Wow. I have no machining knowledge/experience. Vocalizing every single action (or reason for inaction) really makes a educational video better for a lay person. This was beautiful. I would've never thought a cube could be made in a lathe - now it's like "of course!" Thanks for an interesting 20m
Just for future ref it's lathe pronounced "lay the". Not picking on you just know a guy that called it a lay and heard him get torn apart by a bunch of people. I am a machinist and I could care but some people sure do. Take care pal.
Thank you for this. My father was taught to be a machinist in the Navy before WW II, his final test was a cube accurate to ± 0.001 using only a lathe. He had a trade that served him well until he passed in 1993. This gave me some insight.
Just like I used to do it with my 4-jaw chuck before I retired. Perfectly logical, and a stepping-off point for making more complex solid figures. My lathe was built in 1943 four years before I was born, by Logan, a Kentucky shop that still makes parts for my lathe. My particular lathe was sent to Detroit for manufacturing parts for World War II, and then was used in Houston to refurbish electric motors on ships that came into harbor. Logan was able to give me the history of my particular lathe, which I still own, and which still can cut to one-thousandth of an inch.
Nothing like an old piece of equipment! I had a mill as an apprentice that was on loan to England during WW2. It had a nice plaque on it's side from the King thanking Canada for sending it. Thanks for sharing your story.
Hi Daniel (a year later, heh.) Sounds like you knew that machine pretty well. I am curious, how much wear did the ways have? I know that some of the machine tools used for the war effort were rode hard, 3 shifts a day making parts as big as they can swing. Regular maintenance would have helped, but how did your in particular fare? How much wear in the carriage nut and screw? Were the jaws badly bellmouthed? I'd love to get into machining, but there are damn few places doing anything but CNC around here.
I’m not a machinist but have ran a lathe a few times in my day and found this very informative and interesting on how and why things were done in keeping reference points👍👍
Sorry if this idea ends up making your work obsolete and putting you out of a job, but have you tried leaving the round things round and the square things square, and just using them in the shape they start in? ;)
coryman125 Your not a machinist are you. Creativity and humor go hand in hand. Sometimes, especially in repair and R&D work you have to with the material and machinery at hand..
Now that's truly funny... and too often, really true! With many years of random experience but very little "formal training," I'm far too familiar with that concept!!
@@docalexander2853 Really? Define "right way"! There are many ways to do many things. What is being demonstrated here is 1 way, not the only way! I have used a lathe as a mill many times and vice-versa. Don't be so quick to judge just because you wouldn't do it this way!
Regardless of the right or wrong way, you didn't learn the basics by watching a video lol you have to actually do it to learn it. You don't even know how to change the rpm on a lathe by watching this
I loved my time as a toolmaker in the 80's. I was taught by a genius who was born in 1933. A truly great man. I've applied that knowledge since many many times, much more in fact than anything I was taught in school. Thank you Sam. R.I.P.
Use to be a machinist and never thought of doing this but I found it Fascinating indeed.. I use to do many things one being making or finishing complete brake rotors from a raw casting, thousands of them.
I remember doing this in high school it was our final exam. A perfect 1 inch cube. Some students got away with being off a few thousands and were graded accordingly but some were held to a higher standard. I got to see mine thrown in the garbage twice for not being perfect. Off by one thousandth, lol. Thankful he pushed me to always give it my best effort.
You did this in HIGH SCHOOL?! Now i REALLY feel like an inept asshole. I'm 37 and before watching this i would have told you it's impossible to make a cube on a lathe😂silly me.
Thankx machiningmoments. For those questioning the accuracy I think the concept was to show how the X plane can be used to create flat surfaces beyond simple facing with the versatility of a 4 jaw chuck on a machine that typically is thought of as a radially cutting machine. The block could have been indicated more precise of course but cool demonstration vid. Like turning with a boring head on a mill. When square is needed and looking at all the mills set up and a mill is not available this is thinking outside the blox ;- ) Thanks again.
I know you been around machines to even do this even public. Congrats and ...thank you for reminding me of the old school beauty of a 4 jaw chuck with all the CNC now. It's amazing to think that even with the cad incorporated software on the actual cnc today withon screen tool paths and machine memorized tool data banks that the same results can be established manually. I remember a guy wanted an angle on a lathe and I used the x + z to 'draw' the angle by using a larger than needed radius tool and moved the x and z to every .005 thou move to 'generate the angle. :-) Kudos to you machiningmoments
ps. I'm still in school as I see it. Remember the day when I had to be best leading to competition. Tsk tsk! Teamwork and ideas together go sooo much more. If I had my way I'd like to attack a piece of leadloy and sink the full CNMG 422 insert at .025 per rev. Looking to grab My 1st machine for the barn now. Thx for reply and the info. lol ... No ...Thank you! ;- )
Wow! Centering that stock really impressed me. I mean, I'm no turner myself but the smooth confidence and ease with which you just did that, I found quite amazing. I'm sure I'd have been there all day going back and forth. I'm also quite sure that not many people out there realise just how much skill it takes to do that. But to do it with such nonchalance? Outstanding! Sir! You are a master!.
machiningmoments I thought this video great, before I started watching I tried to figure out how to you were going to do it, but I couldn't. Great video thanks for sharing 👍
I was a machinist before I got into computer networking. I really miss making useful parts. Electronics is fine, but creating intricate parts from stock metal is real skill.
Someone who gets it! I was a carpenter before I broke my back forcing me into an IT job. Now I work as a software engineer and any time I discuss my former life, none of my co-workers get it at all. I miss truly making things.
I framed houses for a while ( 5 years ). Now I'm a software engineer, and I miss the satisfaction of looking at something at the end of the day, and thinking that "I made that". I do garage machining now to satisfy that emptiness. On a side note, software pays a bit better than framing. I too had a back injury that made me rethink my career choices. I miss that satisfaction, I don't miss working in the rain, or walking on 2x4 walls, or packing lumber, or stepping on nails, splinters, ring shanks, pushy general contractors, not getting paid... the list is long. I guess part of the romance of a trade is the adversity of achieving something worthwhile.
That was so cool! I'm not a metal worker, but a woodworker. I always say, I make the wood do what it doesn't want to do. That's what you're doing here. But to take a piece of round bar stock, put it into a chuck spinning in a circle and have it come out square is just magical! Thanks. very entertaining.
Great video, from start to finish. I was initially expecting a straightforward machining video (you know the type) but this went into so much more detail, and was very much appreciated by myself. Gotta love that ending, too, "there it is" cut!
Thanks for an interesting video showing the principle of machining a cube. It was ideal for somebody like me who spent a few weeks at a workshop practice training course over 50 years ago making the obligatory scribing block.
Artistry. If humans haven't destroyed each other in a couple of centuries, I reckon this lathe instruction will be shown in archaeology classes. I recently had to remove 3 musket guns the old man has had since I was a kid. Mum was scared of the bayonets on them. Dad had them mounted on a wooden gun rack I made him in woodworking class in 1971. On the back, it shows I got 9 1/2 out of 10. Looking at it now, I could have done a bit more sanding. I was entranced at this video. Memories of wood lathing at school.
