I got the x9s without doing much research and man, you are on point. You get back as much energy as you put in, if you mess up, you go flying in the air. You can do long smooth turn and then tighten it all the way to slalom turn. Extremely fun if you have enough strength and technique. However, the ski is so narrow under the boot it just doesnt work ubless its frozen groomer. If the shoe is soft, tou just skid without grip, if you put too much angle, your boot will catch snow and that's not a pleasant feeling. Also, the mounting point for the binding is really far back, so doing short sliding turns, or even breaking, ia way harder than on other skiis. And forget about powder skiing - you just sink to the bottom. They are great, but you need another set for after lunch moguls.
Yep, carving weapon is the right term. I’ve got a pair of these skis and they are unbelievable on ice, groomed piste, absolutely flying and great carving, took me a couple of days to figure them out but I think I work them close to their capacity. My last few videos you can see them in action. Thanks for the review
How is it‘s performance on slopes that aren’t groomed perfectly and bumpy or if the snow gets more heavy? You know at afternoon for example. I am from Germany, please excuse my bad englisch…. :)
@@PAyTERiX a bit heavy on legs, they do dig into the snow and make your legs get tired. I do have another pair I use if slushy. I generally travel with both pairs. These skis are absolutely awesome but they require a groomed piste to get the absolute most out of them.
@@PAyTERiX sorry that’s what we call it here in Australia 🇦🇺 Maybe it’s a slang word specific to my country. But I’m sure you figured it out by now that it means a little melted, wet, heavy. You’re very welcome on the feedback part.
I have been skiing on this in Innsbruck where I live, for the last 5 years. This is waterdown racing skiing and it is even qualified for ski-masters. It is not a toy, it requires ability, technique, physical strength and a perfectly groomed piste. I recommend it only as a 2ond or 3rd ski. I personally have this and the Soul 7 for off-piste etc. It will make you a better skier, but it can send you to the hospital also if you are skiing a bit too much on the back.
I ski on a pair of 2020 X9 RS 175 cm. That is the stiffer "Race Stock", version of this ski. The RS is not available as a retail ski. I was only able to find an older 2020 pair. I think they are the perfect "race training ski" for working on your race turn technique skiing while free skiing. You would not really use them in a course because the turn radius is wrong for either SL or GS. But if you are an aggressive technical skier, they are the perfect ski to take free skiing to work on turns and drills. They rip on hard snow.
I also ski the 175 X9 RS. Found them thru a ski shop. Most people don’t know what they are. I ski Masters in Park City. I love these skis! They are very dynamic and require lots of energy to get the most out of them. The 65 waist is one thing a really like. Very fast edge to edge. They are great fun on hard groomers. They handle speed better than SL and still have a great turn radius. They lov to cruise. They are one of my favorite skis. PS you will want a stiff race boot to ski them. They are not for off piste.
I think given the stability and power of the ski, it's okay to go shorter if you're in the middle. This way you get to take full advantage of the pure carving awesomeness of the ski. The 175 might feel like too much at times.
I have been skiing on a pair of Atomic X5 2021 model for the past few seasons. Would you say that this is a huge upgrade? Would I be able to handle them? I cannot call myself an expert skier but I am defienetly above average. What I want to ask if they are friendly with skiers that dont want to take full advantage of their capabilities, or you must be an expert to handle these skis even at a slower pace?
This is a pretty burly ski that top-end skiers will be able to get the most of. I don't think this is the best choice for you--within Atomic, the Q9 or 7 might be a better fit and allow for better progression.
Is Revoshock mich different from the older servotec. Still ski the 2019 model and love them, but always wondered why they moved away from that black servotec stick design so fast.
The Revoshock is certainly sleeker of a design. From a functionality standpoint, it doesn't hook into the binding plate, so it's a lot less connected. It's more made to absorb vibrations rather than provide physical downward force on the ski.
