and Hyprland (some times testing COSMIC). On Gnome there is a requirement for XWayland accelerated rendering that is experimental, but still a requirement: enable kms-modifiers using gsettings or dconf on the experimental features. Plasma, unfortunetly I think I'll wait until 6.5 or 7.0. Tested almost every version since 5.25 to 6.1.3 and wasn't working well on my system.
Yeah I agree on the whole NVIDIA drivers problem on Ubuntu, you're better off if you want the latest to add the graphics drivers PPA (ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa). That being said the 535 driver works really well on Debian 12 for me on my GTX1070 but I am on X11 with Cinnamon.
I'm a tumbleweed user. Kde X11 because actually i can't stabilize Wayland launch (but colors are better on Wayland). I'm using a rtx3060 and i've a very good experience since i disabled my amd igpu. The hybrid situation was not fine then i stopped using it (was my graphic tablet port because my gpu didn't have enough hdmi then i bought an adapter).
My secondary system has a 2070 installed on Gentoo. It's not a daily driver, nor I game with it. I'm using the proprietary drivers and it works fine. I'll have to double check if I'm using Wayland or not though.
watching this video on an Arch (btw) + 3080ti. From my experience, If you plan to use Wayland just go with AMD. But on X11 (using dwm as window manager) the card works surprisingly well. However, I dual boot as some of the games I want to play don't run through Proton/Steam. But in the past I've had a good or even better gaming experience on Arch + dwm than Windows 11 for games like Minecraft.
I switched to Linux in early July and I run an rtx 3080. The driver I installed from RPM fusion, that being the 555 driver was pretty nice and worked fantastically. Now once the 560 driver came out for us Fedora users, it broke all games that ran on DXVK, where the app was not being recognized by the GPU. It was that experience alone along with the frustrating process of finding out how to downgrade my driver that made me a little wary about Nvidia Drivers. I have to use Nvidia because the creative software I use have nvidia in mind when designing renderers and such, so I do not intend on switching to AMD, and I also enjoy the technologies nvidia provides like CUDA and DLSS. So I will stick to it but will no longer mindlessly perform a dnf upgrade and update like I thought I could do.
really? As a Fedora user I didn't know that, since for me dxvk works fine (but in one game I had to change the environment variable because it was running off my igpu)
Hmm so newer drivers working better than outdated stuff.. surprising.. 🤔 I use my 4070 to super with the latest drivers and got no issues at all that I can think of except for not being able to turn on frame generation for gaming but I'm hoping that'll get fixed one day. If not there are work around if needed
And here's me with a really old GTX 960 currently on Kubuntu 22.04 having a great experience (no wayland though) on any I tried distro except Fedora. NVIDIA-SMI 535.183.01 Driver Version: 535.183.01 CUDA Version: 12.2
I daily drive Nvidia card(4080 super) on Arch, i get more FPS on Arch vs Windows, been that way since the 560 beta, 555 driver was good but a little less fps then Windows, now i get almost 20-60 more fps in my games, only game i cant run on Linux is League of Legends. Always fun to see these videos, they have no idea what they are talking about.
@@1234enzor part of me wonders if the quality of his card he was using was a good batch or bad batch. My 1070, 1650, and 2060 all work well. But my 5400M is not friends with Linux lol.
1070 ti Fresh debian 12 black screen on login (have to follow their tutorial to install nvidia drivers) Fresh fedora 555 driver and 6.10 kernel. 2 frames per 30 seconds. I like Linux but this is still HUGE problem. Settled on Debian (x11) and now everything is OK, but at this point 95% casual users would go back to Windows
I have an 3000 series card and the situation with overall nvidia drivers was behaving the same way whenever if it is linux or windows. Before my transition to linux, i was playing dying light 2 on windows. Not short after i updated nvidia through geforce experience and it broke the game and made it unlaunchable. I've figured that nvidia has that issue and reverted to previous driver to make it work again. This was not the first time and i wasn't the only one who had issues likes this. Sure linux isn't always better but it's more stable than windows although wayland seems to give me the overall issues in my end. I don't know who mentioned that AMD had the worst drivers stability but i had worse stability on windows.
I used Nvidia since driver 45 on Linux roughly. I personally never had any problems. I have only tried ATI/AMD GPUs 5700xt, 6950xt and the 7900xtx. I still have those three AMD GPUs and use them in various machines. But I have since moved back to Nvidia with the 4080super. I personally say... Use what works for you. AMD works great if all you want is to render the desktop and play some games. But if you want to do to anything else you are using Nvidia because of the features and support in the software.
Currently using Endeavour with a 3070 and my experience has been Pretty good up until installing the 560 dkms drivers which made a 20 year old game go into the 40 fps territory
I have a good experience with Arch/Hyprland and Nvidia, but there a few problems with Wayland stuff, like screen sharing in Discord, but over all its good. I have 3070 TI
Under mint22 I have had zero issues with Nvidia, barr when it comes to KDE. I tried loading KDE onto my pc with mint, when I tried to log in everything was scaled to 300% on boot. I could not switch into KDE because I could not get to the session box as it was blocked by the credentials box which was rendered over top of the session box. I have had the same experience with Nobara40 KDE, as soon as I load ANY form of KDE with my RTX2060ti everything is scaled to 300% upon boot, this is annoying as crap and as such I have had to abandon anything KDE, this is super annoying..
i have no problem with nvidia on eos Wayland gnome, hyprland, no flickring on v 555 now using 560 , no broblem with open dkms drivers too using most of time
i have a 3080 with an intel i7-11700k, i use exclusively with wayland and plasma 6. ive found nobara and bazzite to be the best expeience. ive tried tumbleweed' and it was terrible on my hardware
I started using Linux this year, and so far have only had an Nvidia card (3060) and it's been a pretty seamless experience (on X11, lol) with their proprietary drivers. Granted, an Ubuntu update to their 6.8.0-44 kernel fried my drivers, but it did the same thing with amdgpu/ROCm on my mini PC with an AMD iGPU so I can't say that's Nvidia's fault either.
