Bas Bites: Krav Maga
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Bas responds to a question about how Krav Maga compares to other MMA training.
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As a professional fighter, one of his favorite tactics was the liver shot (both punch and kick), and he popularized its use in MMA.Rutten is known for his charisma and has capitalized on his celebrity status since retiring from fighting in 1999. He workes as a color commentator in MMA organization WSOF, and every Friday at IMMA at AX.tv , he has appeared in numerous television shows, movies, and video games. He also coaches MMA and has authored several instructional materials.
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I just got promoted to Marauder in Tekken 7, I'm pretty sure I could beat any pro mma fighter in a street fight.
Dawg I'm tekken god prime rank. I can beat fedor, Jon Jones, prime cro crop, prime gsp with one hand tied behind my back
It's all in the reflexes.
U r officially the baddest man on the planet 😂😂😂😂
Bruh stfuuu 😂😂
@@Omega_Weapon15 lmao you stfuuu as well 😂 probably a fat guy whos never trained ever
Me: What's the name of that Israeli martial art again ?
My brother: Jew jitsu
That cracked me up to loud😂
Or it could be Jew do.
C'mon 😅🤣😝
Oh dear, that joke is absolutely unique and has never been said, ever, not even once.
Bas fell prey to the propaganda that Israel “is attacked 24/7“. Actually, Israel is the one attacking others 24/7, especially defenseless Palestinians whose land they steal and occupy. Also, most of their oppression is with high tech weaponry provided by the US. Physical confrontations using Krav Mag are relatively rare. They may beat up a Palestinian the same way George Floyd was beat up by armed cops. Thats not a “fight”, but cowardly oppression against defenseless people.
It's obvious that in the perspective of a MMA fighter, Krav Maga is mainly useful as complement for specific situations against armed or multiple opponents in a street fight. I don't think any reasonable Krav Maga instructor would tell you that Krav Maga prepares average people to handle well trained MMA, Kickboxing or Ju-jutsu fighters. Krav Maga was developed in a time where most people didn't train martial arts and te main goal behind it was to provide a basic form of military MMA training for Israelite soldiers and covert agents. Now it's practiced by average people around the world who are just looking for a simple and efficient form of self-defense against non-trained opponents (which are the majority in most cases). It's efficiency obviously depends on how hard an average person trains it and the quality of its instructor in terms of street awareness, knife/gun fighting, striking and grappling skills. Basically, one can say that the average dedicated Krav Maga student is like a MMA rookie, but more prepared for knife/gun fighting situations and specific street scenarios (fighting inside night clubs with bottles being thrown around, inside a car or a bus, etc).
Conclusion: Comparing Krav Maga with sports MMA is like comparing Economics with Entrepreneurial Management. They're both related and both complement each other.
krav maga taught in shayetet is only gun handle, street fight krav maga is bullshit, not even eye gouging and not even groin striking would be effective against in adrenaline assailant, krav maga is bullshit, krav maga knife defense is bullshit and dangerous because gives false self confidence. I was an armed security guard, I have jewish back ground and embarrassed with this krav maga bullshit.
+YehudaLion This looks very accurate
+andrea all you can do is spam and try to pretend that because you have jewish background and are not in favour of something you think is jewish, so you think what you say must be true and that people should believe you with your identity politics. You can't actually address what people write. I can tell have worked as a security guard, you're thick as a carpet.
@@andreainzaghi7373 so...stick to boxing when someone comes to you with a knife...
YehudaLion the best thing about learning Krav Maga is the aggressive offensive mindset, in my opinion
never heard Bruce Buffer say "this man is a krav maga fighter."
+Ibrahim Khan (Khan6831) just because *you* never heard it doesn't mean there's aren't some out there
+Ibrahim Khan (Khan6831) Cause its not really a martial art.. MMA fighters or boxers could take Krav maga and it wouldn't effect there style .. Its more a set of tactics
+Ibrahim Khan (Khan6831) that's because it's not designed for sport. It's a self-defense system for the street and one that brings in techniques from a multitude of other martial arts. If you use it in it's truest essence, in competition, you'll get disqualified because it isn't bound by rules. And no, you're not going to become batman studying it for a year or 2. Maybe not even after 4 or 5 years of study. Mastering the discipline is the same as mastering any other fighting art or discipline in life, it takes years upon years of practice, consistency, and experience. Probably 10 years atleast. Most likely, it'll be wise to study other forms of fighting to compliment it depending on your own fighting style and unique set of physical attributes...but then again, that applies to any martial art.
+Ibrahim Khan (Khan6831) yeah, mostly because top krav maga guy are in the army and not in a ring... This sport is not made to be fought in a ring. if you fight in pure krav maga you are disqualified in less than a minute x)
Well, it has happened, but they didn't do that well.
I did KM for 10 years, it was pretty cool, BUT, thereafter I went into full contact martial arts, mainly Muay Thai and Kyokushin Karate, and here I learned to become used to actual fighting. These are quite different from KM where you don't really do full contact proper fighting for minutes at a time. In KM we did a form of sparring but it's not a replacement for full on fighting.I suspect some KM clubs in Israel do full contact fights, which is what you want if you are truly to know yourself as a fighter.Without full contact fighting you cannot develop the ability to a) get used to being hit b) get used to staying calm whilst in a tense fight c) truly know how your body needs to move when in a proper fightPeople who have never done full contact will tend to over estimate their abilities. For example a common refrain is to think some super knockout strike will be 100% effective, it wont, you can give some people your best strike and they will shrug it off / avoid it
Well, I tend to think a kick in the balls and an elbow hit in the jow can be quite decisive. And KM is in no way a martial art, just a set of self-defence tools.
