My fleet an evergrowing, changing , shape shifting experirence! As More and more Game loops and mechanics open up as the game develops the more i find myself re organising my fleet. As it stands right now im pretty happy with it but as time presses on im sure changes will be made in the future! But what do you guys think? What does your fleet consist of? what would you change?as always let me know down below!!
In all honesty i think we have overspent on the ship fleet. Myself i own: Cutter Scout, C8R Medical pisces, Zeus Mk II ES, Corsair, Galaxy, Arrastra & BMM. I firmly believe, that in the future. When we get the whole package, the base building, the gameplay loops & everything else..... Most of the ships we own, wont see much use. Yet as a person who does NOT smoke, drink or spend on vacations or worker class girls, i find myself from time to time with a bit of disposable income. I got myself a few jpegs in SC .... I believe that if i eventually decide to sell my account i will find a person who will buy it - so kind of like a return on my investment is Possible? (if i decide to quit the game ever) Yet i find myself coming back to SC quite so often. I find new ways to enjoy the game & my time spent in the verse every time i Stop playing for a while (Due to bugs) and come back always. I truly hope that NPC crews will allow people who own such big ships, even if they Play Alone - to be able to run around in the big ships - the Capital sized ships or ones with many crew requirements - to be able to run around in them, even if it a reduced capacity. Id love to be able to Solo a ship like the BMM & just move goods around the verse....... Lets hope we did not overspend for no reason :D
Never justify what you do with hard earned cash to anyone. Its your fleet, your hobby, your choice. No one and I mean no one is in any position to make you feel guilty. You do you! You have a good fleet and if you enjoy then its money we'll spent.
I think there is a lot of faith in NPC here. The fleet is dominated by larger ships but really good choices in those larger ships. My fleet concentrates on scalability in areas I’m interested in. I don’t scale up more than a crew of 6. Something to say about the 600. It has the best landing legs of any explorer. The ground clearance and the self leveling 3 landing legs makes landing easy on uneven landscapes. Also it as lifts which are more forgiving on landing spots rather than ramps.
my little fleet intersects in several ships: F8C - 600i Ex - Corsair - MSR - Arrastra - Galaxy. I will not bother with big combat ships like polaris, perseus or nautilus, mostly because of cost to run and to aquire, will focus more on gaining money thru professions and buying combat ships ingame. As of now i have different a Cutter Scout instead of your Syulen as the small run around. Vulture - aquiring other materials not minable, dont really know if they will be really needed as recycled stuff. Will get a C8R just to have a medical capable little ship. Not decided on a Zeus, but if so it will be a CL or ES, dont like the MR. HULL C, not sure if it will say or move to a Liberator, i have the chain bought, will wait for the future to apply or cancel it, in the mid its a C2 and HULL D too ( D being almost out of crew requirements for me too).
I'm kind of with you on the Nautilus. As a Navy vet, my first ship was a Mine Countermeasures ship (Avenger class), so when this concept was released, I thought seriously about getting one, and I'm one of those people that has spent less on this game than many (the most expensive thing I've ever done before melting and spreading my money out was a Starfarer, because I understand the value of logistics...then they removed its ability to harvest fuel...) But that price! It's only $25 less than a Polaris, a FAR more versatile ship that way more people want. It's the same price as a Hammerhead (already in game and also more versatile in terms of what most people will be doing in-game as either a Capital fleet picket ship to defend against Fighters or a all around good multi-crew ship for space combat, fighting pirates and NPC bounties, etc). It's $25 more than the Odyssey, which is like a smaller Polaris with an exploration focus, $50 more than the Perseus (which can also be thought of as a smaller Polaris, anti-Capital support role in a fleet while still being generally competent against smaller threats and probably cheaper to run than a Polaris needing to replace spent size 10 Torps/munitions; the Polaris is also smaller and likely faster and more maneuverable), $75 more than the Orion and Merchantman (both very desirable ships for their respective non-combat roles and capabilities), $125 more than the Carrack (a ship that can do tons of things and is highly desirable as a multi-crew ship by players), and $150 more than the Liberator (a versatile platform a lot of players will probably gravitate to as a mobile base of operations for small orgs or player friends' groups to live on and move their ships all around at once). It's nearly double the price of the Galaxy, an extremely versatile ship that people are already salivating over which can swap out modules to go from medical to cargo running to refining and back again, and likewise the Starlifter, Endeavor, and Starfarer are all specialized ships that are less than half the price. While it will be insane if there's only ONE type of minelayer in the game and it's the Nautilus, the fact remains that price point is insane for a ship that will almost exclusively be relegated to minelaying and minesweeping operations. It has a relatively small (for that price) cargo size as far as nightlighting as a cargo runner in its off time, all its weapons are turrets so it pretty much cannot be soloed and will require 4 crew at a minimum. And its mission profile, while interesting and something nothing else in the game can do (...right now...) isn't also one-time for most players. For example, build a base and set mines around it and...don't use the ship again until you need to refresh some of the mines in 6 months. And to top it all off, it's technically not even a Capital ship, it's a "Large" instead! So the people that want the prestige of a Capital ship are going to just spring another $25 for a Polaris. I honestly think the Nautilus should be $400-$450 price range. MAYbe $500. But it has such a limited mission profile, so little ability to do anything else (cargo, exploration, soloing, general combat; yes it has a single Size 7 turret, but...the Perseus has 2 and Size 5 Torpedoes on top of having the same number of smaller turrets, and is likely much smaller and more maneuverable). I'm just not seeing that niche as worth over $700 and at a price point where it's competing with the Polaris (a ship in way higher demand), costs more than a number of good and popular looking ships (Perseus, Merchantman, Liberator, and Galaxy just to name a FEW), and isn't even a Capital ship to justify that price. In fact...I think it may be the most expensive non-Capital ship in the game right now? I really want to love this ship, but it's just far too limited in role, far too specialized OF a specialized role (Starfarers are specialized, but far more people and fleets need fuel than will need mining and minesweeping), far too reliant on having a ready crew to be functional, and far too expensive to justify all of those downsides. . Anyway, sorry, just a pet tirade of mine. XD But suffice to say, I agree with you. Anyway, nice fleet! My fleet is way smaller. C8R (that I think I will upgrade to a Cutty Red, but can't decide for sure), Fury (which you can load into a Red, making it really appealing to me), and Ranger (for ground combat, currently a Dragonfly until the Ranger comes out and I can swap to it and have a useable thing in game :D). I had a Starfarer, and have considered doing it again, but it needs a serious rework and I want the cargo bay to let the C8R fit in it. If they do that, I'll get my Starfarer again. I want to do medical stuff, but need something to do in downtime, and cargo running, even if small scale, is probably what I'd go for. The Red is more soloable than the Apollo from what I can tell, the C8R is a great ambulance but I want to be able to move all my ships together if I travel, so I either need the Red as my big ship or a ship the C8R will fit into. And I liked the Starfarer since you could solo it for mining and refining and delivering fuel (until they REMOVED THE HARVESTING PART DESPITE IT BEING IN THE SALES PITCH!!! Sorry, still miffed for that...), and would be useful in fleet ops while still being solo capable but also group capable. If I could fit my C8R in it, I'd be in love, since then I could do the things I want to do all together...
