@@ClassicGamer9044 The water in the GameCube preview version looked AMAZING, I wish they kept it, because it looked better than any port of the game or even the original version
I still remember taking my weeks vacation for the launch of the Sega Dreamcast on 9-9-99. I miss the day's I felt that way about gaming. I still enjoy playing Xbox One,PlayStation 4,even the Wii U but i don't get the same rush.
Sinto a mesma coisa hoje em dia. Vivi a época de lançamento do PS2, dreamcast, 64 etc . Era demais, especial e mágico. Principalmente em relação a amigos. Todos falavam sobre os games. Hoje? 🤦🏻♂️. A magia acabou. Tenho o ps5 e não sinto nada em relação a seus lancamentos 😂. Mas graças a Deus, tenho tambem meu Xbox clássico, Xbox ,360 fat edição final fantasy e meu dreamcast na caixa. 👏👍👊
Nah, it’s a lazy-rushed port, the GameCube is way more powerful than the Dreamcast, games like Metroid Prime, Resident Evil: Remake, Zero, and 4 could never run on Dreamcast,
I hate that people treat every game as if it were made today. I personally take the time into consideration. I can't criticize the original Mario Bros for not having a save system because saving wasn't invented yet, as annoying as it is to start the game over if I get a game over.
but is the truth the game is not aged very well and im not saying the game is bad. the genesis trilogy and cd is still playable now the android ports of sonic 1,2 and cd is considered the best port i dont know why sega not put sonic 3 & knuckles on android too. meanwhile the adventure series eeehhhh...
SCIRROCO 456 Doesn't mean it's fair to treat it as if it were made today. It's an early 3D game so of course it will have some issues. I don't know, there are very few older games that I don't like going back to.
+Kylee The Youkai i like the classic and modern sonic games. for me the adventure series its just to much for the sonic games especially SA2. to cheesy,to dark,to edgy for me its not fit well in a sonic game. and the gameplay well....the controls in SA1 its just... i cant controlled sonic. SA2 the controls is much better but still. thats why my favorites in the modern sonic is colors and generations. colors is not to dark or edgy i feel its like what the classic sonic is. and the gameplay is much better and faster then any other sonic games well there unleashed but they ruining with the werehog stages
My problem with the DX version is how glossy the characters are. I can't stand the models in DX, I'll take the lower rez models in the Dreamcast version. They just fit with the world better.
The engine wasn't truly optimized to take advantage of either system. It was developed before DC hardware was finalized, I think the DC could have run the game at 60, but this is a comparison of what we actually got. You can't see from a video as much, but I've played both versions and find that the GC version is a bit more twitchy in the controls and is prone to more random glitchy physics than the DC version is (a bit noticeable at the whale chase). The GC also has bad framerate issues. The DC is locked at 30fps most of the time, the GC version fluctuates from 60 to below 30. This was remedied in the XBLA/PSN version and that is locked at 60fps. I do think the DC has superior textures, I don't know why they felt the need to change them in the first place. I also dislike the updated character models (mostly), and their plastic shine, they had some nice texture mapping on DC, they should have just increased the polys and kept the textures. For these reasons, the DC is superior to the GC version.
Damn.. I love how much more arcade-y looking and feeling it was playing to play the Dreamcast version.. This really brings me back to a fateful Christmas... Jesus. Lol
Disagreed. DX is a downgraded version of the original. Honestly, DX is the reason why Sonic Adventure even has its reputation as an unpolished, buggy game. Most of those shortcomings are a result of the terrible porting done in DX.
@@pikachu896 well I’m least I’m grateful to even play sonic adventure on the dx. I did saw how the game looked like a downgrade from the Dreamcast, but besides the looks it was fine! The only “bugs” I encountered was me no clipping into certain areas, but it just because I was going really fast on the sonic levels. But kinda sucks the looks look badly tho lol
You have to remember this we’re all rushed lazy ports in the beginning of the GameCube’s life cycle, games like Metroid prime, Resident Evil 4 look better than anything on Dreamcast.
Edit: A versão de Gamecube, tem detalhes de sombras nos cenários achei muito bonitas. A água foi logo de cara que reparei, transparência legal o efeito. A de Dreamcast também tem cores vivas e com detalhes ricos na fase Emerald Coast, só o bug do Sonic no final que foi engraçado, olhando para os animais. O que não me agradou foi o detalhe de gloss nos personagens no GC, que ficou parecendo boneco de plástico. No DC, eles tem aparência mais fofinhas. Sonic gordinho, fora as caretas que ele faz são demais. Difícil decisão em escolher qual é o melhor!
Thank you for making this video! I grew up with the Gamecube, and while I do agree that the Dreamcast looks better than the Gamecube, the Gamecube still holds a special place in my heart.
GC feels odd though playing it. there is something with the fps going on I remember. I played the other day as well and just had to stop gamecube version. Went back to dreamcast and it's so much smoother in gameplay
I prefer the Dreamcast version, even though the models on that one look kind of bad. The models in that version give off a modern yet classic feel to the game, like how Dreamcast Sonic somewhat reminds me of Classic Sonic. Also, the lighting and overall handling of the Dreamcast version looks better to me than the GameCube version, which has better character models, minor improvements like 60 FPS all the time, but awfully terrible lighting and it's unstable feel to it than the Dreamcast version. The FPS doesn't really matter at all to me in both versions, whether some scenes or segments of gameplay were 30 FPS or not. But hey, all of this is my personal opinion!
but gamecube doesn't feel smooth when running at the "60"fps.. 30fps on dreamcast is somehow more stable and smoother. I even have the PC version and the fps is not smooth. They should've spend a bit more time on that on a smoother experience. I keep playing dreamcast version because of that
I'm surprised since the DC version clearly looks smoother to me (when playing both, not according to the vid). I also don't agree on models, GC version has more polygons but I like the DC ones better aestetically.
The ever-present 360° bit (iconic ever since the first chapter) gave me quite the Sonic X-Treme vibes... now I know why, I didn't knew that, thanks for telling me ;)
@@bangerbangerbro The part in which Sonic does a 360° spin kinda reminded me (as for the camera angle, FPS etc) of what would have been Sonic X-Treme on the Saturn (apart from the obvious graphical upgrade).. I just felt that the Sonic Team could have performed it similarly on the Saturn as well... If you imagine replacing the "dynamic" camera of Adventure with the infamous-not-so-infamous (at least for me, it was a nice experiment IMHO) "fish-eye camera" of X-Treme, you'll see it as well...