This video took me back to my days at Western Technical and Commercial School in Toronto, Ontario. Starting in grade 9 in 1967 we took Machine Shop for 4 years. We started off making a rock hammer. Later we made a clamp. The education that school gave me in a wide variety of shops including electricity, drafting etc. has provided me with a good basic understanding of a lot of things mechanical. I was also fortunate to have a father and later a father-in-law that both worked with their hands. They both taught me about all sorts of things that further advanced my technical training and skill development. I can still remember a question on my grade 9 Machine Shop test and later the final exam. Give three uses for knurling? I'll leave it up to the RUclips viewers to provide the answers. My father in law taught me not force it; don't break it. My father taught me to whistle while I work. Today, I whistle while I work and hopefully don't break anything. The education that WTCS provided us was a good one. Thank you Mr. Depietro, Head of the Machine Shop Department, for taking the time to teach us somethings about working with metal lathes. I for one appreciated your efforts. I have never forgot the three uses of knurling ever since.
Great memories, I too had a great shop teacher. We were friends until he died. I'm sure in high school he thought I would never amount to anything...but he didn't give up. Great guy. I also come from a line of tradespeople and my children are in the trades and very successful. BTW I grew up down the road from you. Thanks for sharing your memories. Oh yeah, grip, appearance, and press fit. ;)
My teacher was amazed when I machined a 1" cube, no-one in the class thought I could do it. A whole afternoon of machining I had copper, brass, steel and aluminium cubes. I was taught to use the lathe by a very enthusiastic amateur who made his own race car parts. It is so good to see machining done the good old way, none of this CNC malarkey and certainly no 3D printing :)
Some people might thing the lesson is rudimentary but for people like myself it's advancing my knowledge from the almost zero point and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain it all as many others wont bother.
i'm a cnc operator. it would never have occured to me you can actually make a cube on a conventional lathe, we just use a mill and let the computer have fun with it. very nice job there! also i can finally see the benefit of a four independent jaw chuck. thats craftmanship😀
My grandfather was a machinist, later roundhouse foreman for the Santa Fe railroad shops in Los Angeles from 1898-1951. As a young kid, I remember him having the complete alphabet on a shelf in his office that he had machined on the shop lathes from scrap steel. Myself best I have ever done is a couple doorknobs' under his supervision. Great video.
I just got my dads South Bend lathe that he got from his great uncle in 1972. I can’t wait to learn how to use it!! I’m trying to take in as much info as I can. Thank you very much.
Everyone's commenting on how it's not perfect....I don't see many tutorials that are more than "I'm gonna show you what to, but you figure out how to do it better." The whole point of teaching isn't to show them exactly how to make it flawlessly, but to give them direction and then let them figure it out. That's how people learn.
This is the problem with a lot of people coming into machining. They want to be told exactly how to do it and not have to think about it. All I can do is show a guy a method that gets the job done, they need to use sense to improve it or get it done better.
Kyo Grey I understand the idea that nobody’s perfect but this video didn’t need to be 20 minutes and it didn’t need half the narration. If you’re not smart it’s bad form to assume your audience is stupid.
He doesn't need to be perfect to teach you how to do something, nor does he need to do it perfectly. Also, if you don't like the length of the video, watch it at 1.5x or 2x speed.
Yes indeed, a very neat process which can be as accurate as U want it for intents and purposes. Thanks for showing and sharing. Much appreciated. ATB aRM
For the person just starting out machining on a lathe. This is good practice. One of my first practice/ play projects was an aluminum cube in a cube. Have it laying on a shelf along with a ball peen hammer of brass with aluminum handel. Also made a 1.5 x 1.5 dice. The dice gave layout and mill experience. Making things is how you learn and gain confidence. Making things to precise dimension is where you learn of patience.
As a fellow machinist, one thing I love watching is slow motion videos of chips breaking. I've made a few slow-mo videos and they are always satisfying!
way cool. For those who care, it's a simple task to move over to a surface grinder and make it perfect. This tutorial is an example of how to use a lath for milling projects when all you have is a lathe. precision is a mindset. learn to use the tools you have.
What sort of surface grinder ? Using an abrasive to flatten a surface is extremely difficult - the edges that scrape the abrasive always get slightly more abraded than the middle. I don't think an abrader could improve on the exact flatness produced by a lathe. The only way to perfect the cube would be to re-lathe it to finer tolerances.
I could watch and listen to this all day. Been in and around machine shops much of my career and still love the smell of machine oil and the beauty of hand made parts. Great vid- many thanks.
I loved it! This video took me back 40 years to engineering school. All us green would-be engineers had to work through a wide range of machining/construction classes to make sure we didn't go off designing things that couldn't be manufactured. Thanks for taking me back to some great memories.
It was my pleasure. I am very fortunate to work with future engineers. I like having the ability to show them processes and help them understand designs and fits. Great group of people.
If they already know how to do it, then theyre not watching to see how its done. Theyre watching so they can point out mistakes and make themselves feel good.
I already know how to turn a cube on a lathe. But I don't pretend to think I know everything, and I want to see this method, and how it is different from how I do it. I've learned a lot from watching others processes, and this is no different. I'm no pro, but there are things that I would do differently. In the context of an instructional video, this shows what it needs to show, conceptually how it's done. Is this way the perfect way to do it? No. Is it a step toward the perfect way, very much so.
Lol that's true for so many jobs, can't remember how many times I've messed up a tiny non consequential thing and been terrified the customer will consider me an idiot, meanwhile the customer is just mindblown that my product is functional whatsoever.
nice tutorial. i was working machine shop for 5 years out of school. At 2 1/2 years in my little firm went into another shop which primarily dealt with steel sheet fabrication......but there was one man and a machine shop there ( with myself, my original boss, he's machines and a couple of workmates soon to be added of course!) and what the man did with the same machines I had been working on for 2 1/2 years was incredible. The work on he's bench was like science fiction to me. For the first 2 weeks we were moving in I used to stop by his bench before start time to view the astounding metal shapes he had made before the day started.....and he would knock he's spectacles down and glower at my impertinence. i would say "I won't touch anything i just want to look" I knew his skills surpassed my previous employer Ted (now foreman for a year before retirement at this new site) who had a similar amount of time in the trade to this new superman I had encountered. My former boss had so far trained me up and I considered him to be an impressive machinist - and he was. After viewing wonderman's work again one morning I said to Ted "I know that guy is in the same game as us, he uses the same machines but.....if there is anyone here who could make a round peg fit in a square hole and leave no gaps it's Vic" Ted smiled (possibly put a hand on my shoulder) and said "thats a good analogy eddie. Vic is what is called a Tool Maker and he is the very top of what our profession can be.....and sadly you may never meet he's like again" He then explained to me how CNC machines were killing the training of such engineers as, rather than a skilled machinist using several machines to make an intricate item from metal, a programmer just had to enter a program into a machine that would do the whole thing. I became friends with Vic over the next 2 1/2 years of my career, though not outside of work socially. At work he used to drop he's spectacles occasionally and look at what I was doing. Every now and then he would pop up beside me with a job and ask "how would you do this ed" and I'd work out and tell me my job MO to him. He was particularly interested in how I trued up by eye using the chuck key and would then machine straight away (even when I had already turned/bored part of the piece) and once pointed to a piece of round that he'd just nipped up in a 3 jaw chuck and went "true that up for me ed", which I did, took me 10 seconds. Instead of machining it he got out a dial caliper to check it and upon ascertaining a result he looked up at me over he's spectacles, maybe with a slight glare, and firmly stated to the whole shop "I don't believe it, he's within 1/2 a thou by eye" He did once tell me that if he could choose an apprentice it would be me. That I understood the machines and the tolerances and had a good feel. Made me proud that did. I left that firm to try another, Kangol power tools. I met the dreaded CNC there and it was a soul destroyer of a thing. I felt my skills would desert me over the passage of time there as I became another boiler suited hulk lent against the side of one of these machines with nothing to do as it ripped through metal. I went back to the previous firm for a while but left after 6 months for personal reasons and never went back into machining. The mental process I honed during my time in the field has probably saved me thousands of pounds over the years. I fix shit when I can. I find ingenius ways of getting a good result without the right machines and tools by putting bits together to make a machine or even making the right tool to do the job. I do miss the lathes, the mills and the smell of the suds still though. ps, can't believe I just wrote my autobiography in engineering.....a bit short maybe?
