Been waiting for this review ever since I dropped the comment about the milwaukee coming. Appericate you posting this and look forward to the endurance test. Thanks
Thanks for the experience. Amazing results! It is clear that companies do not stop and are moving forward in the development of fast, powerful saws and energy-intensive and durable batteries. And this is only with 0.325 size chains. With 3/8 1.3mm groove full chisel chains like PS stihl the results will be even better (where modification is possible). Milwaukee has the feeling that the chain speed sounds more than 25 m/s.
@Tihiroprjckuh9000 The Milwaukee is only 14.3 m/s, but it delivers a lot of torque. Milwaukee says 9.5 Nm. What is unfortunate, is that the drive system is fairly unique and it will take some work to get it to accept a 3/8 chain. The bar is a standard Husqvarna small mount (K095 I think), but the drive is 7 tooth geared. I'll put out a little video on it soon.
Great first test, the Milwaukee certainly looks comparable to the other two. No idea why your 82CS34 struggles more than mine, even at full bar length in hardwood mine doesn’t stall, its just an unstoppable beast. :) Maybe you're pushing harder. Can always use more power, tho, so i confess some envy of that 8Ah 82V battery, at $495 per, I'm not able to run out and buy some.
@BenDiscoe I know, I always try to bundle. I got a self powered mower with the 8ah battery and it was on sale for $6xx (I can't remember the exact price) so even though I actually paid more it felt like I was getting a lot more.
GW 60V is the same way, i.e. 8.0Ah battery really wakes it up. I not only use the 4.0s for smaller jobs (fewer cuts) but also thinner logs due to the power difference.
@@ToolHombre 100% I am hoping the new core series batteries will allow the saw to get the power it needs with a lighter weight battery when they come out. Maybe even get more power from the saws.
My older 14 inch - 40 volt greenworks chainsaw, is only rated at 1.5 HP = 1.1 KW in power. ..and ive used it for years and been happy with it. If I upgrade to the 80 volt- 18 inch 2.5 - 2.7 KW version, Ill probably be very happy. I only cut firewood for winter heating, so I would not need 3-5 kw of power .
I've been waiting to be able to do this comparison for long time. The Milwaukee saw was originally supposed to be released in August. I think the next 2 significant events for these saws will be Greenworks release of their 5.8hp saw (along with tabless/pouch batteries) and Ego developing tabless/pouch batteries.
@reusefull we discussed torque a long time ago. And I can kinda understand that. But the CSX5000 is a very powerful saw, PLUS I can't see how the Milwaukee can overcome the 5000's 30 m/s chain speed. I DO see, however, that torque has a LOT to do with it. So even if the 5000 had a flawless run; it still might not beat the Milwaukee's times. I believe it would be closer though. Please understand I'm whining because I've got over 1600.00 invested in my CSX5000 project, and am having trouble facing reality 😅
@John-cj3ve these saws will leapfrog each other in perpetuity, I wish I could measure the actual speed of the chain while it is cutting because the Milwaukee doesn't feel a lot slower like you would think. I'm hoping to get some more testing in this weekend. I think the CSX5000 will really shine when those tabless batteries come out because then it will have the whole package and be a bit lighter.
It baffles me why Ego has not released an upgraded tabless battery line similar to Milwaukee’s Forge. If they did, it sure would be expensive though in 56v.
So at the tool expo 2024, one of the guys at Ego was talking about a new battery technology Ego was working on. One of those things included a 70AH battery for their commercial series mowers.
Crucial in the battle of saws is a guide bar and an aggressively profiled chain. I noticed that it is easier for saws to work with a low-profile logosol type chain. The 0.325 size slowed down the speed of longitudinal wood processing.
Very interesting comparison. The Milwaukee is being upgraded to 70cc. The next 4300w Greenworks is coming out soon and it's going to be something else.
I think the 82CS34 will be improved as well as the saw that comes out because of the increased output and decreased weight of the core series batteries that go with the saw they will hopefully eventually release.
Greenworks must be having a great deal of developmental difficulty with their H.O.G. saw. It's been promised for over a year now, and it's still a no-show.
Have you compared the Ego with 10.0 vs 12.0 batteries in terms of power and overheating? The 10.0 might have less run time but the 2500mA cells inside it are supposed to have a higher discharge rate and run cooler than the 3000mA cells inside the 12.0. Maybe do a quick video on it.