@@giuliobarbera6227 I like the idea of the fisheye too. But what part of the video are you talking about? I kind find anything that looks like what you describe?
It feels weird seeing the Dreamcast models look so different from the Director's Cut models, despite the fact I played both games. I guesss I never really had the chance to compare them properly.
exactly and did you see the new floor? horrible! Dreamcast looked way better. They thought they had to retouch everything and the fps wasn't stable on gamecube either (nor on PC). Dreamcast the better version to me personal
Dreamcast version will always be the best way to play Sonic Adventure games. The controller was specifically designed for this game. That and the graphical changes are a bit weird. This game didn't need a makeover! It was already LEGENDARY and PERFECT on the GREATEST VIDEO GAME CONSOLE of all Time!
Dreamcast version wins, but tbf there are 2 versions of the Dreamcast version, but the 1st buggy version is only available in Japan and the 2nd version "Sonic Adventure International" is the version we all were given in the west.
DC= mostly better textures and mostly better lighting, I say mostly because there are a few things that are improved on DX while everything else is either removed or simplified
Since I've only played the GameCube version, I have no problem with the characters being shiny, and with that in mind, I also prefer the way the models look in that version better overall in terms of size, shape, and colors
I know alot of Sega Dreamcast owners hate DX, - but as a Sega fan I appreciate what Sonic team were going for in both versions. Sonic team were aiming for more wholesale makeover on GCN to bring it in line with the SA2 aesthetic but it was likely pushed out the door by Sega, as remember they were still trying to stay afloat.
No cabe la comparacion, no estamos hablando de una misma version que haya salido para ambos sistemas al mismo tiempo sino justo lo contrario, estamos comparando el original de 1998 con la remasterizacion hecha en 2003, hay mucha diferencia de tiempo y de tecnologias que se usaron para uno y otro momento, no es una comparacion justa incluso cuando ambas versiones fueron hechas por SEGA, ergo tampoco es la tipica rivalidad de comparar juegos de Third Parties lanzados en un mismo momento tanto para Sega como para Nintendo, sino del caso opuesto, un juego que la propia Sega volvió a relanzar haciendole una remasterizacion digital.
A pesar de que las versiones de gc/pc/steam/ps3/x360 tengan mejor modelado, texturas y 60fps sigo prefiriendo la versión original de dreamcast. Tiene efectos de sombras, mejor calidad de sonido, aunque vaya a 30fps son estables (no como el horrible port despues con 60 fps y bajones de 20fps sobre todo con la versión de pc)y yo creo que la ventaja que tiene sobre las versiones posteriores (y es más que notorio) es que es muy estable y no tiene tantos glitches ni bugs. Por eso prefiero la versión de dreamcast
Aw man, I have an attachment with both versions since I had both when I was a kid. But I've had the gamecube version alot longer since I still have it till this day.
@@zeaferjones1404 They had zero coordination. SEGA JP and Sega Us werent working together and that's what lead to their fall. If they went from Sega Genesis to Saturn and released the Saturn when they originally said they would then we'd still have Sega consoles till this day.
It blew my mind when I learned that Sonic Adventure were Dreamcast games originally. The Dreamcast was so obscure in my personal sphere I never even knew about it until a decade later, so I grew up with and loved the Gamecube versions.
To be honest, I’m not sure which version I prefer. I grew up with the GameCube version but also enjoyed the Dreamcast version just as much. And while I do prefer some things over the other in both versions, I feel that they are both great! (Despite what some people think) however, I think I may prefer the DC version a bit more. But I still like the GC version because it’s what I grew up with. To put it into perspective, I think that both versions are great!
4 characters got a huge facelift, 1 got slight polish (Big, his hands are now more detailed and have separate fingers along with a much smoother model for the hands)
El diseño de los personajes en Dreamcast es mucho más bello y recuerda al antiguo Sonic. En GameCube está ese diseño plástico y horrible del Sonic moderno que practicamente acabó con el sentimiento que despertaba el personaje.
I like them both, like each one has what the other lacks, like the Dreamcast version has dorky 3D models, but a better lighting engine, so how well would the GameCube version fare with the Dreamcast lighting?
The gamecube/PC version is slightly more refined (and the PC version has several mods dedicated to improving it's performance). However it's missing loads of small little effects that gave the Dreamcast version more atmosphere. Loads of ambient sound effects and dynamic lighting effects throughout the game are absent (compare the Final Egg base in both versions for example, especially during Gamma's intro, way darker and creepier in the Dreamcast version).
there is a reason on PC there is a dreamcast "restoration" mod the original graphics may have not been higher technically but they have some stylistic choices that hold up better
PC version doesn't has the lantern engine, which was the light system of the original version, therefore it doesn't has a proper light system and it looks weird.
As duas são bonitas, mas a do GameCube tem mais brilho, mais detalhes nos gráficos e os cenários constroem bem menos que a versão do Dreamcast. Eu diria que o do Game Cube de forma geral saiu melhor, porém a do Dreamcast foi muito mais nostálgica, pois foi a primeira versão 3D do Sonic que apareceu em console.
I guess it might be due to the camera perspective here but I honestly couldnt tell if the GC one was at 60 frames based on this stage, it's way easier to tell these thing in a game with fixed camera or sidescrolling one. I guess maybe the speed at which everything goes makes it a bit difficult to really draw a comparison. Both versions are good either way.