I liked it .. then I read some of the Perfektionspolizei comments .. and I still liked it .. then I read some of the appreciative comments .. and I liked it even more.. ty for posting! : )
I was impressed, I admit it. I learned turning and milling as a borstal boy in Wetherby, and although I never followed it up after my release the satisfaction of a well-turned piece remains with me, as well as the noise and smell of the shop...
Many years ago, I taught a computer controls class in which one problem was to machine a 1-inch cube on a 3-axis mill. Almost all thought it would be an easy lab, until they tried to do it. ^_^. I really like it when someone clearly explains how to do something that seems impossible at the start. Also, I’ve gained a new appreciation for a 4-jaw chuck. Great video! Thanks.
Just chucking up the second face by eye isn't going to be very parallel. You need to use stops or parallels before you face the second side to get it parallel to the first.
Thank you, when I heard "Should be parallel to each other", I clicked stop and scrolled down to find your comment, as I knew it would be here. Sadly, this is not a very thorough, or should I say, accurate, outline of working on a lathe for anyone who wouldn't already know how to do this.
@@markcayton6712 My thoughts entirely...should have clocked the chuck face...That battered old Coley....looks like its done its time ? (Favourite general Iron though !). On a good Triumph....you should be looking at turning to dead...everytime...if needed ? Most now quote Limits & Fits as Bigga & Littla Hammer ?
Exactly @@JS-el3zm . Its one thing to comment on parallel or something, quite another to call someone's video showing basic operations worthless. Of course, those doing this often have no video's of their own to offer in place of their green with envy bs.
For non-machinist , it would have been a nice touch at the end to show you measuring the block showing that it it is (with in tolerances) a square. Maybe my anal trait is talking. Absent that in this video, I found this AMAZING and I have watched a number of "Lathe" videos. No matter how much one knows, there is always something simple to learn. Best wishes.
Hi Rick, thanks for your comment as I replied to Paul below the process was my focus. In fairness to the comments the block likely was not square...I don't know, I didn't check it as I was only demonstrating the process. I would have put more care if it was functional. No matter how well I feel I think these videos out someone on this board has a good suggestion to make it better. There are some very talented people here and I feel the input is helpful for us all. You are right, you can make super cool things on a lathe.
I noticed that you did measure it after the second face was being cut. I assume if that was done after every necessary step it would end up square to desired tolerances. Cheers.
rick dees ... ‘within’ not ‘ with in’. Used in a sentence, “Your English grammar is within tolerance standards for a child still in elementary school.” I’m not sure that a sentence can be made with your ‘with in’.
@@machiningmoments I am a time served Turner / Toolmaker...and I thought it was excellent ! really good to see the dexterity of a lathe being portrayed, and the skills needed to make use of it ! To the million places behind the decimal place crowd...would you really be doing this in a lathe if you wanted that sort of accuracy ? Rough it out yes...finish elsewhere...if needed ?
I have been a lathe turner for ten years and I would never have thought this would be possible, but it's so simple! I actually remember asking my shop teacher if you could turn squares on a lathe and he said it was impossible :D
My one and only metalworking class had us, in one term, take an ugly chunk of steel and make as perfect a cube as we could make. Some of those finished items started out as 3" x 3" x 2.5" chunks, ended up as 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/2" and they still weren't cubes. This video shows how knowing what your tool can do can make things a lot easier. Thank you for doing this one.
Always found turning very therapeutic. As an Apprentice Turner I had to make a cube in a cube in a cube. Really peeved I couldn't keep it as they mounted it in some gimbles and gave it as an award to some School girl who was doing a one day course.
This is a good example of "How do I make a square part for my mill when the mill is down waiting for a part?". You just use your lathe. I'm about to do the reverse: I need to make a round part for my lathe to get it running again. Guess I just use my mill.
Humanity: can you please give us the lathe? jacques vaucanson: to make perfect cylinders for rolling silk? Humanity: yeeeeeeess jacques vaucanson: okay i dont see why not! Humanity: * makes cube * * dabs * ITS MINECRAFT TIME
I was a trained fitter& machist ..Toolmaker my apprentice was for five years. Was extremely good training . This training gave me a very good basis for many very interesting employment.
Excellent demo of how to use a machine to accomplish something that is not usually it's purpose. The accuracy of the finished article or the knowledge that it could be more easily produced by other means, is not the main concern here, it is the proof of concept.
Very interesting! But I can't cope with this measurement "thou" - sure I know its 1000th of an inch - but using metric is soooo much easier in general and way less risk of miscalculation!
Very clever... but CLICK ON LIKE if you felt like putting on your safety eye wear the moment the chuck started spinning with the work piece placed in sideways.
I, for one, found that a fascinating video. It never occurred to me that you could make a square object with a lathe. Thank you for teaching me something new today!
Great tutorial. I am not a machinist but have done this process in high school way back in 1962. Good thing to let people know why things cost what they do cost.
It is great to see that some people have not forgotten how to make items out of other items that are useful. Handmade items are becoming rarer by the day.
Thanks for posting this brilliant video. I am a professional woodworker(carpenter) in the UK. I never signed up for woodwork at school but was to be found in the metalwork shop. We could have done with a bit of your personal supervision in our classes ; how no lad ever lost a finger or a hand or eyesight or worse was pure grace of God ! We had acid baths ( for the cleaning of our copper and brass work) . I remember we had this milling machine that rocked back and forth , it was all too easy to overturn the feed wheel - the next thing you knew the work piece and vice were on the floor! Looking back , maybe the reason I switched from metal to wood in later life had to do with a pschycological dread of disfigurement :) Anyway keep up the good work Mr machining moments
@@Artemetra Don't be too quick on that one. As an green horn apprentice T&D maker back in '76 I had to take a piece of crs saw cut on all 6 sides and hand file a precision cube out of it. My boss/instructor back then was an older German dude right from the old country with a heavy German accent, we called Hard Core Harry who accepted nothing less than perfection. He used to come by, pick up a part off your cart or machine, look at it and say things like. It's a good thing you don't have to make a living at this or you would STARVE TO DEATH and then walk away leaving you to figure out just what the hell you were doing wrong. He forced lazy ass kids to actually use their brain, me included, we all hated/feared him. As I got older and more experienced I came to understand that he was a brilliant T&D maker. His "in your face" drill Sargent style teaching techniques were pretty barbaric by today's standards but every single apprentice that survived hard core Harry were top notch T&D makers and machine builders! I learned more from that man then any other person in my life to date. Today's snowflakes would be running for their safe spaces with their blankey if faced by him!
I'm Neither a machinist nor an engineer but am often told that I think like one. Probably why this was fascinating to watch. Thanks for the lesson. ;~)
As a US Navy MM, the Machine Shop MRs were my best friends. It always amazed me how they were able to make pump shafts with square or hex keys on the ends using a lathe.
I have only just starting out. I got myself a ok machine she is a oldy. Belt run with gears I never knew you could do that. Thankyou for taking the the time to show us. I have now subscribed. Looking forward to learning more from you. Kind regards Andy
I started in high school machine shop then went to repair machinist right out of high school and loved doing it. I repaired bearing surfaces which is somewhat boring but working on lathes, milling machines was great.