I did try the8, 10 and 12. The 10 claims to be able to support an 80 amp discharge rate vs 60 for the 8 and 12, but I didn't see a difference in performance or time until overheating.
In my country (Russia) in 2023, a greenworks v82 cost me, and on Black Friday $210 plus 3 8ah batteries (on sale) $275, $280 and $290. Total $1055 without consumables (chains, oil, etc.). If you have very expensive wood in stores, it is more profitable to make the board or timber yourself.
I have a portable mill. I haven't had time to try it out yet, but it's on the horizon. Your work with the Greenworks has been inspirational, thank you 👍
@@reusefullI'm glad. Based on your videos at that time, a saw that was more suitable for the job was chosen, since the price of the stihl msa 300 was prohibitively high. Prosperity to your channel.
I could not create a link. I live near where they are made and bought them directly from the Windy Ridge Corporation. It is the Frostbite .325 .050 78dl (20 inch) chain. Oregon makes a good full chisel 20LGX078G, but it is not a low kickback chain, so use with caution!
I dont care for the Green Works battery sticking up high like it does. The EGO looked to me like the best battery placement on saw, but then if I was into Milwaukee tools, those 2 smaller Milwaukee batteries could be handy if they fit other Milwaukee tools like circular saw or hand grinder. So far I'm still leaning towards EGO.....
Ok that's better with same style of chains on all.. but* didn't say the price of the ego either commercial kit should still be cheaper than the other 2. So good note to consider for ppl going to buy. And eager for more video's when the 12ah's you* think are broken in. But* man their kit should come with the 12's in my opinion. Especially for the price.(?)
@@johnkrisovitch69 I agree. Everyone wants to present the lightest package, even if the performance suffers. I'm guessing they'll be a big difference between the 8ah and 12ah batteries in the endurance test. I put the prices up on the last 30 seconds of the video.
I would like to have seen the times on a test run of the CSX5000 WITHOUT it 'stuttering'. I think the stuttering/stalling slowed it's times down quite a bit.
@shanepipkin4041 Huskys biggest is 18 inches. It's a nice saw and good to use, but not as powerful as these. I did a comparison with the Husky, Echo and a smaller Greenworks.
When I seen how lightweight the 20" echo, hell it will hold a 24 inch blade, I wouldn't even consider any battery chainsaw. I mean I started cutting wood in the 70s with Grandpa's old Homelite and Poulan. I could barely lift those things off the ground. The newer gas chainsaws are crazy lightweight! The problem with those battery power chainsaws , the gas chainsaws sold today are a hell of a deal, and they last a long time. That's the problem with some devices, about the time make the product perfect, they want you to change over to something else. Screw that shit.
The new 2025 greenworks 5.8 hp is gonna cost around $700-$800. IMHO...those types of prices are way to high to allow the product to be big sellers. Would you agree, that for most consumers , a new battery driven chainsaw package deal, that can run a max of 16-18 inch bar and achieve 2.5-3.5 KW of power, for a price of $300 or less , is about the best situation ? I have doubts that 5-6 hp rated battery chainsaws that cost $ 800 , will even appeal to pro arborists, considering that the battery alone would probably cost $400 , when it comes time to replace it, or buy extras for working on the jobsite....and I really doubt that most middle class consumers would purchase it. I heat with wood for last 18 years, and a dependable 2.5-3.5 KW battery chainsaw for $300 or less is all I need. I actually have the older version greenworks saws that were 14 inch brushless, and use the 40 volt - 4 AH battery and they work well even though they are not nearly as powerful or fast as the newer models.
@davehimlin I think that they won't be able to really sell to pros in big numbers until you can get more power with less weight than what's currently available. When there's a real advantage of a tool, price becomes less of an object, especially to professionals, but I agree, it's kind of a weird middle space right now while the technology is still developing. I think the best deal right now is either the Greenworks 60v 20inch chainsaw kit or the Ego CS2000 - $450 or $499 unless you can catch them on sale (which I have)... I got the 60v 20 inch Greenworks with an 8ah battery and a charger for $375... best deal going on my opinion. And the performance of both of those saws is solid... better than than pro version in a way because they aren't taxing everything to the max. I like the most powerful version of the Greenworks because it works really well for what I do. The fact that it can pull a 24 inch bar easily really makes it attractive for my particular uses, and the battery technology works really well for me because I have switched with everything possible. I don't typically represent a very large demographic though, so I can't say what works for other people.