I use an nvidia gpu (2060) in arch linux and its not causing any issues, using propietry drivers. but i will probably get an amd gpu for my next computer build
I've bought a shiny new RTX 4090 and like weeks after decided to switch from Windows to Linux and felt a bit like an idiot. Luckily it was actually usable if you didn't try to use wayland and don't need DLSS in you games. These days things really improved. Wayland works after some config tweaks and games start to support frame generations as well - though AMDs tech at least. Recently saw a game that actually offered DLSS as well - not sure if Nvidia actually supports it now or if the game just thought it did.
If anyone is curious on what gaming is like on Nvidia GPUs, here's my experience with an RTX 4060. Gaming overall sucks. Most games will run SIGNIFICANTLY slower than windows and use more VRAM. I needed to turn down textures in basically every game. With how slow Nvidia is with driver updates this is really bad. You need to forget about Ray-tracing (RT) if you have less than 10 GB of VRAM at 1080p, 12 GB at 1440p, and 16 GB at 4k. This is also assuming you are not recording with OBS which uses even more VRAM. When I tried RT, even just RT reflections on Ratchet and Clank would fill up the VRAM. DLSS thankfully works but, DLSS frame-gen and Ray-Reconstruction don't. For Frame-gen you need to use FSR 3. If you have a G-Sync or Free-Sync display, make sure the game doesn't fall out of the VRR range. When that happens there is a stutter that feels like a slight pause. Comparing this to an AMD GPU, I didn't need to turn down textures on linux so, I assume the VRAM amount is probably similar. FSR works good enough as along you don't go below balanced for 1440p. Recording works just as well as Nvidia with OBS now that VAAPI has matured greatly. There no VRR bugs to speak of. I know Ray Tracing on Nvidia is better however, RADV has also increased its RT performance greatly. You are welcome to try ubuntu if you want to use AMD's pro driver for even better RT performance but, I would still expect it to worse than windows. Thankfully, AMD is not stingy with VRAM so, finding a cheaper GPU with more VRAM is no issue. Given this, I would recommend people just buy AMD GPUs for now. Hopefully with NVK getting better, in five or so years, we will be able to use Nvidia GPUs just like AMD GPUs.
For me, nvidia has been working really good on Wayland since 555 drivers and seems perfect on the latest 560.35 one. I'm on the proprietary though. Gaming is also great, I played Satisfactory with maxed out settings for 10 hours straight (it's addictive!) and it ran smooth as butter the entire time. I'm so glad nvidia finally sorted out their Linux drivers! There is one minor issue I've run into but not sure it's nvidia specific. If I go afk and my computer sleeps while I have a game running it will run superrr slow when the pc wakes from sleep. Relaunching the game fixes it. On windows 99% of the time it resumes like nothing happened.
I just put a 1660 TI in my Opensuse rig to handle cuda and NVENC and I still kept my AMD gpu in the rig for gaming and surprisingly it works great LOL. AMD is obovivously my main GPU and only GPU I have displays on so all my gaming is great. there has been few games I have had to force to run on the AMD gpu but mostly most games just select the amd gpu to run on. but Davinci resolve is night and day on a NIvidia gpu compared to amd
been using nVidia forever on linux and it's been madness even back in the early 2000s with xorg before even wayland existed, dual monitors problem, display issues, tearing etc... its a hit or miss for me. it really depends, even back then FreeBSD is amazing using nVidia and never had any issues so I used a lot of FreeBSD a lot.... i still use nvidia and much prefer it with windows 11 pro lol, but when using Linux on a pc I make sure its AMD, when you go AMD for linux its just so much better, for me if i need to use a pc with nvidia its going to be with windows... look you need just use the right hardware for the right system, and if linux doesnt want to work well with nvidia gpu oh welll dont use linux... anyhow even linux doesnt detect my ugreen 5.4 bluetooth usb adapater which reallly pisses me off, so i use windows on that box cause it just works and I need bluetooth, im tired of linux in last 25 years using it.... im at the point i want to just ditch it, but yet I still use it ..... and still care for and still have hope for it, but man it sure pisses me off lol.
In a ideal world, Nvidia should give the source code as AMD did. I don't know about serious problems with Nvidia drivers except the lack of control from Linux Foundation over the Nvidia drivers. We don't know about the security problems and it's not possible for Linux devs evaluates possible bugs or perform optimizations and quality improvement since the source code are not available. But, for now is good enough including to perform AI work using Nvidia on Linux.
They are in the same place ATI was back when I started using Linux. They did release a bunch of code a few years back, but not much has been made of it IMO. I know nothing about coding, so I could be wrong.
Davin I Résolve users are tearing their hair out, trying to run their AMD GPS on ANY Linux distro. Is there anyway that you could show us a step-by-step method to properly install our AMD GPUs… On ANY distro?? That would make a great video.-
I am going to be honest, I have nvidia RTX 3060 mobile in my laptop, it's a hit and miss, it works but not the correct way your like, It can works but you need to change, which is very rough.
honesty before I was using arch and I would say no nvidia sucks. since 6 months I found the rescue of nixos. now I would say yes but important you use nixos if you have nvidia
I'm using Debian 12 Gnome X11 and don't have any issues with my GeForce GTX 1070 running nvidia proprietary drivers. Games run about as good on Steam as they do on Windows. RUclips plays fine at 4K. OBS Studio does fine recording the desktop and did ok with a Facebook Live Stream, although I did get some glitchyness when trying to livestream Skyrim SE, although that was probably due to the hardware not being powerful enough to encode the stream fast enough.