The strength and precision of the lathe impresses me. The math is impressive too. The finished cube is 1 cubic inch. The beginning stock is 3.1416 in³. Therefore the waste is 2.1416 cu in, or 68.169% of the original stock. If I tried to machine this I would hit at least 100% waste! ... Plus the tools and equipment damage. Tons of respect to this machinist!
When I was in the shop as an apprentice (30 odd years ago) I would use the lathe to remove material off square stock as it was quicker than doing it by hand. We only had 2 mills and 2 shapers but loads of lathes. Yeah its not the most accurate, but if I wanted accuracy there was always the surface grinder. This video gets you thinking outside the box, and for that it is really great. Thanks for posting.
As someone who does machining, but is not formally educated in the field, I like that this video demonstrates the "thinking outside the box" err cube approach.
Thanks for the show . I took in High School two years of Machine shop But went into the Automotive Mechanic part . This brought back memories . All good ones . Thanks
As I started to watch this (mind I still have not finished) I figured this is an old lathe and what a great way to learn by old school. Then he said check it with a Vernier Calliper,, then I knew. I have one myself and most machinist I speak to now do not know how to even use one. So this got me even before the 5 min mark, great way to learn!!
I couldn't turn a cake out of a pan. This looks like magic to me. I don't know why, but I watched it all the way through. I was mesmerized. Amazing to watch a machine that makes things round... make something square.
@@machiningmoments As an engineer, I worked alongside machinists making parts for defense. (Litton Industries). I watched them work. They could probably teach me to do some simple things. Still, I know it takes years to become fast and accurate. Above all, they had to work safely. The parts they made went into nuclear submarines and military aircraft. So I have too much respect for their skill than to say, yea, I could do it, too. No big deal. lol
As someone who has zero experience with lathes or machining in general, this video was fascinating as hell.
Thanks!
hell doesn't consider you fascinating either
Eh, maybe so. It certainly wouldn't consider your humor useful. That's for sure.
Not trolling. Just guiding you. Peace.
Sam, you really sacrifice the "who asked you" high ground when you're the first one to offer an unsolicited opinion.
Wow. I have no machining knowledge/experience. Vocalizing every single action (or reason for inaction) really makes a educational video better for a lay person. This was beautiful. I would've never thought a cube could be made in a lathe - now it's like "of course!" Thanks for an interesting 20m
Thank you for your kind words.
Just for future ref it's lathe pronounced "lay the". Not picking on you just know a guy that called it a lay and heard him get torn apart by a bunch of people. I am a machinist and I could care but some people sure do. Take care pal.
@@MrVolcom33, just fyi, he posted "Lay Person": a person without professional or specialized knowledge in a particular subject.
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Thank you for this. My father was taught to be a machinist in the Navy before WW II, his final test was a cube accurate to ± 0.001 using only a lathe. He had a trade that served him well until he passed in 1993. This gave me some insight.
Great memories :)
Freaking MR's.....thats what your fathers navy rating was.. machinery repairman
My father was a motor mac got out early from WW II as he was found no longer fit for sea duty after his ship was sunk. AM294
my father cleaned their ass all in the ship, starting with the machinist
Within 0.01 mm? That’s a massive tolerance
Just like I used to do it with my 4-jaw chuck before I retired. Perfectly logical, and a stepping-off point for making more complex solid figures. My lathe was built in 1943 four years before I was born, by Logan, a Kentucky shop that still makes parts for my lathe. My particular lathe was sent to Detroit for manufacturing parts for World War II, and then was used in Houston to refurbish electric motors on ships that came into harbor. Logan was able to give me the history of my particular lathe, which I still own, and which still can cut to one-thousandth of an inch.
Nothing like an old piece of equipment! I had a mill as an apprentice that was on loan to England during WW2. It had a nice plaque on it's side from the King thanking Canada for sending it. Thanks for sharing your story.
I would love to see your lathe, and if allowed to cut some threads on it
Hi Daniel (a year later, heh.) Sounds like you knew that machine pretty well. I am curious, how much wear did the ways have? I know that some of the machine tools used for the war effort were rode hard, 3 shifts a day making parts as big as they can swing. Regular maintenance would have helped, but how did your in particular fare? How much wear in the carriage nut and screw? Were the jaws badly bellmouthed?
I'd love to get into machining, but there are damn few places doing anything but CNC around here.
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16/6 23, Over 50 years ago a, then, local Co advertised for skilled Toolmaking machinists - 'only apply if you can cut a dovetail on a shaper.'😊
I’m not a machinist but have ran a lathe a few times in my day and found this very informative and interesting on how and why things were done in keeping reference points👍👍
I'm glad you found it useful, thank you for taking the time to leave a comment.
When people ask me what I do as a machinist. I answer, "I make round things square and square things round."
:) Funny how we do that! Thanks
I used to reply " I make chips" now I say " I make steel wool"
A wise man once told me "If anyone asks what you do for a living, tell them you press buttons and spend taxpayer money." Lol
Sorry if this idea ends up making your work obsolete and putting you out of a job, but have you tried leaving the round things round and the square things square, and just using them in the shape they start in? ;)
coryman125 Your not a machinist are you. Creativity and humor go hand in hand.
Sometimes, especially in repair and R&D work you have to with the material and machinery at hand..
I'm not a machinist but when I do machining I take good round things and turn them into scrap ;)
I've made a few pieces of scrap myself!
MEE TOO!
Now that's truly funny... and too often, really true! With many years of random experience but very little "formal training," I'm far too familiar with that concept!!
My favorite machinist used to say" I'm not very good, but I am fast" The joker in the shop used to check his production by inspecting the scrap bins!
I can do that, and I don't even own a lathe, just a lump hammer, I must be a natural.
You were the kid that forced the round thing into the square hole.
You've heard about me? ;)
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Nope, I fitted it, slipped right in like a piston!
Never seen a woman with a square hole before.
No thats a millwright
If you can find fault in his procedure/technique, then you do not need to watch this video. I learned the basics and that was good enough for me.
You didn't learn the right way to do anything by watching the video. But I enjoy seeing cuts on the lathe. He had plenty of those.
@@docalexander2853 Really? Define "right way"! There are many ways to do many things. What is being demonstrated here is 1 way, not the only way! I have used a lathe as a mill many times and vice-versa. Don't be so quick to judge just because you wouldn't do it this way!
Regardless of the right or wrong way, you didn't learn the basics by watching a video lol you have to actually do it to learn it. You don't even know how to change the rpm on a lathe by watching this
@@StillNoPickles69 I think the general assumption with this video is that you already know the basics and actually have a lathe to make this on.
Shortsircut1 I was referring to the guy who said he learned the basics from this lol
I loved my time as a toolmaker in the 80's. I was taught by a genius who was born in 1933. A truly great man. I've applied that knowledge since many many times, much more in fact than anything I was taught in school. Thank you Sam. R.I.P.
Great memories, I too was lucky to apprentice under a great man! Thanks for sharing.
Use to be a machinist and never thought of doing this but I found it Fascinating indeed.. I use to do many things one being making or finishing complete brake rotors from a raw casting, thousands of them.
I remember doing this in high school it was our final exam. A perfect 1 inch cube. Some students got away with being off a few thousands and were graded accordingly but some were held to a higher standard. I got to see mine thrown in the garbage twice for not being perfect. Off by one thousandth, lol. Thankful he pushed me to always give it my best effort.
I think we had the same teacher! Great memories.
You did this in HIGH SCHOOL?! Now i REALLY feel like an inept asshole. I'm 37 and before watching this i would have told you it's impossible to make a cube on a lathe😂silly me.