I have jewish background and I have been a security guard, krav maga street fight is bullshit, knife defense is bullshit and endanger people giving false confidence. What they teach in shayetet is gun handling krav maga, not bullshit fake street fight.
Yeah you went to a bullshit school. If your Krav Maga school doesn't have a full contact program then you are wasting your time. You can knee pads all day it won't prepare you to deal with someone who has been in real fights. You will get hit and quit the fight most likely.
+Richard Karate has this issue also that some dojos don't do full contact.
I respect your thought about it. But I disagree with you. I for one, have been training Krav Maga for four years now. If someone who is stronger than me and bigger than. Example my uncle, who is a Brown Belt in Judo. When we challenge eachother, seriously hold my own against. Even against all his years of knowledge with Judo, I have only been training Krav Maga for four years, I am an orange belt in Krav Maga. And I can go toe to toe with my uncle.
I trained in both for a while but eventually went into full time MMA training. Krav teaches you the very basics of Boxing, Thai and Jiu Jitsu. Decided just to join an MMA gym and get the proper training from each discipline.
I loved the mindset of Krav Maga like teaching awareness of surroundings and weapons self defence but I think in a straight up fight the MMA fighter takes it all day long.
+Chris Roy Agreed.
+Chris Roy Like you said, Krav Maga is a great starter for people who don't want to fight in competitions and such. It's more of a system based on application of already used techniques that have been developed by other martial arts. You start off learning simple moves to situations that will Most likely happen to you (average joe) if you get attacked by some guy. Higher belt curriculums in Krav teach more advanced techniques such as Judo throws, Ax kicks, Jumping Spinning Back kick. Imi himself never claimed to invent the techniques, merely took from other Arts what looked most applicable to the streets and put them together.
+Chris Roy couldnt have said it better myself, krav maga, like pretty much any other military combative, is intended to teach NON martial artists the basics of fighting and getting away....
+Chris Roy Totally. My background is kickboxing, but just started Krav. Enjoying it. Very efficient and simple compared to BJJ etc.
+rationalmuscle
Garbage compared to BJJ. A BJJ purple belt could go into a Krav Maga school and mop the floor with anybody in there, probably including the instructor.
thing is that a lot of self defence "schools" dont train realisticly.if u dont train full contact or at least 50% nothing is gonna work not even groin kicks or eye gauges.thats why full contact combat sports like muay thai and mma are always gonna be better even if they have restrictions in what u can do
+kappa couldn't agree more. Sport martial arts don't have the street techniques, but like you said, you can't practice eye gauges and groin kicks in full contact anyway, so what's to stop the sports fighter from doing those things to you? He'll be a better fighter from having tested his sports techniques in full contact, and his kick to the groin will hurt just as much.
+kappa Did you even watch the whole video?
brottarnacke yes ofc whats your point?
+kappa Well, from what you wrote, you gave the impression that you think Krav Maga is devoid of full contact training, but like Bas hinted in the video, it is not.
brottarnacke its a general observation. for example i was doing wing chun and we dindnt do any sparring at all.2 years and i didnt learn how to fight at all.then i joined a thai boxing gym and learned how to fight in 3 months.10 times better
Certainly depends on the quality of the Krav Maga training. Just like other styles, some trainers will just slap the latest fad label on their style and charge you for substandard training.
That just like saying Wing Chun is useful if you have the right trainer and not a single Wing Chun guy can tell you who a great trainer is. BJJ was designed to deal with street fighting and it can be complimented with good boxing or Muay Thai. Krav Maga is essentially useless.
@@mrt445 Krav Maga is definitely useless but bjj is useless without wrestling or judo. If you can't get the fight to the ground there are only so many ways to avoid the inevitable. There is no one style that can handle anything. There are only pragmatic fundamentals that can be taken from each style. Krav Maga of course isn't one of those styles. Bjj obviously is but by itself it invites a plethora of strikes with no alternative to getting a concussion. The flying arm bar, standing guillotine , and rear naked choke are the only skills that seem to work standing up. Pulling guard isn't exactly ideal so most bjj schools have adopted sweeps and throws from judo to implement there bjj.
@@kain7513 Everyone is mixing martial arts these days and with BJJ you only need a small amount of wrestling or Judo, which is now a compulsory part of BJJ, personally I think Roman Greco and BJJ are the best mix. Krav Maga is completely useless, you can't mix it with anything because it's essentially useless by itself.
@@mrt445 Agreed! You only need so much wrestling or judo if your bjj is good enough. As for krav maga ... useless is putting it generously. It's the perfect style for a steven seagal fan that has never and will never fight anyone. At least with words you can hurt someone's feelings but krav maga can't even do that.
Bas is the best mind in MMA and Martial Arts.. a real pleasure to watch. Top man
Best answer I've heard anyone give about Krav or any other self defense oriented system. Train the self defense techniques, then gear up and use the sport methods to spar it.
I often get asked what the difference is between MMA and Krav Maga. I usually respond: "You know everything that's illegal to do in MMA? That's what we do".
