Do We Need Marian Apparitions? | Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P.
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- Many new converts often wonder if they must accept Marian apparitions or what they must believe about them. Some Protestants worry that Catholics can be worshiping Mary with all the apparitions and devotions. Fr. Pine answers the titular question and many more.
📖 Fr. Pine's Book: bit.ly/3lEsP8F
🖥️ Website: pintswithaquinas.com/
🟢 Rumble: rumble.com/c/pintswithaquinas
👕 Merch: shop.pintswithaquinas.com
🚫 FREE 21 Day Detox From Porn Course: www.strive21.com/
🔵 Facebook: / mattfradd
📸 Instagram: / mattfradd 
Развлечения
Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee. Glory to God!
Our lady of Fatima helped bring me to Catholicism.
You're kinda late ... just as the ship is sinking !!
@@dominicbriganti5710 The gates of Hell will never prevail but might sail away without you. If you’re not with us you’re against us.
@@dominicbriganti5710 oof. Strengthen your faith.
@@revelation1215 How can a sea of fire have gates?
@@allenm2705 Why don't you strengthen it for me? Tell me, what does a typical day in heaven now look like since your savior changed plans and decided to not return and usher in his idyllic paradise on Earth?
MY dad is Lutheran and my mom is Catholic. My dad let my mom raise me Catholic because, to him, they're not very different but trying to differentiate veneration from adoration to him is like talking to a wall
Actually, if their wedding vows were done in a Catholic Church, they have to agree to raise any children Catholic.
Does your father believe in the real presence ? That the Eucharist IS our Lord? Does he agree that the mass is an actual sacrifice ? This is I think the key to understanding the difference between veneration and adoration. Unfortunately if you don’t believe in the real presence you cannot go beyond prayer and veneration of God .
@@MaaFreddy, we Lutherans believe in the real presence, but our terminology differs from the Catholic one.
This episode provided me profound spiritual guidance. As I am undertaking a Marian consecration, St. Kolbe says somethings that really threw me off, but this episode clarified them. Thank you very much, Fr. Gregory.
Someone very dear to me used to support Marians? I think I kept the cards they send out over Christmas; when grieving one of those cards and the phone number provided was a spiritual and real lifeline. I knew I could always call that number if the prayers on the card didn’t soothe. Never had to call but did want to know more about them ever since. Good luck to you, peace be with you and God bless you.
Mali Losinj and Medjugorje brought me back to Catholicism and utterly crushed my protestant 'ego' or 'identity'.
Hail Mary full of Grace, thank You for Your Love and Care, and for leading us to Your Son Our Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
Marian apparitions are good for many but even without it, our faith can still stand.
Once we have exhausted the Christ of the Scriptures we can attend to private revelations……St Jerome
You presume a great deal. Prepare for a great fall.
@@jeffreykalb9752
I don't understand your point
Well, I'm not sure you can say that. Because it is a part of our faith us so there is no imagining that our Faith could stand without it. Youd actually be moving closer to a Sola whatever when you say our faith can stand without Mary.
@@Straight-Outta-Scripture
Kindly read my comment again and tell me as to how I gave the impression that our faith can stand without Mary.
If you don't mind, kindly tell me which Marian doctrines were formulated based on the message from the Marian apparitions.
Was Rosary prayer introduced as a result of the message from Marian apparition?
What about the teachings such as the immaculate conception of Mary, the Assumption of Mary, the title Mary the Mother of God, Mary the New Eve, Mary the Ark of the new Covenant? Were these teachings introduced as a result of the messages from Marian apparitions?
Sola scriptura was designed to take down the authority of priesthood and the sacred tradition of the Church. Now, if Marian apparitions are rejected, how does that undermine the sacred tradition of the Church and the authority of priesthood?
CCC 67 says we don’t have to believe private revelation, which is what Marian apparitions are. So no, we don’t have to believe them.