It's amazing what Sonic Team pulled off with the original DC version. It was designed with only estimated specs of the final hardware. They played it safe and designed the engine around those specs, not even fully optimized for the final DC design, but the DC handles it like a champ. The engine itself probably could not have handled 60fps even on a DC even though there is enough extra power there, and I blame the engine for that poor performance on the Gamecube as well. I think there is just so much power behind the 360/PS3 that it just powers through the issues with brute force (sort of like how Xbox emulation works on Xbone). I like the textures of the DC version much better than the GC version, however, I like the new baked in lighting/shadows that they put in on the level textures, it makes it come to life more than before. The SA2 engine was much better designed, as Sonic Team was already quite used to the DC hardware by then, and thanks to the similarity in GC hardware and much less being updated in comparison to the SADX port, it turned out much better. I argue that a poor engine not fully optimized to the DC final hardware is why Shenmue doesn't look as good as it should either, like the high res models in the prologue disc that were made much later in development. AM2 projected the DC to have 8MB RAM while the final was 16MB, the Shenmue engine was designed around that, and unfortunately Shenmue II shares the same engine, although much better optimized, it's not designed with the final DC hardware in mind.
both look very good over all. I think i like the water effects and cooler colour pallet on the DC but it ma just be because that how i remember it should be. I think i would call this one a dead heat.
as a late 90s baby, i didnt have the benefit of having a dreamcast, so i grew up on the gamecube versiob heavily. now watching this, I prefer the 1999 version of the game. still great but I love nostalgia
Not just a power thing. The ps1 was 10x weaker than the Saturn and the Saturn has some of the worst multi-platform games of that generation. It was definitely just a decision not to
I hate when they do too much when enhancing the graphics. All people really want is the same exact look with better graphics with refinements neccessary to enhance the designs or over all look at best.
The Gamecube version lets you skip cutscenes. If you don't believe me, you can watch ExoParadigmGamer's ROR on SA1 and SA2, which also shows that most, if not all the glitches have to be done on purpose. And while the GCN and PSN versions do have more glitches, there's still a glitch that is in the DC version so none of the 3 versions are glitch-free.
A pesar de que las texturas de DX se no se vean tan mal y se ven mas parecidas a los demas juegos de Sonic como Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes, Sonic Colors y Sonic Lost World, se pierde ese realismo que tal vez hacia especial al juego original y diferente a otros juegos anteriores y posteriores. pero almenos la versión DX cumple con ser un buen juego de todos modos, agregar contenido extra y entrener al jugador. Yo lo probe en Xbox 360 y me gusto bastante el juego pero por lo que e visto pienso comprar un Dreamcast para probar la versión original para ver como es.
I dont get a game based on how the graphics are better in different systems but it interests me the differences in which personally looks better and how the hardware can run that
La verdad esque hay poca diferencia,lo que no entiendo es porque pone 30 fps dreamcast ...?cuando este juego en Dreamcast va a 60..?¿un saludo buen video
Dreamcasts' character textures look more appopriate and I prefer the models too (stockier/ rounder), although the environment looks higher quality and more vivid in DX.
Weird. I sort of like the brighter colors better in the Gamecube version but the lighting is abysmal. Which is even weirder because it looks like DX has shadows for static objects. But the colors aren't worth a damn because the textures don't have any smoothing. It really looks like the DC one is utilizing some kind of native post-processing shader that really makes everything look so much smoother and easier to look at. DX on Gamecube was how I played Sonic Adventure back in the day, but I really wanted a Dreamcast in '99 and I _really_ wanted Sonic Adventure.
the Dreamcast versions had a better more rich lighting system and luscious looking textures and ran at a very high resolution for the time whilst maintaining 60fps where as the Gamecube version and all the ports that followed used a simple lighting system dull textures and ran at an average resolution at 30fps the Dreamcast was definitely ahead of it's time
I never realized this until now, but the DC version had a pretty shitty draw distance. Look at all the stuff just appearing out of nowhere. That being said, I'm surprised the GC has it as well, just not as bad. The GC's processor was more than twice as fast as the DC's, but somehow it still had some pop-up. Does it have to do with the higer-resolution models and/or the higher framerate?
Geez, the character models in the Gamecube Version look like the character models were dipped in glaze. I have the Gamecube version of this game, I brought it because I was so bothered by the 30 FPS in the Dreamcast Version.
The shaders for the Dreamcast version of the game are much smoother and less cel-shaded compared to the DX version. if you want a great experience, check out the Dreamcast Conversion mod.
At least they increased the geometry, I mean on Dreamcast, they basically had mittens that had finger textures, and on Gamecube, their fingers have proper geometry.
However, not all of the character models were changed. When Sonic goes into a ball, he changes back into his SA1 model. Amy does the same when captured by Zero.
gc may have better models but as far as stage graphics go the floor textures, lighting just look far better on dreamcast not to mention less glitches like the loop glitch on emerald coast which is only on dx, that and the frame rate while lower on dc is far more stable, another thing dc got right is that the model textures represent fur where ad dx just makes them look all shiny.
gostei do seu canal, vc pegou o mesmo esquema do canal Gaming Palooza Empire, eu gosto dessas comparações, acho bacana...da pra perceber que depende mais dos jogos do que dos consoles...
0:28 there are diferences in models, look at knucles's shoes, GC has more polygons, of course DX version has this weird plastic glow effect but there is another point about light, there are more shadows and it's more accurate in GC version.
No it doesn't. GC version looks much worse overall especially the lighting. Only the character models were improved and even then the NPCs besides Tikal and Eggman still use their DC models so it looks awkward. GC port also frequently dips to 30 fps and sometimes even below that. Very lazy port.
That would be nice. I agree, the differences in that stage are much more noticeable, especially in the first part of Act 2 (the mirror segment). In the PC version the lighting is so terrible I can get through without lighting the mirrors. XD
When it comes to the models and the environments, the DX version is better but the lighting and texture are better in the Dreamcast version as the characters don’t look like plastic action figures
Dreamcast: Shadow effect, better lighting, 30fps locked, without glitches or bugs, better sound effect. Gamecube (and rest): Better models and textures, 60fps (but unstable) and the addition of game's from Sega game gear So the winner is DREAMCAST (really, at least dc version doesnt have glitches like gc)
If you are including PC in that you are definitely mistaken, the betterSADX mod essentially fixed all the terrible glitches/bugs that plagued the GC AND mods have already been made to revert the lighting/textures to DC with someone currently working on a mod to revert the sound effects as well. Oh and not to mention the controls and camera with the betterSADX mod ACTUALLY make sense. Something neither of those versions could get right back then.
LMC1996 Glitches? Like what? Where is any proof other then the loop thing? I don't think the GC version should be known for it's glitches. And you have to go out of your way to make the "glitch" happen.