+Bill Clark Sounds like what a Typical KravMaga instructor would say to impress the idiots.
he is right though, but you should practice MMA aswell for the basics and full contact sparring
MMA's illegal doesn't count for much in MMA. And even then stuff like eye poke, your opponent gets five minutes to recover
Lol bullshit! All your illegal stuff you still need to close the gap. A one two combination will quickly put you to sleep.
it makes sense. Israel is surrounded by psycho countries who are hell bent on its destruction. they're not going to play nice or fair.
I always feel that people who say 'MMA guys would beat Krav guys' are kind of missing the point. I mean, of course they would.
Krav is mainly meant to get yourself out of a dangerous situation, either by de-escalating the situation or by countering an attack and then getting the hell out of there after throwing at most three punches and a kick to create an opening to run. It's not meant to lead to a prolonged fight, and if you do end up in one, you're basically fucked, especially if it's against multiple people.
MMA, by contrast, is meant to be used in prolonged fights. Escaping isn't the object, but defeating your opponent within a specified rule set is. You're always in open combat, and always focused on the one person you're fighting.
If you put practitioners of both in a room and tell them to fight, then probably the person who's always training for just such a situation is going to come out on top.
All of that said, I'd rather not get into a fight with either a well-trained MMA fighter or a well-trained Krav practitioner. Either would demolish me.
Krav is better for most people who work full time and want to avoid the injuries of MMA
Yeah, every yoga teacher I've ever been to told me the same thing. It's bullshit.
Funny thing about this video is the guy Brayson who submitted the question is a Krav instructor now with a thriving gym in Spokane
In Washington?
This guy is one of the most valuable fighters in the world.
MMA as used in the American context refers to fighting focused on competing in UFC and therefore training under such rules. Krav Maga is always a life and death situation no rules. You cannot compare sport to life and death. Fighting with out rules Krav Maga is the best in this context.
Wow, I've heard so many who totally debunk Krav Maga. I'll have to take a second look.
It really depends on the school.
It's a piece of shit
it's poopoo caca
Sounds like Krav Maga is for thieving Terrorist hypocrites.
Inside MMA was an incredible show and was a great way for me to get my MMA news and results back when I was broke and couldn’t afford to pay for pay per view. I remember it was around like 2008-2012 ish.
Spetsnaz wins
Bas,u are Awsome!...Totally reignited my love of Martial arts discovering the videos of your Pancrase days...
Keep up the great work!...
Respect.. You truly are a man of class, Bas. You also shared to us that it would be desirable to mix things up.
Thank you.
Guys, before you criticize Bas Rutten, he DID say MMA wins in a fight.
People acting like he said the N word or something lol He was giving an opinion on Krav Maga.
What is "N word" ?
Thanks
He called some one "newbie". :P
This is a good answer for any new martial artist. Bas Rutten explains these two very legitimate ways to train, points out that nothing is stopping you from doing both of them at the same time. Although both systems are quite confident in their training methods, there is no dogma to the extent that you are disincentivised from doing other things.
Did Krav for 1 year and was embarrassingly useless- constantly told how badass we were- realised I wasn’t when I started BJJ!!! Now blue belt and haven’t looked back
A year of KM and they didnt teach any JJ. That's strange. Not all form of KM are the same. Sucks to here that your experience with Krav wasn't good.
Keep rolling!
Not a good idea to mess with or have negative ideas about Jewish people when your profession is in the entertainment business. Bas wouldn't say anything bad about Yakuza either.
Sorry, Bas: you're wrong. In order to learn to fight, you have to FIGHT--you need full speed, full contact sparring and you don't get that in Krav Maga. Without this sparring, you'll never develop toughness and the ability to apply techniques in real situations. That's why all UFC fighters all come from backgrounds in wrestling, BJJ, judo, or kickboxing.
+profd65 well that and those MA's are allowed in the UFC...
Supreme Commander Thor
Yea, I'm sure if eye gouges and groin grabs were allowed, krav maga practitioners would totally dominate the UFC, lol.
profd65 that's not the point, besides back in original UFC when hair pulling etc was ok..things were different
Supreme Commander Thor
In the old UFC the rules were different but the outcome was the same: the jiu-jitsu guys and the wrestlers dominated.
profd65 I didn't really think this through. If your gonna straight up say Bas is wrong then there's not really any point to making a comment of my own.
As with all Martial Arts, make sure the school you're looking into is legitimate. Some things to watch out for are these: #1They don't let you try out for free, #2 They encourage you to beat your attacker after he/she is unconscious/incapacitated (which then legally makes you the attacker), #3 They encourage you to stay and "teach them a lesson" even after you can get away, #4 You never spar (ask the instructor about it before deciding) or spar dangerously, #5 Most or all of the high-ranking students (Red Belt or above) have very sloppy strikes which the instructor never corrects, and/or can't teach them to strike correctly, #6 They encourage "flashy" and/or impractical techniques and strategies for self defense. Lastly #7 They either do not exercise/ very rarely exercise, or they do very dangerous exercises like jumping squats when they know the student has bad knees hips "suck it up wimp!" ect, won't let students take a break when they have asthma, heart problems ect.
If this doesn't apply to the school you attend, then you might have a good one. But there are other things to watch out for. The biggest question is *Will this school get you to where you want to be?*
People don't realize he wrote the KMW combative striking modules and is friends with KMW founder Darren Levine.
