E17: Big Tech bans Trump, ramifications for the First Amendment & the open Internet

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @AlejandroAlonzo8
    @AlejandroAlonzo8 3 года назад +213

    This is hands down, the best podcast available today.

    • @chasemurman8104
      @chasemurman8104 3 года назад +3

      facts I base all my worldviews off of these conversations no cap

    • @sasmills
      @sasmills 3 года назад +2

      💯💯💯

    • @md-1
      @md-1 3 года назад +3

      It is,... with the exception of Jason interrupting and his hyperbolic, extremely biased, nonsense. AND I do not need platforms to censor ANY information, I can read and I have a brain. I want to hear all sides.

    • @blackasinc
      @blackasinc 3 года назад

      Yea it's pretty legit.

    • @johnnyjohnny9996
      @johnnyjohnny9996 3 года назад

      That's debatable. Check out the Rich Dad Radio Show, i would argue there's more practical information there.

  • @lanzer22
    @lanzer22 3 года назад +68

    This level of discussion is beyond mature and responsible. Our country would not be divided if we're willing to discuss difficult issues like this.

  • @BradKaellner
    @BradKaellner 3 года назад +64

    Losing Sacks would be a huge loss for this podcast! It's so valuable to have smart people who think differently at the same table.

    • @johnahooker
      @johnahooker 3 года назад +11

      The way Sacks thinks is the most appealing out of the four for me, Friedberg fired off new idea after idea, and who can´t love Chamath as he is very charismatic and uses piercing, explosive like statements that hit the hardest and have the most impact. I feel like my intelligence is being raised by watching this.

    • @BradKaellner
      @BradKaellner 3 года назад +3

      @@johnahooker Likewise John! I should take an IQ test before and after

    • @gnash.r
      @gnash.r 3 года назад

      @@swamygee sorry to nag, and I know you had good intentions posting this comment, but the comment objectively was pretty terrible. The comments above had a nice inspiring and appreciative tone and then you felt it was so important to correct an irrelevant error.
      Maybe it's because you needed to feel good about yourself, "these guys don't know what IQ tests are, let me tell them and be the hero!", but I advise to be more socially aware and delete your comment, but the choice is of course yours.

  • @geoffbrown8669
    @geoffbrown8669 3 года назад +140

    I think we lost some interesting conclusions due to interruptions of each other. Would be better to let people conclude their comments guys

    • @michaelgaller5982
      @michaelgaller5982 3 года назад +9

      It’s that Jason guy that keeps interrupting. And he is the moderator!!!!!!!

    • @davidfletcher5121
      @davidfletcher5121 3 года назад +13

      I think that Jason is used to talking a lot in rooms where he’s one of the smartest people. In this room he is not that and I think he should let others speak. Frankly I learn the most from Chamath and he simply waits and when there’s a good opportunity to speak he does so. It makes him look like the smartest person in the room by far because he lets himself be interrupted.

    • @davidfletcher5121
      @davidfletcher5121 3 года назад +2

      Still a great podcast. I hope that sooner rather than later we can move past all of the politics.

    • @DrAAAli
      @DrAAAli 3 года назад +4

      When you put together 4 extremely high calibre minds, there's a real chance they'd debate subsection 1 of subsection 2.2.5 for hours. Jason has to cut them short or it could become a snooze fest.

  • @keithrezendes6913
    @keithrezendes6913 3 года назад +108

    This is how geniuses solve problems. Clear thinking and communication. Wished our politicians follow this lead.

    • @johnahooker
      @johnahooker 3 года назад +3

      Three of them for sure, but one of these kids is doing his own thing.

  • @mimblewimble1775
    @mimblewimble1775 3 года назад +122

    Jason please listen and let people finish making their points.

    • @mimblewimble1775
      @mimblewimble1775 3 года назад +13

      I appreciate you keeping the conversation moving forward but you seem argumentative

    • @pookiecatblue
      @pookiecatblue 3 года назад +2

      @@mimblewimble1775 I think he's got more than just a tad of TDS going on. ; )

    • @wallario
      @wallario 3 года назад +1

      Typical left when they get feelings hurt. They go vicious and start attacking personal shit. Emotional driven typical left ideology.

