@@hammerofdavey You're right, you would have seen the planes shadow appear if he was really close, but still he looks to be getting pretty close descending quickly.
@@garretthodges9918 exactly. The ground was still pretty far away. Sometimes it's closer than you think but in my experience the ground is much farther than I planned for. This exercise never gets old an if you want to land safe and sound everytime then I suggest you get a firm grasp of this maneuver.
Now imagine flying in the clouds after going from VMC to IMC, without any orientation and coming out of 'em a few thousand feet off the ground in a spin like that. Yikes. It makes sense why that has taken lives in the past. Educate and Aviate!
@@dannenp3110 Was about to say this. I found wing over stalls more freaky for the first time than spins. But yeah spins are a ton of fun when you are expecting them and are in a aircraft that can spin safely.
@@justmerc1642 Best feeling in the world when you cut the grass off the ground and bump your tail wheel into the roof of some building, 10 cm away from becoming a fireball
In USAF pilot training we had to climb to 20,000 feet before we practiced spin recovery in the T-37. It took about 5,000 feet to recover. If the student missed the first recovery, the IP generally took control.
Wow, that sounds intense! Climbing to 20,000 feet for spin recovery in the T-37 must have been quite an experience. Quick question: did you ever have to take control during spin recovery in training?
@@Neeko-fz1uk I was a student. On one of my first recoverys I neglected to neutralize the rudder. We immediately snapped into a spin in the opposite direction. The IP took over and recovered. He was a great instructor. I always felt comfortable when flying with him. On the first day of the T-37 flight line a student and IP from a more advanced class were killed without an attempt to eject. The theory was that it was a low overcast day, the student/IP misread the altimeter and started the spin at 10,000 feet, a recovery was missed and the second attempt they were too low to succeed.
Theres a private airstrip near my house and yes the first time I saw a stall spin I thought i was witnessing a plane crash haha lol. Saw him do it many times after that
I was reading about these sorts of spins in the era of early aviation, and it never really clicked to me just how terrifying they must have been both from inside and as an observer. Especially back when they were not well understood and nobody knew how to get out of a spin once you were in one. After watching this video I think I understand a bit better now
Today I experienced a stall for the first time as a student, performed by my instructor of course. It's not fun at all, what a sensation! It makes you take this situation very seriously. My face immediately became a Harold meme.
@@the_cutter8485 fsfs. After you learn to do them with you at the controls, they are no longer scary and are fun, then with repetition are quite benign. That said I remember the first time I tried to level ailerons on a power on staff before pushing the nose down and nearly spun us. Only did that *once*. Hard lesson, but I'll never forget it. It's been a year since your comment, I'm sure you've earned your PPL by now. :)
Great camera work! Interesting to see a spin from another plane's perspective. Good way to show a standard spin. After 3rd turn the spin seems to be stabilized. Nice recovery.
Great video! I got to fly that exact tail number this summer and it was a blast!! Spins were cool, but my favorite was an inverted loop. That was intense
Good thing about the Extra, you can spin it 20 times holding in pro spin inputs then instant you release and add some negetive rudder it recovers in like 1/2 rotation. everytime, if you do nothing it recovers by itself
Pretty sure it was just the camera angle, company like that is sure to follow the minimum recovery altitude. Makes me wonder how high up they were when the spin was initiated.
After bumbling into an spin from an accelerated stall while learning to fly in a Cessna 150 I had my instructor teach me how to get out of them. That gave me a lot of confidence and control, especially when I went on to gliders, which thermal fairly close to a stall/spin condition. A little practice with a good CFI can also avoid getting into the trap of skidding (and likely spinning at an unrecoverable altitude) on a poorly overshot base to final turn. They also are fun to learn!
@@syntexx384 Power Idle (remove downforce on tail), Ailerons neutral (clean wings, even and minimal drag), Rudder opposite spin direction (stop rotation), elevator forward (to break stall).