You should really more try Radeon I am debating on moving on from NVIDIA to Ryzen + Radeon combination gaming Radeon is more open source NVIDIA easily deprecates their older hardware what you need dude is more open source hardware that will last a lifetime.
The experience with both is good it just seriously depends on your needs. Are your needs solely focused on gaming and desktop experience? then AMD is a very good experience, works better with wayland etc. If for some reason you need 3d rendering (HIP on AMD, or rocm) you're in for a world of unneeded pain because AMD proprietary drivers (rocm) are worse than Nvidia Cuda by a mile, support is worse and less and far between software, they're a pain to install in alot of distros. They're not even supported in some software (davinci), broken in some others (substance painter) and on some they have half the features that Nvidia supports. Even regarding the installation process, Nvidia drivers compared to rocm is just 1 click install most of the time and be done with it and all the 3d software recognizes cuda...AMD, not really
wayland is still WIP, chrome for example still have issues with wayland. I think most people won't tolerate using firefox instead of chrome. Call me blind, but for the life of me, I can't see how x11 is bad? It's still far better experience overall than wayland. Sure, wayland have fluid animations or whatever, but it still lacks many features, and software support even today. I'm still using x11 even with amd, it's husslefree. If you want to use nvidia, it works super great on x11. People want nvidia to support latest wayland features, but the thing is, wayland itself is not mature yet, and I think nvidia knows this, that's why they just can't commit to support it fully while it's still half-baked.
People leave Windows because it's proprietary nature force decisions onto users, People want to use proprietary hardware on Linux and get mad because proprietary drivers suck. There is a reason Linus flipped off Nvida even 10 years ago. Do you think the open source developers don't have Nvida cards that they want to work on Linux? I will never recommend Nvida to anyone unless they can articulate why they need the CUDA cores.
WAYLAND IS NOT READY.........I have several PC's with nvidia cards running Linux Mint Cinnamon with proprietary drivers. They are all working FLAWLESSLY even with multiple monitors that have different refresh rates. LM22 has support until 2029 so everyone chill out and use Xorg until then if you need to........ALSO 14 years ago GNOPE and KDE decided to RUIN their DE's when they thought the desktop was dying and we all needed a tablet interface. If these are working for you great but KDE is a buggy damned mess every time I try it, and Gnope is just awful since v3. Cinnamon, XFCE, heck even LXQT or LXDE are usually better choices because they have not thrown the baby out with the bathwater.
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I think it's time for us to resurrect the Steam Machine with using Linux.
When I first tried Linux about 11 years ago, the situation was the opposite. My PC with nvidia worked fine, and PC with radeon worked much worse. A lot of people recommended using Nvidia for Linux and said how bad AMD drivers were. "AMD does not offer a good Linux experience," people said.
I had the same experience. Nowadays, because I use Laptops more, I use Intel GPU.
Yeah, same. I had used ati/amd exclusively on windows, but had to move over to nvidia when I started tinkering with linux.
Working perfectly fine for me still on desktop and games, probably because I run xorg on a point release distro (debian stable).
AMD's drivers of that era were notoriously bad even on windows. They did get more attention on windows because of the larger userbase however. Linux driver quality started increasing massively once they open sourced it.
That's why l like the Driver Manager on Mint, it just takes care of the whole thing.
Whatever is the recommended one, i use.
According to NVIDIA web page, the recommended one on Linux is 550. Both 555 and 560 are part of "new feature branches" and they don't warranty reliability, robustness, and performance on those versions.
Yup, stable branch (previously 535, now 550) been working fine on all my machines.
For myself, I've used 555 and currently I'm using the 560 driver (for over a month now). Both worked great under Wayland on my GTX-1660. With the 560 driver, I'm using the open source modules and nothing has gone awry for me whether it's non-gaming as well as gaming under Wayland. Maybe it's different for more recent GPUs? I do know over a year ago, I had issues where my GPU would thermal throttle and then freeze up completely when gaming. That has gone away since the 555 drivers when I got back to using Linux full-time around April of this year. I would say where nVidia is today is much better than it was over a year ago, or even two years ago.
Also, I run CachyOS and I have fiddled with different schedulers but found overall, GPU performance was pretty much the same across all schedulers. The only issue I did run into was some games would have sound stuttering until I switched to the Rusty scheduler. But FPS performance stayed the same, but also, I only have a 60hz monitor, so 60 fps is what I stick with. But again, I'm getting stable frame rates, and I'm not seeing any lag with these drivers.
@@iBolski The point is that with those versions some could have a good experience, some not.
@@MrAlanCristhian Understood. CachyOS has been testing the drivers, and when they find them pretty stable, they make them part of the upgrade, so that's how I was able to get the 555 and now the 560 drivers for my GPU. Overall, I've been very pleased since the 550 drivers since before that, I couldn't game at all since the 530 drivers as my GPU would freeze up after playing a few minutes. Non-gaming it was fine, but I game as well as work, so I had to stick with Windows at the time. Now, I no longer have Windows on my PC anymore. It's fully Linux now.
only shame the 550 lacks explicit sync, so wayland is out of the question till the next production version comes out
From my experience with Linux and nvidia, CachyOS which is based on Arch is the current distro to use, it is the only distro I have tried that does nvidia & wayland properly without needing to install extras or configure anything, the nvidia drivers are automatically installed with the distro, they are installed PROPERLY and fully and are fully configured to work straight out of the box even with wayland!
Cachy is pretty fast too!
@@dia6olo64 thank god hah.. im .. wanting to buy a laptop with nvdia 😅
Watching on KDE Neon/X11 with GTX 1070. So far, no problems. I game on it too using Lutris.
