As someone of Japanese descent I'm flattered by the similarities. After all, without mainland knowledge, much of which came to us through Korea, there would be no swords in Japan (or writing, Confucianism, Buddhism, and so on). Some of our greatest accomplishments have been built directly upon innovations from the mainland and we owe them our gratitude. If the Koreans wish to incorporate aspects of our culture into theirs & modify it to their liking, then I applaud their open-minded efforts.
Problem is they make up bs by saying stuff like "samurais originated in korea" or "katanas are a korean invention" or "iaido comes from haidong gumdo" and such They keep fabricating stuff up and spreading false info on Japanese martial arts instead of accepting the fact that this "haidong gumdo" thing is a recent martial art developed in the 20th century based on Japanese Iaido & kenjutsu techniques, and has nothing to do with korean swordmanship what so ever
@MrManifolder No wonder you Koreans are hated everywhere. Stop pretending to be Japanese and spreading lies and fabrications. The only traditional martial arts in Korea was archery. That is what your original and official history books say.
Korean mostly founded country by military arts such as Korea dynasty, Chosun dynasty. We decend this tradition which we fogot in Emperial period. Master Han was very genius, creative martial artist. He used to teach and demonstrate Kuksuldo in highschool period. I learned a little bit from him. He could walk on the wall and kick the top of the gym. He entered in Haedonggumdo in juvenile. He loved research all the meaning of form. He taught that in U.S.A and Europe. He recognized respect, hamony are most important method to realized human value in postmodern society. Now he is praticing Korian traditional archery. The military art people made a unification and new world historically.
Let me clear it out for all the angry comments here. Kumdo literally means swordmanship like kendo. So those that say that the term kumdo is a copy of kendo has no idea about what they are talking about. And yes, kumdo did derive from kendo, but in that sense japanese karate would be a copy of kung-fu! Many martial arts started out as a copy or an equivalent of other martial arts. Yes, It did derive from kendo but considering its short history, it is not that strange to see many similarities with japanese kendo. Lastly, it does have its unique characteristics especially when it comes to haedong kumdo.
@@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 "Karate" is an Okinawan martial art, and kung fu is a general term for Chinese martial arts. The two are unrelated. The training method of karate is influenced by the training method of kendo.
just to be clear, the japanese swordsmithing and swordplay hold their roots in korean swordsmithing and swordplay and vice versa. now this may seem contradictory but, throughout the centuries, the countries are so old that both styles have influenced each other, and have interwined. they still have individual styles in certain parts but many are and will always be the same. some techniques have just resulted as the best solution i.e. the basic downward swing and coincidentally were the same.
@@porkcutlet3920 Kenjutsu, Kendo is a sport ; Kenjutsu is the Martial Art and I see many similarity with what you mention and with Italian Medieval swordmanship and Kenjutsu Schools Tecniques for example with Shindo Munen Ryu
There is no Korean influence on Japanese kendo or swordsmithing. Japanese kendo became popular in Korea when Japan ruled the Korean peninsula. Korea, which became independent after the war, made a history of kendo for self-esteem and educated what it taught to Japan.
That's completely false, and there is literally zero proofs of your claims. I love korean culture and history, but you guys have the arrogance to claim that japanese culture is derived from yours; you can't spread lies and expect people to be ok with it.
human beings got to japan via korea. makes sense that much culture willhavemade this trek as well. whats so hard to understand here? cultures in close relationship,even if contentious,do share a place and time. so expressions will be related. both k and j are part of greater china in this way. much as rome influence all later european nations.
I am American and very into Japanese culture and history. But I love Asian culture as a whole. And no, Not like where some Americans will talk about... They love Asia but only mention... S Korea, Japan and China. No... Asian culture has way more then that, And I love learning about them all. Japan is just my favorite, But we have a Haidong Gumdo school in here where I am from. And I am into martial arts especially swords. I decided to join a haidong gumdo school and its going to be very soon. I am having my niece who is going on 8 join me when she turns 8. I can't wait!
Actually, the katana came from Korea. The Japanese may have improved on the craftsmanship and metallurgy, but the sword style is PURE Korean that the Japanese took on.
Korea had superb fighters in the past, but their expertise was the bow, not the sword. Come on, why is so hard for Koreans in average to accept that Tae Kwon Do (copy of Japanese karate) and Haidong Gumdo (copy of Japanese Kendo) are relatively modern martial arts derived from those mentioned?. There's nothing wrong about being a modern art. Aikido for example is modern art based on Dayto Ryu Aikijutsu, so Morihei Ueshiba took its principles and created his version of a more soft and defensive-only martial art, and is a great and superb modern martial art. Jeet Kune do is the same, Bruce Lee took what he considered was useful from many martial arts (not only Chinese) and made his own modern martial art. Even martial arts considered "ancient" (from 900 or 1000 years ago or even more) are just adaptations and modifications of more ancient styles of fights, all the way through the Indian martial arts which I think are the most ancient as historians were able to track back. So, Shaolin style derived from the teaching of an Indian priest called Bodhidharma that arrived to the Shaolin monks temple and taughted them to fight. Also, Okinawan Karate comes from Chinese martial arts, when some Chinese arrived to the coast of Japan. So my point is, there's nothing wrong on accepting the origins of a martial arts, so why the heck many Koreans are saying that this Haidong Gumdo and other of their modern martial arts are "ancient", coming from the Three Kingdoms era??. That's BS, is only misinformed propaganda and wrong nationalism based in lies.
there is a 16 hours seminary over this style in USA that acknowledge you as a 10th dan over this art. So basically is a holliwood style with a lot of open points to get hurt and more of a show style. i've seen many BUSHIDO katas (real meaning of way of the sword) original from Okinawa back in time when Matsumura Sokon was the 1st student of Anko Itosu pioneer of the very first martial art and believe me that a real kenjutsu style wont give you any blind point to get stab like this one do
I just do not understand why always have to compare all korea and Japan. Yes, the swords are similar but the martial arts are completely different. In Japan, the art of sword-pulling is taught, Iaido. In haidong gumdo is mostly fought with drawn weapon. In addition, many people forget that much of Korean culture was destroyed by Japan and replaced by its own. So it's no wonder that there are certain similarities. Do not understand the hate. Live and let live!