Thank you! To hear the way some people talk, you’d think that Marian apparitions are the source and summit of the Catholic faith. I don’t deny their possibility or existence, but the seemingly unending conspiracy theories surrounding the Third Secret of Fatima are getting to be a bit much. (And if such a statement offends anyone, sorry, but before responding, ask the following: Is anyone required to accept a private revelation? If the answer is no [see CCC 67 and 73], please don’t bother to engage me.)
@@Kjt853 We contend that Fatima is an exception since there was a public miracle that was witness by 70-100,000 people it hardly qualifies as "private". At Lourdes, she declared herself to be the "Immaculate Conception". There are hundreds of independently documented miracles at Lourdes. You can hardly say it isn't worthy of belief. BTW the Orthodox church believes Mary was sinless even if they don't believe in the Immaculate Conception. They also believe in her bodily assumption but call it her "Dormition".
I just know if the mother of Jesus is coming and giving you messages, then the world is in BIG trouble.
Think of a Marian apparition as being called to the principal’s office. Usually that means you are in big trouble.
You will never be able to explain our relationship with Mary to someone who doesn't want to understand. Perhaps you will find the unicorn, the protestant who truly wants to embrace all that Catholicism is, but, in my experience, trying to explain the difference between veneration and worship is pointless.
They need to be catechized on what worship is: ruclips.net/video/3meEf42Aq-g/видео.htmlsi=wmWaCXiA34dpeTbZ
Ah yes; it's so obvious. The difference between the color White and Titanium-Dioxide White. I'm just an unlearned fool, and God's retarded for leading me down this path. Fair enough, dawg.
Understanding is a grace; it is a gift of the Holy Spirit, and it produces the fruit of peace. If you are not at peace, you need understanding and should ask God for it. ❤
I try to take Trent Horn's advice and not judge any faith by those who practice it badly. That being said, the problem many (myself included) have with Catholics' relationship with Mary isn't that we don't understand what Catholics are SAYING.
The problem is that what many Catholics say they are doing and what they actually appear to be doing do not appear to be the same.
Though I don't use the term, I have no problem asking others for intercessional prayer, and I would say that I hold Mary in the highest of esteem. The problem is, I know more than a few Catholics whose entire prayer life consists of bowing before a small statue of Mary, praying the Hail Mary a bunch of times and thats it. Some will add in the random prayer to a coin with a Saint on it.
This is one of those "if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck" situations. Again, I understand what Catholics SAY, and I don't even really have a problem with the overall stance. I just think it's like saying "take look at this majestic eagle I have here" while it quacks away behind you.
@@ChancyC Yes precisely, it is not lack of understanding what Catholics are saying but rather the problem is that it seems to be a prayer of worship. Mary as Theotokos as the Orthodox view her I have no problem with, veneration as asking the living saints for intercessional prayer i have no problem with, but when i read the rosary it seems to me all too much to be a prayer directed at Mary more than anything.
Mary made herself a willing vessel of the Trinity through the Annunciation of the Holy Spirit and through her holy motherhood of The Incarnate Word. Marian apparitions are the Holy Spirit speaking to us THROUGH Mary. Turning away from them is turning away from a direct gift of the Spirit to us to bring us closer to Christ.
There is only one mediator between us and the Father. Mary was just human. Jesus was not
Father Pine, I’d love to hear your thoughts on why the church felt it was necessary to make Mary’s immaculate conception, and Mary’s assumption into dogmas that are mandatory for the faithful to believe. The other two Marian dogmas on her being the mother of God and her being ever virgin both seem to me to be about Christ, but the more recent dogmas seem all about Mary, so I don’t understand why the church felt necessary to make them mandatory to believe. I think these two dogmas, more than anything else the church teaches, are the biggest obstacles to protestants converting to Catholicism. I’d appreciate any insight you have.
Agree with all of this
The Orthodox don’t accept them either.
It's also a barrier between catholic and orthodox unity.
Ave Maria!