Ahhh Politics Levine has made mucho $$$$$
Krav Maga's effectiveness is directly related to the coach and their martial arts background. Plus, how much they're doing live drilling. But doing muay thai/ kickboxing, boxing, wrestling, or BJJ (alone or in combination of each other) is guaranteed to be far more effective
As far as a single system in of itself I have to agree with bas, krav is very street defense friendly where you learn all the nasty tactics not taught in other systems geared towards competition. Obviously muy Thai, hoy jiu jitsu, boxing, wrestling etc is very effective but as a single system in of itself Krav Maga
Question: how do you train for real life, self defense situations without going full speed?
That is certainly the best way of preparing to fight your way out of trouble, but there are other factors to consider: how do you deal tactically with a situation dealing with multiple opponents? People with weapons? Its not neccessarily about fighting them but being able to safely extracate yourself from that situation as well as de-escalate etc. For some people, just knowing the basics of 'the fence' is enough to deter some people from attacking because the sucker punch non-trained fighters often rely on isn't going to work as well for them.
There is also the matter of what if someone is less physically able to go 'full speed' and do all the hard sparring that is the best way to get tough and learn how to fight. Not everyone can do that, but that doesn't mean that anything that falls short of that is useless. For some people that is the best they will be able to do with their limitations and it will be good enough for dealing with people who aren't trained fighters or hardcore thugs.
Good krav instructors will encourage their students to cross train, and then use their higher level fighting skills to put those skills into a context focused on self defence rather than pure fighting. @@cleanremarks
Awareness is the difference. An mma fighter will not think about a concealed knife or gun. Also an mma fighter won't think about getting jumped by opponents buddies. However the mma fighter has practiced pain tolerance and stamina. Both are mixed in Defendu Tudo.
The best martial art is RUNNING.
EdmundKemp - Running is Martial Arts conditioning. If you mean run away, that's called being a Pu//ssy.
Also called Nikejustsu ;-)
300m Hurdles
@@IlokanoWarrior So you would be the type of guy who gets stabbed because you wanted to test your fighting skills. I would say run if you can, if not fight.
@@TheAqix why run when you can give them your possesions? If you run you could get stabbed in the back too.. the thing with Krav Maga is to use it when you already gave up the possesions and the threats continues so the only thing you have left is your life.. better react and try to survive!
Krav Maga uses techniques from lots of martial arts to use in a real life self defence situation. Along with disarming people with weapons. You don’t take Krav Maga to learn to fight, you take it to learn to defend yourself that is the difference between it and MMA
great point
There aren't that many Krav Maga fighters. Because Krav Maga is made for self defense, for you to walk the streets knowing how to defend yourself anywhere and use anything to defend yourself against any type of attack.
On which they teach BS defense techniques that won't work in real life, similar to Aikido techniques
@@Therizinosaurus you are a keyboard warrior.
@@JMInsurance dont you think that any dirty trick krav guys do a trained fighter can do too? Biting isnt a skill its an escalation of force. Krav is good at what it does: training in confidence and aggression to soldiers for 2 weeks. Its not an actual fighting style
@@CB-pi5hc there is really no such thing as a fighting style for one. Only principles of fighting exist my friend. The same straight punch and kick has many names in many so called styles but it is the same technique. There are many aspects of krav the one you mentioned which is two weeks and the real krav which is training how to fight, the way Imi Lichtenfeld intended it to be..
I am not a professional fighter, I just train because living in Baltimore is rough. I can tell you Krav and any other principles of fighting will work depending on where you train and how you train.
Agreed. Gotta cross train. The biggest difference I see with self defense and MMA is the element of surprise. MMA or sparring, my partner or opponent knows we're in a fight. Self defense- someone approaching me in a threatening manner, I don't want them to know I have any knowledge of fighting until the attack is on them. Then its unleash with overwhelming force and finish them in less than 10 seconds. This is why you don't see a lot of traditional arts work in a cage- its not designed for that. That said, I believe sparring and grappling are incredibly important for your development- static techniques that focus on groin strikes, throat hits, gouges, limb destruction, they are great- but you also need to know what its like getting hit and having to fight someone in order to make that stuff work.
I train by doing a lot of running. If I'm about to get into a fight I am going to run away and it's highly unlikely that anyone will catch me. And if they do my screaming techniques are second to none.
Until you are walking with your wife or child who can’t run like you... what then?
@@davydtaylor4151
He obviously is a proud owner of a V card ;-D
ken sin 😂
Run like a coward all your life?
@@davydtaylor4151 Hey, they are on their own. Maybe they will train harder next time.
First time i do not agree with Bas. Israel (a country WITH modern weapons) against Palestine (a country with rocks) was never in danger. It's like a fight between a midged and a giant.
Bas is LITERALLY in "The Book" of Krav Maga!
Krav doesn't seem to be a fighting style as much as it is a throw something completely devastating to the opponent so you can run off and survive with your life. MMA is more about having a full blown fight.
I think a lot of people agree that Krav is great for the street plus the MMA conditioning and the one on one concepts of MMA can all merge together.
The reason it's so effective( and also disliked by some) is because it steals the most effective moves from all forms of combat. The point is to disarm, or defend yourself with finishing to main or kill your opponent. Almost every combation includes Nut shots, eye pokes etc that used with BJJ and boxing is not allowed in sport MMA but in a street fight I'd rather have all the tools rather then a limited set
As a Krav guy I must admit that MMA fighters are capable of beating more than one guy because of their overall fitness and impact conditioning. But so far as weapon defense Krav has it. Combine the two.