How do you think this compares to the rossignol hero elit mt's? Im going to be a ski instructor in Austria where i'll mostly be teaching kids since its my first season. I don't see myself going off-piste, and if i do i'll be getting some cheap/used powder skis or something. I've also found the Rossignol's to be almost half the price of the redsters if that helps anything.
Hi Niels! Instructor skis are tough. Are these kids beginners? If so, I'd get a cheap twin tip that you don't mind getting stomped on and that you can ski backwards on. If you're doing more technical coaching, the MT likely has a better mix of demo ability and versatility. Save a couple bucks, too. Have fun! SE
@@SkiEssentials Great answer! Everyone (old ski instructors etc) has pretty much recommended the Rossignol's for my situation so far... It's tough I have to admit lol - absolutely in love with the Redsters. Thank you for your advice and great reviews.
@@nielsnielsen9013 i instructed highschoolers in the 90's if i had that job today i'd get something more mellow that turns better at slow speeds. I bet 90% of the ski instructors in europe are on the deacon or supershape
I own a Fischer Progressor 9+ and im fairly happy with it ,but would like a newer ski. I had my first skiing season ever with it last year and got hooked up on the sport. People say that i got the grips of it pretty fast and i am looking to improve by skiing a lot this season. It would be on piste carving skiing mainly. Would you suggest me this ski? I love the look of it and i like that its a dual radius as my old ski. Thanks!
hey do you think its comparable with the s9 redster in small cruves? I am 185m, my s9 choice would be 165cm, now i heard i should go for 175cm with the x9s. But i would like to have good slalom carver, so maybe go for 170cm or 165cm with this? or isnt it a good idea. i prefer the green paint so much, thats why i dont like the red s9.
The main difference is that you can get the X9s in longer lengths. Other than that, in the same sizes, these skis are very similar. I'd go with the 175 in that ski.
@@SkiEssentials but do you think and x9s isnt made for 165cm? so does it loose its performance, cause its made for 175. or should i get same possibiliities with the 165 x9s compare to the s9? i want the paint of x9s but the performance/skills of the s9.
Looking to buy these, i am going to be a ski instructor for the first time and don’t really know what kind of skis to get. What do you reccomend for a ski instructor? and going slow and steady but also really fast because i like to go fast when i have free time.
Instructor skis are tough, because you need something to demonstrate on, but also to stomp around. Are you going to be coaching kids at all? That really changes things, and I recommend lighter twin tips like Atomic Bent 90 or Black Crows Captis for that, but for more technical adult instruction, you do need something with a shorter turn radius and a relatively narrow waist. The X9 would be great in that realm, but you could also wider with something like the Redster Q9.8. Hope that helps! SE
A lot of instructors I see use the Head SuperShape I. Rally's. You can slide around easily at low speed, handle a bit of powder and most importantly put'm up on edge when it's time to show off your carving techniques! These Atomic X9s's would probably be a handful most of them time when teaching beginners.
Thanks for the review! How do these compare with the S9? Obviously the X9S can be used for longer turns, but how does their short turn performance compare?
It doesn't, really. The S9 is such a specialist that it's very difficult for non-slalom skis to compete. That said, it's really difficult to make the S9 do the longer turns, so if you're looking to open it up a bit, it's a big ask of the S9.
I've seen a whole lot of good skiing done on the Atomic. It's still not a real-deal race ski, but it's darn close. I think if you're in the range for a high-end recreational ski, that's the way to go.
HI Erik! Pretty close. I feel that the Laser is a bit more supple while the Redster has more of a race heritage. I'd say the Atomic is the stronger carver of the two, but not by a whole lot. Have fun! SE
My local ski dealer has these in stock and recommended them in the 167cm variant, as I am a very lightweight but tall person... (60kg / 1.87m) He told me its going to be easier to turn, as its more of a slalom length, but as stable when going faster. What do u think about this?
I would think the 175 is a better choice for your stats and application--definitely better for longer turns and faster arcs. The narrow waist width will make great short turns regardless of length, I'd say the 175 sounds like a safer bet for all turn shapes and styles.