I was gaming on X11 with GTX 1070 up until last year (2023). It's a surprisingly usable card even today. And with upscaling techniques like FSR it can even live a little bit longer. There were issues with downloading and managing multiple driver versions in Flatpak and updates taking eternities.
Nowadays I'm on Wayland with AMD.
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I have been using Nvidia since first time started using Linux (Fedora 12, then switched to Ubuntu 10.04) and haven' experienced any bigger issue. Now using Ubuntu 24.04 LTS and Wayland with Nvidia GTX 1650 and 560 driver and everything works flawlessly.
When I first switched to Linux. I must say suspend has been the bane of my existence.
Can't exactly not suspend either with the cost of electricity nowadays.
Im running a 7900TXT+7800X3D on my Arch build, runs flawlessly, fast, responsive system, i almost bought a 4080 but that Linux issue stopped me.
I am using Arch btw
@@Priimerra shush
Used Nvidia 1060 on opensuse, arch, fedora, debian, freebsd, etc. all of it in wayland... no issues. I have to say that I just put my pc to sleep or hibernate. I would heck the Nvidia entry on the Archwiki for some setting that may be necessary
I have GTX 1060. I did a distro upgrade from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS to 24.04 LTS. It had the terrible open source drivers installed. Once I installed the proprietary drivers, it was smooth sailing onward. Of course, I still use X11 since Wayland is completely unusable on 24.04 unlike 22.04. Not saying that Wayland for Nvidia was good on 22.04. It was buggy.
Totally usable. GPU was upgraded to the RTX 3060 yesterday, and not so much as a hiccup from Mint.
Been using NVIDIA on Linux on day one. Over 21 years. Have zero problems and everything work as it should. Of course been using the proprietary drivers for sure.
I switched to Linux full-time once more about two months ago, on a RTX 3060. Tested a bunch of distros with varying degrees of success, X11 usually worked fine and Wayland was usually broken in some way. Ended up on Fedora 40 Workstation/GNOME with the 560 drivers - works like a charm even on Wayland nowadays. Trying to switch to KDE Plasma broke things for me on 3 seperate occasions, so I'm not doing that anymore any time soon. I agree with the sentiment that things are a still a bit wonky and you most likely have to tinker with your setup before you get everything working properly, but once you do the experience is solid and has improved a lot over the years.
Using Pop!_OS with NVIDIA drivers pre-installed has been a pretty good experience overall. I did have an issue after a random update a while ago wherein native games stopped recognizing and using the dGPU and instead defaulted to integrated graphics (ironically, Windows games through Proton still worked fine); switching from hybrid to dedicated graphics mode fixed that, though. That said, we're unfortunately still on GNOME 42.9 with X11 until 24.04 comes out, so I may switch to the alpha of that or just Fedora.
Running Mint here with an RTX 3090, smooth as silk, also all the GPU/CUDA stuff for NN programming like torch and tensorflow runs lightning-fast with essentially two apt installs. Not detected any issue yet...
Currently, have a GTX 1660S on NixOS stable, though I do use the Beta drivers from the unstable branch on the Linux Zen kernel also from the unstable branch. I use Hyprland as my Wayland compositor. I have almost no issue left, whereas a year ago, I had to rely on NVIDIA PRIME, using my integrated AMD iGPU for everything and running only games through my NVIDIA GPU. Now, things are much better, and everything is ran only from my NVIDIA GPU (desktop, by the way). The only thing that still needs some work here is tweaks and bugfixes to explicit sync, and after that, everything should be basically perfect for me.
I have a friend with a 1050Ti, and him, on the other hand, does not have the same experience as me, much much worse. It seems that from the RTX 2/3/40x and 1650/60S onwards, with modern drivers in supported environments, the experience is better.
I have been using NVIDIA on Linux Mint for 7 years now with no issues. Currently using a 4060 ti with the 550.107 drivers. My CPU has always been Intel. Linux Mint uses X11 so I am not sure if that has anything to do with it. I hear stories about screen tearing but have never once experienced that myself.
I started using the nobara with Nvidia install this month with a 3080. So far so good. I'm just having a problem streaming to my friends on discord in both Wayland and Xorg. It streams mostly fine, but i get black lines that look almost like screen tearing in the stream output. Does it on vencord to with or without hardware acceleration. Other wise using Nobara has been great so far.
VIDEO REQUESTS PLEASE!!! Installing greetd with a greeter(GTKgreeter or lqreet) and sway has been driving me crazy. I also have a nvidia card. So it seems that it adds another level of pain.
Last week, I installed Fedora 40 with Gnome on my main rig after using Windows since forever. Using Nvidia RTX 2060 Super and the proprietary 560 driver. Everything just works. Only one minor graphical glitch happens when I mouse over things, and a notification pops up with stretched text. I don't have any desire to go back to Windows yet.
I'm using KDE and NVidia on Ubuntu. I have some glitches with Firefox, Google Docs sometimes doesn't work at all and also there's something weird with the Canvas API I believe for example I cannot share images on WhatsApp Web. Maybe this thing with Firefox happen after the computer returns from sleep.
So Linux is a very polished experience that lets you use your hardware. Great. Its only 2024.
Interestingly I've gone the opposite way - Most of the time for the last 3 years on Nvidia was really good... until they around 545 (and got worse 550) where everything seemed to break constantly with every release and was unstable. Try running something where every couple of minutes it decides that the number of monitors has changed to some number between 1 and 4 (the total number) and reorganises everything. Eventually I got causing me to first go back to X and eventually buy an amd card where i've not had issues.
Been running an RTX 4070Ti with Manjaro, KDE Plasma, and Wayland relatively stable for a while with the exception of certain apps that still depend on X11. However, on my other machine that has an RTX A4000 with Fedora, KDE Plasma, and Wayland, I had weird issues in which after a point release update like from 38 to 39, the GUI would get nuked and would only have access to TTY - I fixed it be rerunning the DKMS build each time. I'm not sure if it was how RPM Fusion packaged it or Nvidia since I never dug deeper to investigate.