I should have gone to bed some time ago. I suspect I'm not the only one.
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BTW everyone, it's not a gauge block, its a demo of a concept. Relax.
19:03 for the 1.5 seconds where you see the finished product
Yeah, one thing I would change.
It’s all about the process
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Thankx machiningmoments. For those questioning the accuracy I think the concept was to show how the X plane can be used to create flat surfaces beyond simple facing with the versatility of a 4 jaw chuck on a machine that typically is thought of as a radially cutting machine. The block could have been indicated more precise of course but cool demonstration vid. Like turning with a boring head on a mill. When square is needed and looking at all the mills set up and a mill is not available this is thinking outside the blox ;- ) Thanks again.
Thank you
I know you been around machines to even do this even public. Congrats and ...thank you for reminding me of the old school beauty of a 4 jaw chuck with all the CNC now. It's amazing to think that even with the cad incorporated software on the actual cnc today withon screen tool paths and machine memorized tool data banks that the same results can be established manually. I remember a guy wanted an angle on a lathe and I used the x + z to 'draw' the angle by using a larger than needed radius tool and moved the x and z to every .005 thou move to 'generate the angle. :-) Kudos to you machiningmoments
ps. I'm still in school as I see it. Remember the day when I had to be best leading to competition. Tsk tsk! Teamwork and ideas together go sooo much more. If I had my way I'd like to attack a piece of leadloy and sink the full CNMG 422 insert at .025 per rev. Looking to grab My 1st machine for the barn now. Thx for reply and the info. lol ... No ...Thank you! ;- )
I appreciate the support!
Anytime. Well done
Wow! Centering that stock really impressed me.
I mean, I'm no turner myself but the smooth confidence and ease with which you just did that, I found quite amazing.
I'm sure I'd have been there all day going back and forth.
I'm also quite sure that not many people out there realise just how much skill it takes to do that.
But to do it with such nonchalance?
Outstanding!
Sir!
You are a master!.
Thank you, but I'm just a guy who has done this for a long time. There are a lot of great machinists on this board. I appreciate your note.
machiningmoments I thought this video great, before I started watching I tried to figure out how to you were going to do it, but I couldn't. Great video thanks for sharing 👍
Thank you
I was a machinist before I got into computer networking. I really miss making useful parts. Electronics is fine, but creating intricate parts from stock metal is real skill.
thank you I have made things that will be around long after I am gone
Someone who gets it! I was a carpenter before I broke my back forcing me into an IT job. Now I work as a software engineer and any time I discuss my former life, none of my co-workers get it at all. I miss truly making things.
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Those benchtop do alls don't take a lot of space. If you need a project to make with it .... there is always art.
I framed houses for a while ( 5 years ). Now I'm a software engineer, and I miss the satisfaction of looking at something at the end of the day, and thinking that "I made that". I do garage machining now to satisfy that emptiness. On a side note, software pays a bit better than framing. I too had a back injury that made me rethink my career choices. I miss that satisfaction, I don't miss working in the rain, or walking on 2x4 walls, or packing lumber, or stepping on nails, splinters, ring shanks, pushy general contractors, not getting paid... the list is long. I guess part of the romance of a trade is the adversity of achieving something worthwhile.
That was so cool! I'm not a metal worker, but a woodworker. I always say, I make the wood do what it doesn't want to do. That's what you're doing here. But to take a piece of round bar stock, put it into a chuck spinning in a circle and have it come out square is just magical! Thanks. very entertaining.
Thank You
Great video, from start to finish. I was initially expecting a straightforward machining video (you know the type) but this went into so much more detail, and was very much appreciated by myself. Gotta love that ending, too, "there it is" cut!
Hi Curtis, thanks for your kind words...I think I was a bit quick with the ending :/
Interesting concept. Thanks for the lesson.
Glad to
Thanks for an interesting video showing the principle of machining a cube. It was ideal for somebody like me who spent a few weeks at a workshop practice training course over 50 years ago making the obligatory scribing block.
My pleasure, thank you for the note!
Good video!! If you don't have something good to say, keep it to your fucking self......
@@jameszepnick9206 I know I'm late, but there something on your mind man?
Artistry.
If humans haven't destroyed each other in a couple of centuries, I reckon this lathe instruction will be shown in archaeology classes. I recently had to remove 3 musket guns the old man has had since I was a kid. Mum was scared of the bayonets on them. Dad had them mounted on a wooden gun rack I made him in woodworking class in 1971. On the back, it shows I got 9 1/2 out of 10. Looking at it now, I could have done a bit more sanding. I was entranced at this video. Memories of wood lathing at school.
Thanks! Good memories.
This video took me back to my days at Western Technical and Commercial School in Toronto, Ontario. Starting in grade 9 in 1967 we took Machine Shop for 4 years. We started off making a rock hammer. Later we made a clamp. The education that school gave me in a wide variety of shops including electricity, drafting etc. has provided me with a good basic understanding of a lot of things mechanical. I was also fortunate to have a father and later a father-in-law that both worked with their hands. They both taught me about all sorts of things that further advanced my technical training and skill development. I can still remember a question on my grade 9 Machine Shop test and later the final exam. Give three uses for knurling? I'll leave it up to the RUclips viewers to provide the answers. My father in law taught me not force it; don't break it. My father taught me to whistle while I work. Today, I whistle while I work and hopefully don't break anything. The education that WTCS provided us was a good one. Thank you Mr. Depietro, Head of the Machine Shop Department, for taking the time to teach us somethings about working with metal lathes. I for one appreciated your efforts. I have never forgot the three uses of knurling ever since.
Great memories, I too had a great shop teacher. We were friends until he died. I'm sure in high school he thought I would never amount to anything...but he didn't give up. Great guy. I also come from a line of tradespeople and my children are in the trades and very successful. BTW I grew up down the road from you. Thanks for sharing your memories. Oh yeah, grip, appearance, and press fit. ;)
@@machiningmoments I was taught that knurling also increased outside diameter. When you say down the road from me, where was that?
Yes it does, increase the diameter. If you are doing that for a press fit use a straight knurl.
I grew up in the Sarnia area.
My teacher was amazed when I machined a 1" cube, no-one in the class thought I could do it. A whole afternoon of machining I had copper, brass, steel and aluminium cubes. I was taught to use the lathe by a very enthusiastic amateur who made his own race car parts. It is so good to see machining done the good old way, none of this CNC malarkey and certainly no 3D printing :)
Sounds like you had some good training.
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Some people might thing the lesson is rudimentary but for people like myself it's advancing my knowledge from the almost zero point and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain it all as many others wont bother.
Thank You Jimmy.
i'm a cnc operator. it would never have occured to me you can actually make a cube on a conventional lathe, we just use a mill and let the computer have fun with it. very nice job there! also i can finally see the benefit of a four independent jaw chuck. thats craftmanship😀
Thank you for your kind words. Four jaw chucks are very useful.
Huh, this is the first time I've seen someone turn a cube on a lathe. Never knew that was even possible, but now it makes perfect sense.
A lathe can make lots of neat things.
Learned something new at every shop i worked at.
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My grandfather was a machinist, later roundhouse foreman for the Santa Fe railroad shops in Los Angeles from 1898-1951. As a young kid, I remember him having the complete alphabet on a shelf in his office that he had machined on the shop lathes from scrap steel. Myself best I have ever done is a couple doorknobs' under his supervision. Great video.
Great memory, thanks for sharing.
I just got my dads South Bend lathe that he got from his great uncle in 1972. I can’t wait to learn how to use it!! I’m trying to take in as much info as I can. Thank you very much.