Yes, they love the shorter turns and are very responsive. If you are looking for something with a narrow waist and tremendous edge grip on firm snow, look no further. Have fun! SE
I think it's fair to say it feels more locked in than some. Relatively stiff flex pattern, so somewhat hard to bend it into shorter arcs. You can, but takes some strength for sure. You can let it run a little bit, it doesn't hook up on you immediately, but I also think it prefers sticking to a mid-radius, ~15 m turn.
Hey, great video. Looking at investing in a pair but split on making a decision on length. I'm 184cm and 88kg (195lb) expert level. Tossing up between the 175 and 183, Cheers!
I've been finding that on these types of skis, going a bit shorter enhances the performance. These aren't really meant for such long, straight, and fast turns, so you can go to the 175. Generally, I feel that these skis are sturdy enough to be used shorter, but don't let me talk you out of a good time if you know you prefer longer skis!
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I got the x9s without doing much research and man, you are on point. You get back as much energy as you put in, if you mess up, you go flying in the air. You can do long smooth turn and then tighten it all the way to slalom turn. Extremely fun if you have enough strength and technique.
However, the ski is so narrow under the boot it just doesnt work ubless its frozen groomer. If the shoe is soft, tou just skid without grip, if you put too much angle, your boot will catch snow and that's not a pleasant feeling. Also, the mounting point for the binding is really far back, so doing short sliding turns, or even breaking, ia way harder than on other skiis. And forget about powder skiing - you just sink to the bottom.
They are great, but you need another set for after lunch moguls.
Yep, carving weapon is the right term. I’ve got a pair of these skis and they are unbelievable on ice, groomed piste, absolutely flying and great carving, took me a couple of days to figure them out but I think I work them close to their capacity. My last few videos you can see them in action. Thanks for the review
Pretty crazy what type of performance you can get out of skis these days, and the X9 is a prime example of this. Thanks for sharing!
SE
How is it‘s performance on slopes that aren’t groomed perfectly and bumpy or if the snow gets more heavy?
You know at afternoon for example. I am from Germany, please excuse my bad englisch…. :)
@@PAyTERiX a bit heavy on legs, they do dig into the snow and make your legs get tired. I do have another pair I use if slushy. I generally travel with both pairs. These skis are absolutely awesome but they require a groomed piste to get the absolute most out of them.
@@aussiegeekrider thank you for your feedback! :)
Slushy is just a nice word :D
@@PAyTERiX sorry that’s what we call it here in Australia 🇦🇺 Maybe it’s a slang word specific to my country. But I’m sure you figured it out by now that it means a little melted, wet, heavy. You’re very welcome on the feedback part.
Fantastic review, you guys are the best!
Thank you kindly!
I have been skiing on this in Innsbruck where I live, for the last 5 years. This is waterdown racing skiing and it is even qualified for ski-masters. It is not a toy, it requires ability, technique, physical strength and a perfectly groomed piste. I recommend it only as a 2ond or 3rd ski. I personally have this and the Soul 7 for off-piste etc. It will make you a better skier, but it can send you to the hospital also if you are skiing a bit too much on the back.
X9 RS (with pro race plate) model is like Ferrari. Very aggressive and dynamic.
There is also a X9RS of this (other binding + race plate)
I ski on a pair of 2020 X9 RS 175 cm. That is the stiffer "Race Stock", version of this ski. The RS is not available as a retail ski. I was only able to find an older 2020 pair. I think they are the perfect "race training ski" for working on your race turn technique skiing while free skiing. You would not really use them in a course because the turn radius is wrong for either SL or GS. But if you are an aggressive technical skier, they are the perfect ski to take free skiing to work on turns and drills. They rip on hard snow.
It's hard to argue against a real race ski's performance!
I also ski the 175 X9 RS. Found them thru a ski shop. Most people don’t know what they are. I ski Masters in Park City. I love these skis! They are very dynamic and require lots of energy to get the most out of them. The 65 waist is one thing a really like. Very fast edge to edge. They are great fun on hard groomers. They handle speed better than SL and still have a great turn radius. They lov to cruise. They are one of my favorite skis. PS you will want a stiff race boot to ski them. They are not for off piste.