There is no Korean influence on Japanese kendo or swordsmithing. Japanese kendo became popular in Korea when Japan ruled the Korean peninsula. Korea, which became independent after the war, made a history of kendo for self-esteem and educated what it taught to Japan. Due to the influence of the Japanese colonial era, there are many similarities between modern Japanese and Korean culture. In the first place, in Korea, there is no spiritual world called "do" that originated from Shinto.
The common characteristic that Korean traditional martial arts have. ・ All Korean traditional martial arts were created after Ww2. (they copied Japanese martial arts) ・ The Korean traditional martial arts do not use Korean traditional tool and Korean traditional clothes. ・ The Korean traditional martial arts refuse the contents of Korean historical materials. ・ The Korean traditional martial arts insist on the lie history. ・ The Korean traditional martial arts give priority to money and appearance. ・ The base of Haidong Gumdo is a fight scene of the Japanese Samurai movie. Haidong Gumdo is not a martial art. Haidong Gumdo is a performance. ・ And they are helped as traditional martial arts by the Korean government. The Korean government is a pioneer of the false Korean traditional martial arts business.
***** Korea.China. Japan. The United States. The contents which are common in these historical materials. ”For a Korean, the martial arts are objects of the their contempt" The record by the American of the 19th century. "The Korean soldier does not have a sword" "However, only the commander carried Nihonto which got rusty" 1985. The Haidongkumudo founder testified in a Korean court. "Haidongkumudo is my creation" The history of Haidongkumudo started by his having falsified Kumudo rank 7dan.
According to the recent Korean article, Haidongkumudo denominator is Choi Taemin of the religious cult leader.He is father of Choi Sungshil which controlled the existing Park President.Forgery tradition martial arts Haidongkumudo might be authorized as traditional martial arts by his having been close to the Park Presidents.
have to disagree. no matter who started the advanced single edged sword developments in east asia,japan pushed them to their ultimate expression.the sword literally has not gone much further than what was done in japan. and headong g does appear to be a derivative of kenjutsu and its martial and aesthetic culture.
ugh running at each other with shinken, is like sweeping your partners head with a loaded firearm on purpose... makes me kinda sick just watching that -___-';;
Even Kumdo and Taekwondo are not martial arts but martial arts, it is easy to see that it is just a performance show It is a wasteful move considering how good it is to show, and a number of techniques that are not likely to be used actually I can laugh at looking It seems that the type of acting was made with reference to the action movie It is a dance incorporating a cool fight scene of action movie It is an imitation that the essence of martial arts can not be understood, so how cool and strong for the spectators who are watching I clearly understood the feeling that "I will show it to you" and "Please look at such sophisticated and cool movements" I understand well "I want to tell you that martial arts is not intended for such things" It will be impossible Show part
taekwondo is used by current day korean army so it very literally is a martial art now this this looks cool but in comparison to its counter part kendo its very much a copy and he even says inspired by the Japanese arts
There is no record but origin is South Korea.Confucius is a Korean. It is not Chinese.Records of Japanese swords, many of which are described in foreign literature. There are few records of Korean swords.However Korea originated.
and i thought people of african decent had problems with reconciling themselves to modern world of global cultural exchange. sheeeze east asians seem far worse. meanwhile,the nations ofthat area have far more in common with each other as a matter of fact,than with any other area of the inhabited earth. u are brothers and sisters. no matter how iddiotic ur relational history. all humans are indeed brothers.
アクション映画のファイトシーンは格好良くて強そうですが 実際のファイトとは全く違いますよね あれは映画鑑賞用に作られた 映画のための動きであって、実戦で使えるかなどとは考えていませんよね それがわかれば テコンドーやクムドの型や演舞がただのショー的なパフォーマンスであって「武道の技量」とは関係ない事が理解できると思いますが・・・ The action movie's fight scene is cool and strong, but it is quite different from the actual fight It is a movement for a movie made for movie watching, and I do not think that it can be used in actual battle I guess I can understand that Taekwondo or Kumudo's type and performance is just a show performance and not related to "martial art skill" if I understand it ..
2000 years ago and the end of the 16 th century (twice) 2000 years ago, I surrendered almost without fighting. It is also written in Kuwangaedo wang inscription, which Koreans in China are proud of as "ancestors". "The south of Korea was dominated by the Japanese, the king submitted it to Japan as a hostage for the royal family" Until the sixth century, the south of Korea was the dominant land of Japan. 16 th century. Imjinwar. Invasion of Korea by Hideyoshi. First time. Japan repeated the half-day battle and the two-day holiday, and occupied Seoul after 29 days. And the first enemy was cold and food shortage. Many of the swords in the Korean Royal Palace arsenal were rusty and could not be used. Second time. It is almost the same as last time. By the death of Hideyoshi, Japan and China made peace. after that. Korea bought a martial arts book from China. (Copy of Japanese martial art book) And they imported Nihonto.
From the 14th century to 1895, Korea was a Chinese slave country. (Ming & Qin) 1895. According to Article 1 of the Shimonoseki treaty between Japan and Qin, Korea became independent from China. 1910. The Joseon dynasty failed to repay the huge external debt made by the king and queen. (I also did not make efforts for that) The king begged for consolidation to Japan. With the approval of the United States and Europe, Japan annexed Korea. There was no gunshot of a shot there. In the history education by the Korean government, it is "armed invasion by Japan". From the 19th century, Japan had military training to the Korean army. In Korean traditional thought, labor and martial arts training is "a desperate act of slave only". After 1910. Excellent Korean people were recommended for military academies in Japan. In 1945, the Prince Joseon Dynasty is Lieutenant General of the Japanese Army. President Park was the lieutenant of the Japanese Army. All the Korean commanders in the Korean War are former Japanese soldiers' Korean officers.