Old-Pataxu 3DS It isn't hard not falling off. Hold up the Analog Stick! It is that easy. The DC version has more glitches then the GC one. I spindash to a wall, i fall through the floor. Sonic's eye is like a slotmachine in the DC version. More camera issues in the DC version. The GC version only has collision detection issues in small areas and small pieces of the level. But you can skip these issues by holding up on the Analog Stick, which is what you are supposed to do.
The gamecube version definitely has more graphical fidelity but I'd say the Dreamcast version had a much stronger and more realized art direction with its colors and textures. And I say that as someone who exclusively grew up with the gamecube version.
I grew up in the 16-Bit Wars....Just the thought of a Sega game on Nintendo hardware blows my mind.
Gonzo Indigenous One makes me 😡
Sheesh...I meant that in a good way.
Gonzo Indigenous One nothing good about sonic on Nintendo it just doesn't feel right
Yea. I can agree with that. But what about Sonic and Mario duking it out in Smash Bros?
Gonzo Indigenous One yer that would be good as I like to see sonic kick Mario ass
2:10 Those water waves in dreamcast tho..
That ugly profile picture though
Edit: all jokes aside I think the water looks better on GameCube then it does on Dreamcast 😅
@@ClassicGamer9044 The water in the GameCube preview version looked AMAZING, I wish they kept it, because it looked better than any port of the game or even the original version
@@stormwatch32 And?
@__ i just find the dreamcast version better overall tbh
@@bangerbangerbro and dreamcast win
I still remember taking my weeks vacation for the launch of the Sega Dreamcast on 9-9-99. I miss the day's I felt that way about gaming. I still enjoy playing Xbox One,PlayStation 4,even the Wii U but i don't get the same rush.
Sinto a mesma coisa hoje em dia. Vivi a época de lançamento do PS2, dreamcast, 64 etc . Era demais, especial e mágico. Principalmente em relação a amigos. Todos falavam sobre os games. Hoje? 🤦🏻♂️. A magia acabou. Tenho o ps5 e não sinto nada em relação a seus lancamentos 😂. Mas graças a Deus, tenho tambem meu Xbox clássico, Xbox ,360 fat edição final fantasy e meu dreamcast na caixa. 👏👍👊
@@Kennedyplayzs I honestly feel the Xbox 360\PS3 generation will be the last great generation of console gaming.
@@KISSFan1977 After this generation everything went downhill...
Why does the GameCube version not have the wave physics????
I think all these changes were to make the game run at 60fps no matter what
It's a lazy port.
Nah, it’s a lazy-rushed port, the GameCube is way more powerful than the Dreamcast, games like Metroid Prime, Resident Evil: Remake, Zero, and 4 could never run on Dreamcast,
Saying that a game is bad because it hasn't aged well is stupid to me.
I personally think it aged very well! The GC version, at least...
I hate that people treat every game as if it were made today. I personally take the time into consideration.
I can't criticize the original Mario Bros for not having a save system because saving wasn't invented yet, as annoying as it is to start the game over if I get a game over.
but is the truth the game is not aged very well and im not saying the game is bad.
the genesis trilogy and cd is still playable now
the android ports of sonic 1,2 and cd is considered the best port i dont know why sega not put sonic 3 & knuckles on android too.
meanwhile the adventure series eeehhhh...
SCIRROCO 456 Doesn't mean it's fair to treat it as if it were made today. It's an early 3D game so of course it will have some issues. I don't know, there are very few older games that I don't like going back to.
+Kylee The Youkai i like the classic and modern sonic games.
for me the adventure series its just to much for the sonic games especially SA2.
to cheesy,to dark,to edgy for me its not fit well in a sonic game.
and the gameplay well....the controls in SA1 its just... i cant controlled sonic.
SA2 the controls is much better but still.
thats why my favorites in the modern sonic is colors and generations.
colors is not to dark or edgy i feel its like what the classic sonic is.
and the gameplay is much better and faster then any other sonic games well there unleashed but they ruining with the werehog stages
Sega Dreamcast version is better.
PC versión is the better versión ☝️🤓🗿🚬
@@carlosxboxpsnintendo3300only with mods without mods it’s 4th place
*Graphics:* Dreamcast
*Map models:* debatable
*Character models:* GameCube
*Lighting:* Dreamcast
*Water texture:* Dreamcast but GameCube for sewers
*Sound:* Dreamcast (although at first glance they sound very similar)
*Load times:* GameCube
*Animations:* Dreamcast
*Chao race entrance/stadium:* Dreamcast
*Collision detection:* Dreamcast
@@liamtheshow easily 4th place I dont even bother with the pc version
Fr I play on redream sa1
My problem with the DX version is how glossy the characters are. I can't stand the models in DX, I'll take the lower rez models in the Dreamcast version. They just fit with the world better.
Patrick H Why is Dreamcast better.
It's not the models, it's the terrible lighting that makes the GC models so hideous.
@@ToastyMann There's a mod to fix that now in later versions of BetterSADX, just saying.
@@alexthejapanfan7905 I'm aware.
@@ToastyMann nice.
I ♥ Amy's GC model (00:36) so much but overall Dreamcast (VGA) for me.
im late but here's some more noticeable differences
1. the pupils are bigger
2. the ears are higher
3. the dress is slimmer
The engine wasn't truly optimized to take advantage of either system. It was developed before DC hardware was finalized, I think the DC could have run the game at 60, but this is a comparison of what we actually got. You can't see from a video as much, but I've played both versions and find that the GC version is a bit more twitchy in the controls and is prone to more random glitchy physics than the DC version is (a bit noticeable at the whale chase). The GC also has bad framerate issues. The DC is locked at 30fps most of the time, the GC version fluctuates from 60 to below 30. This was remedied in the XBLA/PSN version and that is locked at 60fps. I do think the DC has superior textures, I don't know why they felt the need to change them in the first place. I also dislike the updated character models (mostly), and their plastic shine, they had some nice texture mapping on DC, they should have just increased the polys and kept the textures. For these reasons, the DC is superior to the GC version.
Damn.. I love how much more arcade-y looking and feeling it was playing to play the Dreamcast version.. This really brings me back to a fateful Christmas... Jesus. Lol
Can we just agree that Sonic Adventure is awesome regardless of how you played it. For me it feels the best on Dreamcast but looks the best on GC
GC-version has many downgrades, actually.