Hello! I was wondering if it could be possible to use this video in one of my videos. I'm making a video regarding this topic, and your video will be perfect for explaining this in detail. Thanks very much in advance!! Of course you will get the credits and links to your channel
This has probably been mentioned but watch the rudder (control on the verticle stabilizer on the tail). Just at the start of the spin the rudder goes hard left and stay that way as far as you can see. That is a big part of what is holding the spin. All he does after the dozen or so turns, i didnt count, is release the rudder back to the middle and let a little pressure off the yoke and probably something with the throttle but im a glider spinner so i dont have one of those. They were probably alot further above the trees than it looks as well. Id wage at least 500 ft but more likely above 1000
I haven’t done my UPRT course yet but holy shit, I bet the recovery is initiated much sooner than in this clip. That was very close to the ground... The PIC has got some 00 of steel.
loved stalling in my 150, [5000'] trim nose up, reduced rpm pitch up, incipient stall, horn goes, nose drops kick in full rudder, (either) count the turns, centralise rudder hands off yolk, she pitches up beautifully, apply power resume strait and level, thanks to Brian CFI at Seawing Flying club Southend, taught me so much.
Reminds me of my AFI test flight with the legend that was Z.I..from Redhill. He said “ talk through the spin and hold till I tell you to recover.”........ this over the Downs under the London TMA! Seemed an age before he let me..... nice bloke though...
A understanding of this basic maneuver is paramount to any aspiring pilot for any type of flying, does that make this any less stress inducing to watch this and to think I have to preform this maneuver eventually; no , no it doesn't. But I have a dream. and it will be reality.
We have to do spins in PPL training, and it's a flight test item for CPL training in Canada. I absolutely hate doing it.. But worth to know how to recover.
To my amateur knowledge to recover from this all you have to do is apply rudder to the opposite side of the spin, push the nose down and increase the throttle and you're out.
P-A-R-E Power to idle, Ailerons to neutral, Rudder opposite the spin, Elevator (down) to break the stall (ailerons being important to go neutral, because they could be increasing angle of attack, which makes the stall worse)
Hello there, i would like to use this video for my own (of course my first) youtube video. if it is in order for you, please reply to this comment. Thank you!!
As a CFI, reason one why would-be renters fail their checkout? My need to stop the pilot from killing us, via almost putting us in cross controlled stall at under 500 feet AGL, whilst "correcting" for their overshot base to final turn.
the ground almost stopped the spin
Same thought😂
lol
@@hammerofdavey You're right, you would have seen the planes shadow appear if he was really close, but still he looks to be getting pretty close descending quickly.
@@hammerofdavey Is it just the angle that makes it look pretty low?
AHAHAHAHAHA
Pilot: okay this is how you recover
Student : umm sir we still free falling..
Pilot: yeah wait imma get that highscore near Miss with this one
@Carson Anna ratio
@Carson Anna Like when your mom told your dad she was pregnant
@Carson Anna ?
@Carson Anna probably an iphone user
@Carson Anna yeap, exactly what your dad told me about you when you talk on the internet. Consider shut the fuck up.
I think he waited the very last moment to recover from the stall spin so they could get a great shot
They absolutely did
#lastminute ;)
And he was trying to scare the crap out of the passenger in rear seat, probably laughing all the way down.
Not the very last moment, you have to give yourself a little cushion
@@garretthodges9918 exactly. The ground was still pretty far away. Sometimes it's closer than you think but in my experience the ground is much farther than I planned for. This exercise never gets old an if you want to land safe and sound everytime then I suggest you get a firm grasp of this maneuver.
That looks scary as hell
Now imagine flying in the clouds after going from VMC to IMC, without any orientation and coming out of 'em a few thousand feet off the ground in a spin like that. Yikes. It makes sense why that has taken lives in the past. Educate and Aviate!
After your first one it's really not freaky at all. They're actually pretty fun.
*Fun as hell
@@dannenp3110 Was about to say this. I found wing over stalls more freaky for the first time than spins. But yeah spins are a ton of fun when you are expecting them and are in a aircraft that can spin safely.
@Qwerty I'm working on my pilot license. And no I'm not a kid. 🤣. I've also done airobatics in gliders so yeah :P
I can relate. I stalled my Miata while drifting in an empty parking lot one time....
Damn 😂😂😂
Nice
I'm sure you can also relate to stolen comments
STALLED ON GROUND???
You know the worst thing about owning a Miata?