1985. At the Korean court, the founder of Haedong Kumudo testified. "Haedong Kumudo is our creation and it has nothing to do with the history of Korea."
c'est fatiguant les gens qui se prennent pour des connaisseurs... ramenez moi des sabreurs coréens ou japonais ou chinois aussi bons que dans cette video et on pourra parler après... c'est juste énorme! Ceux qui ne le vois pas peuvent se crever les yeux
Why hate Korea? It not their fault they were stuck between Japan and china. What's wrong with them claiming this or that? Japan is guilty of the same. Instead you should get yourself in to a sword fight and if you live to tell about it than maybe your opinion on the subject might hold water. Until then enough with the nonsense.
It’s the fact that Japan has worked hard to preserve their martial arts for so long and Korea is simply claiming it as being their own traditional martial arts. How do you see nothing wrong with it? Adopting another’s traditions isn’t wrong but claiming that you had it all along and even gave it to the culture you really stole it from is so fucked up. Japan did borrow things from other cultures, but they were never ashamed of it nor did they try to hide it
Japan has a great history and I love it, but as all nations they have dark periods. For the history of Sword Marial Arts, well Japan is not the first to have invented it. And they are not the last. Haidong Gumdo is a modern & traditionel Sword Martial Art. The System is founded in the first years of the 1980´s but have it roots go back 200 years in time to the 1800-century. And it is made in Korea by Koreans so how much more are there to say? It is a Korean Sword Martial Art!
I'm Korean and I know that the Japanese sword arts is better than Korea's because my father is Korean but has practiced Kendo instead of Gumdo. But, Korea's history lasts 10,000 years and Japan's history only last for about 2000 years, so Korean did not copy Japan in any other martial arts besides Kendo and some other food products haha. I'm sorry if I have offended your country in any sort of way but i didn't mean to.
give me what you smoke dude, kenjutsu is original from okinawa and who brought it out was Matsumura after he got out from the shaolin temples after learning their style. he found himself trapped over many probs facing a katana and fix some blind spots right after. get a grip dude and do be so full of what you think korea "did".
Kenjustus from Okinawa? Better learn fact before blowing hot air. Okinawa was (a not a part of Japan until recent times and b) Okinawans never, ever used swords.
Actually, Daehan Kumdo is korean kendo and doesn't pretend to be anything else., Haedong Gumdo is Kenjutsu, Gicheon Ilsu Kung Fu and cinematic swordfighting. But who gives a crap if it does not have a lineage that stretches back a million billion years. Its fun. And I know it can be effective because I use Haedong Gumdo techniques in my European Longsword steel sparring.
So... these guys are to Japanese swordsmanship (and it's so obviously plagiarized from Japanese) as what Harlem Globetrotters are to NBA basketball. Got it.
+Miko Espenilla Yes exactly. I mean, why play soccer when you can just make a soccer ball cannon to shoot the ball into the goal? Why play ice hockey when you can just shoot the puck into the net? Why watch violent tv shows when you can just shoot people? Why play an FPS when you can just shoot people? It's a hobby dude. And it's exercise. Let people enjoy the things they enjoy.
They are wearing Korean Keigogi (similar to Hakama) using Korean swords called ssangsoodo (similar to Katana). You realize the two countries are 150 miles apart, right? Their combat systems, martial arts, food, language all have so many things in common its impossible to keep track of. Remember too, the korean peninsula was inhabited long before Japan was, and more importantly, as far as the quintessential "samurai" goes, the Korean warrior had a HUGE hand in crafting it in Japan. Something Japanese won't readily tell you, and japan-fans don't like to admit. The two cultures and as a consequence, martial arts, are very similar.
yes, japanese people traveled from korea but that is like the prehistoric age. if samurai originated in korea then it should have rules korea like it did in japan. take a look at korea and japan a hundred years ago. there was no such things as hakama in korean clothes. they only have the yangban scholars
I just can't believe that people think that kumdo is based off of Japan because the Japanese art of the sword is kendo while Koreans are kumdo , plus I am Korean and I take kumdo class.
This show is simillar to Japanese Budo's it.But,this show is fake.Budo is Japanese traditional culture.Korea do not have Budo culture.Budo includs it's spiritual world like phirosophy.This show is only entertaitent.Please understand it.
which means they gotta be very prepare to get chopped... kendo doesnt have a blocking system, its all about getting hit and hit the other guy non-stop... which makes it a stupid sport.
@cla52470 Dude koreans where using swords before china, This is found in CHINESE records, I practise wushu and have been studing Martial arts history (not through a SINGLE school sistem) and really u cant say that such a thing is only from that country, plus ALOT of suff from japan is from korea like buddism for example. I respect others thoughts but just dont go after koreans man seriously. Have a happy new year (no sarcasm) and i hope that we all learn more respect from here on out XD
You are aware that there haven't been samurai for a hundred years? You might find some similarities between Haidong Gumdo and some Japanese arts. Much like karate and taekwondo have similar kata. Which japanese art do you think these forms come from?
@@tristantsang4325 you’re right it doesn’t make it any less valid, but denying its origin and claiming to be rooted in hundreds of years in tradition is messed up
Not. Iaido is the mastering of the drawing, and resheathing (with live swords, in practice and at competitions, eventually). Kendo is playfighting with bamboo shinai or wooden bokken.
Ahahahaha! Totally bullshit! Kendo, pronounced kumdo in Korean, was introduced into Korean peninsula from the mainland (Japan) during the Japan's annexation of Korea Korea was just a part of Japan then
this is not only an insult to japan if not also for korea..... korea that has lost much of its history before the Japanese occupation does not mean they should plagiarize Japanese culture .. this is an offense for such honorable people as the Korean which has its own history.