Disagreed. DX is a downgraded version of the original. Honestly, DX is the reason why Sonic Adventure even has its reputation as an unpolished, buggy game. Most of those shortcomings are a result of the terrible porting done in DX.
@@pikachu896 well I’m least I’m grateful to even play sonic adventure on the dx. I did saw how the game looked like a downgrade from the Dreamcast, but besides the looks it was fine!
The only “bugs” I encountered was me no clipping into certain areas, but it just because I was going really fast on the sonic levels. But kinda sucks the looks look badly tho lol
"Can we just agree that Sonic Adventure is awesome "
Lmfao big nope
@@isodoubIet coward. It's a better transition from 2d to 3d than any Mario game or Nintendo franchise
I swear their something about sonic beach stages that just put me in a great mood
ur pfp fits ur comment
Yes and yes
I totally had bets on the gamecube version winning the race, but the dreamcast version pulled ahead last second.
Thrilling races!
@ronysonny no he could it was just a longer button press most likely
You have to remember this we’re all rushed lazy ports in the beginning of the GameCube’s life cycle, games like Metroid prime, Resident Evil 4 look better than anything on Dreamcast.
Edit: A versão de Gamecube, tem detalhes de sombras nos cenários achei muito bonitas. A água foi logo de cara que reparei, transparência legal o efeito. A de Dreamcast também tem cores vivas e com detalhes ricos na fase Emerald Coast, só o bug do Sonic no final que foi engraçado, olhando para os animais.
O que não me agradou foi o detalhe de gloss nos personagens no GC, que ficou parecendo boneco de plástico.
No DC, eles tem aparência mais fofinhas. Sonic gordinho, fora as caretas que ele faz são demais.
Difícil decisão em escolher qual é o melhor!
Thank you for making this video!
I grew up with the Gamecube, and while I do agree that the Dreamcast looks better than the Gamecube, the Gamecube still holds a special place in my heart.
I grew up with the DX version too but since playing the original, I just can't go back to it.
I agree your comment .
You have many good memories of gamecube.
Enjoy your game life!
The Dreamcast version just holds all of the nostalgia for me... but I did grow up on the GC version... why not both? 😄
MetroidFREAK21 I feel the same way, as I too grew up with the GameCube version (though I do prefer the Dreamcast version a bit more)
GC feels odd though playing it. there is something with the fps going on I remember. I played the other day as well and just had to stop gamecube version. Went back to dreamcast and it's so much smoother in gameplay
I feel the same way! I grew up with the GC graphics!
It's like the Sicko Mo Bamba
Beacuse Sonic has a weird and divided fanbase that are never happy unless Christian Whitehead is programing the game
The Gamecube port sure made Tails and the others really shiny.
Thats a something not really a bad thing
it is a good thing in my opinion
bboth version are shiny
how? its jarring and unfitting for the characters and game.
+Pikachu True
Despite the fact that I grew up with the DX port, the dreamcast version from what I see and can tell is a lot better.
I prefer the Dreamcast version, even though the models on that one look kind of bad. The models in that version give off a modern yet classic feel to the game, like how Dreamcast Sonic somewhat reminds me of Classic Sonic. Also, the lighting and overall handling of the Dreamcast version looks better to me than the GameCube version, which has better character models, minor improvements like 60 FPS all the time, but awfully terrible lighting and it's unstable feel to it than the Dreamcast version. The FPS doesn't really matter at all to me in both versions, whether some scenes or segments of gameplay were 30 FPS or not.
But hey, all of this is my personal opinion!
but gamecube doesn't feel smooth when running at the "60"fps.. 30fps on dreamcast is somehow more stable and smoother. I even have the PC version and the fps is not smooth. They should've spend a bit more time on that on a smoother experience. I keep playing dreamcast version because of that
I'm surprised since the DC version clearly looks smoother to me (when playing both, not according to the vid). I also don't agree on models, GC version has more polygons but I like the DC ones better aestetically.
@@Malheirods but the DX models are at least more accurate to the artwork sa1 had, am I right? So why not both if you like?
@Alex The Japan Fan I always thought it was the other way around.
I agree. The over all aesthetics are more important than how technically impressive the graphics may or may not be.
Dreamcast models almost resemble their old classic era designs since the game was originally designed to be on the Saturn.
The ever-present 360° bit (iconic ever since the first chapter) gave me quite the Sonic X-Treme vibes... now I know why, I didn't knew that, thanks for telling me ;)
@@giuliobarbera6227 Sorry what are you talking about?
@@bangerbangerbro The part in which Sonic does a 360° spin kinda reminded me (as for the camera angle, FPS etc) of what would have been Sonic X-Treme on the Saturn (apart from the obvious graphical upgrade).. I just felt that the Sonic Team could have performed it similarly on the Saturn as well... If you imagine replacing the "dynamic" camera of Adventure with the infamous-not-so-infamous (at least for me, it was a nice experiment IMHO) "fish-eye camera" of X-Treme, you'll see it as well...
@@giuliobarbera6227 I like the idea of the fisheye too. But what part of the video are you talking about? I kind find anything that looks like what you describe?
@@bangerbangerbro 1:28 ;)
It feels weird seeing the Dreamcast models look so different from the Director's Cut models, despite the fact I played both games. I guesss I never really had the chance to compare them properly.
It sucks that Everyone judges the game by the gamecube version (DX version), which is more glitchier and in my opinion, looks worse
exactly and did you see the new floor? horrible! Dreamcast looked way better. They thought they had to retouch everything and the fps wasn't stable on gamecube either (nor on PC). Dreamcast the better version to me personal
Dreamcast is better, but at least GameCube isn't PC, the PC version sucks so bad
@@BurritoGaming te veo en todos lados xd
Completely prefer DC version.
Why?
@@Bjoern020184 It has cooler models but it's more buggy
@@Reverse_Spider_Parker_SH in fact, the dx version has a lot more bugs and glitches than the dreamcast version
@@SetSaturnST
The glitches in the dx version are easy to avoid
While Dreamcast version drops fps
@@Reverse_Spider_Parker_SH FPS drops in the DC version are rare while it happens frequently in the GC version
Dreamcast version will always be the best way to play Sonic Adventure games. The controller was specifically designed for this game. That and the graphical changes are a bit weird. This game didn't need a makeover! It was already LEGENDARY and PERFECT on the GREATEST VIDEO GAME CONSOLE of all Time!
