It's interesting how so many don't understand that the leather is good on these. People seem to only be attracted to that fake tumbled leather. I love the R Bred and these. Same with the Air Ship PE's.
It's straight up crazy how clueless most people are about the leather. Tumbled does not equal good! These have the best leather we've seen out of a retro in a very long time and I've heard major collectors talking about how shitty they found it. Boggles my mind..
Really makes you wonder why Nike even bothers with mids and continued production of the modern retro version. Knowing that they can produce these and choose not to, especially since it's what everyone wants is just ridiculous.
I was already super pumped about finally (I’m getting them no matter what) getting the upcoming ‘85 Neutral (Natural) Greys, but this video really solidified it. So glad to hear, from someone who truly has knowledge/experience of the originals, about how good the ‘85s are in terms of shape, and especially quality, as there’s been so much chatter about their stiffer leather being of bad quality, but it seems to not be the case.
This is such great content! I think you could do a lot better by showing more close ups of the things you’re talking about because it’s hard to really verify the differences, or similarities, even if slight, at a distance. You focused on a lot of positives but I think close ups help us to really hold JB accountable visually, and we can weigh in in the comments
This is a very small thing, which you missed, but i was sure you would point out: The retros have the "TM" next to the wings logo. the new beginning iteration, like the 85 pairs does NOT have that, which is a much cleaner look! I did learn a lot from this video though, thank you!
IMO biggest difference that changes the whole look is the toebox, all AJ retros nowadays have the oversized toebox, sometimes blocky sometimes just bigger than og. Combined with the sole curling up like a banana just kills the look.
Great video! I just examined my true blue 1s that took some 85 appointments and at least on that color way, the tongue tag has a different Nike script and the older style swoosh, just like the lost and founds. I figured these probably had it too, along with the different pattern on the slightly narrower midsole.
Thanks for the info and comparison. I was fortunate to grab this year’s All Star 85 red/black and since then really started falling down the OG 1985 rabbit hole. Info is hard to come by easily so this video and the buyers guide are super helpful. Youve earned a sub! Now to find a 85 chicago in 8-8.5 in worn but good wearable condition... :)
I feel like they did match the leather. The OGs just appear thicker because they’ve frayed with age and wear to make the cut flare out more. The 85 retros will do the same over time with wear
I feel like the swoosh on the NB pair is like a dunk swoosh where it’s super low, kind of upset they didn’t raise the heel counter a bit to raise the swoosh imo
Tbh i like the modern og highs over the 2020 85s and the actual 85s . These looks so dated, that 90 degree angle doesn't look appealing to me. Our foot ain't designed like a stick man and that narrow toe box is hell for people with wide feet.
Hey. I really respect ur expertise on the jordan 1. I love it. I wanted your opinion on the viberemakelab version. I know they are bespoke and not authentic from Nike but as someone who wants the closest thing to the original. What do u think of the shape and quality?
How come you didn’t compare the forefoot stabilizers? I think that is one of the most important parts to an 85 because it’s so exaggerated and cartoony. It has more curve and is thinner in the middle of that panel
Woah you’re wearing an AP in this video? Is there a quick explanation on how you got loaded? Or if you wanna keep it private that’s totally understandable.
What colorways do you think they're gonna put out in the Hi 85?🤔... I would go nutts over a black toe with a black tongue in a Hi 85. My guess is they're gonna keep slightly altering OG colorways like they did these 1st 2 releases.
If they did that with the black toe, I'd lose my mind in the best way possible haha. I don't know if we'll see any OG CW's in this cut in 2020 tbh. I really hope we do but there is slim to no chance..
@@VintageKicksGallery same, I'd go nutts but I agree.. I don't think they will either.. I think they'll keep altering the Og's as they've done with the NBP 85 and the red/black 85
I'm looking for a quality pair of Jordan 1 but I believe many of them use a lot of synthetic leather or mostly synthetic leather. Is there a way to know when ordering whether i'm going to get full leather upper and a high quality leather? For example On kicks crew some Nike Air Jordan 1 Retro High OG are listed as having a leather upper, some are listed as having a synthetic upper and some it just doesn't say at all. Seems hard to know what you're getting. I saw a teardown of the 2015 shattered backboards and he said the leather was decent quality and all real yet the other ones he cut up, white mids, were mostly fake leather and cheap leather.