James Cordial So what is it that in your only martial arts book, Muyedobotongji, it is said that Koreans only practiced archery as martial arts? How come these people wearing Japanese clothes and using Japanese swords?
James Cordial Where does it say? Hope? Why don't you read books written by Westeners who went there before the annexation to get some idea of what it was like in Korea.
What kind of childish words are to be read as coments here. And: the sword art is to be practised, not be looked at. Looking at sword practise is what fools do. So get your sword or your safety equipment and train. And shut up!
@@bhedrick101 what about the twirling, rolling, jumping, and other acrobatics? That’s not stylized? I think Haidong Gumdo is a lot more impractical than you think. None of that would work on a battlefield.
In Japan history, first steel swords come from china and korea. Thats right. BUT technik and style of Katana/Kenjutsu has nothing to do with the first curveless forms. Korea is coping and this in a really bad way.
As someone of Japanese descent I'm flattered by the similarities. After all, without mainland knowledge, much of which came to us through Korea, there would be no swords in Japan (or writing, Confucianism, Buddhism, and so on). Some of our greatest accomplishments have been built directly upon innovations from the mainland and we owe them our gratitude. If the Koreans wish to incorporate aspects of our culture into theirs & modify it to their liking, then I applaud their open-minded efforts.
I salute you, sir, for your open-minded and respectful attitude, something that has become exceptionally rare down here in the comments.
Problem is they make up bs by saying stuff like "samurais originated in korea" or "katanas are a korean invention" or "iaido comes from haidong gumdo" and such
They keep fabricating stuff up and spreading false info on Japanese martial arts instead of accepting the fact that this "haidong gumdo" thing is a recent martial art developed in the 20th century based on Japanese Iaido & kenjutsu techniques, and has nothing to do with korean swordmanship what so ever
@MrManifolder
No wonder you Koreans are hated everywhere.
Stop pretending to be Japanese and spreading lies and fabrications.
The only traditional martial arts in Korea was archery.
That is what your original and official history books say.
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@@hayek218
Fuck you, fuck off.
this guy just keeps talking. holy crap he just keeps talking....
Korean mostly founded country by military arts such as Korea dynasty, Chosun dynasty. We decend this tradition which we fogot in Emperial period. Master Han was very genius, creative martial artist. He used to teach and demonstrate Kuksuldo in highschool period. I learned a little bit from him. He could walk on the wall and kick the top of the gym. He entered in Haedonggumdo in juvenile. He loved research all the meaning of form. He taught that in U.S.A and Europe. He recognized respect, hamony are most important method to realized human value in postmodern society. Now he is praticing Korian traditional archery. The military art people made a unification and new world historically.
3:02 - When Fruit Ninja began...
Let me clear it out for all the angry comments here. Kumdo literally means swordmanship like kendo. So those that say that the term kumdo is a copy of kendo has no idea about what they are talking about. And yes, kumdo did derive from kendo, but in that sense japanese karate would be a copy of kung-fu! Many martial arts started out as a copy or an equivalent of other martial arts. Yes, It did derive from kendo but considering its short history, it is not that strange to see many similarities with japanese kendo. Lastly, it does have its unique characteristics especially when it comes to haedong kumdo.
Karate is not a copy, but a simplification of Kung Fu
Kendo is not to Cut is to Hit and achieve points due to is just a Sport
, the Martial Art is Kenjutsu
@@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699
"Karate" is an Okinawan martial art, and kung fu is a general term for Chinese martial arts.
The two are unrelated.
The training method of karate is influenced by the training method of kendo.
just to be clear, the japanese swordsmithing and swordplay hold their roots in korean swordsmithing and swordplay and vice versa. now this may seem contradictory but, throughout the centuries, the countries are so old that both styles have influenced each other, and have interwined. they still have individual styles in certain parts but many are and will always be the same. some techniques have just resulted as the best solution i.e. the basic downward swing and coincidentally were the same.
To be fair, there's only so many ways humans can efficiently swing a sword. There's remarkable similarity between German longsword and Kendo.
@@porkcutlet3920 Kenjutsu, Kendo is a sport ; Kenjutsu is the Martial Art and I see many similarity with what you mention and with Italian Medieval swordmanship and Kenjutsu Schools Tecniques for example with Shindo Munen Ryu
Not vice versa, the origin was korea
There is no Korean influence on Japanese kendo or swordsmithing. Japanese kendo became popular in Korea when Japan ruled the Korean peninsula.
Korea, which became independent after the war, made a history of kendo for self-esteem and educated what it taught to Japan.
That's completely false, and there is literally zero proofs of your claims. I love korean culture and history, but you guys have the arrogance to claim that japanese culture is derived from yours; you can't spread lies and expect people to be ok with it.
human beings got to japan via korea. makes sense that much culture willhavemade this trek as well. whats so hard to understand here? cultures in close relationship,even if contentious,do share a place and time. so expressions will be related. both k and j are part of greater china in this way. much as rome influence all later european nations.
40,000 years ago when mankind arrived in Japan, Japan and the continent were connected by land, and there was no topography called a peninsula.
This is a actual traditional martial art that I am a part. So stop hating on it because it's Korean, that's just idiotic and racist.
Traditionals are increasing victories actually.
Amazing
They have Japanese sword.
No. It's a different sword
Please watch "Problems in Korean martial arts and how to find good Dojo"
If ignorance is bliss, many of the commenters here are some of the happiest people on the planet.
I wish the commentator would stop talking Bollocks, its like he is reading Keye Luke lines as master Po from the TV series Kung Fu.
I am American and very into Japanese culture and history. But I love Asian culture as a whole. And no, Not like where some Americans will talk about... They love Asia but only mention... S Korea, Japan and China. No... Asian culture has way more then that, And I love learning about them all. Japan is just my favorite, But we have a Haidong Gumdo school in here where I am from. And I am into martial arts especially swords. I decided to join a haidong gumdo school and its going to be very soon. I am having my niece who is going on 8 join me when she turns 8. I can't wait!
