These bag features are NON NEGOTIABLE (NN Podcast - EP5)
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
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In NN Podcast EP5, I sit down with Bo and Avishay for an in-depth discussion on the things that are NON NEGOTIABLE for us with bags.
In the episode we chat about...
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00:00 - Introduction and Non-Negotiables for Bags
14:00 - Features for Tech Pouches
19:00 - Aaron's Must-Have Features for Tech Pouches
32:00 - Must-Haves for EDC Bags
40:00 - Sling Bag Must-Haves
54:00 - Bo's Sling Bag Must-Haves
56:00 - AV's Sling Bag Must-Haves
01:00:00 - Aaron's Sling Bag Must-Haves
01:14:00 - Dealing with airline restrictions and personal items
01:18:00 - Benefits of 180-degree clamshell opening
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I agree with the liter thing, people fixate on this, but they should be looking at the footprint of the bag on their back to get a feel for the size for them. On the other hand, other people obsessed with measurement size who are worried about the bogeyman of "personal size limits" on "budget carries" or "fitting underseat". Having traveled a lot, like every bag thats not hardcase luggage fits underseat on most planes unless you get stuck with an electronic box in front of you. An extra inch in some dimension isn't the end of the world, bags are soft goods, if not overpacked they fit. If they make you check it in, they were looking to do so and you gave them a reason with how you packed, its not the end of the world, just adapt, thats what people do.
Preach!
Bo is like a bag philosopher, I like this man. Agreed on the BE's litres thing. I also think asthestic is subjective, like BS Errant and BE Citadel, both which I own are asthestically pleasing, Evergoods CPL & Goruck Heritage exterior are pretty nice too, they give off a minimal and utilitarianism vibe. But indeed, they are expensive, not to mention shipping cost. But hey, Evergoods now offer free shipping. Avi bright interior is spot on. I thought it is only my OCD with bags which I was ashamed to say, but really, bright interior is actually one of my top consideration before buying a bag.
he truly is - so wise
You shouldn’t be ashamed of having great taste 😉
Sling + travel backpack is the perfect combo. There’s no going back after you try it.
It’s such a game changer. 2 liter sling + 24 liter bag = light travels, never having to check, and all the access you need
@@Nomads.Nation
Aaron need your opinion.. I am traveling to Tokyo for a week. I am trying to narrow down my 3 "EDC" down to 2 EDC bag...
Which 2 would you pick of the following 3?
- Trakke Banana Cross Bag (2L sling)
- Ablecarry Thirteen (13L)
- Bellroy Venture Ready 26L
For context i'll have a carry on luggage with a packable Bellroy Lite Duffel inside to carry souvenir on return flight.
@@j0404t I've never reviewed any Trakke bags, but I'd say sling + small bag + luggage = best of all worlds
@@Nomads.Nation I just got the Able Carry 13 and i'm loving the way it feels. Looks and feels better in person. Might be leaning towards Able Carry for the compact size over the Bellroy. But the Venture Ready 26L is already on the way and I can't return it (ebay) lol
@@j0404tnice! If you are in the US/Canada try and sell your bag on the NN Marketplace
Thank you so much for having me on your podcast 🙏🏻🙏🏻 you and Bo are professionals💪
It was a pleasure AV! Looking forward to round 2
Another great one, keep it up guys !
Thanks! Will do!
Great ep. Love the passion and non filtered discussion saying what needs to be said.
NN Pod - always bringing the hot takes!
Awesome. Thanks guys.
Thanks for watching :)
1:05:32 I hear you! :) same issues, it’s been since 2019 that i didn’t travel like i used to (a very frequent flyer)
Love the discussion surrounding the tech pouches. I’m a massive Evergoods fan, however, there’s a little known tech pouch that’s newer and doesn’t get a whole lot of love…. The Tortuga Tech Organizer.
Reason being, it’s large enough to fit anything and everything you can in the CAP2, BUT it’s softer Xpac shell allows it to shrink down to a much smaller size if it’s not fully loaded out. Amazing tech pouch and conserves space as needed.
Great call! Love that tech pouch - I have one and am hoping to get a review live soon
Wandrd also makes good soft tech pouches, I sort of replaced my stiff alpaka ones with the wandrd ones which also have a strap mount for ad hoc sling usage.
@@jonuiuc I always like the idea of slings that can turn into pouches (by removing the straps) but I've never actually used the feature myself lol
I’m with Bo. He’s very specific and particular about the features he wants and I’m the same way.
As you should! Got so many options on the market might as well find your soul-pack
Great topic, the #1 thing I look for in a bag is Price vs Features and Materials
Good call!