God bless you 🙏 and thank you 😊
Let's all pray 7 Hail Mary for the propagation of the Devotion to the Holy Face of Jesus and the Holy Rosary
I'm happy to hear this from a priest. Also, the Scripture and of course the Church cited as criteria that the apparitions should fit with the Gospel. I just encourage anyone to read in the light of the Gospel the messages of any apparition. Personally I've read Fatima's messages and it encourages to repent but also to devotion to the apparition itself and promesse salvation to those who pray the rosary. In the scriptures, there is no verse that says that salvation will come from praying the rosary. Myself, I've been to Fatima, and I've seen people crawling on their knees in from of Fatima's statue. This is clearly worship and that cannot come from God. The real virgin Mary would never approve something like that.
People on their knees is a sign of Respect. Jesus would approve of his mother being respected (just a hunch)
@@anitasez I mean no offend but God (who is also Jesus) says in Exodus 20:4 "You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God". One thing is having images as recalling but another thing is bowing down to them. Furthermore, neither Peter (Acts 10:25-26) nor the Angel (Revelation 20:8-9) allow any of that. So it's safe to assume that the virgin Mary (as humble as she was) would also never allow that. God bless!
You ought to study your faith a little better...
@@jeffreykalb9752 Yes, we should keep studying everyday our faith. Just to mention, many of the early christians refused to offer incense to Roman statues (even though they told them to take that as mere formality) and they without a doubt accepted martyrdom for that reason. Pope Clement was one of the first victims, Simeon, bishop of Jerusalem was crucified, Ignatius of Antioch was sent to the lions. They were as catholics as we are nowadays. They knew that any kind of kneeling, prostation or incense offering was only to be directed to God.
People crawling on their knees is an act of penance or suffering united to the passion of Jesus. It has zero to do with worship.
Thank you, Fr. Pine. I'm finding myself attracted more and more to devotion to Our Lady of Medjugorje and I found this very helpful.
You know that the Church does not even approve that apparition. And from the begging the priest from Medjugorje where against that apparition.
@@joshuarivera2422 The church has approved Medjugorje as a pilgrimage site. Beat it.
Medjugorje is a wonderful place full of peace and prayer. many people were converted in Medjugorje, many priests received a call from God. I was there for the first time in 1982, and I've been following what's happening ever since. I have no doubt that Our Lady in Medjugorje is doing great things for the world.
@@tonciclinardic4478 even Pope Francis said that it never happened...
@@joshuarivera2422 Really, he told you that?!? :))
I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I know what I saw, heard and felt. The fruits of Medjugorje are extraordinary. Whoever believes believes, it is not mandatory.
As I study the heresies, good Mariology leads to good Christology. As soon you throw our Lady by the wayside, Christology gets very low and/or it starts flirting with heresy. For example, if you say Mary is not the mother of God, you separate Christ’s divinity from His humanity and then it gets super wonky really quickly.
I absolutely love what I heard Fr. Dan Reehil say about Mary:
“Mary isn’t God, but He’s given her great authority and power and the ability to distribute grace through her hands because of His love for her. And the only thing she does is lead people back to Him. The fastest way to get to Jesus is through His mother because He designed it that way, not because it has to be, but because He wanted it to be. This is the way He came to meet us…through her, and so He wants us to go through her to meet Him, similarly going back.”
And that explanation is where some Catholics start to fail. It makes no sense that the faster way to Jesus is through her. Not only because the Bible does not mention anything even close to that, but because it makes no sense.
I don't believe that. To me it looks exactly like the false trinity because God does not lie or decieve. The very spirit of prophecy is testimony or witness to jesus as stated by the angel in revelation to John. Now pay attention here the reason why is because it's an abuse of doctrine of the trinity. God says "there is no savior apart from me" what Isaiah 9:6 tells us is that the messiah has the title everlasting father. So pay attention in the gospels the only way you get to the father is through the son and the only way you will ever get to the son is from the father because there is no savior apart from God himself. So saying Mary brings you to the son is no different than saying Mary brings you to the everlasting father in that context and it's just not true. In the end all the false worship is transferred to the antichrist. Dueteronomy 13:1 and jeramiah chapter 44 please read and consider. Make sure you know the lord, not all who say to him on that day will enter the kingdom of heaven, moreover they performed miracles and healings in his name but they were acts of evil because the only source of good is bringing glory to God himself and no created thing.