@@reusefull Right now, the greenworks 2.5 KW...80 volt, with 4 ah battery/charger can be bought for around $279 + tax. It supposedly compares to a 50 cc gas saw. Buying any of these 80 volt/ 60 volt saws in a kit, that only comes with 2 AH battery, is probably not a great decision, unless the buyer has 4 AH batteries already. My older 40 volt- 14 inch greenworks with brushless motor, probably only has about a 1.2 KW power rating.....so if I purchase the 2.5 KW- 80 volt, it would be a big step up in power and performance.
@@reusefull Ive read that greenworks customer service, when dealing with warranty issues, is a nightmare. I wonder if EGO has better warranty service ?
@davehimlin I've heard good things about Ego's customer service and I do like the fact that all parts are available for their saws so that they are fixable. I've warrantied a few things with Greenworks without issue. I warrantied a chainsaw with a 2 year warranty at 1 year 11 months with no problem.
Been waiting for this review ever since I dropped the comment about the milwaukee coming. Appericate you posting this and look forward to the endurance test. Thanks
Awesome video, thanks!
The big one for me is going to be the endurance test. Looking forward to seeing how the forges go with that!
@@CA34562 me too!
@@CA34562 I've already seen an endurance test elsewhere. It was pretty impressive.
The comparson of my dreams! Thank you! Very interesting and nice to see!👍🏻💪🏼
Hello from Ukraine, you have a very interesting channel but very short videos, thank you very much
Thanks for the experience. Amazing results! It is clear that companies do not stop and are moving forward in the development of fast, powerful saws and energy-intensive and durable batteries. And this is only with 0.325 size chains. With 3/8 1.3mm groove full chisel chains like PS stihl the results will be even better (where modification is possible). Milwaukee has the feeling that the chain speed sounds more than 25 m/s.
@Tihiroprjckuh9000 The Milwaukee is only 14.3 m/s, but it delivers a lot of torque. Milwaukee says 9.5 Nm. What is unfortunate, is that the drive system is fairly unique and it will take some work to get it to accept a 3/8 chain. The bar is a standard Husqvarna small mount (K095 I think), but the drive is 7 tooth geared. I'll put out a little video on it soon.
I cant wait till Milwaukee releases the tool only version of the chainsaw
Great first test, the Milwaukee certainly looks comparable to the other two. No idea why your 82CS34 struggles more than mine, even at full bar length in hardwood mine doesn’t stall, its just an unstoppable beast. :) Maybe you're pushing harder. Can always use more power, tho, so i confess some envy of that 8Ah 82V battery, at $495 per, I'm not able to run out and buy some.
@BenDiscoe I know, I always try to bundle. I got a self powered mower with the 8ah battery and it was on sale for $6xx (I can't remember the exact price) so even though I actually paid more it felt like I was getting a lot more.
GW 60V is the same way, i.e. 8.0Ah battery really wakes it up. I not only use the 4.0s for smaller jobs (fewer cuts) but also thinner logs due to the power difference.
@@ToolHombre 100% I am hoping the new core series batteries will allow the saw to get the power it needs with a lighter weight battery when they come out. Maybe even get more power from the saws.
My older 14 inch - 40 volt greenworks chainsaw, is only rated at 1.5 HP = 1.1 KW in power. ..and ive used it for years and been happy with it. If I upgrade to the 80 volt- 18 inch 2.5 - 2.7 KW version, Ill probably be very happy. I only cut firewood for winter heating, so I would not need 3-5 kw of power .
@davehimlin I think the 80v 18 inch saw with 2 chains a battery and charger and a case is on sale for $299 until the end of today. It's 2.5kw
Wow this is the comparison we all been waiting for nice job! I knew the Milwaukee would do well but damn top of the class! Wow!
I've been waiting to be able to do this comparison for long time. The Milwaukee saw was originally supposed to be released in August. I think the next 2 significant events for these saws will be Greenworks release of their 5.8hp saw (along with tabless/pouch batteries) and Ego developing tabless/pouch batteries.
@khoatran9482 I'd still like to see a timed run for the CSX5000 WITHOUT it stuttering!
The times were so close, I think it would make a difference.
@John-cj3ve I'll do more tests, I was pushing the saws as close to the limit as I could.