However, when the proprietary drivers are running, the performance on gaming and ML/AI stuff is superb. Furthermore, Manjaro within the last few months had to roll back to the 550 drivers because of stability issues of 555 and above.
I've been on Manjaro with a gtx960 and then upgrade to RTX3080 since 2018 and I've had no issues. I'm on i3wm. Use the computer for gaming and web browsing. The only issue I've had is coming back from hibernate doesn't work
For the last 12 years my builds and laptops have either been nVidia based, or they just had the onboard graphics. As far as Linux experience, I've tried nVidia on a 2016 laptop I've got with the 950MX chipset, and it wasn't a good experience so I only use the Intel graphics now. I also have a Nitro 5 with the 3050ti, but it's still on Windows so I haven't tried anything there yet. Actually one big reason I haven't converted it to Linux yet is that feeling in the back of my mind that the nVidia issues will be a showstopper. I have been really paying attention though since I read nVidia was moving in a more Linux-y direction, because I do really want to move that laptop (that I only game on) to Linux to help the performance a bit with my Steam games.
Just this week I was drawing up a list of build components for an all-AMD desktop for gaming because of the driver scene.
I also changed from amd to nvidia on Opensuse recently. Had similar issues after changing the driver. Did a clean reinstall and all works fine sinve then. They are still in the 550 driver though, as they follow the production branch. So better stay on x11 untill 560 finally lands in the production branche.
i've been using a 4090 for over a year and haven't had any issues with it so far.
I run arch on an asus laptop with nvidia 4070 (laptop) + integrated gpu on x11 and it's been working flawlessly especially with envycontrol to switch between discrete, integrated, and hybrid modes no complaints so far
On normal modern cards NVK works perfectly fine with Wayland
(Tho I've seen it not pick up some stuff like new-ish mobile quadro. Also it's not yet fully optimized so only for light gaming and I don't think you can get hw-accelerated video decoding for example.)
Using Fedora with a 4070 and it's mostly a good experience with the 560 driver (I have to note that I'm also using an igpu). Usually it works well but some things like waydroid and gamescope do not work but I can run waydroid off my igpu (among us is not the most intensive android game) and gamescope shouldn't be run on top of another compositor anyway. As for driver issues if you press quit game in unmodded minecraft the pc crashes (yes, that's a thing), vsync has tearing issues on hyprland (not an nvidia issue since on Gnome it works) and the performance are not great with VKD3D (please add native Vulkan support to games, expecially those who already use vulkan for mobile). Also Frame Generation is missing
I use fedora based distros, nobara now bazzite with an rtx 3080. 6.9/6.10 kernel 550/560 divers. wayland since fedora 40 was released. going good but took me a lot of distro hopping to find these 2. also needed to find a distro for gaming that will survive updating every 2 weeks
I'm using an Nividia video card; GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, but with KDE Plasma 5.27.9 on openSUSE Leap 15.5. I have an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU. I haven't had a moments issue on this machine. But I did have the same issue you're having on another test machine that I was trying Ubuntu (I think...it's been a while). But I don't recall it an Nividia card. Not much help
OpenSUSE is behind on Nvidia drivers so I ended up manually installing 555.58 and 560 on my 1050 Ti machine only for the repos to update and roll me back to 550. You definitely want the newer drivers for Wayland since they have explicit sync. I've had good experiences on CachyOS with my 3050 Ti Mobile but I did recently enter the AMD ecosystem with the 7900 GRE on my new build and that's simply more powerful than anything I've had before so of course it runs better anyway.
My GTX 1070 Ti has been great on Pop OS. The only time I had issues with gaming on Heroic(flatpak) was the flatpak driver clog situation in which my install of flatpak bloated with driver versions over time and never removed old versions. When I played a Heroic game that would normally be 165 fps, would consistently run as a slideshow at 10fps. Once I realised the issue, the only clean and failsafe way for me to remove the driver clog was to uninstall all flatpak apps and any leftovers, then reinstall. Once I did that, playing that same game would get me back to 165 fps goodness. So yes, flatpak has its issues and it was NOT obvious what the cause was.
Not having anything to compare to, Nvidia hasn't been too bad since I switched to MX Linux from Windows 10 in January. Since I had to install cuda capability for SVP I added the cuda repository which has made updating nvidia drivers very convenient.
I'm still on X11 and screen tearing has been the most annoying thing with the move to linux, so I'm hoping things get better with the move to Wayland in the near future 🤞
I use a 4080 and Nobara Linux and have no issues at all...I used the specific nvidia install and it has been smooth
I use an RXT 4060 on Fedora Gnome (X11). There are minor problems, but all in all it works very well. I always use the latest Nvidia drivers. For the sleep-issues you have to enable the nvidia-suspend / -hibernate / -resume services if they are not. Suspend works most of the time, but sometimes Linux crashes after resume. But apart from that, I have no crashes at all.
Gaming on Steam and Lutris is perfect. No problems there.
Wayland works also very well. But i am still on X11 because of Wayland-issues. Blurry apps on HiRes for example.
I run a headless debian server with a 1060 for plex transcoding (old gaming pc) and an OpenSUSE TW desktop with a 3070. Great experience so far, never tried wayland though.
hey Matt, love ur channel - personally I use an Nvidia GTX 1650 on my homebuilt rig (with Fedora server) and my experience has been great - no hiccups (I still use XORG tho 🙂). I use OBS for recording/streaming and Shotcut for editing and everything "just works" with GPU accell. Also Steam gaming is good (considering my card is outdated now). Anyway, good video.
Part of me has to ask why is there such a huge push for Wayland? Xorg still works great.