Telling your parents you're gay.
FO: "Captain we're above the glideslope."
Captain: "No problem!"
lol
this made me laugh way too much. lol
182 Passengers: "AAAIIIIEEEE!!!!!
Lol but a sideslip can help drop your altitude quickly if you are above glideslope on final
"That guy was pretty good at War Thunder."
- Local Neighbours.
A true war thunder player would've pulled up at 100 m for fear of being sucked into the ground
@@justmerc1642 Best feeling in the world when you cut the grass off the ground and bump your tail wheel into the roof of some building, 10 cm away from becoming a fireball
@@alexandru.g8746 Dang, I wish I knew that feeling
This guy knew exactly what he was doing. Just intentionally held it in the spin until his recovery was initiated,
No shit ! Thanks Mr Wright brother 😂
It also helps that plane has like 400 HP
@@mango7862 Thanks for your constructive and helpful response.
@@mango7862 is
@@mango7862 another smart arse keyboard warrior. Sit on your hands next time you dickhead.
That’s an impressive amount of height loss.....
you do not sound cool at all. they call it altitude ;)
Most pratical way to descent for landing
@@karabinjr That’s an impressive amount of altitude loss...
@@karabinjr You sound less cool than him
@@karabinjr look at your fuckin face dude
In USAF pilot training we had to climb to 20,000 feet before we practiced spin recovery in the T-37. It took about 5,000 feet to recover. If the student missed the first recovery, the IP generally took control.
Neat
Well on Cessna We went to 4500 feet, and it was taking about 1000-1500 to recover... 🤔
Wow, that sounds intense! Climbing to 20,000 feet for spin recovery in the T-37 must have been quite an experience. Quick question: did you ever have to take control during spin recovery in training?
@@Neeko-fz1uk I was a student. On one of my first recoverys I neglected to neutralize the rudder. We immediately snapped into a spin in the opposite direction. The IP took over and recovered. He was a great instructor. I always felt comfortable when flying with him. On the first day of the T-37 flight line a student and IP from a more advanced class were killed without an attempt to eject. The theory was that it was a low overcast day, the student/IP misread the altimeter and started the spin at 10,000 feet, a recovery was missed and the second attempt they were too low to succeed.
USAF is simply a cut above. That's a cute little go-fast aircraft - your T-37. Was it fun to fly?
When the new guy lied on his application.
DPE: "OK you're too high show me how you lose altitude the quickest way."
Him:
The speed is life, the altitude is life insurance.
Imagine being someone on the ground having no idea what’s going on
Theres a private airstrip near my house and yes the first time I saw a stall spin I thought i was witnessing a plane crash haha lol. Saw him do it many times after that
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Imagine this right above your house. 😬
or someone on youtube having no ideea what’s going on ... oh wait, that's me
I was reading about these sorts of spins in the era of early aviation, and it never really clicked to me just how terrifying they must have been both from inside and as an observer. Especially back when they were not well understood and nobody knew how to get out of a spin once you were in one. After watching this video I think I understand a bit better now
My brother is going to demonstrate spinning this week. Please pray that he will pass the test and land safely🙏🏻✨
When I chase the enemy plane in war thunder
Enemy plane:
literally fall from the sky
Im usually the one doing the enemy plane maneuvers. lol
@@ChefofWar33 same here o7✌
I don't usually speak out loud when I watch videos on RUclips. This one was exceptional.
Today I experienced a stall for the first time as a student, performed by my instructor of course.
It's not fun at all, what a sensation! It makes you take this situation very seriously.
My face immediately became a Harold meme.
Fr. It’s ducking terrifying
@@the_cutter8485 fsfs. After you learn to do them with you at the controls, they are no longer scary and are fun, then with repetition are quite benign. That said I remember the first time I tried to level ailerons on a power on staff before pushing the nose down and nearly spun us. Only did that *once*. Hard lesson, but I'll never forget it. It's been a year since your comment, I'm sure you've earned your PPL by now. :)
Great camera work! Interesting to see a spin from another plane's perspective.
Good way to show a standard spin. After 3rd turn the spin seems to be stabilized. Nice recovery.