Kumdoもテコンドーも演舞を見ると 武道ではなく、ただのパフォーマンスショーだというのがよくわかります いかに格好良くみせるかということを考えての無駄の多い動き、実際には使えそうもない技の数々です 見てて笑えます
演舞の型はアクション映画を参考にして作ったんだろうと思われます アクション映画のかっこいいファイトシーンを取り入れたダンスですね 武道の真髄が理解できてない模倣だから「見ている観客に いかに格好良く、強そうに見せるか」と「こんな洗練されたかっこいい動きを見て下さい」という気持ちはよくわかりました 「でも、武道ってそんな事を目的としてるんじゃないですよ」 って教えてあげたいけど・・・無理だろうね
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おっしゃる通りです。こういった動画を拡散していくしかないですね。
I just noticed something the blades are. Reversed
i will stick to studying kenjutsu for practical use and research.and i will look into hg as a case of specialized adaptation of the nihonto tradition.
Why are they wearing Japanese Kimono and Hakama, and wearing Japanese swords?
August Hayek Tradition korean garb looks dumb lol
It's not Japanese swords or suits
The sword is a Jin Gum, it's very similar to the katana but still a different sword. And the clothing is not just traditional Japanese but Korean too.
Azi Sandwich But it’s not lol you have actual koreans in the comments even saying this is fraudulent.
It comes from the times when Korea was ruled by Japan. The methodology is predominantly Korean but the sword and use of hakama comes from Japan.
There are two styles neighboring Korea. Chinese styles and Japanese ones. But I think the Koreans prefer Japanese style swords over jians and daos...
Not true. And the Korean sword was not a Japanese sword. It has a completely different build and it's made from very different parts.
Have you seen Kuk Sool Won?
The Korean martial art is pretty much flat copy of Chinese martial arts.
Kuk Sool Won is pure bullshit, plain and simple.
Actually, the katana came from Korea. The Japanese may have improved on the craftsmanship and metallurgy, but the sword style is PURE Korean that the Japanese took on.
@@KaptainCanuck lol here we go again with the korean "we wuz"
Korea always makes me laugh. They have a smart sense of humor. Thanks Korea. I love you.
It's kinda mixed Japanese (sword) and Chinese (movements) arts.
thisi is japanese TATE(sword action in the movie)
こういうおちゃらけに日本刀（まがい物だが）を使うんじゃない。誤解されるだろ。
agreed.
well said. sort of.
해동검도는 20세기에 만들어진 창작무술이죠 저것은 전통무술이라고 말하기가 어렵습니다.
@ʟᴏʀᴅ ᴀʟᴜᴄᴀʀᴅ™ imitating Japan.
@karatekid525 People don't hate on it because it's Korean. People hate on it because this is obviously plagiarized by Koreans from Japan.
정체성이 의심되는 검도군요!
Korea had superb fighters in the past, but their expertise was the bow, not the sword. Come on, why is so hard for Koreans in average to accept that Tae Kwon Do (copy of Japanese karate) and Haidong Gumdo (copy of Japanese Kendo) are relatively modern martial arts derived from those mentioned?. There's nothing wrong about being a modern art. Aikido for example is modern art based on Dayto Ryu Aikijutsu, so Morihei Ueshiba took its principles and created his version of a more soft and defensive-only martial art, and is a great and superb modern martial art. Jeet Kune do is the same, Bruce Lee took what he considered was useful from many martial arts (not only Chinese) and made his own modern martial art. Even martial arts considered "ancient" (from 900 or 1000 years ago or even more) are just adaptations and modifications of more ancient styles of fights, all the way through the Indian martial arts which I think are the most ancient as historians were able to track back. So, Shaolin style derived from the teaching of an Indian priest called Bodhidharma that arrived to the Shaolin monks temple and taughted them to fight. Also, Okinawan Karate comes from Chinese martial arts, when some Chinese arrived to the coast of Japan. So my point is, there's nothing wrong on accepting the origins of a martial arts, so why the heck many Koreans are saying that this Haidong Gumdo and other of their modern martial arts are "ancient", coming from the Three Kingdoms era??. That's BS, is only misinformed propaganda and wrong nationalism based in lies.
Well said brother! Good research I agree ☯️
there is a 16 hours seminary over this style in USA that acknowledge you as a 10th dan over this art. So basically is a holliwood style with a lot of open points to get hurt and more of a show style. i've seen many BUSHIDO katas (real meaning of way of the sword) original from Okinawa back in time when Matsumura Sokon was the 1st student of Anko Itosu pioneer of the very first martial art and believe me that a real kenjutsu style wont give you any blind point to get stab like this one do
No you did not because Okinawan never, ever used swords.
I just do not understand why always have to compare all korea and Japan. Yes, the swords are similar but the martial arts are completely different. In Japan, the art of sword-pulling is taught, Iaido. In haidong gumdo is mostly fought with drawn weapon. In addition, many people forget that much of Korean culture was destroyed by Japan and replaced by its own. So it's no wonder that there are certain similarities. Do not understand the hate. Live and let live!
There is no Korean influence on Japanese kendo or swordsmithing. Japanese kendo became popular in Korea when Japan ruled the Korean peninsula.
Korea, which became independent after the war, made a history of kendo for self-esteem and educated what it taught to Japan.
Due to the influence of the Japanese colonial era, there are many similarities between modern Japanese and Korean culture.
In the first place, in Korea, there is no spiritual world called "do" that originated from Shinto.
The common characteristic that Korean traditional martial arts have.
・ All Korean traditional martial arts were created after Ww2.
(they copied Japanese martial arts)
・ The Korean traditional martial arts do not use Korean traditional tool and Korean traditional clothes.
