Dream and Jellybean both do not deserve the hate they`ve gotten, they`re both hated for being cringe which isn`t really a reason to hate someone. Hate is a strong a word.
JellyBean was very young of course their gonna be cringy. Aside from the weird dreamnotfound thing he and his friend were teasing a bunch, Dream was fine. Plus if he did cheat accidently then I have nothing against him (It's still hard to believe tho).
If I had an account by the time the jellybean “controversy” started, you couldn’t image the absolutely brutal shit I would be saying against the haters (especially the ones who doxxed them)
Yeah, they doxxed someone who, let me remind you was a MINOR at the time, and those people got away with it, sure, Jellybean may be a bit cringe, but holy crap, what happened to her was unacceptable.
is it just me when he said "I have only 400 subscribers," I thought that was a joke and no way someone making videos this good could not be recognised keep up the good work btw.
@@_Cragon_funnily enough to me he seems less cringe than 75 percent of Minecraft RUclipsrs nowadays, idk where people got this idea that he is the embodiment of cringe from
I’d just like to mention that for the Shubble situation. Nothing is proven. Nobody can say: “He’s an abuser!” Or “Shubble lied!” I’m gonna knock off some things that people think proves he abused her. “He admitted to it.” No, he admitted to consensual biting, which both Shubble and Wilbur agree is consensual “Multiple people went at him after Shubble.” I don’t know anything about what Niki said, but Alice lied. That’s confirmed. Alice said they dated in 2019, but as of 2022, Wilbur hadn’t dated anyone in 5 years, dating back to 2017. So Alice and Wilbur couldn’t have dated. “His apology sucks!” …. What apology? He made a statement sharing his side of the story, not an apology-
what we do know is that Shelby beat Wilbur. According to Shelby’s cousin at least. Not the best source, but probably more trustworthy than Shelby considering she lied about Parker and faced ZERO repercussions, and ruined his life.
I think WIlbur is more hated that steeve because his actions were irl and hurt actual people, otherwise good video. (also did you get inspired by the capital city of moldova while making your name)
verry well made video, my only nitpick is that there are some even worse mc youtubers out there(Sky does Minecraft and JinBop for example), which definetly are well known aswell and id have liked to see them included, tho i also understand that there are ti many tioput into a video.
I was so pissed when I heard about what Jinbop did, and he’s out of jail now and the last I heard of him he’s now dating the girl he groomed when she was a kid. And SkyDoesMinecraft hurt even more, a part of who I am today was formed from watching his videos growing up. It just sucks all around.
W vid! Although I feel like dream is way less hated than jellybean. I think people mainly just hate on him because he is a really big RUclipsr. And no, this is not me being a dream stan, idc about his content
I can't stand Dream or any of his close personal friends (George and Sapnap, mostly). I have my own reasons that have nothing to do with allegations, or "cringe" (I would be a hypocrite because I myself am cringe and own it), or anything like that. Also, the community that they have cultivated is more insane then even Swifties or BTS Army are.
I love jellybean. She is young and loud.. she doesn’t deserve the hate.. and dream shouldn’t get any hate either.. after his face reveal it seems a lot more people hated him just because he didn’t fit their standards..
@@apple_1234Alleged. Not only was it never proven in a court of law OR brought to one, but there hasn’t been a single piece of evidence except Shelby’s cousin saying that SHELBY would hit Wilbur in arguments and verbally abuse him.
It’s mainly his toxic fanbase that actually deserves the hate, I mean, the amount of gross ship art of him and his friends (which included gore in some of them) was so wrong, especially since they were minors at the time.
Shubble did not have a problem with biting, nothing is backed by evidence and she said that the worst thing is that Wilbur didn't pay for her. This is NOT abuse.