No one had interest in the Galaxy lol that's why they suddenly said it would be able to build bases...then said it won't be worked on right as they brought up the Starlancer BLD as a base builder to buy.
"We finished the Galaxy interior concept, which means we will actually have to build and deliver the ship now. Instead of doing that, here is another concept ship that fills virtually the exact same role."
Overkill? My only ship is a Polaris and all I do is mostly bunkers and risky salvage and freakin box missions 😄😄😄. But goddamit I wanted my only ship to be a Carrack with more teeth and I got it!
I've got the BMM for heavy cargo/daily driver, Polaris for org wars/bounty hunting homebase, the Arrastra, a C8R as my starter/rescue ship, and a fighter (haven't nailed down which one yet. Constantly melting and rebuying). I think with just those simple things you can earn down to anything else in the game. If your budget is lower or you can't be bothered CCU chaining. Get a resource gatherer, something that carries cargo, something that fights, and a starter for fast claims. You'll be set.
Closed my CCU chain for my BMM for just under 300 (285) and my Liberator during IAE! The Banu Defender was my gateway into becoming an Alien FanBoy as my fleet currently sports them as follows: Syulen, Defender, San Tok Yai, Glaive and BMM. I also got an Apollo Medivac this IAE! Another match to your fleet for me is the F8C, could NOT pass up that acquisition. Also snagged an Ares Ion due to its rebalancing along with a Zeus Mk II CL and Spirit C1. My 600i Explorer was acquired during last year's IAE as well as C8R and 315 P. That said, the only two ships of considerable size in my fleet are the Liberator & BMM (tho the Liberaator can be technically soloed).
This fleet is amazing but for me this is too perfect. Not to mention these ships aint cheap they are kind of endgame ships. I know my cutty black is no meta but that is the challenge, to succeed with a ship that is less than perfect. But each to their own, hats of these ships are beautiful.
i'm convinced the galaxy is going to become a pocket carrier for small groups of people when they can respawn there and stuff 2 to 5 mirai variants in the back (depending how brave they are).
Very similar to my end goal fleet only larger. Mine stops at the Perseus, and 600i then skips to MSR, and C1. Ares Inferno, and Vulture round out the bottom in terms of size. The Zeus CL might take the spot of the C1. If I don't have it I do have the end CCU for it thanks to IAE so things are in motion. Might pick up a C2, real curious about that new Mirai ship, the rumored F7 mk2 is also on my radar, but other than that I'm not really trying to have a massive fleet of ships.
I am praying they will make the galaxy be able to carry a prospector, i hope theyll size the rear hangar up more just like they did with the polaris if im not wrong
My fleet is is as follows: Titan Renegade, Glaive, Scorpius, Vanguard Harbinger, Redeemer and 600I Exp, and have a upgrade from 600I to Perseus laying around for the time comes when that gets released, its all combat related, as I do ship combat a lot :) [Edit] Forgot to put my Corsair in there for Expediting other people's cargo holds XD
Agree with the BMM, got if for 300 dollars, never going to get rid of the baby. I hope the give it a few more automated defense turrets, and get rid of that waste space for entering the top turret.
It's built that way as a statement They are 100% gonna leave the shrine. The turret room does not seem to impede the main purpose of the ship so its not "truly" wasted space, unlike how the 600i manages that. Not every square inch of a flamboyant spacecraft needs a purpose. If you want purpose built without much effort, Drake or Argo calling your name.
@@schlagzahne6741 Then why have remote turrets. Like why have one shrine. I don't mind it, but they can reduce the size; either that or make that turret worth it. Like size 6 guns or quads size 5.