No, the fastest way to Jesus is directly. I say that as a Catholic.
Why is it faster to get to Jesus through Mary?
@@joshuarivera2422you sure?
12 Then sat Solomon upon the throne of David his father; and his kingdom was established greatly.
13 And Adonijah the son of Haggith came to Bathsheba the mother of Solomon. And she said, Comest thou peaceably? And he said, Peaceably.
14 He said moreover, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And she said, Say on.
15 And he said, Thou knowest that the kingdom was mine, and that all Israel set their faces on me, that I should reign: howbeit the kingdom is turned about, and is become my brother's: for it was his from the Lord.
16 And now I ask one petition of thee, deny me not. And she said unto him, Say on.
17 And he said, Speak, I pray thee, unto Solomon the king, (for he will not say thee nay,) that he give me Abishag the Shunammite to wife.
18 And Bathsheba said, Well; I will speak for thee unto the king.
19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.
20 Then she said, I desire one small petition of thee; I pray thee, say me not nay. And the king said unto her, Ask on, my mother: for I will not say thee nay.
Considering this new document regarding apparitons, is this not the equivalent of bride church turning her back and declaring “we refuse to acknowledge God”…. BRIDE CHURCH! Denying the bridegroom and his messengers?!!!!!!
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life.
Just close your eyes and say “Jesus, I don’t have faith in you, please help me believe” Jesus loves you, turn to Him before it is too late. He loves you so much that He died for you. I’m praying for you❤🙏
Speaking of maintaining a spirit of proportion, what of people who mostly pray to Mary? How often is Hail Mary said vs Our Father?
There's a nice 10 to 1 ratio in the rosary. I think that is instructive.
At the very center of the Hail Mary is Jesus: Blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb: JESUS!
The number is not the issue. The Rosary, for example, is a mediation on the life of Christ. It begins and ends with the invocation of the Trinity. Each set of mysteries begins with the Lord’s Prayer and ends with the Doxology (Trinity again). God is the anchor of the whole thing. The Angelic Salutation (Hail, Mary) reminds us we’re accompanying Mary as we contemplate the events in Christ’s life.
@stephenjohnson791 5 then why not just meditate on the life of Christ?
@@hopefull61256 No problem but Mary is full of grace, she magnifies the Lord.
We worship God alone, the Father who created us, Jesus Christ the Divine Logos who redeemed us and the Holy Spirit who sanctifies us and dwells within us, we worship the Holy Trinity.
With Mary Our Blessed Mother, St Joseph, the Angels, Martyrs and Saints we give all praise, thanksgiving and worship before the throne of God. At every Mass we say this before the Lamb of God.. Jesus is King, Mary is Queen
Ave Maria 🙏
Yes.
On a practical level, Mary provides a richness to our faith that is absent in Protestant variations of Christianity. She provides an example of femininity in its most holy form, which gives women someone to relate to in an otherwise very male dominated religious tradition.
There are many women in the Bible to look up to. Doesn't mean we pray to them
True, but none of those other Biblical women are literally conceived by the Holy Spirit and birthed Christ. Beseeching our Lady to Pray for us is a good thing.
I’m not Catholic yet but would I need to believe in Apparitions of Holy Mary once I become Catholic? Thank you
No, you don't have to, even if the apparition is approved by the Church (like Lourdes, Fatima, etc.).
Anyway: main recommendation of recently approved apparitions is daily Rosary.
It's not strictly necessary... but highly recommended. I can ensure it's a very powerful prayer that lets you contemplate the life of Jesus through the eyes of Mary.
Even more important: frequent Eucharist (possibly daily) and Confession (at least once a month).