  • @OezgeSebisteri
    @OezgeSebisteri 3 года назад +15

    David's thought process is so beautifully sophisticated. It is so refreshing to listen to somebody who is actually able to differentiate and remain balanced without falling to one side or the other.

    • @juliankarst8829
      @juliankarst8829 3 года назад

      Huh? That's like saying it's beautiful to hear someone talk in circles.

    • @OezgeSebisteri
      @OezgeSebisteri 3 года назад

      @@juliankarst8829 you need to make a circle to see all sides of an object.

    • @derosa1989
      @derosa1989 3 года назад

      except he seems to be advocating very unsophisticated solutions. How does to too much centralized power get solved by a centralized universal internet court? How 'bout instead we just stop using the big social media platforms as if they are the public square? How about talk to people IRL?

  • @chrisg220
    @chrisg220 3 года назад +47

    In my family, no one ever talked about their feelings, apologized, or resolved issues. We were expected to just move on. I spent my 20s reprogramming my brain.
    I appreciate the Besties intentionally making tough call outs and hugging it out. Great example for the audience.

  • @darkmythos4457
    @darkmythos4457 3 года назад +38

    Sometimes I forget how amazing internet can be where such discussions are freely available.

    • @ryane1383
      @ryane1383 3 года назад +2

      Pretty soon you'll be amazed at the speed in which that changes

  • @jamesrobertjackson
    @jamesrobertjackson 3 года назад +17

    Let's be clear, Jason uses his tactics and labeling as a means to "win" the argument by calling you conservative or a Trumper. Those labels immediately seem to turn off ppls logic and reasoning. He knows what he is doing.

  • @amohar
    @amohar 3 года назад +11

    I am openly and proudly identify my self radical Liberal - but I LOVE respect Sacks opinion, and I hope Sack continue speaking his mind and share his view, it has been very educational for me...

    • @alexisstoned7796
      @alexisstoned7796 3 года назад +2

      Good for you dude. I am very liberal myself but now your side is calling me far right. Super weird to stand behind freedom of speech, equal rights, equality of opportunity, free education, actions against climate change and same time being called a nazi radical.

  • @rodolfoyoshii8345
    @rodolfoyoshii8345 3 года назад +29

    I appreciated in the last episode the candid and colorful comments and jokes. But I also agree that in a public podcast maybe some inside jokes might not be perceived correctly.
    Awesome to hear about how you guys straighten this up for the audience.

  • @j_yh
    @j_yh 3 года назад +11

    You guys are a public service. The internal discussion you guys are having reflects how many of us feel. You give us hope that there can be rational discussion between people. Thank you.

  • @rodolfoyoshii8345
    @rodolfoyoshii8345 3 года назад +74

    Who has downloaded Signal?

    • @InsuperableMany
      @InsuperableMany 3 года назад +14

      Yeah a lot of people did 5 years ago.

    • @doctordilanka
      @doctordilanka 3 года назад +1

      @@InsuperableMany LOL exactly. Been using Signal for years. This is all expected.

  • @kartikramchandran2993
    @kartikramchandran2993 3 года назад +95

    Didn't expect Sachs to start the Pod!

    • @zaydevans2077
      @zaydevans2077 3 года назад +7

      Honestly was a fun surprised

    • @xsw882
      @xsw882 3 года назад +1

      Didnt expect Sacks to win the Pod at 24:40

    • @jamesrobertjackson
      @jamesrobertjackson 3 года назад +1

      Much better start imo.

  • @BoHiC14
    @BoHiC14 3 года назад +12

    Love sacks point of view. Never leave sacks. If you do start your own pod. Your voice is invaluable

  • @thomashorn5829
    @thomashorn5829 3 года назад +57

    I think everyone on this podcast brings something different. However, I feel like Jason does a little bit too much stirring of the pot sometimes. He is a little bit sensationalist in his assessment of events and the language he uses isn't as precise as the other pod members. Wish Jason would just tone it down a notch.

    • @markj8427
      @markj8427 3 года назад +10

      He's too biased. Even after getting lambasted in the comments on the last episode he's still not getting it.

    • @OezgeSebisteri
      @OezgeSebisteri 3 года назад +2

      On the contrary, Chamath and David are able to remain centered and balanced without holding on to any kind of self-created opinion. Simply looking at the situation with clarity and differentiation. Beautiful.