@@_MyNameIsAJ_Gonna need some proof before I can agree with you. The only proof we have is hearsay and Shelby’s cousin, who said Shelby slapped Wilbur when he tried to calm her down in an argument, then saying “fuck you”. Incident occurred in a hotel room , even further backed up by Wilbur’s latest album, released a couple months beforehand focusing mostly on his relationship with Shubble, “hit me now before it gets too cute, don’t make me beg in this hotel room”, “i stand just out of reach of your fists”, “we could’ve kicked my arse together, we could’ve slapped my face together”, etc. Also worth noting that Shelby has a history of lying out of spite about ex boyfriends. She lied, accusing an ex boyfriend, Parker, about abuse and completely and utterly destroyed his life, facing 0 repercussions. Not to mention the fact that her story changes every time. It was initially “he bit down harder when I said stop”, now it’s “he stopped after i told him too, but it took him 1-2 seconds”. Then she said it was a miscommunication, she thought the safeword meant no biting EVER. She’s likely changing her story, either because she’s a pathological liar and/or a narcissist, or because she knows Wilbur may pursue legal action (or his record label will, they have a history of doing that.) Seems like Depp v. Heard all over again
WHERE. give me the video link or the creator of it, the article you got this information from timestamp it I what to see you evidence because the only piece of argument you have is hE aDmiTtEd iT which is not an argument or at least not a good one and saying wHy dO yOU GuyS liKe DefENdInG aBuSErs sO MuCh witch is also not an argument so I will say this again GIVE. ME. EVIDENCE. or at least give me the way you got/get your information from please and thank
Jellybean isn't what I would call "hated" anymore. They are younger and so that kind of content may not be your thing, and that's fine. But the bullying they received was really weird.
Feel very bad for dream he created a human in minecraft with coding they respect him but he still gets hate i dont get it he is a nice guy. He is littelary me he wouldnt hurt a bird nor a child he is a good human being i still respect him, we need to show him some love atleast
Those hurt so much, Sky was part of the reason why my personality is the way it is today, hearing the truth about him was heartbreaking, and I was beyond pissed at Jinbop for what he did too, and what’s worse is the last time I heard about him he’s out of jail and is dating the girl he groomed when she was a kid.
I will admit that Jellybean can be annoying, but she does not deserve hate unless she does something bad. And unless you've watched the Truth, you can't hate on Dream. I've watched through the entire video, and I believe him.
she’s a liar. She lied about Parker. And ruined his life. She’s doing the same thing now, and changing the story constantly. Shelby hit Wilbur very often during outbursts, according to Shelby’s cousin.
@mumudsadeghi9742 yeah, i say, Tommy was the thing to change Dream SMP and Dream SMP was the thing to change Tommy. "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"
Actually, we’re now learning he did less - as Shelby continues to change her story, now saying that he did stop after the safeword, but saying he took too long (1-2 seconds). She’s also a known liar, she accused her ex of the same thing and was exposed for lying. It ruined his life. She was never punished.
I like how the thumbnail says abuser and thief, bad things, and then theres just c r i n g e .
Lmao same
Bruh there were both of those in the vid
I was about yo comment the same thing lmao
A minecraft platypus?
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PERRY THE MINECRAFT PLATYPUS!
My friend, u just made my night
Dream and Jellybean both do not deserve the hate they`ve gotten, they`re both hated for being cringe which isn`t really a reason to hate someone. Hate is a strong a word.
JellyBean was very young of course their gonna be cringy. Aside from the weird dreamnotfound thing he and his friend were teasing a bunch, Dream was fine. Plus if he did cheat accidently then I have nothing against him (It's still hard to believe tho).
True most of the dream allegations have been proven wrong
I js don't like her
@@zanewithdasideye and that’s okay! But people have doxxed Jellybean and stuff, which is not okay.
fair
If I had an account by the time the jellybean “controversy” started, you couldn’t image the absolutely brutal shit I would be saying against the haters (especially the ones who doxxed them)
Yeah, they doxxed someone who, let me remind you was a MINOR at the time, and those people got away with it, sure, Jellybean may be a bit cringe, but holy crap, what happened to her was unacceptable.
is it just me when he said "I have only 400 subscribers," I thought that was a joke and no way someone making videos this good could not be recognised keep up the good work btw.