Dreamcast version all the way!
gc was better
Anthony Barnes It may be, but the gc version felt raw, the dc version has better textures. DC mustard race!
Harman Ch I like the dreamcast light but I like gc better probably because I grew up playing Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic Heroes on it
Anthony Barnes I bet you had fun as a child.
nah m8, I need mah 60 fps
The Dreamcast version looks way better than the DX version. Not to mention it's not as buggy as the DX version.
Dreamcast version wins, but tbf there are 2 versions of the Dreamcast version, but the 1st buggy version is only available in Japan and the 2nd version "Sonic Adventure International" is the version we all were given in the west.
DC= mostly better textures and mostly better lighting, I say mostly because there are a few things that are improved on DX while everything else is either removed or simplified
@ Alister, they removed stuff to try to reach 60fps while also having difficulty porting certain effects because of how the DC does things
dream cast is actually way powerful cuz sonic adventure 2 ran at 720p on the dreamcast
Xcalibur64 iI liked Adventure 2 better cuz it’s more flushed-out in terms of gameplay physics.
Since I've only played the GameCube version, I have no problem with the characters being shiny, and with that in mind, I also prefer the way the models look in that version better overall in terms of size, shape, and colors
I know alot of Sega Dreamcast owners hate DX, - but as a Sega fan I appreciate what Sonic team were going for in both versions. Sonic team were aiming for more wholesale makeover on GCN to bring it in line with the SA2 aesthetic but it was likely pushed out the door by Sega, as remember they were still trying to stay afloat.
No cabe la comparacion, no estamos hablando de una misma version que haya salido para ambos sistemas al mismo tiempo sino justo lo contrario, estamos comparando el original de 1998 con la remasterizacion hecha en 2003, hay mucha diferencia de tiempo y de tecnologias que se usaron para uno y otro momento, no es una comparacion justa incluso cuando ambas versiones fueron hechas por SEGA, ergo tampoco es la tipica rivalidad de comparar juegos de Third Parties lanzados en un mismo momento tanto para Sega como para Nintendo, sino del caso opuesto, un juego que la propia Sega volvió a relanzar haciendole una remasterizacion digital.
por que en reicast el juego va a 60fps?
A pesar de que las versiones de gc/pc/steam/ps3/x360 tengan mejor modelado, texturas y 60fps sigo prefiriendo la versión original de dreamcast. Tiene efectos de sombras, mejor calidad de sonido, aunque vaya a 30fps son estables (no como el horrible port despues con 60 fps y bajones de 20fps sobre todo con la versión de pc)y yo creo que la ventaja que tiene sobre las versiones posteriores (y es más que notorio) es que es muy estable y no tiene tantos glitches ni bugs. Por eso prefiero la versión de dreamcast
Te recomiendo que veas el video de James Blood sobre Sonic Adventure DX (y si sabes mucho del tema probablemente ya lo hayas visto o encontrado)
Either platform, this game is the best. I remember me and my brother coming home from school to play this.
The yellow dude looks like having fun with the air.
Aw man, I have an attachment with both versions since I had both when I was a kid. But I've had the gamecube version alot longer since I still have it till this day.
Playing this on the GC is like playing Zelda on a DC. It's weird.
Or Halo 1 on N64?
If Wind Waker was on the Dream Cast it would have sold twice as much. I think Sega was thinking too big.
@@zeaferjones1404 They had zero coordination. SEGA JP and Sega Us werent working together and that's what lead to their fall. If they went from Sega Genesis to Saturn and released the Saturn when they originally said they would then we'd still have Sega consoles till this day.
The gamecube has smoother models and shorter load times.
+Vinny LT Sadly it's glitchy.
***** Yeah I know it's not that bad, but it still introduces new glitches.
***** The original release in Japan, it's a bit unpolished.
Not Sonic 06 but still.
+Sending Postcards From A Plane Crash i experienced that before...
But the DC has better lighting, water effects and textures.
Nice comparison!
It blew my mind when I learned that Sonic Adventure were Dreamcast games originally. The Dreamcast was so obscure in my personal sphere I never even knew about it until a decade later, so I grew up with and loved the Gamecube versions.
Dreamcast Wins !
no gamecube wins
@ it's his opinion,shut the f up
To be honest, I’m not sure which version I prefer. I grew up with the GameCube version but also enjoyed the Dreamcast version just as much. And while I do prefer some things over the other in both versions, I feel that they are both great! (Despite what some people think) however, I think I may prefer the DC version a bit more. But I still like the GC version because it’s what I grew up with. To put it into perspective, I think that both versions are great!
4 characters got a huge facelift, 1 got slight polish (Big, his hands are now more detailed and have separate fingers along with a much smoother model for the hands)
AWESOME SONIC ADVENTURE 1998 (DREAMCAST VS GAMECUBE ) SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON !!!!!
I hate how all the characters look like shiny plastic in the gamecube version
Cuenta hackeada por mario exe tu Dios te jode its really unnecessary.
El diseño de los personajes en Dreamcast es mucho más bello y recuerda al antiguo Sonic. En GameCube está ese diseño plástico y horrible del Sonic moderno que practicamente acabó con el sentimiento que despertaba el personaje.
I like them both, like each one has what the other lacks, like the Dreamcast version has dorky 3D models, but a better lighting engine, so how well would the GameCube version fare with the Dreamcast lighting?
Uma dúvida: o Dreamcast tem um AA melhor que o do GameCube?
The gamecube/PC version is slightly more refined (and the PC version has several mods dedicated to improving it's performance). However it's missing loads of small little effects that gave the Dreamcast version more atmosphere. Loads of ambient sound effects and dynamic lighting effects throughout the game are absent (compare the Final Egg base in both versions for example, especially during Gamma's intro, way darker and creepier in the Dreamcast version).
i can't believe no one mentioned the huge improvement of knuckles from the DC to the NGC
He looks skinny in the GC
@@Overlord_Henry which is more true to him i believe
there is a reason on PC there is a dreamcast "restoration" mod
the original graphics may have not been higher technically but they have some stylistic choices that hold up better
I think what shadows
PC version doesn't has the lantern engine, which was the light system of the original version, therefore it doesn't has a proper light system and it looks weird.
i feel more nostalgia with GC because it was my first game.EVER.