@@Sc7056-s9z yeah....I ski on Nordica Dobermans, 140 stiffness
great video, I'm going to buy these model and I'm 178 cm tall. Which model is better to choose 175 or 167?
I think given the stability and power of the ski, it's okay to go shorter if you're in the middle. This way you get to take full advantage of the pure carving awesomeness of the ski. The 175 might feel like too much at times.
I have been skiing on a pair of Atomic X5 2021 model for the past few seasons. Would you say that this is a huge upgrade? Would I be able to handle them? I cannot call myself an expert skier but I am defienetly above average. What I want to ask if they are friendly with skiers that dont want to take full advantage of their capabilities, or you must be an expert to handle these skis even at a slower pace?
This is a pretty burly ski that top-end skiers will be able to get the most of. I don't think this is the best choice for you--within Atomic, the Q9 or 7 might be a better fit and allow for better progression.
Is Revoshock mich different from the older servotec. Still ski the 2019 model and love them, but always wondered why they moved away from that black servotec stick design so fast.
The Revoshock is certainly sleeker of a design. From a functionality standpoint, it doesn't hook into the binding plate, so it's a lot less connected. It's more made to absorb vibrations rather than provide physical downward force on the ski.
How do you think this compares to the rossignol hero elit mt's? Im going to be a ski instructor in Austria where i'll mostly be teaching kids since its my first season. I don't see myself going off-piste, and if i do i'll be getting some cheap/used powder skis or something. I've also found the Rossignol's to be almost half the price of the redsters if that helps anything.
Hi Niels!
Instructor skis are tough. Are these kids beginners? If so, I'd get a cheap twin tip that you don't mind getting stomped on and that you can ski backwards on. If you're doing more technical coaching, the MT likely has a better mix of demo ability and versatility. Save a couple bucks, too. Have fun!
SE
@@SkiEssentials Great answer! Everyone (old ski instructors etc) has pretty much recommended the Rossignol's for my situation so far... It's tough I have to admit lol - absolutely in love with the Redsters. Thank you for your advice and great reviews.
@@nielsnielsen9013 i instructed highschoolers in the 90's if i had that job today i'd get something more mellow that turns better at slow speeds. I bet 90% of the ski instructors in europe are on the deacon or supershape
I own a Fischer Progressor 9+ and im fairly happy with it ,but would like a newer ski. I had my first skiing season ever with it last year and got hooked up on the sport. People say that i got the grips of it pretty fast and i am looking to improve by skiing a lot this season. It would be on piste carving skiing mainly. Would you suggest me this ski? I love the look of it and i like that its a dual radius as my old ski. Thanks!
They're so incredibly precise and active. If you're on-piste and carving, the X9 is as good as it gets. You will not be disappointed.
SE
@@SkiEssentials so it would be not "too much" of a ski for someone not as experienced? Thank you for your quick and straight answer!
My progressor is also a stiff ski, but I manage to handle it, I guess that would apply to x9 also.
hey do you think its comparable with the s9 redster in small cruves? I am 185m, my s9 choice would be 165cm, now i heard i should go for 175cm with the x9s. But i would like to have good slalom carver, so maybe go for 170cm or 165cm with this? or isnt it a good idea. i prefer the green paint so much, thats why i dont like the red s9.
The main difference is that you can get the X9s in longer lengths. Other than that, in the same sizes, these skis are very similar. I'd go with the 175 in that ski.
@@SkiEssentials but do you think and x9s isnt made for 165cm? so does it loose its performance, cause its made for 175. or should i get same possibiliities with the 165 x9s compare to the s9? i want the paint of x9s but the performance/skills of the s9.
Hey Jeff, would you say the X9 is closer to the Head SuperShape e-speed, or the e-race pro in terms of stiffness?