・ The Korean traditional martial arts refuse the contents of Korean historical materials.
・ The Korean traditional martial arts insist on the lie history.
・ The Korean traditional martial arts give priority to money and appearance.
・ The base of Haidong Gumdo is a fight scene of the Japanese Samurai movie.
Haidong Gumdo is not a martial art.
Haidong Gumdo is a performance.
・ And they are helped as traditional martial arts by the Korean government.
The Korean government is a pioneer of the false Korean traditional martial arts business.
*****
Korea.China. Japan. The United States.
The contents which are common in these historical materials.
”For a Korean, the martial arts are objects of the their contempt"
The record by the American of the 19th century.
"The Korean soldier does not have a sword"
"However, only the commander carried Nihonto which got rusty"
1985.
The Haidongkumudo founder testified in a Korean court.
"Haidongkumudo is my creation"
The history of Haidongkumudo started by his having falsified Kumudo rank 7dan.
@@taihuu25go very well researched
How are you japan
According to the recent Korean article, Haidongkumudo denominator is Choi Taemin of the religious cult leader.He is father of Choi Sungshil which controlled the existing Park President.Forgery tradition martial arts Haidongkumudo might be authorized as traditional martial arts by his having been close to the Park Presidents.
and you are not?
5:00 Fruit Cut…Fruitshop?
日本映画などは演出で激しく斬りあってるけど
真剣同士の戦いは一太刀当てれば一勝ちだから一瞬で終わるので実際はかなり地味
この動画のようにパフォーマンスとはいえ大振りしたり何度も飛んだり跳ねたりするのはおかしい。
戦場ならなおさら、どこの国でも鎧を着るのにこんな動き出来るとは思えない。
they should use their own swords with the red tassles and its a straight sword.
The red tassled, inordinately detailed swords were called "kum" and were single-handed twin-edged blades. The two-handed single edge were called "do".
They are not practitioners, but players.
I want to duel with them with a sword.
これはダンスというものです。
i feel that it is way too dangerous to play around with sharp swords like that
these are highly trained black belts. Yes it would be dangerous if you just grabbed a sword and started swinging
Folks, do your homework. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_swordsmanship (4th century swordmanship)
韓国ができたのは1947年だろ・・・
have to disagree. no matter who started the advanced single edged sword developments in east asia,japan pushed them to their ultimate expression.the sword literally has not gone much further than what was done in japan. and headong g does appear to be a derivative of kenjutsu and its martial and aesthetic culture.
ugh running at each other with shinken, is like sweeping your partners head with a loaded firearm on purpose... makes me kinda sick just watching that -___-';;
TKD is 1 of the imitations of karate
Hapkido is the one of aikido
Don't FAKE anything of ours if u hate Japan
Even Kumdo and Taekwondo are not martial arts but martial arts, it is easy to see that it is just a performance show It is a wasteful move considering how good it is to show, and a number of techniques that are not likely to be used actually I can laugh at looking
It seems that the type of acting was made with reference to the action movie It is a dance incorporating a cool fight scene of action movie It is an imitation that the essence of martial arts can not be understood, so how cool and strong for the spectators who are watching I clearly understood the feeling that "I will show it to you" and "Please look at such sophisticated and cool movements" I understand well "I want to tell you that martial arts is not intended for such things" It will be impossible
Show part
taekwondo is used by current day korean army so it very literally is a martial art now this this looks cool but in comparison to its counter part kendo its very much a copy and he even says inspired by the Japanese arts
Taekwondo moves and kicks are even used by many if not most UFC fighters today but I don't see many Karate practitioners in todays MMA.
@@davidkusanagi589 Taekwondo is a martial art derived from karate. Most of the techniques are derived from karate.
@@nitro2525k Stupid ones don't realize they are stupid.. like you.
There is no record but origin is South Korea.Confucius is a Korean. It is not Chinese.Records of Japanese swords, many of which are described in foreign literature. There are few records of Korean swords.However Korea originated.
sprit aye? ..........u mean spit dont u?
刀振り回したり、クルクル回ったりは勝手にやってれば良いです。
起源主張したり他を貶めたりするのが問題です。
だからバカにされたり、嫌われたりするのです。
自分に厳しく正直に、それを長期間(100年位)続けて出来ないといつまでたっても成長出来ないと思います。
and i thought people of african decent had problems with reconciling themselves to modern world of global cultural exchange. sheeeze east asians seem far worse. meanwhile,the nations ofthat area have far more in common with each other as a matter of fact,than with any other area of the inhabited earth. u are brothers and sisters. no matter how iddiotic ur relational history. all humans are indeed brothers.
it is true. what he said. sick or not.
Is Greekgodx narrating? lol
look at a map. can u get into (without wings) japan without going thru korea? so does anything enter japan from china? ....answer for urself.
Uhh, by boat? Seriously you are embarrassing…
Est-ce que c'est une danse pour les enfants?
He cAmes to germany hanover
お薬を飲み忘れですね。(^ω^)辛い物は控えてね。
LOL ... Just visit "アメリカ人が韓国人の剣道の嘘にブチ切れ Koreans stole Japan culture"
here on RUclips, and examine it. Copy and paste the words above,
kendo is not a fighting art. it is a sport. kumdo is the korean kendo equivalent.
Kendo is a FIGHTING art but is NOT a COMBAT art which kumdo tries to rectifiy as best they can.
funny
Japanese Sword 韓国の物ではない
6:21 hehehehehe
Essa coca é fanta haahahagag
アクション映画のファイトシーンは格好良くて強そうですが 実際のファイトとは全く違いますよね あれは映画鑑賞用に作られた 映画のための動きであって、実戦で使えるかなどとは考えていませんよね それがわかれば テコンドーやクムドの型や演舞がただのショー的なパフォーマンスであって「武道の技量」とは関係ない事が理解できると思いますが・・・
The action movie's fight scene is cool and strong, but it is quite different from the actual fight It is a movement for a movie made for movie watching, and I do not think that it can be used in actual battle I guess I can understand that Taekwondo or Kumudo's type and performance is just a show performance and not related to "martial art skill" if I understand it ..