What a great memory for you. You will have lots of fun with it. BTW, that is a good lathe.
Everyone's commenting on how it's not perfect....I don't see many tutorials that are more than "I'm gonna show you what to, but you figure out how to do it better." The whole point of teaching isn't to show them exactly how to make it flawlessly, but to give them direction and then let them figure it out. That's how people learn.
This is the problem with a lot of people coming into machining. They want to be told exactly how to do it and not have to think about it. All I can do is show a guy a method that gets the job done, they need to use sense to improve it or get it done better.
Kyo Grey I understand the idea that nobody’s perfect but this video didn’t need to be 20 minutes and it didn’t need half the narration. If you’re not smart it’s bad form to assume your audience is stupid.
He doesn't need to be perfect to teach you how to do something, nor does he need to do it perfectly. Also, if you don't like the length of the video, watch it at 1.5x or 2x speed.
You clearly haven't watched AvE's channel.
ive been a machinist for a decade now and this shit is sloppy as fuck.
I am by no means blessed with machining skills. Nor will I ever acquire them. But this was fascinating to watch & I thank you for doing it!
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Yes indeed, a very neat process which can be as accurate as U want it for intents and purposes.
Thanks for showing and sharing.
Much appreciated.
ATB
aRM
Glad to, nice to hear from you again.
For the person just starting out machining on a lathe. This is good practice. One of my first practice/ play projects was an aluminum cube in a cube. Have it laying on a shelf along with a ball peen hammer of brass with aluminum handel. Also made a 1.5 x 1.5 dice. The dice gave layout and mill experience. Making things is how you learn and gain confidence. Making things to precise dimension is where you learn of patience.
Machining can be a testament to patience!
As a fellow machinist, one thing I love watching is slow motion videos of chips breaking. I've made a few slow-mo videos and they are always satisfying!
I saw a young person shooting a slow motion video of a cutting process, it was super cool. It has my wheels turning in my head. Thanks for your note.
way cool. For those who care, it's a simple task to move over to a surface grinder and make it perfect. This tutorial is an example of how to use a lath for milling projects when all you have is a lathe. precision is a mindset. learn to use the tools you have.
What sort of surface grinder ? Using an abrasive to flatten a surface is extremely difficult - the edges that scrape the abrasive always get slightly more abraded than the middle. I don't think an abrader could improve on the exact flatness produced by a lathe. The only way to perfect the cube would be to re-lathe it to finer tolerances.
Love the logic of this. I couldn't imagine how a cube could come out of a lathe.
It helps to see it, thanks for watching.
Awesome video never dreamed this could be done, where there's a will there's a way.
No will doesn't do much for you, where there's some thinking there's a way! :-))
I could watch and listen to this all day. Been in and around machine shops much of my career and still love the smell of machine oil and the beauty of hand made parts. Great vid- many thanks.
It is a special place. Thank you for watching and posting.
I loved it! This video took me back 40 years to engineering school. All us green would-be engineers had to work through a wide range of machining/construction classes to make sure we didn't go off designing things that couldn't be manufactured. Thanks for taking me back to some great memories.
It was my pleasure. I am very fortunate to work with future engineers. I like having the ability to show them processes and help them understand designs and fits. Great group of people.
Making a 0.1 cut on my little Atlas lathe would likely flip my entire house over.
:) Yes lots of small cuts. I've stalled small lathes out with a heavy cut.
if you're in a small job shop or a home shop, and you don't have an available mill, you gotta do what you gotta do.
Hi Brad, likely the only place I would do this is in a hobby shop with limited equipment. Thanks for posting.
You shouldn't have a small job shop without a lathe AND a mill. Saw is good too.
Before I bought my mill, I did this sort of thing pretty much constantly in my lathe.
Interesting some of the pros get their panties in a wad watching this and us rookies find it fascinating and informative.
I'm glad you found it useful. Thanks
If they already know how to do it, then theyre not watching to see how its done. Theyre watching so they can point out mistakes and make themselves feel good.
I already know how to turn a cube on a lathe. But I don't pretend to think I know everything, and I want to see this method, and how it is different from how I do it. I've learned a lot from watching others processes, and this is no different. I'm no pro, but there are things that I would do differently. In the context of an instructional video, this shows what it needs to show, conceptually how it's done. Is this way the perfect way to do it? No. Is it a step toward the perfect way, very much so.
@@machiningmoments Great tutorial for us beginners. Only question I have is (as an interested observer) Can you do this on a three jaw chuck?
Lol that's true for so many jobs, can't remember how many times I've messed up a tiny non consequential thing and been terrified the customer will consider me an idiot, meanwhile the customer is just mindblown that my product is functional whatsoever.
nice tutorial. i was working machine shop for 5 years out of school. At 2 1/2 years in my little firm went into another shop which primarily dealt with steel sheet fabrication......but there was one man and a machine shop there ( with myself, my original boss, he's machines and a couple of workmates soon to be added of course!) and what the man did with the same machines I had been working on for 2 1/2 years was incredible. The work on he's bench was like science fiction to me. For the first 2 weeks we were moving in I used to stop by his bench before start time to view the astounding metal shapes he had made before the day started.....and he would knock he's spectacles down and glower at my impertinence. i would say "I won't touch anything i just want to look"
I knew his skills surpassed my previous employer Ted (now foreman for a year before retirement at this new site) who had a similar amount of time in the trade to this new superman I had encountered. My former boss had so far trained me up and I considered him to be an impressive machinist - and he was.
After viewing wonderman's work again one morning I said to Ted "I know that guy is in the same game as us, he uses the same machines but.....if there is anyone here who could make a round peg fit in a square hole and leave no gaps it's Vic"
Ted smiled (possibly put a hand on my shoulder) and said "thats a good analogy eddie. Vic is what is called a Tool Maker and he is the very top of what our profession can be.....and sadly you may never meet he's like again"
He then explained to me how CNC machines were killing the training of such engineers as, rather than a skilled machinist using several machines to make an intricate item from metal, a programmer just had to enter a program into a machine that would do the whole thing.
I became friends with Vic over the next 2 1/2 years of my career, though not outside of work socially.
At work he used to drop he's spectacles occasionally and look at what I was doing. Every now and then he would pop up beside me with a job and ask "how would you do this ed" and I'd work out and tell me my job MO to him. He was particularly interested in how I trued up by eye using the chuck key and would then machine straight away (even when I had already turned/bored part of the piece) and once pointed to a piece of round that he'd just nipped up in a 3 jaw chuck and went "true that up for me ed", which I did, took me 10 seconds.
Instead of machining it he got out a dial caliper to check it and upon ascertaining a result he looked up at me over he's spectacles, maybe with a slight glare, and firmly stated to the whole shop "I don't believe it, he's within 1/2 a thou by eye"
He did once tell me that if he could choose an apprentice it would be me. That I understood the machines and the tolerances and had a good feel. Made me proud that did. I left that firm to try another, Kangol power tools. I met the dreaded CNC there and it was a soul destroyer of a thing.
I felt my skills would desert me over the passage of time there as I became another boiler suited hulk lent against the side of one of these machines with nothing to do as it ripped through metal. I went back to the previous firm for a while but left after 6 months for personal reasons and never went back into machining.
The mental process I honed during my time in the field has probably saved me thousands of pounds over the years. I fix shit when I can. I find ingenius ways of getting a good result without the right machines and tools by putting bits together to make a machine or even making the right tool to do the job. I do miss the lathes, the mills and the smell of the suds still though.
ps, can't believe I just wrote my autobiography in engineering.....a bit short maybe?