@Hawkeye6941 it's not always about practicality. If we want to nitpick ships we could have a while list. Run with it. Your little shrine on top does not interfere with the overall function of the ship and doesn't significantly add to the ship profile, so not like it would affect how easy it is to shoot at
Excellent fleet PIN! For the most part, still spot on with the reasons or uses I would have for these ships. I also agree with most ppl posting here about keeping to crew sizes from 1-3. It is at this teir where I'll be spending most of my flight hours gathering resources for the next big step - for wherever it takes me. Hopefully towards: > Perseus / Galaxy / Arrastra / 600i / Catapillar Again, 100% agree with these ships for multirole / mid teir base - depending on the threat level of the area. You made a good point with the Catapillar serving as a Drake version of an Endeavor, it's back on my Christmas list. I feel the same way with the Arrastra - it has wayyy more potential than just a mining ship, like the Apollo - hey, I'm a spacer, I can turn any ship into home sweet home. With that, all i have for now is: > Zeus MKII / Apollo Medivac Intro teir multirole / daily driver / 2nd ship. AND YES! These ships made the list! I was obsessing over the C1, but the Zeus had more to offer, and I caught it at it's intro price - all 3 are good looking daily cruisers. Yes! Considering how the Zeus pans out the Apollo as a second can be used as a multirole, it has SCU space, a scanner on top, mostly large components, and I bet you can get a ROC in the back. While running boxes, rocks, cargo, or scrap, there will always be a rescue mission popping up while in transit ;) > Sabre / Vanguard / Ares Ion "The cleaner" role. Would love a Lighting, but didn't get a golden ticket :'( I'm still up in the air for a designated fighter, need to work on flight hours behind each. While the saber fits, I know the heavys won't fit in any ship's hangar currently, but I consider the latter two as my sweet indulgence. :D
I totally get your love for the BMM. I just bought into it today thanks to the Alien Week sale. The loaners are pretty nice for the time being as well.
I would never own a BMM, Nautilus or Odyssey atm. Who knows how many years it will be before you ever see those in-game and I just don't have enough faith in CIG to deliver anything as promised within a timely manner. The Polaris will be a phenomenal multi-crew/multi-purpose ship. And here's the thing: when you bust out a Polaris, you will have zero issues finding players who want to help you crew it. It will take time to sift through randoms, but eventually you'll end up with a trusted crew of 15 to help you man that ship on the regular. And it's in active production.
I just recently started playing SC and my fleet now consists of a C8X Pisces Expedition, Zeus MKII ES, Zeus MKII CL, Zeus MKII MR, Ares Ion (Which I'm planning to CCU later), 400i, Constellation Aquila, 600i and Carrack expedition. I am planning to CCU a few ships, but considering I've only started playing SC during last years IAE, I think my fleet is slowly forming up to what I want it to consist of. I initially started off with an avenger titan started pack and now have the Carrack Exploration Mega Pack 2950 with most of the ships and vehicles having been CCU'd for ships I actually want.
Damn, that's one hell of a fleet. I only have about 4 ships. Might stop at 5 ships. All solo manageable ish ships, crew 1 to 4. I don't have any friends lol. I just can't see getting anymore ships on the store. Definitely get more in game I think.
AIE makes me sick. I theory craft so far in the future i become a oracle of all.. What if it's a rainy tuesday in 2035 when i realise i should have went for the other one ship?! Carrack-Liberator-C2-Redeemer-Mercury-400i-Sabre. everything else is too small or too big for daily use. 3 man crew, doable by myself or NPC crew. It's all up for change before 1.0 SC, thanks for sharing, awesome fleet captain.
That is a very cool fleet. I chose the Perseus over the Polaris, because I don't think I will be able to crew it. I also love the lore behind the Perseus.
I'm in the same boat, got the jav, idris, kraken privateer, pioneer, Polaris,890 jump, Odyssey, merchant man, Orion, carrack, ironclad assault and several more smaller ships but I'm not in an org and don't really play with a group. There's no chance of me actually using these things as intended but they look like they'll be awesome when they're in game 😂.
I have the opposite effect with the Caterpillar and all Drake ships really. Also CIG removed all references to modualarity from the descriptions for the vehicle a while ago... its speculated that it won't end up beeing modular after all... we'll just have to see I guess.
Greetings, Hahaha you spent more than me. After being able to play in Pyro for a couple of days, My fleet changed a lot. I melted all my single player ships for the most part and am down To a Carrack, Arrastra and a MSR. Where I wanna be in the verse, multi crew ships I think are a must now. Like you My buddy and I are Playing together or Solo {No big Org thing for us}. He has our Combat ships and fits that same 2-6 person crew profile except for the Polaris and will have to wait and see How many bodies it will take.
A few additions I see! Fleet video part 3 at Invictus? Just kidding, I made some adjustments myself.😅. Great fleet, I love the project support, and most of all I love your enthusiasm!
Ive all the large ships in your fleet bar the Nautilus, although i do have it in buyback, and really dont want to exceed 6-8 crew. Dont value fighters as an investment, melted the F8, kept the S-Raven, yet do have a series of loaners and a Gladius/Arrow which i adore, and have had for years. PS: Share your concern with unknown entities on board my exotics. I think one idea is to initially crew a ship like the ''Polaris/Perseus/BMM/Orion'' is to join an ''Exotics Club'', or create one, the only stipulation is you have an exotic, place where you all learn the key crew positions within the ship....captian/commander/engineer/weapons etc, and gain important skills in managing your exotics ?.
My ship list at the moment is a Polaris for org/large friend group Galaxy for me and my consistent 2 friends Zeus Mk II for solo cargo running (C1 for now) Vulture because salvage is relaxing and fun Gladius for dog fighting/fighter for the Polaris I’m excited for when the wipe comes with pyro because the 3 ships I have right now are the C1 Vulture Gladius (Chaining up to the Polaris & galaxy) It gives me 3 different gameplay loops to make money on
My fleet is limited to ships that are intended for a maximum of 5 crew. I have little faith in blades and A.I., and certainly not enough to gamble hundreds, even thousands, of dollars on them.
I saw your video about the Galaxy and what you think about the Pioneer... well if you think you can man the BMM or the Polaris, the Pioneer shouldn't be a problem either... ;)
@Jean-GERNE nope, I don't think I can man the bmm at all. But I'm keeping it because I love it. The polaris has been,melted and swapped for the Ironclad assault 😆
@@PIN-o7 Noooo! Really?! I understand the appeal for the Assault, I'm building towards one, but out of curiosity, why ditch the Polaris? Keep up the vids!