@reusefull we discussed torque a long time ago. And I can kinda understand that. But the CSX5000 is a very powerful saw, PLUS I can't see how the Milwaukee can overcome the 5000's 30 m/s chain speed.
I DO see, however, that torque has a LOT to do with it. So even if the 5000 had a flawless run; it still might not beat the Milwaukee's times.
I believe it would be closer though.
Please understand I'm whining because I've got over 1600.00 invested in my CSX5000 project, and am having trouble facing reality 😅
@John-cj3ve these saws will leapfrog each other in perpetuity, I wish I could measure the actual speed of the chain while it is cutting because the Milwaukee doesn't feel a lot slower like you would think. I'm hoping to get some more testing in this weekend. I think the CSX5000 will really shine when those tabless batteries come out because then it will have the whole package and be a bit lighter.
It baffles me why Ego has not released an upgraded tabless battery line similar to Milwaukee’s Forge. If they did, it sure would be expensive though in 56v.
And the CSX5000 would probably trounce the Milwaukee!
So at the tool expo 2024, one of the guys at Ego was talking about a new battery technology Ego was working on. One of those things included a 70AH battery for their commercial series mowers.
It will really change the usability of the CSX5000 when that happens... same for Greenworks.
RYOBI has New 40 VOLT TABLESS CELLS Coming out soon so EGO WILL Be NEXT
@THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY definitely going to see if they make the Ryobi tools I already have perform better like the Forge does with Milwaukee 👍
Crucial in the battle of saws is a guide bar and an aggressively profiled chain. I noticed that it is easier for saws to work with a low-profile logosol type chain. The 0.325 size slowed down the speed of longitudinal wood processing.
Very interesting comparison. The Milwaukee is being upgraded to 70cc. The next 4300w Greenworks is coming out soon and it's going to be something else.
I think the 82CS34 will be improved as well as the saw that comes out because of the increased output and decreased weight of the core series batteries that go with the saw they will hopefully eventually release.
Greenworks must be having a great deal of developmental difficulty with their H.O.G. saw. It's been promised for over a year now, and it's still a no-show.
@@John-cj3ve I actually first saw the 4.3kw saw appear at the 2022 GIS expo... so they're 2 + years of talk without any walk
Have you compared the Ego with 10.0 vs 12.0 batteries in terms of power and overheating? The 10.0 might have less run time but the 2500mA cells inside it are supposed to have a higher discharge rate and run cooler than the 3000mA cells inside the 12.0. Maybe do a quick video on it.
I did try the8, 10 and 12. The 10 claims to be able to support an 80 amp discharge rate vs 60 for the 8 and 12, but I didn't see a difference in performance or time until overheating.
@@reusefull Thanks
In my country (Russia) in 2023, a greenworks v82 cost me, and on Black Friday $210 plus 3 8ah batteries (on sale) $275, $280 and $290. Total $1055 without consumables (chains, oil, etc.). If you have very expensive wood in stores, it is more profitable to make the board or timber yourself.
I have a portable mill. I haven't had time to try it out yet, but it's on the horizon. Your work with the Greenworks has been inspirational, thank you 👍
@@reusefullI'm glad. Based on your videos at that time, a saw that was more suitable for the job was chosen, since the price of the stihl msa 300 was prohibitively high. Prosperity to your channel.
@Tihiroprjckuh9000 I agree. It's still very high... even now, it's still the most expensive saw by a lot. Thank you
What full chisel chain are you using? And do you have a link?
I have the new Milwaukee and would be interested to try it out with a full chisel chain.
I could not create a link. I live near where they are made and bought them directly from the Windy Ridge Corporation. It is the Frostbite .325 .050 78dl (20 inch) chain. Oregon makes a good full chisel 20LGX078G, but it is not a low kickback chain, so use with caution!
I dont care for the Green Works battery sticking up high like it does. The EGO looked to me like the best battery placement on saw, but then if I was into Milwaukee tools, those 2 smaller Milwaukee batteries could be handy if they fit other Milwaukee tools like circular saw or hand grinder. So far I'm still leaning towards EGO.....
I do kinda notice, as others have pointed out, the Milwaukee makes a potentially annoying higher pitched whining noise which the other saws don't.
Milwaukee looks good
Where is the dealt with the 48 volt battery they are fast
Ok that's better with same style of chains on all.. but* didn't say the price of the ego either commercial kit should still be cheaper than the other 2. So good note to consider for ppl going to buy. And eager for more video's when the 12ah's you* think are broken in. But* man their kit should come with the 12's in my opinion. Especially for the price.(?)