Agreed
Let’s be real Dream is probably more hated than these people (especially on Twitter)
It's sad especially sense dream proved himself innocent
Exactly, and for no reason except he's cringe
@@_Cragon_funnily enough to me he seems less cringe than 75 percent of Minecraft RUclipsrs nowadays, idk where people got this idea that he is the embodiment of cringe from
To be fair, Wilbur never admitted to being abusive, he admitted to being a bad boyfriend.
Man, its curently 11 pm here and i randonly found this channel while trying to find a dark souls video, good video tho so sub
Bro so accurate for me. Tho i wanted to find a warthunder video
@@MrBread_Mapping i was trying to see how to actually run dark souls 2 cuz mine was only giving errors
Meowbah wasn’t in this video bc she went higher than the scale can go
True
I’d just like to mention that for the Shubble situation. Nothing is proven. Nobody can say: “He’s an abuser!” Or “Shubble lied!”
I’m gonna knock off some things that people think proves he abused her.
“He admitted to it.” No, he admitted to consensual biting, which both Shubble and Wilbur agree is consensual
“Multiple people went at him after Shubble.” I don’t know anything about what Niki said, but Alice lied. That’s confirmed. Alice said they dated in 2019, but as of 2022, Wilbur hadn’t dated anyone in 5 years, dating back to 2017. So Alice and Wilbur couldn’t have dated.
“His apology sucks!” …. What apology? He made a statement sharing his side of the story, not an apology-
what we do know is that Shelby beat Wilbur. According to Shelby’s cousin at least. Not the best source, but probably more trustworthy than Shelby considering she lied about Parker and faced ZERO repercussions, and ruined his life.
The biting was consensual, except whenever she safeworded and wanted him to stop it. This happened multiple times. Wilbur did SA, deal with it.
I think WIlbur is more hated that steeve because his actions were irl and hurt actual people, otherwise good video. (also did you get inspired by the capital city of moldova while making your name)
dude, i didnt even know you had 573 your underrated bro
verry well made video, my only nitpick is that there are some even worse mc youtubers out there(Sky does Minecraft and JinBop for example), which definetly are well known aswell and id have liked to see them included, tho i also understand that there are ti many tioput into a video.
I was so pissed when I heard about what Jinbop did, and he’s out of jail now and the last I heard of him he’s now dating the girl he groomed when she was a kid. And SkyDoesMinecraft hurt even more, a part of who I am today was formed from watching his videos growing up. It just sucks all around.
W vid! Although I feel like dream is way less hated than jellybean. I think people mainly just hate on him because he is a really big RUclipsr. And no, this is not me being a dream stan, idc about his content
ppl hate dream for the community he has too
@@zynxrs true
You haven't watched his vids about the truth, he innocent not minor
@@sarah_villachuu im aware he isnt a groomer, i just dont like him in general, he annoys me. plus the community he has around him are batshit insane
I can't stand Dream or any of his close personal friends (George and Sapnap, mostly). I have my own reasons that have nothing to do with allegations, or "cringe" (I would be a hypocrite because I myself am cringe and own it), or anything like that. Also, the community that they have cultivated is more insane then even Swifties or BTS Army are.
This video is a good take on who actually is bad/makes trash content. Underrated, keep it up!
I love jellybean. She is young and loud.. she doesn’t deserve the hate.. and dream shouldn’t get any hate either.. after his face reveal it seems a lot more people hated him just because he didn’t fit their standards..
And didn’t he debunk the allegations against him? I’ve never watched Dream but I gotta give him props for proving his innocence at the time.
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Love your editing style! You deserve more traction :)
putting jelly beans a random girl on the internet who people thought was crigne for couple of months next to a fucking sexual absuer is crazy
I don't want to seem like I'm defending William gold cuz I'm not but he is a domestic abuser and not a sexual abuser.
@@apple_1234Alleged. Not only was it never proven in a court of law OR brought to one, but there hasn’t been a single piece of evidence except Shelby’s cousin saying that SHELBY would hit Wilbur in arguments and verbally abuse him.
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amazing vid, underrated as hell!!!!!! (the "u" song jumpscare always gets me lol :D)
so jellybean's biggest crime was... * checks notes * being cringe?