@@PetrosSanctus because crewing the polaris to maximise its full potential is something i would struggle to do tbh. Plus i already have the BMM which is my shame ship ha ha
@@PIN-o7 Ah ok ok! Sound reasoning and as long as you're happy with you decision, it's all that matters! Hope to one day see you out there in the Verse!
nice vid but too many larger ships imo.... how much time are you going to split between all of these, obv feel free to dissagree, but i think the sweet spot is maybe 4 to 5 ships
My case is somewhat a rarer one as I own a single "mother ship" and a smaller carried inside (Like Harlock has the Arcadia, Malcom has the Serenity, etc...). Right now, I own only the Polaris with a Fury (to be upgraded to I don't know which shuttle yet). I want a ship as versatile as the Carrack, but more angry. Polaris offers so much bang for the buck. But like you, I've melted it and bought it more time than I can count. It will be crewed by obly NPC and blades. I'm a solo player... Using a Polaris as only ship. Woe to anyone telling me I shouldn't. I haven't listen to them for years before abd won't start now! It WAS the BMM for a while, but as soon as it went over 200m, it became too big for solo me. Nautilus tempts me so so much. It is IMO the best looking ship after the Pirate Caterpillar. But just as you pointed out, Polaris has so so much more versatility for $25 more that I can't justify getting the Naut instead. When you use a single ship, versatility is primordial.
Ironically the Polaris being a missile boat and having far more turrets means its far less practical to solo than a BMM. Honestly I don't see anything stopping us from soloing a BMM, not having turrets doesn't seem that big of a deal on a shopping mall/cargo hauler plus I don't think any pirate wants to mess with twin size 8's.
@@ricky6608 The ship still has quite a few automated point defense turrets which should defend against a couple slow moving torpedoes and harass a fighter like the Ares. I suppose anything "could" happen but in practice I can't imagine a capital ship notorious for its speed and durability would fall so easily.
@@kiwi4kian I said solo, it’s easy for a player pilot to avoid AI turret fire from hammerheads and I doubt the BMM is better covered than a hammerhead lol
The only thing I can say is "Buddy, you better find yourself an Org!". Lol. I have a BMM, Polaris and Carrack with the rest being mostly medium... and I'm worried sick as to how I'm going to crew my BMM and Polaris! I don't sweat it too much though... It's a good problem to have!
Dont worry, if your solo in PYRO in a Polaris......you'll get crew all right. My same concerns. PS: we need to form Ship Clubs for greenhorn Captains/Commanders, just to be safe?
@@PIN-o7 lol awesome bro I did the same thing with my fleet. But I did downsize everything to 1 to 3 crewmen. Well I still have my galaxy, Perseus and arrastra.
Your own personal choice and you've obviously lavished time and money getting your it to where it is currently, i, on the other hand, are concentrating on ships that are expected to release between: 2024/5...fingers crossed!. 'Zeus_ES-MR//Polaris//Spirit E1//Perseus//Galaxy//Railen/Arrastra//Odyssey. Good times
Allllready then, minute twelve into the video and the acronym for the Banu Merchantman gave me the cringe :p But onward ho, been waiting for this since watching the original and the other reviews on your channel - were about ship to ship on our fleets so I truly find this personal spin on SC informational. Carry on. (sits back in Captain's chair, waves on forward viewscreen)
I think because we won’t see base building till after 4.0 I think they need to stop making new ship and fix and update all the old ships that need love for the up and coming engineering game play then go back to new ships
Is this video so you can validate your purchases because that's what it seems like. Also maybe i need to do one of these with all the ships I've bought. This game gets you that's for sure.
its funny how people are buying ships they won't be able to fly... during alpha most ships can be flown by 1 person but over and over they have said they do not want solo people flying large and capital ships. When it says crew of 4 or crew of 6 it means that is not optional once game is 1.0... so many ships will be sold on secondary markets for cheap when that happens lol
No. They have said multiple times every ship will be able to be flown by a solo player. However it will not be optimal to do so. If that was the case, then why are NPC crews being built? And why are blades being implemented? Because by your argument, that would be pointless to implement either NPC or blades as actual human players would fulfill those roles. Did the the idris not get flown recently by a solo pilot?? 🤔
@@PIN-o7 was the idris flown by 1 person in release - no. Do we have NPC crews - no. Do we have blades - no. Do we have 30+ backlog ships already in game - no. Do people take what CIg puts out to sell ships as though it is guaranteed - yes. Are you smoking hopeum - yes.
@@AtlasRandGaming OK. sure. Then do you not think that CIG would be Legally obliged to declare that? You know as these ships are worth thousands of dollars. Like they have to declare the concept ships arent in game. Something along the lines of " this capital ship will require a player crew of XX to be played in game" Even if you are right, but your not, Players will melt there ships accordingly. Also if it wasnt for the Hopeum smoking players, where exactly would CIG find funding? As you know selling ships is there main fund raising method. Thoses players who support the game high on hopeum allow everyone to continue playing and enjoy the game and keep the dev wheels turning.
My fleet an evergrowing, changing , shape shifting experirence!
As More and more Game loops and mechanics open up as the game develops the more i find myself re organising my fleet. As it stands right now im pretty happy with it but as time presses on im sure changes will be made in the future! But what do you guys think? What does your fleet consist of? what would you change?as always let me know down below!!
In all honesty i think we have overspent on the ship fleet. Myself i own: Cutter Scout, C8R Medical pisces, Zeus Mk II ES, Corsair, Galaxy, Arrastra & BMM.