As duas são bonitas, mas a do GameCube tem mais brilho, mais detalhes nos gráficos e os cenários constroem bem menos que a versão do Dreamcast. Eu diria que o do Game Cube de forma geral saiu melhor, porém a do Dreamcast foi muito mais nostálgica, pois foi a primeira versão 3D do Sonic que apareceu em console.
dreamcast had it better
no gamecube is better
I guess it might be due to the camera perspective here but I honestly couldnt tell if the GC one was at 60 frames based on this stage, it's way easier to tell these thing in a game with fixed camera or sidescrolling one. I guess maybe the speed at which everything goes makes it a bit difficult to really draw a comparison. Both versions are good either way.
+Nikodem R They should have used cutscenes. If you watch a cutscene in 30fps and then the same one in 60fps you will notice a difference.
+jacoblgames The cutscenes remain at 30fps on all versions of the game however (in fairness it's the worst of their problems).
Lol I remember one of the things bugged me about the DX version was that they somehow messed up the ring sound effects.
I dont know why but i like dreamcast graphics more :)
They are much better lighting wise
@@noaht2005 True!
In sonic adventure the sonic team actually took real life photos to make it look more realistic
no i like gamecube graphics more :)
@ we don't care
DX aged way more poorly than the Dreamcast version.
It's amazing what Sonic Team pulled off with the original DC version. It was designed with only estimated specs of the final hardware. They played it safe and designed the engine around those specs, not even fully optimized for the final DC design, but the DC handles it like a champ. The engine itself probably could not have handled 60fps even on a DC even though there is enough extra power there, and I blame the engine for that poor performance on the Gamecube as well. I think there is just so much power behind the 360/PS3 that it just powers through the issues with brute force (sort of like how Xbox emulation works on Xbone). I like the textures of the DC version much better than the GC version, however, I like the new baked in lighting/shadows that they put in on the level textures, it makes it come to life more than before. The SA2 engine was much better designed, as Sonic Team was already quite used to the DC hardware by then, and thanks to the similarity in GC hardware and much less being updated in comparison to the SADX port, it turned out much better. I argue that a poor engine not fully optimized to the DC final hardware is why Shenmue doesn't look as good as it should either, like the high res models in the prologue disc that were made much later in development. AM2 projected the DC to have 8MB RAM while the final was 16MB, the Shenmue engine was designed around that, and unfortunately Shenmue II shares the same engine, although much better optimized, it's not designed with the final DC hardware in mind.
both look very good over all. I think i like the water effects and cooler colour pallet on the DC but it ma just be because that how i remember it should be. I think i would call this one a dead heat.
gamecube looks shinier
3:43 Sonic face Glitch on Dreamcast Version
Lol no, he just looking on animals
as a late 90s baby, i didnt have the benefit of having a dreamcast, so i grew up on the gamecube versiob heavily. now watching this, I prefer the 1999 version of the game. still great but I love nostalgia
The Gamecube version seems to have a lot more shadows in areas that should have them that are absent in the Dreamcast version
Aw Sonic looked so small in the Dreamcast version. He's so adoreable.
Ikr
You gotta admit that the Dreamcast was an damn powerful console. The fact that they couldn’t port Sonic Adventure to the PS2 says everything.
It's not that they couldn't, they just didn't. Xbox was way more powerful than any console of that era yet that didn't get it either.
Not just a power thing. The ps1 was 10x weaker than the Saturn and the Saturn has some of the worst multi-platform games of that generation. It was definitely just a decision not to
Its like comparing Half Life 1 with the low definition models, while comparing Half Life 1 (PS2 or Source) with the HD models
I hate when they do too much when enhancing the graphics. All people really want is the same exact look with better graphics with refinements neccessary to enhance the designs or over all look at best.
The Gamecube version lets you skip cutscenes. If you don't believe me, you can watch ExoParadigmGamer's ROR on SA1 and SA2, which also shows that most, if not all the glitches have to be done on purpose. And while the GCN and PSN versions do have more glitches, there's still a glitch that is in the DC version so none of the 3 versions are glitch-free.
Achei melhor do GameCube e PC por causa de ser mais rápido e bem feita também o sapato do Sonic mais bonito
Até pq o GameCube é mais novo que o Dreamcast :/
Definitivamente Dreamcast. Quizás se vea más rápido el juego en Gamecube pero me parece mucho mejor en texturas la Dreamcast.
A pesar de que las texturas de DX se no se vean tan mal y se ven mas parecidas a los demas juegos de Sonic como Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes, Sonic Colors y Sonic Lost World, se pierde ese realismo que tal vez hacia especial al juego original y diferente a otros juegos anteriores y posteriores. pero almenos la versión DX cumple con ser un buen juego de todos modos, agregar contenido extra y entrener al jugador. Yo lo probe en Xbox 360 y me gusto bastante el juego pero por lo que e visto pienso comprar un Dreamcast para probar la versión original para ver como es.
I dont get a game based on how the graphics are better in different systems but it interests me the differences in which personally looks better and how the hardware can run that
I remember playing this on the dreamcast
La verdad esque hay poca diferencia,lo que no entiendo es porque pone 30 fps dreamcast ...?cuando este juego en Dreamcast va a 60..?¿un saludo buen video
se le puede ingresar un codigo para que corra a 60fps en el dreamcast, inclusive widescreen con otro.
Maybe the Gamecube looks slightly better, mor of a shiney look to Sonic and less squar looking shoes?
+Micah Lall-Trail (Mijkah) Hey i agree too
Dreamcasts' character textures look more appopriate and I prefer the models too (stockier/ rounder), although the environment looks higher quality and more vivid in DX.
Not Final Egg, tho.