Love your Snoopy avatar!!! I have Snoopy in his Doghouse mounted on my dashboard.
ATC: November 945 Papa Victor state your intentions.
N945PV: We play helicopter 🚁
I've been watching alot of spin recovery videos from cockpit. Seeing it like this puts a whole different perspective on it.
Great video! I got to fly that exact tail number this summer and it was a blast!! Spins were cool, but my favorite was an inverted loop. That was intense
Looks like the incipient spin developed into a flat spin almost
wow what a great view of this stall/spin/recovery! I can't wait to get in an acrobatic aircraft one day
I was not expecting them to let it keep going that long holy shit
I am glad you recovered !
"Hold *J* to leave your aircraft"
@Munarchy Inside joke.
J
Beautiful demonstration and filming.
Very good video of a spin from that perspective! Haven't seen it like that before
Good thing about the Extra,
you can spin it 20 times holding in pro spin inputs then instant you release and add some negetive rudder it recovers in like 1/2 rotation.
everytime, if you do nothing it recovers by itself
Damn...that seemed a little to close for comfort for me.
Pretty sure it was just the camera angle, company like that is sure to follow the minimum recovery altitude. Makes me wonder how high up they were when the spin was initiated.
Wow what a demo! Great recovery
"Please connect you controller to a charger"
After bumbling into an spin from an accelerated stall while learning to fly in a Cessna 150 I had my instructor teach me how to get out of them. That gave me a lot of confidence and control, especially when I went on to gliders, which thermal fairly close to a stall/spin condition. A little practice with a good CFI can also avoid getting into the trap of skidding (and likely spinning at an unrecoverable altitude) on a poorly overshot base to final turn. They also are fun to learn!
So how do you get out of them? Just opposite rudder?
@@syntexx384 Power Idle (remove downforce on tail), Ailerons neutral (clean wings, even and minimal drag), Rudder opposite spin direction (stop rotation), elevator forward (to break stall).
You can spin on an overshot of base? Would that be from overcorrecting your approach?
that was one longggggg spin lol. looked cool and I love that sbach
Hello! I was wondering if it could be possible to use this video in one of my videos. I'm making a video regarding this topic, and your video will be perfect for explaining this in detail. Thanks very much in advance!! Of course you will get the credits and links to your channel
Great video.
My first time watching this, my heart was still in my throat watching them spin down like that even though i knew they were going to recover.
From someone who flies. That made me feel bout sick haha
War Thunder players: *HOW*
i knew how to flatspin the ME264 bomber but i forgot how to flatspin so time 4 tutorial
Go play simulator battles and you will find out
Go play a real plane and you will find out
Passenger: Uh, I strongly need to visit restroom.
Captain: Say no more.
Don't do this at home.
I can't do this at home... Might try it in the air tho
@@tatarugabriel4328 I’m pretty sure that was his joke...
@@bean7675 roger that
Trying this above your neighborhood
@@LOKSTED 300m above cities and villages? Pfff LMAO flight rules are cute
Oh myyy gawd - that was insane.
Awesome vantage!
Well done
Would love to see the on board footage from the other plane
That was awesome!
This has probably been mentioned but watch the rudder (control on the verticle stabilizer on the tail). Just at the start of the spin the rudder goes hard left and stay that way as far as you can see. That is a big part of what is holding the spin. All he does after the dozen or so turns, i didnt count, is release the rudder back to the middle and let a little pressure off the yoke and probably something with the throttle but im a glider spinner so i dont have one of those. They were probably alot further above the trees than it looks as well. Id wage at least 500 ft but more likely above 1000
Great training provided by a group called Prevalence in Virginia with this aircraft type.
Damn! That looked close.😳 But I'm sure he has done it many times.👍
Wow adrenalina pure 👍
I haven’t done my UPRT course yet but holy shit, I bet the recovery is initiated much sooner than in this clip. That was very close to the ground... The PIC has got some 00 of steel.
My dad and I did a slow nose up stall in a 1946 taylorcraft. Didn't spin just dropped 600 ft before nose down and flying at 82 mph simple and smooth
Aviation Admirer: I fly as half decent help in the right front seat with some GA pilot buddies. This is absolutely on my bucket list to experience.
wow he let that one go on forever! Great footage
That’s why I never practiced power on stalls in my RV. I spun a C-152 twice in training (one was when I was solo), and that was enough.