I think it’s kinda funny that people treat being a little cringy like it’s an actual crime. It’s so stupid.
Yea
Bro I guarantee your gonna go far never quit no matter what anyone says❤
You need to update this with DrDisrespect in this
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I thought he had 100k+ subs 😭
[You have 998 subs now i totally didn't sub]
thank you!!
Can u make a id on dreams new video
your very underrated, good video!
I actually love Jellybean and she’s not exactly cringy to me. but I could see why you would call her cringe. I understand Dream’s too much though
Yeah, Jellybean didn’t deserve the hate she got, these days it feels like being cringe is the equivalent to committing an actual crime.
@@katylepetsos7512 exactly
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nice video bro
i dont think dream desrve to be bad creator but hes only be hated because other people personal opinion
It’s mainly his toxic fanbase that actually deserves the hate, I mean, the amount of gross ship art of him and his friends (which included gore in some of them) was so wrong, especially since they were minors at the time.
I thought people stopped hating her years ago
Really good editing man! You deserve more subs! Keep it up!
underrated af
How tf is eystreem not here?
Wait what did he do
@@icepapermario99 supposedly he messaged a 13 Yr old and makes sexual thumbnails
@icepapermario99 he messaged a teenage girl on discord and makes cringe videos and sexual thumbnails and his target audience is young people
@@Raihodean oh
Jellybean didn't deserve all the hate they got
should have WAY more subs.
Shubble did not have a problem with biting, nothing is backed by evidence and she said that the worst thing is that Wilbur didn't pay for her. This is NOT abuse.
@@_MyNameIsAJ_ so you are going to hear out statements against Wilbur but not against Shelby?
@@_MyNameIsAJ_Gonna need some proof before I can agree with you. The only proof we have is hearsay and Shelby’s cousin, who said Shelby slapped Wilbur when he tried to calm her down in an argument, then saying “fuck you”. Incident occurred in a hotel room , even further backed up by Wilbur’s latest album, released a couple months beforehand focusing mostly on his relationship with Shubble, “hit me now before it gets too cute, don’t make me beg in this hotel room”, “i stand just out of reach of your fists”, “we could’ve kicked my arse together, we could’ve slapped my face together”, etc.
Also worth noting that Shelby has a history of lying out of spite about ex boyfriends. She lied, accusing an ex boyfriend, Parker, about abuse and completely and utterly destroyed his life, facing 0 repercussions.
Not to mention the fact that her story changes every time. It was initially “he bit down harder when I said stop”, now it’s “he stopped after i told him too, but it took him 1-2 seconds”. Then she said it was a miscommunication, she thought the safeword meant no biting EVER. She’s likely changing her story, either because she’s a pathological liar and/or a narcissist, or because she knows Wilbur may pursue legal action (or his record label will, they have a history of doing that.) Seems like Depp v. Heard all over again
@@_MyNameIsAJ_ Nice one. I’ve looked into this situation so you can’t just lie to my face with a stupid answer
@@_MyNameIsAJ_ my guy you still have not presented any evidence to support your claim so it’s automatically invalid
WHERE. give me the video link or the creator of it, the article you got this information from timestamp it I what to see you evidence because the only piece of argument you have is hE aDmiTtEd iT which is not an argument or at least not a good one and saying wHy dO yOU GuyS liKe DefENdInG aBuSErs sO MuCh witch is also not an argument so I will say this again GIVE. ME. EVIDENCE. or at least give me the way you got/get your information from please and thank
Jellybean isn't what I would call "hated" anymore. They are younger and so that kind of content may not be your thing, and that's fine. But the bullying they received was really weird.
underrated ngl thought u would have at least 20k subs with this editing
Do the most loved minecraft RUclipsrs
underrated channel
underrated
*makes video that’s bad*
*people get mad*
*being a bad person gets you a bad reputation*
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@@kishnef oh the people in the video sorry for the misunderstanding you’re fine
I think Dream saved himself with his new video.