How often was Korea conquert by Japan in the history?
2000 years ago and the end of the 16 th century (twice)
2000 years ago, I surrendered almost without fighting.
It is also written in Kuwangaedo wang inscription, which Koreans in China are proud of as "ancestors".
"The south of Korea was dominated by the Japanese, the king submitted it to Japan as a hostage for the royal family"
Until the sixth century, the south of Korea was the dominant land of Japan.
16 th century.
Imjinwar.
Invasion of Korea by Hideyoshi.
First time.
Japan repeated the half-day battle and the two-day holiday, and occupied Seoul after 29 days.
And the first enemy was cold and food shortage.
Many of the swords in the Korean Royal Palace arsenal were rusty and could not be used.
Second time.
It is almost the same as last time.
By the death of Hideyoshi, Japan and China made peace.
after that.
Korea bought a martial arts book from China.
(Copy of Japanese martial art book)
And they imported Nihonto.
From the 14th century to 1895, Korea was a Chinese slave country. (Ming & Qin)
1895.
According to Article 1 of the Shimonoseki treaty between Japan and Qin, Korea became independent from China.
1910.
The Joseon dynasty failed to repay the huge external debt made by the king and queen.
(I also did not make efforts for that)
The king begged for consolidation to Japan.
With the approval of the United States and Europe, Japan annexed Korea.
There was no gunshot of a shot there.
In the history education by the Korean government, it is "armed invasion by Japan".
From the 19th century, Japan had military training to the Korean army.
In Korean traditional thought, labor and martial arts training is "a desperate act of slave only".
After 1910.
Excellent Korean people were recommended for military academies in Japan.
In 1945, the Prince Joseon Dynasty is Lieutenant General of the Japanese Army.
President Park was the lieutenant of the Japanese Army.
All the Korean commanders in the Korean War are former Japanese soldiers' Korean officers.
1985.
At the Korean court, the founder of Haedong Kumudo testified.
"Haedong Kumudo is our creation and it has nothing to do with the history of Korea."
1910-1945
Yes, it was like the Nazis conquering europe and killing millions of people they did not like.
Japanese sword is excellent!
50 caliber machine gun is more excellent!
c'est fatiguant les gens qui se prennent pour des connaisseurs...
ramenez moi des sabreurs coréens ou japonais ou chinois aussi bons que dans cette video et on pourra parler après...
c'est juste énorme! Ceux qui ne le vois pas peuvent se crever les yeux
Why hate Korea? It not their fault they were stuck between Japan and china. What's wrong with them claiming this or that? Japan is guilty of the same. Instead you should get yourself in to a sword fight and if you live to tell about it than maybe your opinion on the subject might hold water. Until then enough with the nonsense.
It’s the fact that Japan has worked hard to preserve their martial arts for so long and Korea is simply claiming it as being their own traditional martial arts. How do you see nothing wrong with it? Adopting another’s traditions isn’t wrong but claiming that you had it all along and even gave it to the culture you really stole it from is so fucked up. Japan did borrow things from other cultures, but they were never ashamed of it nor did they try to hide it
アクロバティックな動き、見栄えの良さの追及はいいんじゃないの？ハリウッドチャンバラ。
ただ腕力で振り回してるだけ、柄も握ってるだけ、刃物で叩いてるだけで切ってない。
体に軸も無ければ重心も酷い。
ちなみにこれだと、あの変な見栄切ってるときに剣弾いたら、どっかすっ飛んでくよ？
もしこんなお遊戯が本当に起源ならば、こんな酷いのをベースにして殺人技にまで磨いた民族って、凄いと思うよ。
1970年代に、韓国人俳優が、日本の殺陣をベースに考案したフィクション伝統武術です。
創設理由は、俳優が「剣道7段」という嘘を、正当化する為だった。
訓練体系も何も無い時に、韓国政府は、「伝統武術」のお墨付きを与えたらしい。
海東剣道の命名者は、崔順実の父親らしい。
Why do they wear Jpanese costume? Faked from Japan.
Japan has a great history and I love it, but as all nations they have dark periods. For the history of Sword Marial Arts, well Japan is not the first to have invented it. And they are not the last. Haidong Gumdo is a modern & traditionel Sword Martial Art. The System is founded in the first years of the 1980´s but have it roots go back 200 years in time to the 1800-century. And it is made in Korea by Koreans so how much more are there to say? It is a Korean Sword Martial Art!
They are all lies.
In the first place, Korea was armed with short double-edged swords, shields and spears. Japanese swords existed only in Japan.
I'm Korean and I know that the Japanese sword arts is better than Korea's because my father is Korean but has practiced Kendo instead of Gumdo. But, Korea's history lasts 10,000 years and Japan's history only last for about 2000 years, so Korean did not copy Japan in any other martial arts besides Kendo and some other food products haha. I'm sorry if I have offended your country in any sort of way but i didn't mean to.
give me what you smoke dude, kenjutsu is original from okinawa and who brought it out was Matsumura after he got out from the shaolin temples after learning their style. he found himself trapped over many probs facing a katana and fix some blind spots right after. get a grip dude and do be so full of what you think korea "did".
Kenjustus from Okinawa? Better learn fact before blowing hot air. Okinawa was (a not a part of Japan until recent times and b) Okinawans never, ever used swords.
Actually, Daehan Kumdo is korean kendo and doesn't pretend to be anything else., Haedong Gumdo is Kenjutsu, Gicheon Ilsu Kung Fu and cinematic swordfighting. But who gives a crap if it does not have a lineage that stretches back a million billion years. Its fun. And I know it can be effective because I use Haedong Gumdo techniques in my European Longsword steel sparring.