Great memory! Thank you for sharing. I appreciate your post and watching.
Now that is a great video. If i am making sometming from round stock i could put a flat on one or more sides whatever is needed. Thanks, Norman
Thanks Norman
I did this in metal shop when I was in high school. Also made a lot of pipes too. Lol🌿
Toolman329 salty
Toolman329 go away Bible thumper
what kind of pipes??
I liked it .. then I read some of the Perfektionspolizei comments .. and I still liked it .. then I read some of the appreciative comments .. and I liked it even more.. ty for posting! : )
Thank you for your comment.
And why are you even mentioning them? That's nothing but passive aggressive slander and is still the tool of the loser.
I was impressed, I admit it. I learned turning and milling as a borstal boy in Wetherby, and although I never followed it up after my release the satisfaction of a well-turned piece remains with me, as well as the noise and smell of the shop...
Working in a machine shop is very fulfilling for me. Thanks for watching and posting. Cheers from Canada.
Many years ago, I taught a computer controls class in which one problem was to machine a 1-inch cube on a 3-axis mill. Almost all thought it would be an easy lab, until they tried to do it. ^_^.
I really like it when someone clearly explains how to do something that seems impossible at the start. Also, I’ve gained a new appreciation for a 4-jaw chuck.
Great video! Thanks.
Its not that easy.
I was worried a cube would be triangular. Thanks for the confirmation there.
I had no idea that was even possible. Awesome video, thanks for sharing.
I'm glad you liked it thanks for watching.
Next challenge: making a fully functional Rubik's cube entirely on a lathe.
Just chucking up the second face by eye isn't going to be very parallel. You need to use stops or parallels before you face the second side to get it parallel to the first.
Thank you, when I heard "Should be parallel to each other", I clicked stop and scrolled down to find your comment, as I knew it would be here. Sadly, this is not a very thorough, or should I say, accurate, outline of working on a lathe for anyone who wouldn't already know how to do this.
Checked here for that very comment. Face 1 however you like. Face 2 opposite face 1 with parallels to the chuck.
@@will5948 Agreed, and that's only after first indicating the face of the chuck to check for runout.
@@markcayton6712 My thoughts entirely...should have clocked the chuck face...That battered old Coley....looks like its done its time ? (Favourite general Iron though !).
On a good Triumph....you should be looking at turning to dead...everytime...if needed ? Most now quote Limits & Fits as Bigga & Littla Hammer ?
Exactly @@JS-el3zm . Its one thing to comment on parallel or something, quite another to call someone's video showing basic operations worthless. Of course, those doing this often have no video's of their own to offer in place of their green with envy bs.
I've been a machinist for 40 years and I would not have believed it if I had not seen it .enjoyed watching , Thanks
Thank you
I did my apprenticeship at Colchester lathe company and worked there for 14 years, brought back a few memories. Thanks for sharing.
I wish my company had access to the Colchester company, we have a tough time sourcing parts for our lathes.
They no longer manufacture in Colchester, moved to Yorkshire in 1997. Their new lathes are all made in China or Eastern Europe.
Yes, that's my experience also. We have been able to find a couple of Colchesters in England we have parted out. Too bad they are really good lathes.
This may help you, here in the UK, not far from me.www.colchesterspares.com/
My father was a machinist. Thank you for giving me some insight into what he might have done.
So was my father and grandfather. Great memories.
When's the last time you saw a person making negative comments post their own video to show their way? That's right: never.
The Devil In The Circuit
I was proper tempted to film myself typing this!
The weak minded insulters couldn't even make a decent ashtray let along a precise object.
@@superchuck3259 They are not weak, just full of hate towards everything. :-)
in 2006 you could post video responses to other people's videos. RUclips took that option away.
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For non-machinist , it would have been a nice touch at the end to show you measuring the block showing that it it is (with in tolerances) a square. Maybe my anal trait is talking. Absent that in this video, I found this AMAZING and I have watched a number of "Lathe" videos. No matter how much one knows, there is always something simple to learn. Best wishes.
Hi Rick, thanks for your comment as I replied to Paul below the process was my focus. In fairness to the comments the block likely was not square...I don't know, I didn't check it as I was only demonstrating the process. I would have put more care if it was functional. No matter how well I feel I think these videos out someone on this board has a good suggestion to make it better. There are some very talented people here and I feel the input is helpful for us all.
You are right, you can make super cool things on a lathe.
I noticed that you did measure it after the second face was being cut. I assume if that was done after every necessary step it would end up square to desired tolerances. Cheers.
rick dees ... ‘within’ not ‘ with in’. Used in a sentence, “Your English grammar is within tolerance standards for a child still in elementary school.” I’m not sure that a sentence can be made with your ‘with in’.
@@3daypriest ...seriously?
@@machiningmoments I am a time served Turner / Toolmaker...and I thought it was excellent ! really good to see the dexterity of a lathe being portrayed, and the skills needed to make use of it ! To the million places behind the decimal place crowd...would you really be doing this in a lathe if you wanted that sort of accuracy ?
Rough it out yes...finish elsewhere...if needed ?
I have been a lathe turner for ten years and I would never have thought this would be possible, but it's so simple! I actually remember asking my shop teacher if you could turn squares on a lathe and he said it was impossible :D
In fairness to your shop teacher most people only think about turning cylindrical parts on a lathe.
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My one and only metalworking class had us, in one term, take an ugly chunk of steel and make as perfect a cube as we could make. Some of those finished items started out as 3" x 3" x 2.5" chunks, ended up as 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/2" and they still weren't cubes. This video shows how knowing what your tool can do can make things a lot easier. Thank you for doing this one.
My pleasure
Good job the Material is "Leadloy" for demo purposes.
I've seen grown men reduced to tears setting a 4 jaw chuck!!
Saw the title and just assumed it was this old tony.
Amazing! Now what about doing a tetrahedron or dodecahedron... 😃
Always found turning very therapeutic. As an Apprentice Turner I had to make a cube in a cube in a cube. Really peeved I couldn't keep it as they mounted it in some gimbles and gave it as an award to some School girl who was doing a one day course.
It is fun, sorry to hear about your cube :(
Very pleasant and clear teaching manner, easy to watch and understand. I've learnt a lot!
Thank you Raz, I appreciate your kind words.
This is a good example of "How do I make a square part for my mill when the mill is down waiting for a part?". You just use your lathe.
I'm about to do the reverse: I need to make a round part for my lathe to get it running again. Guess I just use my mill.
I've had to do that also. A rotary table is helpful.
OK, you mastered the square.
If you really want to impress me, make a triangle😉
That would be something!
I suppose you mean a tetrahedron?
Humanity: can you please give us the lathe?
jacques vaucanson: to make perfect cylinders for rolling silk?
Humanity: yeeeeeeess
jacques vaucanson: okay i dont see why not!
Humanity: * makes cube * * dabs * ITS MINECRAFT TIME
This made my day
Thanks I’m happy now
Jacques Vaucanson begs to differ
@@Vaasref sorry just realized that I made a stupid mistake
How did a fellow 9 year old get here 🤔🤔🤔
I was a trained fitter& machist ..Toolmaker my apprentice was for five years. Was extremely good training . This training gave me a very good basis for many very interesting employment.
It is an amazing job Graeme.
Excellent demo of how to use a machine to accomplish something that is not usually it's purpose. The accuracy of the finished article or the knowledge that it could be more easily produced by other means, is not the main concern here, it is the proof of concept.
Thank you
Very interesting! But I can't cope with this measurement "thou" - sure I know its 1000th of an inch - but using metric is soooo much easier in general and way less risk of miscalculation!