I firmly believe, that in the future. When we get the whole package, the base building, the gameplay loops & everything else..... Most of the ships we own, wont see much use.
Yet as a person who does NOT smoke, drink or spend on vacations or worker class girls, i find myself from time to time with a bit of disposable income. I got myself a few jpegs in SC .... I believe that if i eventually decide to sell my account i will find a person who will buy it - so kind of like a return on my investment is Possible? (if i decide to quit the game ever)
Yet i find myself coming back to SC quite so often. I find new ways to enjoy the game & my time spent in the verse every time i Stop playing for a while (Due to bugs) and come back always.
I truly hope that NPC crews will allow people who own such big ships, even if they Play Alone - to be able to run around in the big ships - the Capital sized ships or ones with many crew requirements - to be able to run around in them, even if it a reduced capacity. Id love to be able to Solo a ship like the BMM & just move goods around the verse.......
Lets hope we did not overspend for no reason :D
Never justify what you do with hard earned cash to anyone. Its your fleet, your hobby, your choice. No one and I mean no one is in any position to make you feel guilty. You do you! You have a good fleet and if you enjoy then its money we'll spent.
@@PIN-o7 Thats my current mindset. My above comment is simply a concern.
Good advice! :)
You're missing a Anvil Liberator
Packages:-Aurora MR, Mustangs Delta & Omega and Superhornet. Stand alone ships:- Drake Corsair, Herald, Buccaneer and 2x Drangonflies(one is a yellowjacket). Esperia Glaive & Blade. Khartu-Al.and Mirai Pulse
I think there is a lot of faith in NPC here. The fleet is dominated by larger ships but really good choices in those larger ships. My fleet concentrates on scalability in areas I’m interested in. I don’t scale up more than a crew of 6.
Something to say about the 600. It has the best landing legs of any explorer. The ground clearance and the self leveling 3 landing legs makes landing easy on uneven landscapes. Also it as lifts which are more forgiving on landing spots rather than ramps.
my little fleet intersects in several ships:
F8C - 600i Ex - Corsair - MSR - Arrastra - Galaxy.
I will not bother with big combat ships like polaris, perseus or nautilus, mostly because of cost to run and to aquire, will focus more on gaining money thru professions and buying combat ships ingame.
As of now i have different a Cutter Scout instead of your Syulen as the small run around.
Vulture - aquiring other materials not minable, dont really know if they will be really needed as recycled stuff.
Will get a C8R just to have a medical capable little ship.
Not decided on a Zeus, but if so it will be a CL or ES, dont like the MR.
HULL C, not sure if it will say or move to a Liberator, i have the chain bought, will wait for the future to apply or cancel it, in the mid its a C2 and HULL D too ( D being almost out of crew requirements for me too).
I'm kind of with you on the Nautilus. As a Navy vet, my first ship was a Mine Countermeasures ship (Avenger class), so when this concept was released, I thought seriously about getting one, and I'm one of those people that has spent less on this game than many (the most expensive thing I've ever done before melting and spreading my money out was a Starfarer, because I understand the value of logistics...then they removed its ability to harvest fuel...) But that price!
It's only $25 less than a Polaris, a FAR more versatile ship that way more people want. It's the same price as a Hammerhead (already in game and also more versatile in terms of what most people will be doing in-game as either a Capital fleet picket ship to defend against Fighters or a all around good multi-crew ship for space combat, fighting pirates and NPC bounties, etc). It's $25 more than the Odyssey, which is like a smaller Polaris with an exploration focus, $50 more than the Perseus (which can also be thought of as a smaller Polaris, anti-Capital support role in a fleet while still being generally competent against smaller threats and probably cheaper to run than a Polaris needing to replace spent size 10 Torps/munitions; the Polaris is also smaller and likely faster and more maneuverable), $75 more than the Orion and Merchantman (both very desirable ships for their respective non-combat roles and capabilities), $125 more than the Carrack (a ship that can do tons of things and is highly desirable as a multi-crew ship by players), and $150 more than the Liberator (a versatile platform a lot of players will probably gravitate to as a mobile base of operations for small orgs or player friends' groups to live on and move their ships all around at once). It's nearly double the price of the Galaxy, an extremely versatile ship that people are already salivating over which can swap out modules to go from medical to cargo running to refining and back again, and likewise the Starlifter, Endeavor, and Starfarer are all specialized ships that are less than half the price.
While it will be insane if there's only ONE type of minelayer in the game and it's the Nautilus, the fact remains that price point is insane for a ship that will almost exclusively be relegated to minelaying and minesweeping operations. It has a relatively small (for that price) cargo size as far as nightlighting as a cargo runner in its off time, all its weapons are turrets so it pretty much cannot be soloed and will require 4 crew at a minimum. And its mission profile, while interesting and something nothing else in the game can do (...right now...) isn't also one-time for most players. For example, build a base and set mines around it and...don't use the ship again until you need to refresh some of the mines in 6 months. And to top it all off, it's technically not even a Capital ship, it's a "Large" instead! So the people that want the prestige of a Capital ship are going to just spring another $25 for a Polaris.
I honestly think the Nautilus should be $400-$450 price range. MAYbe $500. But it has such a limited mission profile, so little ability to do anything else (cargo, exploration, soloing, general combat; yes it has a single Size 7 turret, but...the Perseus has 2 and Size 5 Torpedoes on top of having the same number of smaller turrets, and is likely much smaller and more maneuverable). I'm just not seeing that niche as worth over $700 and at a price point where it's competing with the Polaris (a ship in way higher demand), costs more than a number of good and popular looking ships (Perseus, Merchantman, Liberator, and Galaxy just to name a FEW), and isn't even a Capital ship to justify that price.
In fact...I think it may be the most expensive non-Capital ship in the game right now?