Have been using tumbleweed with nvidia drivers for a month and surprisingly it's give better performance compared to other gaming focused distro in my hybrid gpu laptop
Looking forward to the 560 version, I see some contributions made by negativo17 to the OpenSUSE nvidia repo on github
Acceleration NVIDIA seems to like playing with us. Yes, it has impreoved, but some times it brings new problems too It's been stable enough on my system since 550, hat I'm using Wayland without the need to change to X11 for months now. I use Gnome and Hyprland (some times testing COSMIC). On Gnome there is a requirement for XWayland accelerated rendering that is experimental, but still a requirement: enable kms-modifiers using gsettings or dconf on the experimental features. Plasma, unfortunetly I think I'll wait until 6.5 or 7.0. Tested almost every version since 5.25 to 6.1.3 and wasn't working well on my system.
Yeah I agree on the whole NVIDIA drivers problem on Ubuntu, you're better off if you want the latest to add the graphics drivers PPA (ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa). That being said the 535 driver works really well on Debian 12 for me on my GTX1070 but I am on X11 with Cinnamon.
I'm a tumbleweed user. Kde X11 because actually i can't stabilize Wayland launch (but colors are better on Wayland). I'm using a rtx3060 and i've a very good experience since i disabled my amd igpu. The hybrid situation was not fine then i stopped using it (was my graphic tablet port because my gpu didn't have enough hdmi then i bought an adapter).
My secondary system has a 2070 installed on Gentoo. It's not a daily driver, nor I game with it. I'm using the proprietary drivers and it works fine. I'll have to double check if I'm using Wayland or not though.
watching this video on an Arch (btw) + 3080ti. From my experience, If you plan to use Wayland just go with AMD. But on X11 (using dwm as window manager) the card works surprisingly well. However, I dual boot as some of the games I want to play don't run through Proton/Steam. But in the past I've had a good or even better gaming experience on Arch + dwm than Windows 11 for games like Minecraft.
I switched to Linux in early July and I run an rtx 3080. The driver I installed from RPM fusion, that being the 555 driver was pretty nice and worked fantastically. Now once the 560 driver came out for us Fedora users, it broke all games that ran on DXVK, where the app was not being recognized by the GPU. It was that experience alone along with the frustrating process of finding out how to downgrade my driver that made me a little wary about Nvidia Drivers. I have to use Nvidia because the creative software I use have nvidia in mind when designing renderers and such, so I do not intend on switching to AMD, and I also enjoy the technologies nvidia provides like CUDA and DLSS. So I will stick to it but will no longer mindlessly perform a dnf upgrade and update like I thought I could do.
really? As a Fedora user I didn't know that, since for me dxvk works fine (but in one game I had to change the environment variable because it was running off my igpu)
@@Kamion008 it works now! I have no idea what happened but after a clean install I was able to install the driver and it works perfectly now.
I'm not using a RTX nor latest generation card. However, my 1070 card has worked just fine with the linux drivers in the AUR.
Hmm so newer drivers working better than outdated stuff.. surprising.. 🤔 I use my 4070 to super with the latest drivers and got no issues at all that I can think of except for not being able to turn on frame generation for gaming but I'm hoping that'll get fixed one day. If not there are work around if needed
And here's me with a really old GTX 960 currently on Kubuntu 22.04 having a great experience (no wayland though) on any I tried distro except Fedora. NVIDIA-SMI 535.183.01 Driver Version: 535.183.01 CUDA Version: 12.2
I'm trying the slowroll branch during these days. It's okay but can't tell about Nvidia 'cause I got a great Intel ARC that works just great ;)
I daily drive Nvidia card(4080 super) on Arch, i get more FPS on Arch vs Windows, been that way since the 560 beta, 555 driver was good but a little less fps then Windows, now i get almost 20-60 more fps in my games, only game i cant run on Linux is League of Legends.
Always fun to see these videos, they have no idea what they are talking about.
@@1234enzor part of me wonders if the quality of his card he was using was a good batch or bad batch. My 1070, 1650, and 2060 all work well. But my 5400M is not friends with Linux lol.
1070 ti
Fresh debian 12 black screen on login (have to follow their tutorial to install nvidia drivers)
Fresh fedora 555 driver and 6.10 kernel. 2 frames per 30 seconds.
I like Linux but this is still HUGE problem.
Settled on Debian (x11) and now everything is OK, but at this point 95% casual users would go back to Windows
My experience is alright tho. 1650 on opensuse, sometimes switching to x11 but most of the time just works. Waiting for driver updates
Maybe some apps lags often but I guess its fault of my really poor ram&hdd
I have an 3000 series card and the situation with overall nvidia drivers was behaving the same way whenever if it is linux or windows.
Before my transition to linux, i was playing dying light 2 on windows. Not short after i updated nvidia through geforce experience and it broke the game and made it unlaunchable. I've figured that nvidia has that issue and reverted to previous driver to make it work again. This was not the first time and i wasn't the only one who had issues likes this. Sure linux isn't always better but it's more stable than windows although wayland seems to give me the overall issues in my end.
I don't know who mentioned that AMD had the worst drivers stability but i had worse stability on windows.
I used Nvidia since driver 45 on Linux roughly.
I personally never had any problems.
I have only tried ATI/AMD GPUs 5700xt, 6950xt and the 7900xtx.
I still have those three AMD GPUs and use them in various machines.
But I have since moved back to Nvidia with the 4080super.
I personally say... Use what works for you. AMD works great if all you want is to render the desktop and play some games. But if you want to do to anything else you are using Nvidia because of the features and support in the software.