You're welcome to the Catholic Church in any case :) come home. Jesus calls.
But beware a lot of catholic will act like you do, even though it is not church teaching
quote:
CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
SECOND EDITION
67 Throughout the ages, there have been so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ's definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.
Christian faith cannot accept "revelations" that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment, as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves on such "revelations".
end quote
The gist: Apparitions of the Virgin Mary, such as those at Lourdes or Fatima, are considered private revelations. The Church may recognize them as worthy of belief, but they are not obligatory for all Catholics to believe. Your faith as a Catholic is based on Scripture, Tradition, and the teachings of the Church. If you find personal spiritual enrichment in Marian apparitions, you are welcome to embrace them, but your standing as a Catholic does not depend on it.
@@LorenzoGMP thank you!
Strictly no, bit they have been given ny God for our good and for our times.
If you saw Mary the blessed mother of God you’d be on your knees in no time. I’d know, she came to me in a dream
If the Mother of God thinks you need an apparition, then you need an apparition, pope or no pope.
NO! There. You saved some time. How about apparitions of Jesus? How about the intercesssor the Holy Spirit that guides us into all truth?
Ok then do you have any objections to the Sacred Heart or Divine Mercy devotions?
How about the Holy Mother that leads us into better relationship with Christ? Or are you fine with your relationship at the distance it currently is
Do you mean like the Protestants have who can't seem to agree on anything? Who is the Holy Spirit lying to?
I haven't watched the video, but my simple, first reaction to the question is: of course.
Okay, it's not part of the deposit of Faith, "public" revelation.
But Scripture itself says we can't bear all the knowledge at one go.
The Spirit will guide the Church into all the Truth, even telling us of things to come, as and when He sees fit to do so.
For example, the situation in Mexico in the early 16th century from what I've read is terrible. Heaven needed to intervene. So, thank God He sent Our Lady of Guadalupe.
We can also think of the great spiritual fruits of shrines like Lourdes and Fatima, where Our Lady appeared.
Sure, I guess you could say you don't *need* it, strictly speaking.
But that strikes me as an imprudent position, spiritually impoverished.
If God wants to send timely gifts and graces into specific points of history, I think it is good to read the signs of the times in the Spirit, and not reject His gifts.
Can I ask, why we need to come to Mary to get to Jesus? Is this a thing within Catholicism?
Next, and perhaps more importantly, if in order for Jesus to be immaculately conceived within Mary, she had to be immaculate herself ( I think I'm understanding this correctly ), and further, to be immaculately conceived, one must be conceived in an immaculate woman's womb, how then was Mary immaculate? Were her parents immaculate? Their parents?
Please don't take offense, I'm genuinely asking.
Thank you, and grace to you.
I’m no theologian, but according to the dogma, Mary was conceived immaculately “by a singular grace and privelege granted by Almighty God.” Her own mother would not have to have been conceived immaculately.
Please know, too, that the dogma wasn’t promulgated until the mid-19th century. It had been discussed and debated for centuries, and if I’m not mistaken, even Thomas Aquinas (13th century), considered one of the greatest Catholic theologians of all time, did not accept it. (I could be wrong about that, but I’ll leave it to someone with more knowledge about Aquinas than I have to make any needed correction.)
Regarding your first question, I was raised in the pre-Vatican II Church and even back then was never taught that one needs to “go through Mary” to get to Jesus. When it comes to Mary, I sometimes think that a lot of popular piety gets mixed up with actual Church teaching. Some Catholics might say, “Jesus came to us through Mary, so we go to Him through Mary.” Once again, popular piety, not dogmatic theology.
@@Kjt853 ahh ok very interesting, on both counts. Thank you for your honest answer. I will keep looking in to this. I’ve been looking in to Catholicism and orthodoxy over the last year or two, and I’m intrigued, but there are definitely hurdles in my way, perhaps due to my upbringing.
Thank you for taking the time to answer me on these though!