I really want to love this ship, but it's just far too limited in role, far too specialized OF a specialized role (Starfarers are specialized, but far more people and fleets need fuel than will need mining and minesweeping), far too reliant on having a ready crew to be functional, and far too expensive to justify all of those downsides.
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Anyway, sorry, just a pet tirade of mine. XD But suffice to say, I agree with you.
Anyway, nice fleet! My fleet is way smaller. C8R (that I think I will upgrade to a Cutty Red, but can't decide for sure), Fury (which you can load into a Red, making it really appealing to me), and Ranger (for ground combat, currently a Dragonfly until the Ranger comes out and I can swap to it and have a useable thing in game :D). I had a Starfarer, and have considered doing it again, but it needs a serious rework and I want the cargo bay to let the C8R fit in it. If they do that, I'll get my Starfarer again. I want to do medical stuff, but need something to do in downtime, and cargo running, even if small scale, is probably what I'd go for. The Red is more soloable than the Apollo from what I can tell, the C8R is a great ambulance but I want to be able to move all my ships together if I travel, so I either need the Red as my big ship or a ship the C8R will fit into. And I liked the Starfarer since you could solo it for mining and refining and delivering fuel (until they REMOVED THE HARVESTING PART DESPITE IT BEING IN THE SALES PITCH!!! Sorry, still miffed for that...), and would be useful in fleet ops while still being solo capable but also group capable.
If I could fit my C8R in it, I'd be in love, since then I could do the things I want to do all together...
No one had interest in the Galaxy lol that's why they suddenly said it would be able to build bases...then said it won't be worked on right as they brought up the Starlancer BLD as a base builder to buy.
"We finished the Galaxy interior concept, which means we will actually have to build and deliver the ship now. Instead of doing that, here is another concept ship that fills virtually the exact same role."
Nobody thinks this is overkill ?😅
Nope, now I don't feel guilty about my fleet 😂
Nah you ain’t seen overkill till you’ve seen a wing commander or above lmao
Overkill? My only ship is a Polaris and all I do is mostly bunkers and risky salvage and freakin box missions 😄😄😄.
But goddamit I wanted my only ship to be a Carrack with more teeth and I got it!
I have galaxy miner 600i redeemer etc
Absolutly not, you should see my fleet lol
I've got the BMM for heavy cargo/daily driver, Polaris for org wars/bounty hunting homebase, the Arrastra, a C8R as my starter/rescue ship, and a fighter (haven't nailed down which one yet. Constantly melting and rebuying). I think with just those simple things you can earn down to anything else in the game. If your budget is lower or you can't be bothered CCU chaining. Get a resource gatherer, something that carries cargo, something that fights, and a starter for fast claims. You'll be set.
Closed my CCU chain for my BMM for just under 300 (285) and my Liberator during IAE! The Banu Defender was my gateway into becoming an Alien FanBoy as my fleet currently sports them as follows: Syulen, Defender, San Tok Yai, Glaive and BMM. I also got an Apollo Medivac this IAE! Another match to your fleet for me is the F8C, could NOT pass up that acquisition. Also snagged an Ares Ion due to its rebalancing along with a Zeus Mk II CL and Spirit C1. My 600i Explorer was acquired during last year's IAE as well as C8R and 315 P. That said, the only two ships of considerable size in my fleet are the Liberator & BMM (tho the Liberaator can be technically soloed).
nice fleet ! yes i will indeed be keeping a close eye on the liberator thats for sure.
I plan on getting the Liberator soon. Logically I don't need it.... BUT I WANT IT.
You're missing a Anvil Liberator
This fleet is amazing but for me this is too perfect. Not to mention these ships aint cheap they are kind of endgame ships. I know my cutty black is no meta but that is the challenge, to succeed with a ship that is less than perfect. But each to their own, hats of these ships are beautiful.
i'm convinced the galaxy is going to become a pocket carrier for small groups of people when they can respawn there and stuff 2 to 5 mirai variants in the back (depending how brave they are).
it could very well do, im sure someone somewhere will have that very intention.
Possibly but I have mine mainly for the eventual base building.
Very similar to my end goal fleet only larger. Mine stops at the Perseus, and 600i then skips to MSR, and C1. Ares Inferno, and Vulture round out the bottom in terms of size. The Zeus CL might take the spot of the C1. If I don't have it I do have the end CCU for it thanks to IAE so things are in motion. Might pick up a C2, real curious about that new Mirai ship, the rumored F7 mk2 is also on my radar, but other than that I'm not really trying to have a massive fleet of ships.
If they let you lease out your ships, that would be a game changer and basically expand the show tank into an lake.
I am praying they will make the galaxy be able to carry a prospector, i hope theyll size the rear hangar up more just like they did with the polaris if im not wrong
My fleet is is as follows: Titan Renegade, Glaive, Scorpius, Vanguard Harbinger, Redeemer and 600I Exp, and have a upgrade from 600I to Perseus laying around for the time comes when that gets released, its all combat related, as I do ship combat a lot :)
[Edit] Forgot to put my Corsair in there for Expediting other people's cargo holds XD
Agree with the BMM, got if for 300 dollars, never going to get rid of the baby. I hope the give it a few more automated defense turrets, and get rid of that waste space for entering the top turret.
Agreed, I'm certain that top turret should get fleshed out more. Well I hope so at least.
It's built that way as a statement
They are 100% gonna leave the shrine. The turret room does not seem to impede the main purpose of the ship so its not "truly" wasted space, unlike how the 600i manages that.
Not every square inch of a flamboyant spacecraft needs a purpose. If you want purpose built without much effort, Drake or Argo calling your name.
@@schlagzahne6741 Then why have remote turrets. Like why have one shrine. I don't mind it, but they can reduce the size; either that or make that turret worth it. Like size 6 guns or quads size 5.