Price makes all the difference I agree
I agree that the Citadel 25 is bigger than 25 liters but it's not 30 liters. Why? Because maths tells us it can't be: 50 x 31 x 18 cm = 27,9 liters while within the bag there's still a bunch of material which takes up space, too. Additionally I think that manufacturers don't necessarily name their products to state the exact volumes but to give a rough range, a "class tag" so people can have some kind of orientation. So the very best bet it to order one and test it yourself and send it back if you don't like it. Great episode!
Thanks mate!
I have said this before. Non-negotiable should be an interior color that makes things more easily visible.
here here!
True!
That was really nice to watch. Would it be possible for you to review daily objects tech pouch and backpacks ? I just found about them this week. They looks quite good.
Would appreciate your input on them aaron
Thanks so much and I’ll add your request to our (very very long) wish list 💪🏻
Man i hate front side vertical pockets. Ive always had stuff fall out. I use my bag next to me. On a desk or long haul trips in a vehicle. You would think it would be convenient but its really not. If you have a bag with at least a good three outer pockets, it will be the best. That's why i like the synic and Knack pack series one.
I feel very differently - love em! But that’s the beauty of the bag world these days, there’s a bag for everyone :)
it's useful for on body/swinging from shoulder access, not that great if the bag is placed down
I have been on the fence around the Evergoods tech bags and I am in total agreement with Bo, a 1.5 would be great! I'm leaning towards AER still. Great discussion!!
Thanks Dawn!
Non negotiable in any bag would have to be Sexy & Foxy with required functionality then durability & material would matter. Definitely a seasoned consumer priority. Love this NN podcast. Keep rocking guys.! Cheers from Australia.
Sexy and foxy… just like you ;)
55:37 i have the Aer city sling 2 and i sometimes use the loop to clip a Crdpouch (that has an embedded carabiner clip) or my RZE Quest Tote when it’s packed
You are quite the gear guru!
+1 for MX Master 3! EG CAP2 can fit if I am also traveling with CAP1.
Rumor has it there might be another CAP being released soon 😏
Videos with packing the bag out are useful to see vs the liter number on the spec sheet. I like to see if a bag can carry all the basic tech, clothes and shoes for the gym, toiletry kit, travel towel.
for sure!
Troubadour ridge backpack should get more attention. Its really good. Only one review. Danny reviewed it
We’ve got a few Troubadour reviews coming in a few weeks 🔥
I think an edc bag is crossover for both edc and for travel. Hence the black ember bag is an all rounder. Also they sell a smaller version.
100% - the best EDCs can also double for travel
I'm a bit shocked, Aaron, that you are just realizing the utilitarian nature of bringing a sling with a travel bag. Retired and living abroad, I never go anywhere without my sling. I regularly leave my travel bag behind and only take my sling, or combine my sling with an EDC. I can't remember the last time I left my house - errands, day trip, short trip, long trip - without taking my sling. I always want my valuables with me - wallet, phone, eye drops, pills, small snacks, water (Memobottle fits in sling), glasses, other small items. These are ALWAYS in my sling. 24/7. I've never had an issue at an airport taking both a bag and a sling on-board. Aside from wearing clothes every day, when I leave my house, there is nothing I take with me and ACCESS more than my sling. Even at home, my sling is always packed with the personal items I listed above. Oh, I need my wallet to buy something online? Where's my wallet? Nearby me, in my sling. Lol.
im late to the party haha but it feels good to have finally arrived
Hey Aaron, what's your go to travel backpack and sling combo at the moment?
Fyro Bag (22L) + Bellroy Venture Ready Sling 2.5L
If you need a bag now and can’t wait for Fyro Kickstarter, I’d probably go with something around 24L - maybe Aer Pro Pack or Able Carry Daily Plus
58:58 I’m not keen on magnetic keyring it’s easy to look them this s why i create my own elastic leeches using Peakdesign anchor clips
Nice!
Hey i did that too for a while! But the magnet’s “click”… unbeatable🫠
@ Bo. You keep the sling inside you bag at checking and take it out later.
I just keep it on me, or if I'm feeling paranoid I'll sling it around / behind my bag
Avi made a good point about the value of evergoods and how high they value themselves and why pay for that (i think evergoods is what he’s referring to) is the same as me and goruck. The build quality and such must be phenomenal, but the value and functionality of the products is TO ME mediocre cuz a lot of bags can do what goruck can do at 1/2 to 1/3 the cost.
makes total sense, I thought that was a great point by AV
Goruck, topo designs, evergoods, I could state more but i dont want to trigger an angry mob😅
I bought a CPL16 and that bag was very nice. The feel of the 840d was very nice, way better the. The cordura of either of my aer bags. The only reason I didn’t keep it was because I wasn’t happy with the fit of my 16” laptop. At 20l, I would be happier.