Mixed Krav Maga of Mt Olive NJ I do both krav maga and mma. Both are great as a street selfdefence. But krav maga is just a little bit better in the details. The details are for example that my reflex in a fight with mma skills could be; oke just go to the ground, i feel comfortable here and i will control you. But in krav maga you learn that he could have friend who will kick the shit out of you so you learn to get away from the ground (and possibly destroy your enemy while doing it) and get away. Thats just a little example of a mma habbit that could be neggative in a streetfight.
But in krav maga you also learn to be aware of your surroundings. Where are exits, are there possibly more attackers etc. For me krav maga is pure selfdefence and mma is sport. Nothing beats a good bjj session.
+Mixed Krav Maga of Mt Olive NJ I have done both with extremly good teachers from both branches. And it's exactly as Bas says. Krav is exellent in dirty street fight techniques and selv defence against weapons. Defence against knife is something of the most usefull thing you can learn.
But if there is a hand to hand fight between a krav guy and a mma guy. The mma guy would win.
Joe Normal that is partly true. one on one (especialy in a cage) the mma would win (same skills etc) BUT... this is a big but, a mma guy isnt trained for street situation of multiple attackers and getting away etc. And the chance of multiple attackers on the street is really big.
I come from NY so I know what can happen. There have been times where one on one does happen, best man wins. I advocate the first strike all the time so you don't get hurt, why not get the upper hand.
The best way to train for an unarmed 1 vs 1 fight, is to fight against a high class fighter. It is not really important if there are rules or not but rather it's up to the way u train and practice your stuff.. Both is great (have done both for years).MMA is great in terms of an unarmed fight. I mean, dirty fighting is good but most of time neither necessary nor the best decision. In Krav Maga we train for street situations that might happen and we train our "tactic"(which is very drifferent to mma). The great thing is that they do not contradict each other but rather use similair "supply systems" what makes the combination easier and better.
Bas, you rule! I like to see your show on TV.
I think so many of these so called "Krav Maga"gyms"popping up all over the place, bare very little in resemblance to what is being taught to the soldiers in the I.D.F..
That is the issue..So Bas's explanation is about right..And also KM Is a particular fighting system(incorporating many different MA skills+all of the illegal ones of course(so as to get the job done!).
The thing about stuff like eye gouging and kicking people in the balls is if you're in some life and death situation where you have to do them you'll just do them, there aren't any special sophisticated techniques of how to go for someone's eye.
Don't get me wrong but... "Krav Maga is the best self defense technique because Israel soldier train it and Israel has the best army in the world. They are under attack 24/7" and "Their weapon defense program has really good stuff"
- Usually their opponent are children, teenagers, women and handicapped people.
- Considering how many IDF soldiers got either killed or wounded badly by total beginners with no military experience and using small kitchen knives...that doesn't work in really like. Same thing for firearms. There is no such a thing as a "block and disarm technique" in real world.
-"The strongest army in the world". Lol...they have barely 150.000 active personnel, 465.000 reserver personnel and strongly depend on foreign support to barely survive and justify their existence. Just to give you the possibility to compare it to a really strong army: The US has 1.380.000 active, 811.000 reserve ; the EU 1,823,000 active, reserves and potential reserves in terms of several millions; Russia 1,013,628, 2,572,500 reserved. And I don't even want to touch the tech and budget matter. Israel could be eaten for breakfast and digested before launch.
Someone likes propaganda
Aikido is the best,,,,,,, little old people can chuck loads of people about and even make it look like they are flinging themselves through the air almost like magic :)
What I love about these comments in response to your statement is that most of these people I guarantee have zero military experience. "Nah, that Krav is crap against MMA" Oh really? Let's see you go to Gaza with your MMA and a Rifle. Let's see where that gets you.
You shut your commie mouth!
Bas fell prey to the propaganda that Israel “is attacked 24/7“. Actually, Israel is the one attacking others 24/7, especially defenseless Palestinians whose land they steal and occupy. Also, most of their oppression is with high tech weaponry provided by the US. Physical confrontations using Krav Mag are relatively rare. They may beat up a Palestinian the same way George Floyd was beat up by armed cops. Thats not a “fight”, but cowardly oppression against defenseless people.
@@mr1001nights lol, yea, Israel goes to palistine, and launches missles from inside there, at themselves in Israel so they can shoot them down with their Iron Dome lmao0
@@7James77 not sure how your comment counters mine. Are you meaning to say that those Hamas rockets prove that Palestinians are *not* defenseless?
@@mr1001nights hard to be defenders when youre the ones sending the first attack 😂
I call this the military fallacy. "The military does x so you should do x".
Do soldiers train once a week with obese cowards who get out of breath climbing stairs or skinny wimps?
Does KM get taught in the same way in the military as it does with civilians?
Is hand to hand the most common way modern soldiers fight?
Are civilians likely to be in the same types of conflicts soldiers are?
Would the military train soldiers in the same way if they had more time to train?
What about every army in the world which doesn't teach KM?
Do people in charge of an army never make bad choices?
If you're not in the military you probably want to make different choices about what to spend money on and how to train.
his logic is a bit flawed. the Krav Maga system is not the best system because they teach it in Israel. if anything, they teach it in Israel because it is the best system.