  • @lawsnewton
    @lawsnewton 3 года назад +3

    Nice job Sacks, you pivoted this whole conversation to make it about Twitter instead of Trump.

  • @zbLoodlust087
    @zbLoodlust087 3 года назад +21

    Love this, tired of only hearing extremist politics

  • @aidanGCH
    @aidanGCH 3 года назад +29

    You guys are my idols. Im trying my best to learn about investing, programming, and finance. you guys have been the key motivators for me to get off my ass. I think I say this for everyone watching this right now, Thank you for taking your time to do this

    • @johnahooker
      @johnahooker 3 года назад +1

      I concur as I give it a 23rd upvote

  • @216productions
    @216productions 3 года назад +11

    Jason, with the podcast and your influence you now have the same responsibility as the media regarding threat inflation. You aren’t just talking with friends, you are likely being watched by a large number of tech executives and probably some politicians as well.

  • @OezgeSebisteri
    @OezgeSebisteri 3 года назад +1

    This is so beautiful to listen. Unbiased, and sane people talking to each other with joy and respect.

  • @yuan1
    @yuan1 3 года назад +39

    David Sacks just gave us a lesson on civics.

    • @derosa1989
      @derosa1989 3 года назад

      except the internet isn't in America. he's delusional to think the First Amendment applies to billions of people who are not Americans, and don't live by the principles of the US constitution.

  • @ahuhu
    @ahuhu 3 года назад +3

    really appreciate all your guys' effort to elaborate on the shear complexity of the problems we're facing. most of us just tend to take the easy and feel-good way out without putting too much thought into these complicated issues.

  • @jack76787
    @jack76787 3 года назад +17

    You guys are a great example of having strong opinions with respectful disagreement and remaining friends. Keep doin watcha doin!

  • @anvitshetty9676
    @anvitshetty9676 3 года назад +3

    We are living during great times . The conversation between the most powerful men on earth is available to the common man for free. Simply mind-blowing

  • @iTiM50
    @iTiM50 3 года назад +11

    Jason is detracting from the great conversation with his random interjections of Trump hate.

  • @xDreaMeRxYT
    @xDreaMeRxYT 3 года назад +4

    The guys on this pod continuously shift my perspective on critical topics / ideas while giving me tools to be a better person. Thanks for putting this content out there!

  • @donaldlouissiener5747
    @donaldlouissiener5747 3 года назад +10

    One of the most important podcast groups on RUclips. Take a cue America!

  • @adrianccole
    @adrianccole 3 года назад +29

    I love the besties. Jason might have an unhealthy relationship with Trump.
    He's let the hate Consume him a bit.
    Long live the pod 🙏

  • @mattcliver3904
    @mattcliver3904 3 года назад +47

    This is all about a loss of civility and decorum in America if not the world. This was a great conversation but you guys are all friends. America needs help.

  • @luhark9
    @luhark9 3 года назад +3

    These guys are such a breath of fresh air. Thank you.

  • @adujay
    @adujay 3 года назад +100

    Chamath and the Davids want to focus on free speech and tech censorship while again and again jason want them to discuss about "the people, trump and Guilliani" 🤣

    • @griffinlaymon7207
      @griffinlaymon7207 3 года назад +15

      Honestly, Jasons points got so repetitive

    • @markj8427
      @markj8427 3 года назад +5

      Jason should just steer the conversation, not chime in. He's too biased and emotional.

    • @adrianccole
      @adrianccole 3 года назад +4

      Jason needs to let Trump go.

    • @markj8427
      @markj8427 3 года назад

      @Adrian Cole 💯💯

    • @fantasysports2247
      @fantasysports2247 3 года назад

      "Tech censorship" are the words of softy snowflakes who can't handle being booted from a conversation. Go talk on kik, telegram, signal, etc and stop crying about private business entities protecting their product.

  • @ar-2-r
    @ar-2-r 3 года назад +3

    1 million thumbs for the respect you show to each other. One of the best podcasts at this moment out there.

  • @Dmidnightmachine
    @Dmidnightmachine 3 года назад +2

    It is such a breath of fresh air to hear such good discussion and rational thinking from intelligent individuals who don't all share the same political opinions.