Feel very bad for dream he created a human in minecraft with coding they respect him but he still gets hate i dont get it he is a nice guy. He is littelary me he wouldnt hurt a bird nor a child he is a good human being i still respect him, we need to show him some love atleast
The only thing dream deserved of any tipe of hate is the mob vote
heya! just a little comment, i believe jellybean uses they/them pronouns :)
Okay
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wow ur underrated
I'm sorry, but nothing beats Jinbop and SkyDoesMinecraft. They are by far the worst of the worst.
Those hurt so much, Sky was part of the reason why my personality is the way it is today, hearing the truth about him was heartbreaking, and I was beyond pissed at Jinbop for what he did too, and what’s worse is the last time I heard about him he’s out of jail and is dating the girl he groomed when she was a kid.
7:43 yeah it gets way worse
you forgot call me carson and leo the bear
Jellybean does NOT deserve the hate, sure they're cringe but why make them out to be the Devil of Minecraft content?
These day, people think being a bit cringy is the equivalent to committing a war crime it seems.
i literally forgot jellybean or pngtubers as a whole existed
I will admit that Jellybean can be annoying, but she does not deserve hate unless she does something bad.
And unless you've watched the Truth, you can't hate on Dream.
I've watched through the entire video, and I believe him.
your 718th sub :)
The nerve you have to put PopularMMOs there is UNECXEPTABLE
jelly bean is not a minecraft youtuber
and cash and nico arent any better than applesaucecraft
Fun video. that’s only my opinion, but bro work on your accent. I will drop a follow anyways tho
uh uh uh nothing has been solid confirmed with the wilbur situation do ur research
NO NO NO NO JELLYBEAN IS MY FAVORITE THING EVER
How old are you?
@@kishnefI don't think someone that sounds this young should say there age on the internet
#WilburSupportSquad and Shubble #StopSendingDeathThreatstoWilbur
clear out your inventory bro
Bro you got a sub .......
Bro, I was so scared it was Duckio in the thumbnail but it was just Wilbur bruh...
Jellys a clout chaser i see her channel as insignificant bc her contents isnt even minecraft anymore
Great video
Lets make it 900🙃
okay but, jellybean ngl, yeah that's true just very annoying
+ both could be a groomer
2:32 Shubble gurl where ur proof
Bro why do Minecraft RUclipsrs when they get famous they bedidle kids like leave the kids alone💀
NO SHUBBLE! poor girl! she didn’t deserve to go through that icky abuse!
P.S, you’re really underrated and your videos are really nice !!
she said she did not have a problem with biting
she’s a liar. She lied about Parker. And ruined his life. She’s doing the same thing now, and changing the story constantly.
Shelby hit Wilbur very often during outbursts, according to Shelby’s cousin.
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why is jellybean here? theyre funny
tecnoblade is dead bro
im the number 1 hated youtuber, this vids innacurate.... >:D
Good work man
I honestly like jellybeans content and support her. But I don’t support the people she supports if you know you know
So who does she support I am simple minded and don’t keep up with what people say
And I do not like people that just joined yt
(btw jellybean is the best btw}
You are so underrated this video is so suck and the not other videos
suck or sick?
peak video idk how I have more subs than you
Dont forget thzt dream is a manipulator as tommy said
bruh they are neutral about eatchother
@mumudsadeghi9742 yeah, i say, Tommy was the thing to change Dream SMP and Dream SMP was the thing to change Tommy. "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"
dream is not even close to the #1 minecraft creator what are you saying
30 million subscribers?
@@kishnef maybe according to him no 1 is MrBeastgaming
If you count it as a minecraft gamer ........
@@kishnef he hasn’t even uploaded real mc in years he is now a music “artist”
@@kishnef that would be a good video talking about dreams music career
Wilbur did more than that.
Actually, we’re now learning he did less - as Shelby continues to change her story, now saying that he did stop after the safeword, but saying he took too long (1-2 seconds).
She’s also a known liar, she accused her ex of the same thing and was exposed for lying. It ruined his life. She was never punished.
She wasnt punished because that situation is completely forgotten about and is completely irrelevant now💀@@tempejkl