Krav maga is like a three week crash course on fighting. Not self defense, fighting. Get a can of mace for self defense
Some of the Krav Maga techniques I really like but I've seen some ridiculous ones from some instructors.
When Bas Rutten say it is good, then it is good. This man does not talk bullshit. And when anyone here talk against it, then he is the guy who talk bullshit. Rutten knows what he talk about, this man deserve some credits.
Lol the "X country military uses this so it must be the best" argument makes me chuckle.
So people on here are arguing that krav would be better in a street fight or a fight against 2 or more people, others say no way mama training is better... only way to settle is one guy training krav for 3 years or so against a guy training in mama for same period of time, who wins??? Yep.
Cyril Figgis: Hey will I get to learn karate?
Sterling Archer: Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts? No, ISIS agents use Krav Maga.
+Joe L. I love the fact that they were called "ISIS" back then. Can't use that name no more.
Israel is not isis. You're thinking of islam man.
My favorite show in the goddamm world.
Ravendarke 777 oh ok gotcha. From archer?
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Try again. Lets not forget that Israel is an ally of the us....
very diplomatic
Of all the armchair fighters who say "Krav Maga is shit" compared to what this man says, a living legend in the world of mixed martial arts and a personal favourite of mine for many years Mr Bas Rutten, I think I'll go with what Bas says !!!
The two worst people to fight are competitive boxers and wrestlers. Why? Because those fuckers are in shape and know their techniques to perfection. There's something to be said for constant competition. Sorry, punching and kicking the air or going 1/4 speed won't protect you. That's the bullshit in self defense.
Krav Maga is not about defence. It's about aggression.
Either Bass loves Israel or he's just being careful what not to say.
why do they call it Krav McGraw is it because we were exposed to Tim McGraw and really screwed up our ability to say Maga?
+AZTigerMMA People insert consonants between certain letters and they don't realise it. If they ve never said this word before, your brain fills in the gap to make the word easier to pronounce. Such a word is "drawing", I ve heard many British say "draw(r)ing and when I told them why they say it like that, they said they didn't realise they had done so
Lol. Yeah, I find myself having to correct a lot of people on that one too.
That is a concise, correct and insightful answer.
I guess he meant they are "ON " the attack 24/7
Short and sweet, Bas is always straoght to the point.
Everyone is an expert. LOL.
Bas is an expert, dumbass.
Krav maga schools, which used to write off full-contact martial arts as mere "sport" 10-15 years ago, nowadays understand the "street" stuff is not in fashion anymore and they steal much of the drills and methods of thaiboxing or mma classes, they do padwork, SOME full-contact sparring, train lowkicks etc. But it seems mostly gimmicky, to offer a bit of adrenaline and feel of self-worth to office rats with a chip on their shoulder who wear "tactical" gear and pay for seminars to kick pads and pretend they can disarm a man with an AK-47...
if you want to defend your self, buy a gun, and carry it legally.
And iff you live in a country where you cant carry any firearm by law?
Dear Bas, we are definitely not under attack 24/7, and our army is not nearly the best one in the world. With regards, an Israeli.
Actually, Bas, don't listen to Nir, we are always under attack 24/7, especially from within from left leaning Israelis who want to destroy our country from the inside, with total respect for you, another Israeli.
Are some people really debating here between Krav Maga and MMA? Krav Maga itself IS street version of MMA. Why? Because it encompasses and adopts every effective techniques from every arts out there to use it. It's tailored towards street application. Krav Maga adopts techniques from all arts, just like MMA. Krav Maga adopts groin kicks from techniques from Muay Thai and kickboxing but tailored towards people's nuts, it adopts hand strikes from boxing and Muay Thai, ground defense from BJJ and Wrestling. Go look up the history yourself. Creator of Krav Maga was a former boxer and wrestler but he wanted to tweak it to be effective towards streets and made it into a system that is open to adopt any effective techniques even till this day, unlike bullshit arts like Wing Chun, Baguazhang, kung fu, or bunch of karate styles(except kyokushin) where they just rely on their grandmasters learnings.
Now if you fuckheads are wondering what will happen if best Krav Maga fighter and best MMA fighter fought? It will not happen. But even if it did, MMA fighter will have an advantage due to the fact that MMA fighter had lot of full contact sparring experience but result will vary depending on who successfully executes their plan first because it's as stupid as saying pure boxer vs pure wrestler. We've seen pure boxing champ beat pure MMA champ(Ray Mercer vs Tim Sylvia) and also pure MMA champ beat pure boxing champ(Randy Couture vs James Toney).
Both systems are deadly and respectable in their own ways. I prefer to train MMA or Muay Thai first to gain all the full contact training and conditioning aspects of it while learning Krav Maga on the side. I was a former Muay Thai practitioner and in my gym, lot of BJJ, MMA, and Krav Maga practitioners have learned from my gym as well as shared their specialty techniques from their respective arts. Only ignorant fucks disrespect other effective combat systems. Before Bruce Lee introduced JKD, lot of people were one dimensional and made fun of the concept of "jack of all trades, masters of none". Now it turns out jack of all trades is the best solution for anything, whether it's fighting, business, any type of engineering, etc.
+EdDy4RheelZ
And when it all comes down to it, it's the man, not the style.