Any of the 85 cuts, the 2016 black toes, the 2015 Chicago's, the 2018 shadows, the 2017 Royals, the 2019 obsidian as well as the bred toe, and the pine green/ court purples all have solid leather
Same reason they did not use real leather around the collars. They used that vinyl crap also. Laziness. And being cheap. Why not go all the way. They stopped at 99 out of 100.
@@pramey just buy a replica and do it. That's what the entire replica community has been doing basically lol. Even aging the midsoles and distressing the piping, ankle area, etc. I've also seen black toes and breds replicated using these.
It's interesting how so many don't understand that the leather is good on these. People seem to only be attracted to that fake tumbled leather. I love the R Bred and these. Same with the Air Ship PE's.
It's straight up crazy how clueless most people are about the leather. Tumbled does not equal good! These have the best leather we've seen out of a retro in a very long time and I've heard major collectors talking about how shitty they found it. Boggles my mind..
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How the hell is this video not getting even 1k views. Quality is so good man keep it up
Almost 10 k now
Ya bro
man you're SO underrated. Some of the best sneaker content I've ever seen on youtube
Imo the new beginning 1’s are the best 1’s this year.
i love those blue and yellow vandals in the back
1984's from Japan!
The new og hi mold looks way better from a fashion aesthetic. The 85 cut is way closer to the OG though.
The lost and found 1s just came out and I thought to come back to this video We miss you Alex!
Great video!
I hope Jordan brand makes more ‘85 Jordan 1s this year, but not so limited so that more people can get their hands on a pair (like me)
Fantastic video man. I've been waiting for someone to do this.
Really makes you wonder why Nike even bothers with mids and continued production of the modern retro version. Knowing that they can produce these and choose not to, especially since it's what everyone wants is just ridiculous.
You would have to somehow persuade everyone working at Nike to do it. Not just one single person can make it happen.
I appreciate your work and info on this video. Great stuff my guy
I personally like the wings logo and the oversized swoosh better on the OG 85’s
Looking at people walk to try and not crease their shoes is hilarious lol.
i dont know how this video only has 13k views this was incredibly detailed and good
I was already super pumped about finally (I’m getting them no matter what) getting the upcoming ‘85 Neutral (Natural) Greys, but this video really solidified it. So glad to hear, from someone who truly has knowledge/experience of the originals, about how good the ‘85s are in terms of shape, and especially quality, as there’s been so much chatter about their stiffer leather being of bad quality, but it seems to not be the case.
those 85s are crispy as hell
Excellent video & very informative. I own the Reverse 85s & it’s one of my fav pickups from last year. Still looking to add the New Beginnings pair.
Love these wish they made more Jordan’s with the classic 85 shape. Might buy a fake pair of these and do a bred custom 😂 the shape is awesome on these
This is such great content! I think you could do a lot better by showing more close ups of the things you’re talking about because it’s hard to really verify the differences, or similarities, even if slight, at a distance. You focused on a lot of positives but I think close ups help us to really hold JB accountable visually, and we can weigh in in the comments
Sweet video man! Thanks for posting, very informative! Kamil from vuvintage
Thanks! I'll keep em coming!
Forest wore lots of shoes, his momma said they would take him anywhere. 🤣
EXCELLENT ANALYSIS
This is a very small thing, which you missed, but i was sure you would point out: The retros have the "TM" next to the wings logo. the new beginning iteration, like the 85 pairs does NOT have that, which is a much cleaner look! I did learn a lot from this video though, thank you!
IMO biggest difference that changes the whole look is the toebox, all AJ retros nowadays have the oversized toebox, sometimes blocky sometimes just bigger than og. Combined with the sole curling up like a banana just kills the look.
Great video! I just examined my true blue 1s that took some 85 appointments and at least on that color way, the tongue tag has a different Nike script and the older style swoosh, just like the lost and founds. I figured these probably had it too, along with the different pattern on the slightly narrower midsole.
Thanks for the info and comparison. I was fortunate to grab this year’s All Star 85 red/black and since then really started falling down the OG 1985 rabbit hole. Info is hard to come by easily so this video and the buyers guide are super helpful. Youve earned a sub!