@@PIN-o7 The Top Turret on the BMM deserves to be bumped up to Size 7
@Hawkeye6941 it's not always about practicality.
If we want to nitpick ships we could have a while list. Run with it. Your little shrine on top does not interfere with the overall function of the ship and doesn't significantly add to the ship profile, so not like it would affect how easy it is to shoot at
Looking forwads to being a random red shirt onboard one of your ships in the future !
I feel like the bmm is definitely worth getting. Itll probably be one of the hardest ships to get your hands on.
Not when you are piriting of a rich kid.
@@TrueManuThere are going to be sooo many of these flying around with literally one person inside, it'll be like a Doordash delivery
Excellent fleet PIN!
For the most part, still spot on with the reasons or uses I would have for these ships.
I also agree with most ppl posting here about keeping to crew sizes from 1-3.
It is at this teir where I'll be spending most of my flight hours gathering resources for the next big step - for wherever it takes me.
Hopefully towards:
> Perseus / Galaxy / Arrastra / 600i / Catapillar
Again, 100% agree with these ships for multirole / mid teir base - depending on the threat level of the area.
You made a good point with the Catapillar serving as a Drake version of an Endeavor, it's back on my Christmas list.
I feel the same way with the Arrastra - it has wayyy more potential than just a mining ship, like the Apollo - hey, I'm a spacer, I can turn any ship into home sweet home.
With that, all i have for now is:
> Zeus MKII / Apollo Medivac
Intro teir multirole / daily driver / 2nd ship.
AND YES! These ships made the list!
I was obsessing over the C1, but the Zeus had more to offer, and I caught it at it's intro price - all 3 are good looking daily cruisers.
Yes! Considering how the Zeus pans out the Apollo as a second can be used as a multirole, it has SCU space, a scanner on top, mostly large components, and I bet you can get a ROC in the back.
While running boxes, rocks, cargo, or scrap, there will always be a rescue mission popping up while in transit ;)
> Sabre / Vanguard / Ares Ion
"The cleaner" role.
Would love a Lighting, but didn't get a golden ticket :'(
I'm still up in the air for a designated fighter, need to work on flight hours behind each.
While the saber fits, I know the heavys won't fit in any ship's hangar currently, but I consider the latter two as my sweet indulgence.
:D
thats the first i've heard someone refer to the syulen as "tons of firepower" heh heh O.o
I like your reasoning and choices for fleet. Pretty much have the same choices myself 😄 Subbed
Thankyou!
Heh, thanks for the Perseus shoutout! It's famous on the Discord indeed!
I totally get your love for the BMM. I just bought into it today thanks to the Alien Week sale. The loaners are pretty nice for the time being as well.
Congratulations o7
I would never own a BMM, Nautilus or Odyssey atm. Who knows how many years it will be before you ever see those in-game and I just don't have enough faith in CIG to deliver anything as promised within a timely manner.
The Polaris will be a phenomenal multi-crew/multi-purpose ship. And here's the thing: when you bust out a Polaris, you will have zero issues finding players who want to help you crew it. It will take time to sift through randoms, but eventually you'll end up with a trusted crew of 15 to help you man that ship on the regular. And it's in active production.
I just recently started playing SC and my fleet now consists of a C8X Pisces Expedition, Zeus MKII ES, Zeus MKII CL, Zeus MKII MR, Ares Ion (Which I'm planning to CCU later), 400i, Constellation Aquila, 600i and Carrack expedition. I am planning to CCU a few ships, but considering I've only started playing SC during last years IAE, I think my fleet is slowly forming up to what I want it to consist of. I initially started off with an avenger titan started pack and now have the Carrack Exploration Mega Pack 2950 with most of the ships and vehicles having been CCU'd for ships I actually want.
Awesome fleet
Damn, that's one hell of a fleet. I only have about 4 ships. Might stop at 5 ships. All solo manageable ish ships, crew 1 to 4. I don't have any friends lol. I just can't see getting anymore ships on the store. Definitely get more in game I think.
I can’t wait till we get the small supporting vehicles like forklifts, cargo trucks, pushable grav platforms for moving cargo etc
mums with pushchairs
AIE makes me sick.
I theory craft so far in the future i become a oracle of all.. What if it's a rainy tuesday in 2035 when i realise i should have went for the other one ship?!
Carrack-Liberator-C2-Redeemer-Mercury-400i-Sabre. everything else is too small or too big for daily use.
3 man crew, doable by myself or NPC crew.
It's all up for change before 1.0 SC, thanks for sharing, awesome fleet captain.
That is a very cool fleet. I chose the Perseus over the Polaris, because I don't think I will be able to crew it. I also love the lore behind the Perseus.
I'm in the same boat, got the jav, idris, kraken privateer, pioneer, Polaris,890 jump, Odyssey, merchant man, Orion, carrack, ironclad assault and several more smaller ships but I'm not in an org and don't really play with a group. There's no chance of me actually using these things as intended but they look like they'll be awesome when they're in game 😂.
I have the opposite effect with the Caterpillar and all Drake ships really. Also CIG removed all references to modualarity from the descriptions for the vehicle a while ago... its speculated that it won't end up beeing modular after all... we'll just have to see I guess.
Greetings, Hahaha you spent more than me. After being able to play in Pyro for a couple of days, My fleet changed a lot. I melted all my single player ships for the most part and am down To a Carrack, Arrastra and a MSR. Where I wanna be in the verse, multi crew ships I think are a must now. Like you My buddy and I are Playing together or Solo {No big Org thing for us}. He has our Combat ships and fits that same 2-6 person crew profile except for the Polaris and will have to wait and see How many bodies it will take.
hey buddy, yes trying to prepare for this game is a mini game in itself..but you know what i love it anyway!