I highly disagree of karate being bullshit. It been proven to work on numerous times. Kickboxing and kyokushin would not exist if it weren't for it. I myself and 13 other people I've met in my life has used it in a real fight. Some karate styles are basically kyokushin. Don't you dare bring in the tournaments in this, that is known as sport karate and is very different. There is everything used that's used in kickboxing too except for the clinch. I do kickboxing too. Do NOT judge an art based on what you've seen in a 3min video or what you've learned in 6 months compared to what you would learn in 3 years.
Not to mention the conditioning too.
+EdDy4RheelZ Yours is by far my favorite comment here. I love how someone said that Krav Maga IS MMA, just street style MMA! Both have their own application.
+teepriest Respect as well for your comment. I said the same thing in a different post. You can find ANY art beating another art. Because it rely's on the person doing it
I fought a krav ma gay instructor/ex artillery commando and got myself 3 years prison. you know who you are Svensson that shit ain't so effective
"Krav maga is the best because they teach it to the soldiers in Israel, so it HAS to be the best."
Wow, such a logical explanation. "I go like DIZZZ, and then like DOTTTT, and then like DIZZZZ and then POPOPOPOPOP!
***** Good luck getting that stick out of your ass.
***** That too....there must be PCP in the water.
+Tom Evans
It is one of the best armies in the world. What?!
Seth Pffft no.They're idiots who have knife-fights in the streets.
Tom Evans
You're not right
I doul highly recommend to do together with any kind of Martial Art. It is very important to learn about your phyisical abilities and about distance while with sparring other people. Krav Maga alone will not help you to defend yourself.
There's always some new fresh trend in martial arts and there are always unscrupulous cheats who are willing to take advantage of stupid people trying to follow a trend. For the last 5 years or so, there have been Krav Maga schools popping up all over the place here in the US, and most of them totally suck and are completely phony. Most of them are on par with Rexkwondo from Napoleon Dynamite. 30 years ago, it was all about ninjas and ninjitsu, then 5 years later, kickboxing/muay thai become the hot thing with all of Van Damme's movies, then came Seagal and all of the sudden everyone starts taking Aikido, then UFC came out and Gracie kicked the shit out everyone and Juijitsu was all the rage. Then it finally dawned on people, no one technique is superior to others, all have their strong points and weak points, so people just used what worked and MMA was born. However, from the way people describe Krav Maga it almost sounds more like a women's self-defense course at the YMCA, people clawing at eyes, kicking each other in the crouch, open hand strikes so don't have to break a nail while making a fist, using a purse as a weapon, that sort of thing. I've even seen so-called Krav Maga schools reselling the same old debunked bullshit martial arts crap like pressure point attacks, chi moves, death blows and other phony super power movie garbage. Make sure to thoroughly research the credentials of any school before giving them any money.
+Jack Burton I'd only listen to Jack Burton. Pork Chop Express is the way to go.
" Then it finally dawned on people, no one technique is superior to others, all have their strong points and weak points"
But that's not really true; there are some genuinely good techniques and some really shitty ones. There are some ways to train that are effective and produce good results, and others where you can spend decades and not actually get very good. I agree there isn't a known "best technique" for all situations (or else that would be the only technique anybody sensible ever practices), but there are definitely good and bad ways to train.
Exactly, no martial art can instantly turn someone into a bad ass. A lot of "krav maga schools", and I use that term loosely, make claims that are completely unfounded, like being able to disarm an opponent with a gun, which is stupid and reckless for any martial art to claim, besides being a total lie. Most people who take krav maga are like Mack from It's Always Sunny, arrogant d-bags who think they are tough only because they have never taken a real beating in their lives.
I agree. Everything must be tested in an actual situation. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, period.
Israel is under attack 24/7 ? wtf bas you got punched too much
I knew someone would Catch that..
wow, Bas really shouldnt have shared his political opinion judging from the comments
Krav Maga is great for army professionals (especially in Israel), but not for civilians. Why? Because a soldier trains to kill. Israeli soldiers are trained to walk until their legs die. They do many pull-ups, sprints, cary fellow soldiers on their back. To sum it up: they are fit like athletes. Krav Maga is just one of several parts in their arsenal of defense and offense. When you are Joe Sixpack, working in an office, you lack vital reflexes. You never learn how to fight under pressure. Krav Maga schools in Europe rip you off, and give you a false feeling of confidence. On top of that, they only teach parts of the original Krav Maga. The specific (and deadly) military parts are not included in European and American training programs. If you are a young lion in an elite unit like Sayeret Matkal, or Golani, then Krav Maga is the best self defense system you can train in. But as a civilian, I would stick to boxing and MMA. Why? Because you'll learn to fight under pressure. I'm an amateur boxer myself. I don't know flashy moves. But I do respond very fast to any unforeseen movement. Whether right in front of me, or from the side. This is what civilian Kravists lack entirely. I twice participated in a seminar. All of those ground moves were new to me. But it was all simulation. Then we had to stand in line, and punch a guy holding a big body pad. When it was my turn, I hit that thing so hard, the pad fell to the floor and the guy grabbed his gut in agony. This is the difference between full contact martial arts and all the other stuff.
Martijn M trust me you have a higher chance killing somebody kicking someone in the head with no skills than movie moves krav maga
Most IDF only get a crash course in KRAV and forget everything after they leave the military. American KRAV is more water down but you can retain it
Best explanation! I have trained in KM for some years in the past and am Pro KM but I do also admit the limitations when taught in many "Americanizied" Schools...