I agree, but in North America we almost always work in the inch system.
We're Americans. And gotta toss up a middle finger to everyone else. But I wish we
Wrong. Both are accurate depends entirely what are you making.
Numbers don’t lie....English or metric!
@@MuzikHead English or metric? You mean Imperial or metric, right?
Very clever... but CLICK ON LIKE if you felt like putting on your safety eye wear the moment the chuck started spinning with the work piece placed in sideways.
I also wanted to YELL, first rule of Lathe use is NEVER LEAVE A CHUCK KEY IN THE CHUCK REGARDLESS OF FOR HOW LONG :), otherwise it was cool
I clicked dislike, because you begged for likes.
@@DIYToPen I hate you..
10:57 I can’t wrap my brain around how the heck you could do this in a 3 jaw chuck.
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machiningmoments OIC. I get it but that was a scary setup.
I agree!
I, for one, found that a fascinating video. It never occurred to me that you could make a square object with a lathe. Thank you for teaching me something new today!
My pleasure. Thank you for watching and leaving a message.
I really liked the way you explained each step. It made it much easier to understand what you were doing. Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
He’s not making it for use like a set of parallel spacers. Relax people.
can you pls also post a video of "using a lathe to make a leather shoe"
Great video. Just a suggestion: spend a bit more time showing the final product. Thanks.
Yes, I've heard that. If I redo this video I will definitely spend more time on the final product.
Great tutorial. I am not a machinist but have done this process in high school way back in 1962. Good thing to let people know why things cost what they do cost.
Thanks John, most would argue this process is unnecessarily expensive. Buying the square stock would have made more sense.
It is great to see that some people have not forgotten how to make items out of other items that are useful. Handmade items are becoming rarer by the day.
Thanks for posting this brilliant video. I am a professional woodworker(carpenter) in the UK. I never signed up for woodwork at school but was to be found in the metalwork shop. We could have done with a bit of your personal supervision in our classes ; how no lad ever lost a finger or a hand or eyesight or worse was pure grace of God ! We had acid baths ( for the cleaning of our copper and brass work) . I remember we had this milling machine that rocked back and forth , it was all too easy to overturn the feed wheel - the next thing you knew the work piece and vice were on the floor!
Looking back , maybe the reason I switched from metal to wood in later life had to do with a pschycological dread of disfigurement :)
Anyway keep up the good work Mr machining moments
Hi Peter, I have know a couple of people who lost fingers to a table saw. Thanks for sharing your memories and watching. Cheers from Canada.
I thought, "Impossibru!" Amazing to see!
Okay RUclips, I clicked it. Not STOP effing recommending it!!!
Me too. Stupid youtube.
Just hit “not interested” in the 3 dots
if you click something like this your recommends are ruined forever
I'm quite lucky that my RUclips account enables me to push the not interested icon
Dude... incognito window. Learn how to use it :D
This is that trick that shows you can make anything in a lathe. But you wouldn't want to.
I know people that only have a lathe. Well, maybe a file and sandpaper, but c'mon!
@@Artemetra Don't be too quick on that one. As an green horn apprentice T&D maker back in '76 I had to take a piece of crs saw cut on all 6 sides and hand file a precision cube out of it. My boss/instructor back then was an older German dude right from the old country with a heavy German accent, we called Hard Core Harry who accepted nothing less than perfection. He used to come by, pick up a part off your cart or machine, look at it and say things like. It's a good thing you don't have to make a living at this or you would STARVE TO DEATH and then walk away leaving you to figure out just what the hell you were doing wrong. He forced lazy ass kids to actually use their brain, me included, we all hated/feared him. As I got older and more experienced I came to understand that he was a brilliant T&D maker. His "in your face" drill Sargent style teaching techniques were pretty barbaric by today's standards but every single apprentice that survived hard core Harry were top notch T&D makers and machine builders! I learned more from that man then any other person in my life to date. Today's snowflakes would be running for their safe spaces with their blankey if faced by him!
I'm Neither a machinist nor an engineer but am often told that I think like one. Probably why this was fascinating to watch. Thanks for the lesson. ;~)
Thanks for watching and the post!
As a US Navy MM, the Machine Shop MRs were my best friends. It always amazed me how they were able to make pump shafts with square or hex keys on the ends using a lathe.
A good machinist is fun to watch.
Now let's see you make a lathe on a cube.
That would be a challenge!
HUH? wtf did i just watch?1!!?
Never mind you can throw it at your approaching Thoron space cruisers to confuse them - and destroy your $500 monitor.
Was teached to use a Lathe at school ( never made a cube though ) 34 years ago. Brings back memories thanks :-)
:) it was my favorite class in high school. Thanks for posting.
I have only just starting out. I got myself a ok machine she is a oldy. Belt run with gears
I never knew you could do that. Thankyou for taking the the time to show us. I have now subscribed. Looking forward to learning more from you.
Kind regards Andy
Thanks Andy, welcome to the wonderful world of machining.
I started in high school machine shop then went to repair machinist right out of high school and loved doing it. I repaired bearing surfaces which is somewhat boring but working on lathes, milling machines was great.
It's a great career.
The strength and precision of the lathe impresses me. The math is impressive too. The finished cube is 1 cubic inch. The beginning stock is 3.1416 in³. Therefore the waste is 2.1416 cu in, or 68.169% of the original stock.
If I tried to machine this I would hit at least 100% waste! ... Plus the tools and equipment damage.
Tons of respect to this machinist!
Thank you
When I was in the shop as an apprentice (30 odd years ago) I would use the lathe to remove material off square stock as it was quicker than doing it by hand. We only had 2 mills and 2 shapers but loads of lathes. Yeah its not the most accurate, but if I wanted accuracy there was always the surface grinder. This video gets you thinking outside the box, and for that it is really great. Thanks for posting.
Thanks you for watching and posting.
As someone who does machining, but is not formally educated in the field, I like that this video demonstrates the "thinking outside the box" err cube approach.
:) thank you
Thanks for the show . I took in High School two years of Machine shop But went into the Automotive Mechanic part . This brought back memories . All good ones . Thanks
Got to love great memories, thanks for posting.
This video made me really happy. I love cubes and I love metals.
Best part starts: 19:02
I'm glad you liked it. Thank you for watching.
that's cool, studying as an engineer, it's great always seeing how machinist makes the part! Ty for making this video!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
We had to do the same at school 50 years ago! Nice and strange to see someone still see the value of doing it. :-))
I miss the old days!
As I started to watch this (mind I still have not finished) I figured this is an old lathe and what a great way to learn by old school. Then he said check it with a Vernier Calliper,, then I knew. I have one myself and most machinist I speak to now do not know how to even use one. So this got me even before the 5 min mark, great way to learn!!
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching.
It fascinates me to watch someone with skills like that. Well done sir!
Thank you, glad you watched and posted.
I couldn't turn a cake out of a pan. This looks like magic to me.
I don't know why, but I watched it all the way through. I was mesmerized. Amazing to watch a machine that makes things round... make something square.
All it takes is some practice.
@@machiningmoments As an engineer, I worked alongside machinists making parts for defense. (Litton Industries). I watched them work. They could probably teach me to do some simple things. Still, I know it takes years to become fast and accurate. Above all, they had to work safely. The parts they made went into nuclear submarines and military aircraft. So I have too much respect for their skill than to say, yea, I could do it, too. No big deal. lol
Already knew how to cut a cube buy a lathe machine but many new things I have learnt from your video, thank you so much.
Thanks for watching and posting!