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I love kinnan. Had him for about 5 months. Kinnan is how I found ur channel (I watch literally every video. I love irl content) and it's one of my best decks atm as well. Not as good as my niv parun deck tho. Bcuz that deck is my child and it will one day once money allow probably be my only or at least my first cedh deck bcuz niv the firenind was my first mtg card ever. So obvi he's my fave card, and parun is so dope as well!
@LilyPenguin123, yeah Kinnan is super powerful, I love it. Niv-Mizzet and Kinnan both would be great cEDH deck. I love how Niv-Mizzet Paran pings the table, that makes me want to dust my Niv deck off and upgrade it (it's been almost 2 years since I've upgraded). Also, thanks for the support.
@@vex_mtg yesss, parun is the only deck that I've sorta 'finished' that I consistently upgrade with new cards or just getting more expensive cards haha
Great deckand video I have a kinnan deck myself and love it. Quick idea for a more jankier combo is kinnan basalt of course but then prismite to start producing infinite mana of any color. Activate Kinnan infinite times get all the creatures from your deck on to the battle field. Have one of the creatures be sphinx of magosi and then Activate its ability as much as you want to draw your deck and then play Jace to win
I've wanted to build this commander for quite some time now. I'm going to start saving for the cards now and slowly buy them. Should have it built by 2025 lol.
Hi @TwinPlayzGames, that's awesome to hear! If you get the Eldrazis they very versatile and can go in a lot of decks! Tell me how your deck goes after building it.
Hi @JigsawJoe13, yeah Kinnan is pretty insane in what he does. I believe he would have still been good with any half of his abilities. Thanks for stopping by.
That's correct @Taylor Kempinski, she's a human. But I believe the inclusion was mainly another way to get Basalt Monolith and not actually a Kinnan target.
golos vs Kinnan for big fatties deck in your opinion? thanks for this video! 2:25 minutes in and I am questioning if I wanna go with golos for a new deck I wanna make that was sparked by also the fact that kaalia is just for angels demons and dragons and I want more! I alrdy also have a gishath deck for dinos haha
Hi @streetsurfer24, thanks for checking out my video. I think Golos would be a really good options for big fatties because it gives you access to all 5 colors, so there's no limit on what creatures you want to put in your deck. I would say create a deck list for both and see how it goes before committing to a commander.
I believe Sylvan Library doesn't let you put cards back on top of your deck from your hand, it allows you to rearrange the top. Were you thinking of Jace, the Mind Sculptor or Brainstorm?
I wonder if you ever realized that you can go infinte with tidespout? And why no isochron? It’s a fine card by itself and you have dramatic rev w/ an infinte mana outlet in the command zone. With your deck you do just win once you get infinte mana. You can use your Kogla to bounce E wit over and over then use beast within to kill everyone’s permanents.. oh, you’d need to bounce your kogla over and over to kill off the 3/3’s. Lots of ways to do that though. Maybe drop a Temur sabertooth in the list. It’s also a lot of fun to use reality shift to mill everyone out by bouncing E Wit over and over w temur and kill off a creature w reality shift then kill the manifested creature w reality shift, then kill that creature with reality shift over and over to manifest their decks out of cards. Love love love Kinnan
I have 18 basics in my list, but it's totally up to you. You can add more if you want to go on a budget or shave some off if you want more color consistency or extra utility lands.
Creatures put onto the battlefield with Kinnan ability is not considered casting and so the creatures with the “X” in the mana cost enters with 0 as the “X”. Creatures put onto the battlefield with Kinnan ability cannot be countered too. So, don’t summon creatures with 0/0 Power/Toughness because they’ll just die even if they have an “X” in their mana cost to make them enter the battlefield. Unless they’re a 0/1 with an “X” cost but they’ll just enter with the “X” being a 0 (the creature will just be a 0/1).
Hi @Jose Haya, to be honest, I forgot about it. I just wanted to include as many fatties as I can. It's a great card for the deck, I would recommend including it!
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Update 2023?
I love kinnan. Had him for about 5 months. Kinnan is how I found ur channel (I watch literally every video. I love irl content) and it's one of my best decks atm as well. Not as good as my niv parun deck tho. Bcuz that deck is my child and it will one day once money allow probably be my only or at least my first cedh deck bcuz niv the firenind was my first mtg card ever. So obvi he's my fave card, and parun is so dope as well!
@LilyPenguin123, yeah Kinnan is super powerful, I love it. Niv-Mizzet and Kinnan both would be great cEDH deck. I love how Niv-Mizzet Paran pings the table, that makes me want to dust my Niv deck off and upgrade it (it's been almost 2 years since I've upgraded). Also, thanks for the support.
@@vex_mtg yesss, parun is the only deck that I've sorta 'finished' that I consistently upgrade with new cards or just getting more expensive cards haha
I’m so glad I watched this video... I’ve be holding my deck back wow
Thanks for checking out my video @Eric R. You can never hold back those fatties!
Great deckand video I have a kinnan deck myself and love it. Quick idea for a more jankier combo is kinnan basalt of course but then prismite to start producing infinite mana of any color. Activate Kinnan infinite times get all the creatures from your deck on to the battle field. Have one of the creatures be sphinx of magosi and then Activate its ability as much as you want to draw your deck and then play Jace to win
@Ann Chiarini, that does seem like a janky, yet cool combo. Have you been able to execute this combo
i realize it is quite off topic but do anybody know of a good website to watch new tv shows online ?
love your channel Vex any Update 2023 to this deck.. building Kinnan ?