Now to find a 85 chicago in 8-8.5 in worn but good wearable condition... :)
I feel like they did match the leather. The OGs just appear thicker because they’ve frayed with age and wear to make the cut flare out more. The 85 retros will do the same over time with wear
I got a pair of Chicago 94s that can use some love and need a bit of re glue
Really nice and detail comparison review！
Sick comparison. I really wanna get one of these new 85s or the OG 85s one day! :D
I feel like the swoosh on the NB pair is like a dunk swoosh where it’s super low, kind of upset they didn’t raise the heel counter a bit to raise the swoosh imo
They still don't look like the '85s smh. I like the toe box on the real 85 much better
The 2020 85 cuts use a synthetic leather for the swoosh I believe
Tbh i like the modern og highs over the 2020 85s and the actual 85s . These looks so dated, that 90 degree angle doesn't look appealing to me. Our foot ain't designed like a stick man and that narrow toe box is hell for people with wide feet.
I always felt 85s had more room in the toe compared to 94s or 01s
This looks fun:)
Love these videos
When are you going to make a video of the Air Jordan 1 , retro that was released on 2001, I bought 3 pairs, I still have them in their boxes
3 pairs fam??
Subscribed bro! Great content 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯
jordan still didn't put the place of the swoosh correctly. the 2020 swoosh sits too low
Hey. I really respect ur expertise on the jordan 1. I love it. I wanted your opinion on the viberemakelab version. I know they are bespoke and not authentic from Nike but as someone who wants the closest thing to the original. What do u think of the shape and quality?
How come you didn’t compare the forefoot stabilizers? I think that is one of the most important parts to an 85 because it’s so exaggerated and cartoony. It has more curve and is thinner in the middle of that panel
The 85 Retro leather is the same or similar to the Air Force 1 leather. That was proven in a deconstruction video. Pretty unfortunate.
Thank you!!
Great video
Woah you’re wearing an AP in this video? Is there a quick explanation on how you got loaded? Or if you wanna keep it private that’s totally understandable.
I love your t shirt 🔥
Do you think Jordan 1’s fit the same as 85 Team Conventions?
In my experience, the Teams run a bit larger - about .5 size
What colorways do you think they're gonna put out in the Hi 85?🤔... I would go nutts over a black toe with a black tongue in a Hi 85. My guess is they're gonna keep slightly altering OG colorways like they did these 1st 2 releases.
If they did that with the black toe, I'd lose my mind in the best way possible haha. I don't know if we'll see any OG CW's in this cut in 2020 tbh. I really hope we do but there is slim to no chance..
@@VintageKicksGallery same, I'd go nutts but I agree.. I don't think they will either.. I think they'll keep altering the Og's as they've done with the NBP 85 and the red/black 85
@@dreagle1fly We can still hope/dream though. Dear Nike...
It’s called a leather board last not card board
Have you gotten a 2020 Reverse Bred 85 in hand yet?
It's too bad that the Nike check on the retros is placed lower on the shoe than the OGs. I think it hurts the look of the shoe.
I'm looking for a quality pair of Jordan 1 but I believe many of them use a lot of synthetic leather or mostly synthetic leather. Is there a way to know when ordering whether i'm going to get full leather upper and a high quality leather? For example On kicks crew some Nike Air Jordan 1 Retro High OG are listed as having a leather upper, some are listed as having a synthetic upper and some it just doesn't say at all. Seems hard to know what you're getting. I saw a teardown of the 2015 shattered backboards and he said the leather was decent quality and all real yet the other ones he cut up, white mids, were mostly fake leather and cheap leather.
Any of the 85 cuts, the 2016 black toes, the 2015 Chicago's, the 2018 shadows, the 2017 Royals, the 2019 obsidian as well as the bred toe, and the pine green/ court purples all have solid leather
A fucking great review !
why didnt they make the checks out of leather on the OG ? i dont understand.
Same reason they did not use real leather around the collars. They used that vinyl crap also. Laziness. And being cheap. Why not go all the way. They stopped at 99 out of 100.
The check is definitely still off
We're can I get them?
ever thought of whitening the soles on those shoes?
I generally keep some yellowing as I think it enhances the look but if they're too bad, I whiten them just a bit.
I need a 8.5 or a 9 ???
Bro please customize those new beginnings to chicagos PLS JUST FUCKIN PLS
I have an 85, anyone interested?
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No one turned these into Chicago’s yet?
thats what i said i been wanting to see it yet no one did that. its the most obvious shit ever thats what i would do if i could afford it lol
@@pramey just buy a replica and do it. That's what the entire replica community has been doing basically lol. Even aging the midsoles and distressing the piping, ankle area, etc. I've also seen black toes and breds replicated using these.