Currently using Endeavour with a 3070 and my experience has been Pretty good up until installing the 560 dkms drivers which made a 20 year old game go into the 40 fps territory
I have a good experience with Arch/Hyprland and Nvidia, but there a few problems with Wayland stuff, like screen sharing in Discord, but over all its good. I have 3070 TI
Under mint22 I have had zero issues with Nvidia, barr when it comes to KDE. I tried loading KDE onto my pc with mint, when I tried to log in everything was scaled to 300% on boot. I could not switch into KDE because I could not get to the session box as it was blocked by the credentials box which was rendered over top of the session box. I have had the same experience with Nobara40 KDE, as soon as I load ANY form of KDE with my RTX2060ti everything is scaled to 300% upon boot, this is annoying as crap and as such I have had to abandon anything KDE, this is super annoying..
my 720p display has a default of 200% scale in KDE, with intel, amd and nvidia LOL. I don't know what they're smoking
i have no problem with nvidia on eos Wayland gnome, hyprland, no flickring on v 555 now using 560 , no broblem with open dkms drivers too using most of time
I'm using an RTX 4090 with CachyOS with nvidia-open 560.35.03 driver on Hyprland (Wayland). I've been very happy for 32 days.
i have a 3080 with an intel i7-11700k, i use exclusively with wayland and plasma 6. ive found nobara and bazzite to be the best expeience. ive tried tumbleweed' and it was terrible on my hardware
I started using Linux this year, and so far have only had an Nvidia card (3060) and it's been a pretty seamless experience (on X11, lol) with their proprietary drivers. Granted, an Ubuntu update to their 6.8.0-44 kernel fried my drivers, but it did the same thing with amdgpu/ROCm on my mini PC with an AMD iGPU so I can't say that's Nvidia's fault either.
I use an nvidia gpu (2060) in arch linux and its not causing any issues, using propietry drivers. but i will probably get an amd gpu for my next computer build
well theres minor issue like with suspend acting erratic but im not sure if its my gpu
yeah i have nobara that holds your had on this and it just works on wayland on KDE easy also never had a bad experiences on my 4070 ti
NixOS unstable/plasma/nvidia rtx3060/driver 560beta/wayland/Davinci resolve Studio perfect
You got it all: NixOS is always fresh install by nature :)
I've bought a shiny new RTX 4090 and like weeks after decided to switch from Windows to Linux and felt a bit like an idiot.
Luckily it was actually usable if you didn't try to use wayland and don't need DLSS in you games.
These days things really improved. Wayland works after some config tweaks and games start to support frame generations as well - though AMDs tech at least. Recently saw a game that actually offered DLSS as well - not sure if Nvidia actually supports it now or if the game just thought it did.
Thankfully have Nvidia, as I use their CUDA SDK`s and various Nvidia compilers. Running fine on ubuntu based Mint.
If anyone is curious on what gaming is like on Nvidia GPUs, here's my experience with an RTX 4060.
Gaming overall sucks. Most games will run SIGNIFICANTLY slower than windows and use more VRAM. I needed to turn down textures in basically every game. With how slow Nvidia is with driver updates this is really bad. You need to forget about Ray-tracing (RT) if you have less than 10 GB of VRAM at 1080p, 12 GB at 1440p, and 16 GB at 4k. This is also assuming you are not recording with OBS which uses even more VRAM. When I tried RT, even just RT reflections on Ratchet and Clank would fill up the VRAM. DLSS thankfully works but, DLSS frame-gen and Ray-Reconstruction don't. For Frame-gen you need to use FSR 3. If you have a G-Sync or Free-Sync display, make sure the game doesn't fall out of the VRR range. When that happens there is a stutter that feels like a slight pause.
Comparing this to an AMD GPU, I didn't need to turn down textures on linux so, I assume the VRAM amount is probably similar. FSR works good enough as along you don't go below balanced for 1440p. Recording works just as well as Nvidia with OBS now that VAAPI has matured greatly. There no VRR bugs to speak of. I know Ray Tracing on Nvidia is better however, RADV has also increased its RT performance greatly. You are welcome to try ubuntu if you want to use AMD's pro driver for even better RT performance but, I would still expect it to worse than windows. Thankfully, AMD is not stingy with VRAM so, finding a cheaper GPU with more VRAM is no issue.
Given this, I would recommend people just buy AMD GPUs for now. Hopefully with NVK getting better, in five or so years, we will be able to use Nvidia GPUs just like AMD GPUs.
Ray-Reconstruction works on linux
For me, nvidia has been working really good on Wayland since 555 drivers and seems perfect on the latest 560.35 one. I'm on the proprietary though.
Gaming is also great, I played Satisfactory with maxed out settings for 10 hours straight (it's addictive!) and it ran smooth as butter the entire time.
I'm so glad nvidia finally sorted out their Linux drivers!
There is one minor issue I've run into but not sure it's nvidia specific. If I go afk and my computer sleeps while I have a game running it will run superrr slow when the pc wakes from sleep. Relaunching the game fixes it. On windows 99% of the time it resumes like nothing happened.
What distro and de?
I just put a 1660 TI in my Opensuse rig to handle cuda and NVENC and I still kept my AMD gpu in the rig for gaming and surprisingly it works great LOL. AMD is obovivously my main GPU and only GPU I have displays on so all my gaming is great. there has been few games I have had to force to run on the AMD gpu but mostly most games just select the amd gpu to run on. but Davinci resolve is night and day on a NIvidia gpu compared to amd
hyprland is kinda rough, and runelite has a bug
been using nVidia forever on linux and it's been madness even back in the early 2000s with xorg before even wayland existed, dual monitors problem, display issues, tearing etc... its a hit or miss for me. it really depends, even back then FreeBSD is amazing using nVidia and never had any issues so I used a lot of FreeBSD a lot.... i still use nvidia and much prefer it with windows 11 pro lol, but when using Linux on a pc I make sure its AMD, when you go AMD for linux its just so much better, for me if i need to use a pc with nvidia its going to be with windows... look you need just use the right hardware for the right system, and if linux doesnt want to work well with nvidia gpu oh welll dont use linux... anyhow even linux doesnt detect my ugreen 5.4 bluetooth usb adapater which reallly pisses me off, so i use windows on that box cause it just works and I need bluetooth, im tired of linux in last 25 years using it.... im at the point i want to just ditch it, but yet I still use it ..... and still care for and still have hope for it, but man it sure pisses me off lol.