What would the Gs peak at in this spin? Would this cause complete structural failure in your typical Piper of 172?
loved stalling in my 150, [5000'] trim nose up, reduced rpm pitch up, incipient stall, horn goes, nose drops kick in full rudder, (either) count the turns, centralise rudder hands off yolk, she pitches up beautifully, apply power resume strait and level, thanks to Brian CFI at Seawing Flying club Southend, taught me so much.
That looks like fun! From the outside it looks like it just abruptly drops a wing without warning.
Damn... Skills and balls of steel.
Ok real shit, when you know it’s about to happen and how to get out of one spins are so much fun
That's a cool trick to drop altitude really quick too 😂.
I used to do those inverted, flat and accelerated. Took a little bit to recover.
This isn't nerve wracking this is nerve destroying. I cant feel my legs
Heh, in THAT plane it’s almost a non-event. If it were a regular GA aircraft, then its a bit more serious!
plot twist: you were already paraplegic.
Crazy penta heli stall my bro
Respect. I'm sure this is takes alot of mental fortitude. V cool
I didn’t realize that spins looked that uncoordinated
PHEW!!! My stomach couldn't take this!!
Reminds me of my AFI test flight with the legend that was Z.I..from Redhill. He said “ talk through the spin and hold till I tell you to recover.”........ this over the Downs under the London TMA! Seemed an age before he let me..... nice bloke though...
How many expletives can one fit in between stall and recovery?
A understanding of this basic maneuver is paramount to any aspiring pilot for any type of flying, does that make this any less stress inducing to watch this and to think I have to preform this maneuver eventually; no , no it doesn't. But I have a dream. and it will be reality.
Is it worth getting a pilots license if your an ap in ga with an old dui?
HA. I've flown that exact plane before! Thats cool.
We have to do spins in PPL training, and it's a flight test item for CPL training in Canada. I absolutely hate doing it.. But worth to know how to recover.
So how do you recover from it? Do you try to turn into the spin until the nose is pointing down?
Great way to lose a lot of altitude quickly without ripping your wings off right
That had to be one of the most terrifying feelings. The guy obviously knew what he was doing, but as a passenger I would shit my pants
The courage to do that…All respect earned.
No courage involved. It's a learned skill. With moderate application, you can learn it.
To my amateur knowledge to recover from this all you have to do is apply rudder to the opposite side of the spin, push the nose down and increase the throttle and you're out.
dude there is def courage involved to become a pilot @@lucasgroves137
Nice video
My anxiety was through the roof. Like "OPPOSITE RUDDER!"
IS tailspin recovery part of training for a pilot's license?
Is the recovery procedure for an Extra generally the same as a 172? Idle throttle, stick forward, and opposite rudder to break the stall?
P-A-R-E Power to idle, Ailerons to neutral, Rudder opposite the spin, Elevator (down) to break the stall (ailerons being important to go neutral, because they could be increasing angle of attack, which makes the stall worse)
What kind was this plane? Can anybody help? Thanx..
Hello there,
i would like to use this video for my own (of course my first) youtube video.
if it is in order for you, please reply to this comment.
Thank you!!
This is why I love the robin
Modern planes are just awesome
What plane is that
Epic
inside feels like a rollercoaster but from outside its like watching a brick drop
Well said. The macho among us alibis that it’s “fun”. Btw…..cat litter does a good job of getting the vomit up. 🤮
Is that a Van's RV-8?
As a CFI, reason one why would-be renters fail their checkout?
My need to stop the pilot from killing us,
via almost putting us in cross controlled stall at under 500 feet AGL,
whilst "correcting" for their overshot base to final turn.
Did the rotation change after turn 1???
Stick forward, opposite rudder, apply power.
The amount of G forces
The plane looked like it just did that lol
Nose down opposite rudder?
What plane is this?
Awesome capture! Would you be okay with me featuring this in my video? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description.
I did a gliding course ages ago, when we did spin recovery my classmates also said they thought I would corkscrew in.