So... these guys are to Japanese swordsmanship (and it's so obviously plagiarized from Japanese) as what Harlem Globetrotters are to NBA basketball. Got it.
What do you study?
Why learn this when you can shoot a gun?
+Miko Espenilla Because it is not so much the practicality, but the preservation of a way of life or a fashion of thinking.
+TenthDoctor I'm confused
+TenthDoctor I'm confused
+Miko Espenilla Yes exactly. I mean, why play soccer when you can just make a soccer ball cannon to shoot the ball into the goal? Why play ice hockey when you can just shoot the puck into the net? Why watch violent tv shows when you can just shoot people? Why play an FPS when you can just shoot people?
It's a hobby dude. And it's exercise. Let people enjoy the things they enjoy.
斬った後のあの無駄な動きは何なんだ
They are wearing Korean Keigogi (similar to Hakama) using Korean swords called ssangsoodo (similar to Katana). You realize the two countries are 150 miles apart, right? Their combat systems, martial arts, food, language all have so many things in common its impossible to keep track of. Remember too, the korean peninsula was inhabited long before Japan was, and more importantly, as far as the quintessential "samurai" goes, the Korean warrior had a HUGE hand in crafting it in Japan. Something Japanese won't readily tell you, and japan-fans don't like to admit. The two cultures and as a consequence, martial arts, are very similar.
yes, japanese people traveled from korea but that is like the prehistoric age. if samurai originated in korea then it should have rules korea like it did in japan. take a look at korea and japan a hundred years ago. there was no such things as hakama in korean clothes. they only have the yangban scholars
Hwarando warriors preceded the samurai (which is a Chinese word, by the way) by many decades if not a centuries.
I just can't believe that people think that kumdo is based off of Japan because the Japanese art of the sword is kendo while Koreans are kumdo , plus I am Korean and I take kumdo class.
You know that even the KKA states that Kumdo is based on Kendo.
@@alessandrozhang8455 it's useless to say it. He is Korean.
화려하게 할려고 돌고 자시고 하실까
베기 몇번하면 저정도 다하는데
격법은 짜고 치는 고스톱 예전 나도 초창기 해동인이었는데
The best swordsmanship,
Haidong Gumdo!!!!!
@karatekid525 Then you can claim to be a great Iaijutsu practitioner. I have no problem praising you as long as you don't claim this is Korean.
This show is simillar to Japanese Budo's it.But,this show is fake.Budo is Japanese traditional culture.Korea do not have Budo culture.Budo includs it's spiritual world like phirosophy.This show is only entertaitent.Please understand it.
dont know much about history do you
which means they gotta be very prepare to get chopped... kendo doesnt have a blocking system, its all about getting hit and hit the other guy non-stop... which makes it a stupid sport.
Bullshit!!
@cla52470 Also, there is no way cutting three apples in mid air, cutting through straw and bamboo is fake. I have seen and done it before!
健康体操？
@cla52470 Dude koreans where using swords before china, This is found in CHINESE records, I practise wushu and have been studing Martial arts history (not through a SINGLE school sistem) and really u cant say that such a thing is only from that country, plus ALOT of suff from japan is from korea like buddism for example.
I respect others thoughts but just dont go after koreans man seriously.
Have a happy new year (no sarcasm) and i hope that we all learn more respect from here on out XD
funny. Fake samurai
You are aware that there haven't been samurai for a hundred years? You might find some similarities between Haidong Gumdo and some Japanese arts. Much like karate and taekwondo have similar kata. Which japanese art do you think these forms come from?
@@kakuto435 and karate comes from Kung fu, doesn’t make it any less valid as a martial art
@@tristantsang4325 you’re right it doesn’t make it any less valid, but denying its origin and claiming to be rooted in hundreds of years in tradition is messed up
It looks like a copy of Japanese Iaido.
Not. Iaido is the mastering of the drawing, and resheathing (with live swords, in practice and at competitions, eventually). Kendo is playfighting with bamboo shinai or wooden bokken.
Korean history?lol
Is that as a China's slave?lol
Ahahahaha!
Totally bullshit!
Kendo, pronounced kumdo in Korean, was introduced into Korean peninsula from the mainland (Japan) during the Japan's annexation of Korea
Korea was just a part of Japan then
Unnecessary moving and action!!
I think they are learning to be a demon slayer.
this is not only an insult to japan if not also for korea..... korea that has lost much of its history before the Japanese occupation does not mean they should plagiarize Japanese culture .. this is an offense for such honorable people as the Korean which has its own history.
Haidong Gumdo is sooooo different compared to kendo...
jhonatan Z Korea didn't lose anything...it was stolen by the japanese
James Cordial
So what is it that in your only martial arts book, Muyedobotongji, it is
said that Koreans only practiced archery as martial arts?
How come these people wearing Japanese clothes and using Japanese
swords?
Maybe it is the japanese that stole it from the korens
James Cordial
Where does it say?
Hope?
Why don't you read books written by Westeners who went there before the annexation to get some idea of what it was like in Korea.
Copy cat by Korea
What Japanese kata was Shimsang copied from
What kind of childish words are to be read as coments here. And: the sword art is to be practised, not be looked at. Looking at sword practise is what fools do. So get your sword or your safety equipment and train. And shut up!
fake
nabeyan1997 yes that right
Korean style of japanese iaido... Nothing new or original
Iaido is a stylized art of drawing the sword and returning it into the scabbard. Haedong Gumdo is a fighting art with very little stylized parts.
@@bhedrick101 what about the twirling, rolling, jumping, and other acrobatics? That’s not stylized? I think Haidong Gumdo is a lot more impractical than you think. None of that would work on a battlefield.
What's this? say North Koreans.
In Japan history, first steel swords come from china and korea.
Thats right.
BUT technik and style of Katana/Kenjutsu has nothing to do with the first curveless forms.
Korea is coping and this in a really bad way.