@@ltothep6289 interesting, I'd agree that it's a great bag (having reviewed the 24L version) but I never would have thought the material was better than Cordura (in my opinion)
I have a 15 liter backpack that I can fit more into than another, 20 liter backpack. That’s because the backpacks are shaped differently. The 15 liter backpack has a greater depth and is also squared on the top. The 20 liter backpack is taller and narrower, less deep, and has a rounded top.
Hence; liters can be lies 😂
What about Utility vest at the airport ?:) this is also why color and bag profile is important to stay lowkey
Never heard of a utility vest? 🤔
@@Nomads.Nation it’s a whole category of clothes , and you even have transformer garments like the backpack vest from Maharishi for instance
@@Gael_AGcool, I’ll check em out
I completely agree with Avishay, I hate Xpac. I think it's overrated unless you're always in the rain or something. Otherwise I don't get it.
I don't hate it, but I agree that it's overrated, and the most annoying thing about it is the people who are obsessed with it. They are like Crossfitters from the early 2000's 😂
Great zippers is a non negotiable!
Oh yea!
Avi, my dude, you are killing me. There's nothing wrong with x-pac and some of us actually prefer it. Many reasons, including wanting to avoid Jansport flashback. Seriously though dude, talk about poking a sleeping bear with the sharpest stick you can find, wow. Sorry it's not for you - that's perfectly ok, but it is for others.
loll, I used to feel the same way as Avi but XPAC has grown on me over the months
@@Nomads.Nation I used to feel the same way about patches but they too have grown on me, for the right bag / use. can't believe I just typed that. 🤣
@@DaveStern2 ooh, I still don't get the patch thing, but at this rate in about a year I'll be avidly collecting them 😂
Hey obviously to each their own I just said I don’t see the benefits of xpac besides being waterproof and very technical. I was referring to look and feel mostly, but everyone has their own taste and preferences.
@@av_gordon peace ✌
Am I the only female that is in this "nerdy bag world"??!!
Don't worry, I feel that sometimes but luckily a lot of female gamers, cosplayers and techwear enthusiastics are into this kind of stuff. Talked to my friends the other day and one of the things that they wish is brands being more accepting to brighter/pastel colours. So I got some into getting that Tomtoc x Monster Hunter Rise sling collab and they're loving it. Good thing Gears for Girls channel exist tho because there's a lack of female review channels out there. I think we just need more reviews from women in general so that others can have a better understanding in the edc and travel community. ^^
Yes, you are
Nope! Almost 30% of our audience is female and we made an entire channel dedicated for the ladies (check out Gear for the Girls). Also check out the NN Marketplace where we have an entire chat dedicated to women’s gear convos - district.net/nomads
No xpac, what’s wrong with you
It’s not for everyone 🤷🏻♂️
I’m starting to see that I am the minority in this 😶
I like conversatiin but can u do this with women Nd include your sister.
Great idea! What topics should we talk about? Me interviewing women about their carry?
who is Ariv man. it's really hard to hear him talk about his opinions, he comes across as so condescending, as if only his opinions are right, and everyone else's opinion is garbage. e.g about the quick access pocket, it's just your preference, not everyone wants it, it adds additional costs to the bag, to some it spoils the sleekness, etc etc. You say you're a seasoned bag user, why are you so angry about the liter thing, you should know that it's just a rough guess, there isn't any good way to gauge, and if you say your friends are going to be disappointed with paying for too big/small a bag, you should give better advice, considering you're "seasoned"
Aaron and Bo nailed it on how they come across, but Ariv, really hard to listen to him. gonna make people not wanna watch the video anymore. better not to include him in future videos
Judging by the comments ppl either love him or are not a big fan
The yoke pocket on the Evergoods CTB26 (it's my Goldilocks travel bag) is a quick access compartment for me. The front compartments on that bag are not quick access. They are easy access when you are on the plane or whatever form of transportation you are taking during travel. Quick security tips : I use a S-Biner Micro Lock to lock the zips for the main compartment and the yoke/laptop compartment. I choose this way of security compared to using a TSA lock because I like to be low profile and stealthy where it doesn't look like I have valuables inside my bag and also it's much easier to lock/unlock the zips. Let's be honest, if you forgotten your combination the last thing you wanna do is use a small plier to cut the TSA lock and look like a fool 👌🫡
can't wait to review a CTB26!
@@Nomads.Nation Please do dude. I'm listening to this podcast as we speak. I learnt so much from your podcast. I'm turning into a bag nerd now 🤓. Oh btw Aaron, Bellroy just launched their latest bag which is the Venture Travel Pack 26L. It is more travel oriented which separates it from their other Venture series bags. Go check it out and as always do a review on it 😎