@@johnkrisovitch69 I agree. Everyone wants to present the lightest package, even if the performance suffers. I'm guessing they'll be a big difference between the 8ah and 12ah batteries in the endurance test.
I put the prices up on the last 30 seconds of the video.
@reusefull ahhh! Ok gotcha. I mainly listen while at work and re watch later on lol sorry bout that
I would like to have seen the times on a test run of the CSX5000 WITHOUT it 'stuttering'.
I think the stuttering/stalling slowed it's times down quite a bit.
@@johnkrisovitch69 I'm not sure what happened, but the price graph didn't make it to the video. I apologize... I'll add it to the description.
why not husqvarna?
@shanepipkin4041 Huskys biggest is 18 inches. It's a nice saw and good to use, but not as powerful as these. I did a comparison with the Husky, Echo and a smaller Greenworks.
When I seen how lightweight the 20" echo, hell it will hold a 24 inch blade, I wouldn't even consider any battery chainsaw. I mean I started cutting wood in the 70s with Grandpa's old Homelite and Poulan. I could barely lift those things off the ground. The newer gas chainsaws are crazy lightweight!
The problem with those battery power chainsaws
, the gas chainsaws sold today are a hell of a deal, and they last a long time.
That's the problem with some devices, about the time make the product perfect, they want you to change over to something else. Screw that shit.
I bought a new echo cs370 15 years ago for $129.99....it still runs perfect and ive used ti to cut dozens of cords of wood.
The new 2025 greenworks 5.8 hp is gonna cost around $700-$800. IMHO...those types of prices are way to high to allow the product to be big sellers. Would you agree, that for most consumers , a new battery driven chainsaw package deal, that can run a max of 16-18 inch bar and achieve 2.5-3.5 KW of power, for a price of $300 or less , is about the best situation ? I have doubts that 5-6 hp rated battery chainsaws that cost $ 800 , will even appeal to pro arborists, considering that the battery alone would probably cost $400 , when it comes time to replace it, or buy extras for working on the jobsite....and I really doubt that most middle class consumers would purchase it. I heat with wood for last 18 years, and a dependable 2.5-3.5 KW battery chainsaw for $300 or less is all I need. I actually have the older version greenworks saws that were 14 inch brushless, and use the 40 volt - 4 AH battery and they work well even though they are not nearly as powerful or fast as the newer models.
@davehimlin I think that they won't be able to really sell to pros in big numbers until you can get more power with less weight than what's currently available. When there's a real advantage of a tool, price becomes less of an object, especially to professionals, but I agree, it's kind of a weird middle space right now while the technology is still developing. I think the best deal right now is either the Greenworks 60v 20inch chainsaw kit or the Ego CS2000 - $450 or $499 unless you can catch them on sale (which I have)... I got the 60v 20 inch Greenworks with an 8ah battery and a charger for $375... best deal going on my opinion. And the performance of both of those saws is solid... better than than pro version in a way because they aren't taxing everything to the max.
I like the most powerful version of the Greenworks because it works really well for what I do. The fact that it can pull a 24 inch bar easily really makes it attractive for my particular uses, and the battery technology works really well for me because I have switched with everything possible. I don't typically represent a very large demographic though, so I can't say what works for other people.
@@reusefull Have you ran any of these battery saws, thru thick hickory wood ?
@@reusefull Right now, the greenworks 2.5 KW...80 volt, with 4 ah battery/charger can be bought for around $279 + tax. It supposedly compares to a 50 cc gas saw. Buying any of these 80 volt/ 60 volt saws in a kit, that only comes with 2 AH battery, is probably not a great decision, unless the buyer has 4 AH batteries already. My older 40 volt- 14 inch greenworks with brushless motor, probably only has about a 1.2 KW power rating.....so if I purchase the 2.5 KW- 80 volt, it would be a big step up in power and performance.
@@reusefull Ive read that greenworks customer service, when dealing with warranty issues, is a nightmare. I wonder if EGO has better warranty service ?
@davehimlin I've heard good things about Ego's customer service and I do like the fact that all parts are available for their saws so that they are fixable. I've warrantied a few things with Greenworks without issue. I warrantied a chainsaw with a 2 year warranty at 1 year 11 months with no problem.