I would recommend training grounds over Biomancer's familiar :) Thx for the video, i will add dryad arbor to my list ! Didnt think about that one!
I've wanted to build this commander for quite some time now. I'm going to start saving for the cards now and slowly buy them. Should have it built by 2025 lol.
This deck is great! I am buying it!
Hi @TwinPlayzGames, that's awesome to hear! If you get the Eldrazis they very versatile and can go in a lot of decks! Tell me how your deck goes after building it.
@@vex_mtg I will!
I only need 10 more cards
Hows the deck going
Lithoform Engine is great with Kinnan as well
Just built a form of this deck, I said back when I seen it this card is nuts
Hi @JigsawJoe13, yeah Kinnan is pretty insane in what he does. I believe he would have still been good with any half of his abilities. Thanks for stopping by.
Also how about trophy mage searching for that basalt monolith , and if you use tooth and nail you could just win right then and there with thrasios
Trophy Mage would be a good inclusion, I would recommend other tutor targets as well!
Had her in my deck and I definitely whiffed it 90% of the time. She's a human 😭
That's correct @Taylor Kempinski, she's a human. But I believe the inclusion was mainly another way to get Basalt Monolith and not actually a Kinnan target.
would be nice to see you make a deck tech of golos where you include perhaps all 5 + 1 praetors!
Hi @streetsurfer24, that's a neat idea, I'll keep that in mind. I'm hoping they have some Preator lord when the Phyrexians come back.
@@vex_mtg :)
I love your channel
Thanks again @avacynn!
golos vs Kinnan for big fatties deck in your opinion? thanks for this video! 2:25 minutes in and I am questioning if I wanna go with golos for a new deck I wanna make that was sparked by also the fact that kaalia is just for angels demons and dragons and I want more! I alrdy also have a gishath deck for dinos haha
Hi @streetsurfer24, thanks for checking out my video. I think Golos would be a really good options for big fatties because it gives you access to all 5 colors, so there's no limit on what creatures you want to put in your deck. I would say create a deck list for both and see how it goes before committing to a commander.
@@vex_mtg sounds good. thanks!
Also with sylvan library you can put big fatties from your hand on top of your library and spin the wheel
I believe Sylvan Library doesn't let you put cards back on top of your deck from your hand, it allows you to rearrange the top. Were you thinking of Jace, the Mind Sculptor or Brainstorm?
@@vex_mtg my mistake it’s only the cards drawn this turn
Now it's grixis piles that are the best
I wonder if you ever realized that you can go infinte with tidespout?
And why no isochron? It’s a fine card by itself and you have dramatic rev w/ an infinte mana outlet in the command zone.
With your deck you do just win once you get infinte mana. You can use your Kogla to bounce E wit over and over then use beast within to kill everyone’s permanents.. oh, you’d need to bounce your kogla over and over to kill off the 3/3’s. Lots of ways to do that though. Maybe drop a Temur sabertooth in the list. It’s also a lot of fun to use reality shift to mill everyone out by bouncing E Wit over and over w temur and kill off a creature w reality shift then kill the manifested creature w reality shift, then kill that creature with reality shift over and over to manifest their decks out of cards. Love love love Kinnan
So far 38 cards out of 100! And I got the 2 ulamog and blightsteel
@TripleTrouble, haven't heard from you in a while, how's the deck going?
Isochron scepter?
I'm not sure if you mean if I recommend including it. I would only include it in a cEDH deck, gotta make room for those fatties!
Also how many basic lands?
I have 18 basics in my list, but it's totally up to you. You can add more if you want to go on a budget or shave some off if you want more color consistency or extra utility lands.
Do you have a deck list
It's in the description.
What sleeves are you using?
Hi @Dylan Roof, I use the Dragon Shield Classic Blacks - www.amazon.com/Dragon-Shield-Protective-Sleeves-Count/dp/B000UPL914
Using big memey bombs? Gotta go full out. Emrakul, the aeons torn
Hi @Eligner, I would love to run Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, but she is unfortunately banned in EDH.
VEX MTG ah rip. I’m used to playing casual 60 card where we don’t care what you run
VEX MTG at lest you got the other two of the top 3. Ulamog great despoiler and it that betrays
What happens when you use kinnans activate ability and it summons a creature with "X" in the summon cost??
Creatures put onto the battlefield with Kinnan ability is not considered casting and so the creatures with the “X” in the mana cost enters with 0 as the “X”. Creatures put onto the battlefield with Kinnan ability cannot be countered too. So, don’t summon creatures with 0/0 Power/Toughness because they’ll just die even if they have an “X” in their mana cost to make them enter the battlefield. Unless they’re a 0/1 with an “X” cost but they’ll just enter with the “X” being a 0 (the creature will just be a 0/1).
I found the balance its Fangerous
I see what you did there 🤣
no brainstorm?
Hi @Jose Haya, to be honest, I forgot about it. I just wanted to include as many fatties as I can. It's a great card for the deck, I would recommend including it!
@@vex_mtg thanks!
Are you playing youreself without removal rofl
You cheated out like 50 mana worth of cards
That's why Kinnan is an overpowered commander, just does everything and is in the most powerful color pair.
@@vex_mtg you don’t even need infinite mana to scare your opponents!
I'm also a little bit of a degenerate like that, because I do like to cheat out fatties!
This is like a $500 deck huh or more lol