Probably the Speed. it's race-like but not full-on. That's where the Speed lives in the lineup, and it is still pretty darn stiff.
Looking to buy these, i am going to be a ski instructor for the first time and don’t really know what kind of skis to get. What do you reccomend for a ski instructor? and going slow and steady but also really fast because i like to go fast when i have free time.
Instructor skis are tough, because you need something to demonstrate on, but also to stomp around. Are you going to be coaching kids at all? That really changes things, and I recommend lighter twin tips like Atomic Bent 90 or Black Crows Captis for that, but for more technical adult instruction, you do need something with a shorter turn radius and a relatively narrow waist. The X9 would be great in that realm, but you could also wider with something like the Redster Q9.8. Hope that helps!
SE
Yeah its more technical teaching still kids but also some adults. Thanks!
A lot of instructors I see use the Head SuperShape I. Rally's. You can slide around easily at low speed, handle a bit of powder and most importantly put'm up on edge when it's time to show off your carving techniques! These Atomic X9s's would probably be a handful most of them time when teaching beginners.
Thanks for the review! How do these compare with the S9? Obviously the X9S can be used for longer turns, but how does their short turn performance compare?
It doesn't, really. The S9 is such a specialist that it's very difficult for non-slalom skis to compete. That said, it's really difficult to make the S9 do the longer turns, so if you're looking to open it up a bit, it's a big ask of the S9.
How would you compare the X9 with Fischer RC4 Worldcup CT ? I'm in between those 2 for next season!
I've seen a whole lot of good skiing done on the Atomic. It's still not a real-deal race ski, but it's darn close. I think if you're in the range for a high-end recreational ski, that's the way to go.
@@SkiEssentials I agree, there is a lot of footage of those X9s... not so much of the Fischer. I'll go for the X9! =)
Are there any significant changes/improvements compared to 2022 model?
No changes, same great narrow front side ski. Very quick edge to edge.
This or the Laser WRT ST? With similar waist width and radius for the 175/172 cm. Do you have an opinion on which ski are the strongest carver?
HI Erik!
Pretty close. I feel that the Laser is a bit more supple while the Redster has more of a race heritage. I'd say the Atomic is the stronger carver of the two, but not by a whole lot. Have fun!
SE
@@SkiEssentials Thank you for the clarification
My local ski dealer has these in stock and recommended them in the 167cm variant, as I am a very lightweight but tall person... (60kg / 1.87m) He told me its going to be easier to turn, as its more of a slalom length, but as stable when going faster. What do u think about this?
I would think the 175 is a better choice for your stats and application--definitely better for longer turns and faster arcs. The narrow waist width will make great short turns regardless of length, I'd say the 175 sounds like a safer bet for all turn shapes and styles.
Awesome tool for groomed slopes indeed. My favourite for the Dolomites...
Nice! So fast, right?
@@SkiEssentials rocket power, without the use of real rockets 😁
Would you recommend them as a decent frontside skis (175cm pair)?
Yes, they love the shorter turns and are very responsive. If you are looking for something with a narrow waist and tremendous edge grip on firm snow, look no further. Have fun!
SE
Is this ski 'locked' into a specific radius turn or can you easily vary turn sizes?
I think it's fair to say it feels more locked in than some. Relatively stiff flex pattern, so somewhat hard to bend it into shorter arcs. You can, but takes some strength for sure. You can let it run a little bit, it doesn't hook up on you immediately, but I also think it prefers sticking to a mid-radius, ~15 m turn.
Those Kastle have something similar to this ?
The RX11 SL or GS depending on turn shape and style.
Hey, great video. Looking at investing in a pair but split on making a decision on length. I'm 184cm and 88kg (195lb) expert level. Tossing up between the 175 and 183, Cheers!
I've been finding that on these types of skis, going a bit shorter enhances the performance. These aren't really meant for such long, straight, and fast turns, so you can go to the 175. Generally, I feel that these skis are sturdy enough to be used shorter, but don't let me talk you out of a good time if you know you prefer longer skis!
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has great groomers not always powder