While not public revelation of the Jesus level. Marian apparations are of a public nature, so still pretty important. We wouldn't get them if they weren't.
Protestants know perfectly well we don't worship Mary and yet they're under every single video yelling at Catholics about Mary, idolatry and so on.
And you can explain in detail the difference between adoration and venerarion, it will be pointless because they don't want to listen.
And so the same argument will go on over and over again.
Seriously, it's become boring.
Yeah, and how are we suppose to explain anything else to them, if they're wrong on the basics. There is so much more to Mary!
In a sense people should get the doctrine first, before they ask stupid questions. What sort of people don't know what "intercession" means.
With that much spooky verbage, I'll never comprehend the Marian incorporation into all this. Much like LGBTQAIPP+, or the Transexual argument, or the Abortion argument. Too many specialized linguistic hurdles to consider the nuisance of. My approach to these Gordian Knots is to simply say no.
Yes, I find it deviates and deflects from the gospel truth and repentance and encourages superstition and cult like behaviour.
Short answer: no, Marian apparitions are not necessary.
That being said, if the Mother of God has something to say, it's probably wise to listen to her.
Not one Bible verse relating Mary read or cited
Even as a protestant i see that there must be a reason that God chose to go through the process of birth by a human mother and not just...appeared out of thin air. I love mary as the mother of Jesus who is also God, but i think its dangerous when in certain parts Jesus is put in the backseat and it honestly looks like pure mary worship. For me the bible clearly states that ONLY Jesus saves, not mary. But that doesnt mean we cant love and honor her.
With all these apparitions you would think she would have taken the opportunity to tell us what priests were doing to our children. Did she not know or did she not care?
She did say that many priests had become cesspools of impurity.
@@revelation1215 So she had an inkling but not the full picture or she kind of cared but didn't want to make a fuss?
@@kevinkelly2162 God is just. Not everyone receives justice in this fallen world.
«Shortly after the mid-Twentieth Century, the passions will erupt and there will be a total corruption of customs for Satan will reign almost completely by means of the Masonic sect».
«The Sacrament of Matrimony, which symbolizes the union of Christ with His Church, will be attacked and deeply profaned. Freemasonry, which will then in power, will approve iniquitous laws with the aim of doing away with this Sacrament».
«Moreover, in these unhappy times, there will be unbridled lust …Innocence will almost no longer be found in children nor modesty in women. In this supreme moment of need of the Church, that one who should speak will fall silent».
«During this epoch, the Church will find Herself attacked by terrible hordes of the Masonic sect …The vices of impurity, of blasphemy and sacrilege will dominate, in these times of depraved desolation and that one who should speak will fall silent».
«The fury of the devil, in trying to raze the Catholic Church, would be served by Her children who would lose their faith.They would work to oppress the Church, and prevent public devotion for they would have already entered the party of Satan, by becoming members of Masonic Lodges… and the loathsome and pestiferous wild boar of Freemasonry would enter the beautiful and flourishing vineyard of the Church, leaving it in complete ruins and destroyed».
«The Masonic Sect will be so subtle as to penetrate into the heart of families in order to corrupt the children, and the Devil will pride himself in dining upon the exquisite delicacy of the hearts of children».
«Know that the Divine Justice sends terrible punishments on entire nations, not only for the sins of the people, but above all for the sins of Priests and Religious… Deviating from their sublime mission they will deteriorate to the point where that, in the eyes of God, they are the ones to accelerate the severity of punishment».
«The priests, ministers of My Son for their evil life, for their irreverence and their impiety in celebrating the Holy Mysteries, for the love of money, honors and pleasures, the priests have become cesspools of impurity. Yes, the priests ask for their revenge and revenge is suspended over their heads».
«Woe to the Princes of the Church who think only of piling riches, to protect their authority and dominate with pride».
«The Church will be abandoned to great persecutions, that one will be the time of darkness, and the Church will have a horrible crisis… ».