In a ideal world, Nvidia should give the source code as AMD did. I don't know about serious problems with Nvidia drivers except the lack of control from Linux Foundation over the Nvidia drivers. We don't know about the security problems and it's not possible for Linux devs evaluates possible bugs or perform optimizations and quality improvement since the source code are not available. But, for now is good enough including to perform AI work using Nvidia on Linux.
They are in the same place ATI was back when I started using Linux. They did release a bunch of code a few years back, but not much has been made of it IMO. I know nothing about coding, so I could be wrong.
Davin I Résolve users are tearing their hair out, trying to run their AMD GPS on ANY Linux distro. Is there anyway that you could show us a step-by-step method to properly install our AMD GPUs… On ANY distro?? That would make a great video.-
thanks for this video! you probably saved me from selfharm
On laptops we kinda have no choice.
Tho ability to make desktop use Intel/AMD iGPU and games & other Nvidia makes it much-much better
I am going to be honest, I have nvidia RTX 3060 mobile in my laptop, it's a hit and miss, it works but not the correct way your like, It can works but you need to change, which is very rough.
Yes, you should. Perfectly stable CachyOS 4090.
Idk what cachyos dev do but I face no issue in kde wayland on my rtx3060
Nvidia said they're going open source in the future coz AI.
You can't sell GPUs if consumers can't use them in their servers.
RTX 3070 here, every other driver update seems to break some of my games. Its got me seriously considering switching to AMD for GPU next upgrade.
honesty before I was using arch and I would say no nvidia sucks. since 6 months I found the rescue of nixos. now I would say yes but important you use nixos if you have nvidia
Same here, NixOS saved me from Kubuntu
should would could, idk i use nvidia its ok maybe next build i will get amd
I'm using Debian 12 Gnome X11 and don't have any issues with my GeForce GTX 1070 running nvidia proprietary drivers. Games run about as good on Steam as they do on Windows. RUclips plays fine at 4K. OBS Studio does fine recording the desktop and did ok with a Facebook Live Stream, although I did get some glitchyness when trying to livestream Skyrim SE, although that was probably due to the hardware not being powerful enough to encode the stream fast enough.
I got so scared after the catastrophically bad experience I had with my 5700xt
I don't think I'll be buying AMD cards again. CPUs are great tho.
Just got myself t480 without nvidia just so I won't have to deal with it
You should really more try Radeon I am debating on moving on from NVIDIA to Ryzen + Radeon combination gaming Radeon is more open source NVIDIA easily deprecates their older hardware what you need dude is more open source hardware that will last a lifetime.
And what my alternative :D? You've pepsi or cola, same shit.
There’s always Intel.
The experience with both is good it just seriously depends on your needs.
Are your needs solely focused on gaming and desktop experience? then AMD is a very good experience, works better with wayland etc.
If for some reason you need 3d rendering (HIP on AMD, or rocm) you're in for a world of unneeded pain because AMD proprietary drivers (rocm) are worse than Nvidia Cuda by a mile, support is worse and less and far between software, they're a pain to install in alot of distros. They're not even supported in some software (davinci), broken in some others (substance painter) and on some they have half the features that Nvidia supports.
Even regarding the installation process, Nvidia drivers compared to rocm is just 1 click install most of the time and be done with it and all the 3d software recognizes cuda...AMD, not really
too late, i just upgraded my video card and it's amd again
Bro that choppy animation at the start 💀
Try driver 560.35.03 with atleast gnome 46.2, then better 46.5 then make a video again
Would recommend fresh install of arch or fedora
wayland is still WIP, chrome for example still have issues with wayland. I think most people won't tolerate using firefox instead of chrome. Call me blind, but for the life of me, I can't see how x11 is bad? It's still far better experience overall than wayland. Sure, wayland have fluid animations or whatever, but it still lacks many features, and software support even today.
I'm still using x11 even with amd, it's husslefree. If you want to use nvidia, it works super great on x11. People want nvidia to support latest wayland features, but the thing is, wayland itself is not mature yet, and I think nvidia knows this, that's why they just can't commit to support it fully while it's still half-baked.
very bad that i am going with amd gpu as my next gpu
The fact that this question is even asked is highly laughable and probably incomprehensible for normal people.
i have 3 vram wean i play game 4 vram ....i have many drop fps ....nvidia
People leave Windows because it's proprietary nature force decisions onto users, People want to use proprietary hardware on Linux and get mad because proprietary drivers suck. There is a reason Linus flipped off Nvida even 10 years ago. Do you think the open source developers don't have Nvida cards that they want to work on Linux? I will never recommend Nvida to anyone unless they can articulate why they need the CUDA cores.
So not so much plug and play more like plug and pray! 😊
WAYLAND IS NOT READY.........I have several PC's with nvidia cards running Linux Mint Cinnamon with proprietary drivers. They are all working FLAWLESSLY even with multiple monitors that have different refresh rates. LM22 has support until 2029 so everyone chill out and use Xorg until then if you need to........ALSO 14 years ago GNOPE and KDE decided to RUIN their DE's when they thought the desktop was dying and we all needed a tablet interface. If these are working for you great but KDE is a buggy damned mess every time I try it, and Gnope is just awful since v3. Cinnamon, XFCE, heck even LXQT or LXDE are usually better choices because they have not thrown the baby out with the bathwater.