  • @hjkayne
    @hjkayne 3 года назад +7

    I was just purged from Twitter today. 😂 For simply saying in my opinion, CA is 1 party state. Frieberg just said the same phrase too... will You Tube's algos ban him?

  • @alekgonzalez4457
    @alekgonzalez4457 3 года назад +28

    My favorite podcast, worth staying up and loosing sleep!

  • @agreen6301
    @agreen6301 3 года назад +9

    I find it so fascinating to watch people talk their book, and eventually conclude that what's best for them personally is the "moral" thing to do. Salesman eventually start believing their own sales pitch. I don't blame them for it, but I think their ego prevents them from seeing it in themselves.

  • @SingularityAGI
    @SingularityAGI 3 года назад +26

    I wish to have a bestie group like this.

    • @unendingnow9320
      @unendingnow9320 3 года назад +1

      I know, where everyone listens so carefully and talks so thoughtfully.

  • @Iwijn2000
    @Iwijn2000 3 года назад +19

    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
    -Evelyn Beatrice Hall

    • @PaweuW
      @PaweuW 3 года назад +1

      I like how you didn't attribute this quote to Voltaire

    • @Iwijn2000
      @Iwijn2000 3 года назад +2

      @@PaweuW I actually thought is was Voltaire before I looked it up woops haha

    • @PaweuW
      @PaweuW 3 года назад

      @@Iwijn2000 hah, that's how we learn :)

  • @thecrazyandthewild
    @thecrazyandthewild 3 года назад +3

    If this podcast reached # 2 still there's hope!!!!! Thank you, guys, and have a great day!!!!

  • @marcusfisher3941
    @marcusfisher3941 3 года назад +2

    I'm at 9:35 and have already heard more honesty and introspection than all other podcasts I listened to in 2020.
    *Wetting my beak with wisdom*

  • @SteveMayzak
    @SteveMayzak 3 года назад +1

    Love the discourse. Thanks for having it out in the open. Let’s hope we can keep it that way

  • @timothymcaleer6480
    @timothymcaleer6480 3 года назад +5

    Friedberg's point about "You don't need the app-store, just host your own website" is absolutely ridiculous after seeing Parlor tag-teamed by Google, Apple, Amazon, Github, and more. It's equivalent to saying "Sure, some Trump people are crazy, but what are they gonna do? Storm the Capitol?"

  • @Mrodetv
    @Mrodetv 3 года назад +6

    hopefully jason reads all these comments....he is beyond too emotional when everyone else is completely rational, calm and collected

  • @nbultman_art
    @nbultman_art 3 года назад +13

    Been watching from the beginning and starting to feel Jason is a little too judgemental and not objective to be moderating maximum value from these brilliant minds.

    • @markj8427
      @markj8427 3 года назад +4

      Agreed. He's good on the mic, but can't temper his emotions enough. Show would be better without him imo

  • @wealthessential4515
    @wealthessential4515 3 года назад +6

    Jason lost me with his far left fear speech!! This is the reason the country can not come together.

    • @wealthessential4515
      @wealthessential4515 3 года назад

      @@apologies40 I get it! However I can watch CNN for those topics, I’m here to learn investing strategy from great investors.

  • @gunner8216
    @gunner8216 3 года назад +1

    The level of intellect between these 4 is astonishing. I really enjoy the thought-process and level of analysis these people bring onto serious events that FOX or CNBC would just spew some political propaganda. This is some of the most important thinking in our generation to come.

  • @Arri11
    @Arri11 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much or being so real and raw.
    Really appreciate you guys being vulnerable and voicing out.
    Much love

  • @Sabbath78
    @Sabbath78 3 года назад +23

    Thank you Chamath for shutting Jason down at 29:30, great podcast everyone else 👍

    • @tonyvalentine3712
      @tonyvalentine3712 3 года назад

      This is why the podcast is growing so fast, I enjoy both perspectives 😁

    • @teezysleezer
      @teezysleezer 3 года назад +2

      Lol Jason is a bit emotional and passionate and shouldn’t interrupt as much but I love that he doesn’t group think. Everyone has their own unique viewpoint. Get over yourself.

    • @Sabbath78
      @Sabbath78 3 года назад

      @@teezysleezer my comment is harsher than I meant it, happy for everyone on the podcast team 👌

  • @Fly557ing
    @Fly557ing 3 года назад +4

    This Podcast needs to be viewed by millions - please spread the word - this brain trust knocks it out of the park ! Again !