YES I have heard that. The European schools look even far worse than American lol. I trained 4 years in Krav at World Wide ( Which is biggest in America.). I still found it good system . I may come back to it in the future. I have also trained a few years in MT and trying to find a gym. If not , then I may try a fundamental grappling class at Gracie Barra academy because my grappling skills are terrible
I hold a GREEN Belt in KM WW lol
Krav is a mentality not a cash grab I mean martial arts. Same thing with how we train marines. You train to run towards things most people flee from.
Correction Baz they aren’t under attack 24/7 they are the ones attacking 24/7 get it right🙄
For certain you need both, depending on the situation. It's 3am and I don't feel like typing about the merits of KM, but as Bas said: if a BJJ practitioner has you in a hold and you do do something stupid like bite or try to poke his eyes then the chances are that they will break your arm or leg.
Show me actual evidence that it works
krav maga taught in shayetet is only gun handling, street fight krav maga is bullshit, not even eye gouging and not even groin striking would be effective against in adrenaline assailant, krav maga is bullshit, krav maga knife defense is bullshit and dangerous because gives false self confidence. I was an armed security guard, I have jewish back ground and embarrassed with this krav maga bullshit.
I trained Krav for years and its good stuff and not just for JEWS !!! IT works
Nobody will give you evidence, cause KM is a BS, including knife or gun disarms techniques.
See, this is the thing - no one gives a fuck about random internet nobody #52,386, nor his doubts about a martial art that has been utilized for more than half a century. Do you really want to know if it's effective or not? Find the fuck out on your own - you're literally on the internet.
When you have a galil and your enemy a rock
Krav Maga is not applicable in real life combat. Especially if u only train 2 to 3 times a week.
I would love to ask Bas how much Krav Maga he's trained in during his career?????
There exists three versions of Krav Maga. Military Krav Maga ( The Real Deal and the best) , Policiary, Civilian. Now the problem with Krav Maga is that the schools usually teach the Civilian kind and that many of these schools dont spar much or practise on real life situations for it to work you need good instructors. This is why Krav Maga is not the best option but at as an introduction to martial arts it's ok.
mma is for competition where you are fighting one other person inside a ring with a referee and rules. krav maga is for self defense whether yourr fighting one person or a group of people and there are no rules. you do not learn weapon defense in mma, you do not learn dirty fighting in mma, ypu do not learn awareness and evasive skills in mma. I look at like this, krav maga is mma for the streets and mma is for inside a ring. its foolish to really compare the two because many of the techniques and styles are the same. every single mma ufc fight win ive ever seen used something we learn in krav. I think the only difference in mma is the conditioning and thats it. at our school we have the krav room, kici boxing room and mma room. mma focuses more on conditioning and jujitsu and wrestling where as everything else such as boxing, judo, wrestling , jujitsu etc are all covered in krav. I guess it just depends on the school you go to and what the instructors expect and teach. our instructors are militant and our training is brutal.
Good point . One thing is for self defense on the street and and fighting on a cage against a trained fighter are two different worlds...
Has any Krav Maga guy won a ufc title of Vale tudo or anything?
+Primetome nope but it's because they are not trained for it, the top krav maga guy are in the army, not a ring
+Az Erty False, again. The top Krav Maga guys teach KRav Maga. Most people are discharged from the army at age 21. Very few people in the Israeli army actually learn it, only combat soldiers, most of them hardly ever use it (cuz they have guns) and the people who go pro with it never do it through any kind of army related system.
+Primetome No but a Ninja once did.
+William Hill ahahahahahahahahah its true. so funny. go ninjas
yes to be honest there is a Swedish guy, Tommy Blom ... but krav maga taught in shayetet is just gun handling, street fight self defense krav maga is totally bullshit. I was an armed security guard, I have jewish background I am embarrassed with this krav maga merchandise.
Find out what is outlawed in MMA and learn those techniques!! A bit of Krav M. can't hurt either.
"Best army in the world." Ok, we're done here. Bas has no clue what he's talking about.
Probably true a while ago but nowadays Krav Maga might as well be Mcdonalds. Simpler and more realistic systems have sprung up. You can still probably get good self defence training from a Krav Maga instructor if you find the right one.
Ahh I love Bas - but this is going in his professional Losses column
For self defense there is only one problem with Krav Maga, its 'too effective'. What I mean by that is its too effective for a first world country where self defense laws are crazy. Using a few Krav Maga techniques will turn your self defense plea into being charged with aggravated assault and I don't like how Krav school teach actual flat out deadly moves straight away in your training.
Every Krav school needs a lesson or a program every week for their students to take to understand different levels of self defense laws in their country and when its appropriate to use certain moves. If not then potentially a situation can get VERY escalated very quickly.
bas should correct his words to: "they attack 24/7".
Thought Bas would be more knowledgeable about Israel. Saying Israel is under attack constantly - from the Palestinians - would be like saying Nazi Germany was under constant attack from the Jews.
That is it, if Bas says it works I am taking it
How can you say it’s the most effective self defence system? It’s a money racket
Isreal under attack 24/7 🤣🤣🤣what reverse universe is he living on because it certainly isn’t ours
hes partnered with bullshit artist amir perets and they sell krav malaka courses together, thats why. But still, I respect Bas for his pre ufc fight career, pride work and personality.
constantly being attacked by kids throwing rocks.