Weird. I sort of like the brighter colors better in the Gamecube version but the lighting is abysmal. Which is even weirder because it looks like DX has shadows for static objects. But the colors aren't worth a damn because the textures don't have any smoothing. It really looks like the DC one is utilizing some kind of native post-processing shader that really makes everything look so much smoother and easier to look at. DX on Gamecube was how I played Sonic Adventure back in the day, but I really wanted a Dreamcast in '99 and I _really_ wanted Sonic Adventure.
the Dreamcast versions had a better more rich lighting system and luscious looking textures and ran at a very high resolution for the time whilst maintaining 60fps where as the Gamecube version and all the ports that followed used a simple lighting system dull textures and ran at an average resolution at 30fps the Dreamcast was definitely ahead of it's time
No is correct
I never realized this until now, but the DC version had a pretty shitty draw distance. Look at all the stuff just appearing out of nowhere. That being said, I'm surprised the GC has it as well, just not as bad. The GC's processor was more than twice as fast as the DC's, but somehow it still had some pop-up. Does it have to do with the higer-resolution models and/or the higher framerate?
ShortFingeredShreder the game runs 60 fps on gamecube
Geez, the character models in the Gamecube Version look like the character models were dipped in glaze. I have the Gamecube version of this game, I brought it because I was so bothered by the 30 FPS in the Dreamcast Version.
what cables does he use
I played DX growing up so im going with DX
Great :)
I prefer gamecube.
WHAT!????????????????????????????????????WHY!?
same
Water looks way better on GCN but the brighter colors of DC really help it pull ahead
The shaders for the Dreamcast version of the game are much smoother and less cel-shaded compared to the DX version. if you want a great experience, check out the Dreamcast Conversion mod.
Dreamcast versión!!
The Dreamcast has dolphins jumping at the end . Dreamcast period !
Did he ever do this with SA2
At least they increased the geometry, I mean on Dreamcast, they basically had mittens that had finger textures, and on Gamecube, their fingers have proper geometry.
However, not all of the character models were changed. When Sonic goes into a ball, he changes back into his SA1 model. Amy does the same when captured by Zero.
@@ChiefMedicPururu oh ok
@__ There are A LOT of problems with DX. And it ain't just on Gamecube.
Sega Dreamcast wins.
Where's Sega's new system?
Katzelle3
Sega bankrupt so it cant do consoles now :C
Chromeno
So, Dreamcast didn't win?
Katzelle3 The game is better than the GC version in my opinion
Dilan
Obviously, we can't blame any of that on the Gamecube's technical limitations, so there must have been a lack of effort on Sega's part.
The characters on GC look slightly different from the dreamcast and the GC looks slightly more polished and the draw distance is better as well
gc may have better models but as far as stage graphics go the floor textures, lighting just look far better on dreamcast not to mention less glitches like the loop glitch on emerald coast which is only on dx, that and the frame rate while lower on dc is far more stable, another thing dc got right is that the model textures represent fur where ad dx just makes them look all shiny.
gostei do seu canal, vc pegou o mesmo esquema do canal Gaming Palooza Empire, eu gosto dessas comparações, acho bacana...da pra perceber que depende mais dos jogos do que dos consoles...
I never played the DC version. When I was a kid, I thought the GC version was awesome.
I have to give my victory to the Dreamcast
The Dreamcast was an exceptional machine for its time! Wonderful games, console design and revolutionary concepts.
0:28 there are diferences in models, look at knucles's shoes, GC has more polygons, of course DX version has this weird plastic glow effect but there is another point about light, there are more shadows and it's more accurate in GC version.
EAST OR WEST, DREAMCAST IS THE BEST!
@ no it's not
@@David-zr5gh yes it's
@@David-zr5gh yes
Gamecube version looks a lot better and runs at 60 fps instead of the dreamcasts 30 fps. Only problem with the GC version is the glossy characters.
Dreamcast's models are also glossy.
Also additional bugs
No it doesn't. GC version looks much worse overall especially the lighting. Only the character models were improved and even then the NPCs besides Tikal and Eggman still use their DC models so it looks awkward. GC port also frequently dips to 30 fps and sometimes even below that. Very lazy port.
@@the757general2 you're right. Idk what i was smoking when i typed this comment LOL.
Could someone make compare video (DC/NGC) of the Lost World stage of this game? There are the most visual differences...
That would be nice. I agree, the differences in that stage are much more noticeable, especially in the first part of Act 2 (the mirror segment). In the PC version the lighting is so terrible I can get through without lighting the mirrors. XD
When it comes to the models and the environments, the DX version is better but the lighting and texture are better in the Dreamcast version as the characters don’t look like plastic action figures
Dreamcast: Shadow effect, better lighting, 30fps locked, without glitches or bugs, better sound effect.
Gamecube (and rest): Better models and textures, 60fps (but unstable) and the addition of game's from Sega game gear
So the winner is DREAMCAST (really, at least dc version doesnt have glitches like gc)
If you are including PC in that you are definitely mistaken, the betterSADX mod essentially fixed all the terrible glitches/bugs that plagued the GC AND mods have already been made to revert the lighting/textures to DC with someone currently working on a mod to revert the sound effects as well.
Oh and not to mention the controls and camera with the betterSADX mod ACTUALLY make sense. Something neither of those versions could get right back then.
LCmedel a mod
doesnt count
The lighting is way better on DC, the GC lighting makes the models look too shiny.
LMC1996 Glitches? Like what? Where is any proof other then the loop thing? I don't think the GC version should be known for it's glitches. And you have to go out of your way to make the "glitch" happen.
Old-Pataxu 3DS It isn't hard not falling off. Hold up the Analog Stick! It is that easy. The DC version has more glitches then the GC one. I spindash to a wall, i fall through the floor. Sonic's eye is like a slotmachine in the DC version. More camera issues in the DC version. The GC version only has collision detection issues in small areas and small pieces of the level. But you can skip these issues by holding up on the Analog Stick, which is what you are supposed to do.
Gc runs at 60 fps and dc runs at 30. I think we know who the winner is.
they run the same in my vision
Frame rate equals fluidity, not graphics.
maybe he recorded at 30fps
Why would he record one game-play at 30 fps and the other at 60? That wouldn't be fair. So the dreamcast version probably runs at 30 fps.
fps alone doesn't determine a winner. dc still wins due to better lighting and animation.
The gamecube version definitely has more graphical fidelity but I'd say the Dreamcast version had a much stronger and more realized art direction with its colors and textures. And I say that as someone who exclusively grew up with the gamecube version.
That mouth of the Sonic model tho.