  • @mitulsivakumar13
    @mitulsivakumar13 3 года назад +3

    Organizations in India have already asked Facebook to retract their new WhatsApp policy.

  • @nikkigiannopoulos3569
    @nikkigiannopoulos3569 3 года назад +2

    Trump is the outsider, the distrupter. Yes, the things he says and the way he acts are a bit rich, but he definitely did a lot of positive things that benefitted the way this country is ran.

  • @ahsugoi
    @ahsugoi 3 года назад +3

    Much respect David Sacks

  • @MiguelMartinezmtzzz
    @MiguelMartinezmtzzz 3 года назад +1

    The beginning was awesome. The details are so important in politics! Not everything is wright or wrong, with me or against me, etc.

  • @JeffFlowersgoogle
    @JeffFlowersgoogle 3 года назад +3

    We need more of this - Critical Thinking and civil discourse.

  • @MultiIrritant
    @MultiIrritant 3 года назад +13

    When a rave is so intense that it has to be censored

  • @sasmills
    @sasmills 3 года назад

    The first 20 minutes tugged on my heart strings a but...
    Is it normal to feel this grateful toward a group of strangers... And moved by their resolution and words?

  • @eaon858
    @eaon858 3 года назад +7

    Jason C.
    I understand you're the host and moderator of the podcast, but please stop interrupting your guests when they are explaining their ideas and viewpoints. Such interruption include "1000 chessboards" etc types of comments.
    looking forward to future episodes. Thank you.

  • @Witnessmoo
    @Witnessmoo 3 года назад +5

    Without free speech, we have nothing

  • @ahmad_76725
    @ahmad_76725 3 года назад +23

    Jason is always interrupting. Let them complete their points for god sake.

    • @rodolfoyoshii8345
      @rodolfoyoshii8345 3 года назад +3

      I think he was particularly wound up today.

    • @markj8427
      @markj8427 3 года назад +1

      David was only half joking in the intro

  • @xsw882
    @xsw882 3 года назад +3

    24:40 Absolute best, most clear-eyed view of the Trump situation from Jan 6 and onward by David Sacks

  • @Hapatato
    @Hapatato 3 года назад +27

    Oh no why did I have to see this get posted when it's almost midnight

    • @russeldeakin8792
      @russeldeakin8792 3 года назад +3

      3:10 lol, never check you computer in the middle of the night.

  • @juanmadero7941
    @juanmadero7941 3 года назад

    All these guys offer a great perspective. I'm glad so many people are listening to this pod.

  • @ersibice3276
    @ersibice3276 3 года назад +36

    Jason interrupted a little too much on this one.

  • @rudystar711
    @rudystar711 3 года назад +1

    Ton of respect for you guys putting yourself out there and starting important and often difficult conversations. This tit-for-tat situation is a real problem. I would love to hear more discussion about when the line was crossed for each party e.g. shutting down the govt bc you didn’t get your way or abusing powers etc etc

  • @thefutureman8577
    @thefutureman8577 3 года назад +1

    The speculation on what happened at the Capital should be revisited since we now the truth.

  • @rutvikacharya409
    @rutvikacharya409 3 года назад

    I love hearing the different perspectives. I’m an immigrant and I can honestly say this country is the best. “Only in America”.

  • @skeptic4031
    @skeptic4031 3 года назад +4

    Another fabulous All In episode ! Tops even the last one, if that’s even possible !!! Great job guys !!

  • @jamesrobertjackson
    @jamesrobertjackson 3 года назад +12

    Thanks Chamath for calling out Jason. That was silly.

    • @juliankarst8829
      @juliankarst8829 3 года назад +1

      What did he call out that you agreed with? His facts? Maybe you prefer pointless jerk off philosophy?

  • @danf3607
    @danf3607 3 года назад +3

    Love you guys. See, I can say it Sax, and I’m British! 🤣 Thanks again for taking the time.

  • @chavycash2518
    @chavycash2518 3 года назад +3

    Chamaths ending story was the best moment in the history of the All in Podcast!

  • @gfsrow
    @gfsrow 3 года назад +2

    Excellent discussion. Thank you.