«Tremble, earth, and you who proclaim yourselves to worship Jesus Christ, but, on the inside, only worship yourselves, tremble, for God will hand you over to His enemy because the holy places are in the state of corruption…».
«ROME WILL LOSE THE FAITH AND BECOME THE SEAT OF THE ANTICHRISTS. «The Church will be eclipsed…».
«It’s time. The sun is darkening, Faith alone will survive! Now is the time, the abyss is opening. Here is the king of darkness, here is the Beast with his subjects, calling himself the Savior of the world. He will rise proudly into the air to go up to Heaven… ».
«Then water and fire will purge the earth and will consume all the works of men’s pride and all will be renewed:
God will be served and glorified».
Yes we need Marian Apparitions because God gives them to us
That's not Church teaching. apprations don't belong to the deposit of the faith
No, this is just a distraction from the point of Christianity. Our faith is based on the risen Christ, not on Mary and the saints.
Our faith is based on following truth. If we get off track, it is good for our mother to help us instead of ignoring her.
@@revelation1215 so I think you meant to say God instead of mother. That or you think Mary is the arbiter of truth.
Exactly, In my catholic family the faith centred around apparitions and chastisements. Jesus was in the background.
@@thejanxxmaster Mary is part of the mystical body of Christ, the church. God can work through whomever he chooses.
As a born again catholic, I can say that this is the biggest problem and mistake with the catholic church(other than the pope). Many people throughout history were chosen by God because they lived a sinless and righteous life. It doesn’t mean that we should worship them. Christ alone is the way the truth and the life. Mary and the pope were NOT included in the trinity. Yes, we honor the blessed Virgin Mary. But that is all. What I do love is Holy communion, a traditional mass, and the holy Eucharist. The church is not a perfect institution by any means, but it is wonderful.
If you think Mary and the Pope are "problems", you are not really Catholic. I think you're playing a game of pretend Catholic.
Agree
Hello Robbie, can you please expand on what you mean by being a born again Catholic? I am a protestant who is considering C.atholicism
@@Tyler-iv7po in the Catholic Church, these are the sacraments of baptism and confirmation.
@@revelation1215 Thank you
No, you don't need to believe in Marian apparitions as a Catholic. Saved you guys 13 minutes
I was homeless, did drugs, went into prison, where I got to know God. He changed my life. Now I have a home, a wife and a lovely year old daughter (zoe), and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 weekly. Plus a new identity - a child of God, Hallelujah!!!🇺🇲❣️♥️❤️
Excuse me for real?,how is that
possible I have struggling
financially, how was that possible?
Thanks to Elizabeth Marie Hawley.
I always appreciate God for his kindness upon my life
YES!!! That's exactly her name (Elizabeth Maria Hawley) so many people have recommended highly about her and am just starting with her 😊 from Brisbane Australia🇦🇺
I have heard a lot of wonderful things about Elizabeth Maria Hawley on the news but didn't believe it until now. I'm definitely trying her out
It would appear to me that the Catholic Church has outsmarted itself once again - congratulations. The Blessed Mother has already revealed the apostasy at the Cardinal level.
Among many other things.
Before I watch this... is this about when people see Mother Mary in a piece of toast or something?
I find your statement, “ christ, was cast into Mary’s mold” incredibly offensive. Mary was a wonderful person by man’s standards, and she was certainly privileged and blessed to be the earthly mother of Jesus but she was absolutely sinful. Her basic nature was sinful, and she admitted herself that she needed Jesus to save her from her sins. And these apparitions that you claim are by Mary I truly believe are somewhatdemonic. There is absolutely no indication in scripture that a person who has passed away in this life will at times show them selves through some apparition. Towards the end of his earthly life, Jesus complained that humans are constantly looking for signs, but he added that the only sign left that he’s going to be given is that he will be dead for three days and come back to life. That’s it. and may I just add, practically every pagan religion has some woman involved in the upper echelon or part of deity.
Good luck getting to Heaven without Mary. 🫡
Is this church teaching? Baptism? Eucharist? Sacraments? Not enough?