  • @carlosrodriguez-hv5px
    @carlosrodriguez-hv5px 3 года назад +4

    Did ya'll see how Chamath tried to lay the groundwork for MP Materials...Brilliant!!!

  • @Canadian-bz7ch
    @Canadian-bz7ch 3 года назад +2

    Good to see someone defending freedom of speech @Sacks. Who'd have thought I'd agree with a Trump supporter /s

  • @SnapDragon3489
    @SnapDragon3489 3 года назад +36

    Jason is like a kid in a adult conversation

    • @juliankarst8829
      @juliankarst8829 3 года назад +3

      Because he brings up specific examples to challenge the broad philosophies of Chamat and Sacks?

  • @danjuricic9582
    @danjuricic9582 3 года назад +1

    So good thanks guys!! All around top notch takes

  • @houleronald
    @houleronald 3 года назад +16

    You should have Dorsey come to your podcast and give his version.

  • @NathanKlym
    @NathanKlym 3 года назад +3

    I agree with others - best pod cast out there right now. Please do one a week!!!

  • @rainmaker704
    @rainmaker704 3 года назад +1

    I wish you guys could come on everyday. You guys are top notch. Watching yall is like having a seat at the cool guys table.

  • @iandesmet215
    @iandesmet215 3 года назад +2

    Jason didn't do enough to unite, he brought more points to divide

    • @iandesmet215
      @iandesmet215 3 года назад

      But yea they all mean well 😊

  • @hseas3793
    @hseas3793 3 года назад +1

    Great job on the podcast, it is always a pleasure to listen to great thinkers talk

  • @lilUrso11
    @lilUrso11 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Jason and David for sharing your thoughts about labeling people, it was heartfelt.......then I loved Jason’s humor on his Faux wrapping up the episode with David’s comments, I cracked up it was too funny!

  • @attention_shopping
    @attention_shopping 3 года назад +1

    last discussion was great - loved how it was split on opinions and never thought it ended with poor feelings

  • @collinanderson1303
    @collinanderson1303 3 года назад +9

    I’ve been waiting for this all day

  • @Materoftheheart
    @Materoftheheart 3 года назад +12

    Jason needs to put aside is personal feeling about Trump and discuss things subjectively like the rest of the team.

    • @JasperGibbons
      @JasperGibbons 3 года назад

      exactly... he is not doing himself any justice.

    • @Materoftheheart
      @Materoftheheart 3 года назад

      @@Samsonight33 thanks for the correction 😁

  • @edwardestrada619
    @edwardestrada619 3 года назад +1

    Literally the only thing I dislike about about this pod is how Jason cuts people off when they are developing a good thought.

  • @engage3085
    @engage3085 3 года назад +2

    Amazing guys! Didnt make it past the intro before commenting. Just fantastic content and cant thank you guys enough for sharing. To the beaks!🍻

  • @philwhln
    @philwhln 3 года назад +1

    Great conversation. Needed

  • @rodolfoyoshii8345
    @rodolfoyoshii8345 3 года назад +1

    Awesome. Thx for throwing another podcast in less than a week!!!
    Kudos guys! Thx

  • @deepakchaulagai5891
    @deepakchaulagai5891 3 года назад +3

    David Friedberg is just fantastic.

  • @coder8i
    @coder8i 3 года назад

    Great discussion and thank you for setting some examples for reconciliation.

  • @sharigordon6312
    @sharigordon6312 3 года назад

    Always enjoy your podcasts and hearing different viewpoints.

  • @aaaaachew
    @aaaaachew 3 года назад +1

    This is brilliant! Well done guys!

  • @katatoniameows
    @katatoniameows 3 года назад

    Most thought-provoking podcast ever 💜

  • @ersibice3276
    @ersibice3276 3 года назад

    All politicians should be required to listen to this podcast

  • @adujay
    @adujay 3 года назад +10

    Jason can you please give Friedberg enough time to speak..

  • @roneelraju5441
    @roneelraju5441 3 года назад

    So much wisdom in this podcast. Favourite Podcast by far 🔥
    Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts

  • @Dustystyles
    @Dustystyles 3 года назад +1

    I love this podcast.

  • @zethereum
    @zethereum 3 года назад +3

    "we're all besties here" - shortly before JC and DS start to shank each other relentlessly 😂