So much of my fleet in this! Polaris and Perseus i need to figure out if they are the ones i keep
when ever i melt anything abovea pesky F8, i buy a CCU.....just to be sure.
@@davewills6121 ye I just got one of the packs and upgraded ships in there. Wasn't much looking forward apart from that could be good for an org etc 🤣
A few additions I see! Fleet video part 3 at Invictus? Just kidding, I made some adjustments myself.😅. Great fleet, I love the project support, and most of all I love your enthusiasm!
I think we both know deep down there will be a my fleet 3 lol
@@PIN-o7 lol, yeah. I thought I was done and ended up with a Syulen and a CCU to the Arrastra. 🤣
Drake complete package is my dream fleet:).
But yours is lovely too.
Ive all the large ships in your fleet bar the Nautilus, although i do have it in buyback, and really dont want to exceed 6-8 crew. Dont value fighters as an investment, melted the F8, kept the S-Raven, yet do have a series of loaners and a Gladius/Arrow which i adore, and have had for years.
PS: Share your concern with unknown entities on board my exotics. I think one idea is to initially crew a ship like the ''Polaris/Perseus/BMM/Orion'' is to join an ''Exotics Club'', or create one, the only stipulation is you have an exotic, place where you all learn the key crew positions within the ship....captian/commander/engineer/weapons etc, and gain important skills in managing your exotics ?.
What website is he using to look at the different ships and look at each level
My ship list at the moment is a
Polaris for org/large friend group
Galaxy for me and my consistent 2 friends
Zeus Mk II for solo cargo running (C1 for now)
Vulture because salvage is relaxing and fun
Gladius for dog fighting/fighter for the Polaris
I’m excited for when the wipe comes with pyro because the 3 ships I have right now are the
C1
Vulture
Gladius
(Chaining up to the Polaris & galaxy)
It gives me 3 different gameplay loops to make money on
Nice!
I Find Your Lack of Endeavor Disturbing :D
my bad
@@PIN-o7 😂
Where did you manage to buy and melt and buy a Polaris? I've never seen one for sale since 2016.
Invictus, iae website special ship sales .
@@PIN-o7 I'll be sure to look, thanks.
@vik12d89 no problem, it should be on sale at invictus, that will launch in the next few weeks so keep an eye out o7
My fleet is limited to ships that are intended for a maximum of 5 crew. I have little faith in blades and A.I., and certainly not enough to gamble hundreds, even thousands, of dollars on them.
My fleet : Drake Cutlass Black.
still awesome
@@PIN-o7 I wanna get the caterpillar at some point.
@@MrAbram94 don't blame you, it's awesome
The Mercury Star Runner is screwed up. It is bigger than the Connie, and the Corsair but has the shields of a med fighter. It pops way to fast.
I saw your video about the Galaxy and what you think about the Pioneer... well if you think you can man the BMM or the Polaris, the Pioneer shouldn't be a problem either... ;)
@Jean-GERNE nope, I don't think I can man the bmm at all. But I'm keeping it because I love it. The polaris has been,melted and swapped for the Ironclad assault 😆
@@PIN-o7 Noooo! Really?! I understand the appeal for the Assault, I'm building towards one, but out of curiosity, why ditch the Polaris?
Keep up the vids!
@@PetrosSanctus because crewing the polaris to maximise its full potential is something i would struggle to do tbh. Plus i already have the BMM which is my shame ship ha ha
@@PIN-o7 Ah ok ok! Sound reasoning and as long as you're happy with you decision, it's all that matters! Hope to one day see you out there in the Verse!
@@PetrosSanctus o7
nice vid but too many larger ships imo.... how much time are you going to split between all of these, obv feel free to dissagree, but i think the sweet spot is maybe 4 to 5 ships
My case is somewhat a rarer one as I own a single "mother ship" and a smaller carried inside (Like Harlock has the Arcadia, Malcom has the Serenity, etc...).
Right now, I own only the Polaris with a Fury (to be upgraded to I don't know which shuttle yet). I want a ship as versatile as the Carrack, but more angry. Polaris offers so much bang for the buck. But like you, I've melted it and bought it more time than I can count. It will be crewed by obly NPC and blades. I'm a solo player... Using a Polaris as only ship. Woe to anyone telling me I shouldn't. I haven't listen to them for years before abd won't start now!
It WAS the BMM for a while, but as soon as it went over 200m, it became too big for solo me.
Nautilus tempts me so so much. It is IMO the best looking ship after the Pirate Caterpillar. But just as you pointed out, Polaris has so so much more versatility for $25 more that I can't justify getting the Naut instead. When you use a single ship, versatility is primordial.
Thanks for holding the line, brrrrotherrrr!
Ironically the Polaris being a missile boat and having far more turrets means its far less practical to solo than a BMM. Honestly I don't see anything stopping us from soloing a BMM, not having turrets doesn't seem that big of a deal on a shopping mall/cargo hauler plus I don't think any pirate wants to mess with twin size 8's.
Without turrets you’ll probably be able to solo the BMM in an Ares or one of the torpedo bombers
@@ricky6608 The ship still has quite a few automated point defense turrets which should defend against a couple slow moving torpedoes and harass a fighter like the Ares. I suppose anything "could" happen but in practice I can't imagine a capital ship notorious for its speed and durability would fall so easily.
@@kiwi4kian I said solo, it’s easy for a player pilot to avoid AI turret fire from hammerheads and I doubt the BMM is better covered than a hammerhead lol
The only thing I can say is "Buddy, you better find yourself an Org!". Lol. I have a BMM, Polaris and Carrack with the rest being mostly medium... and I'm worried sick as to how I'm going to crew my BMM and Polaris! I don't sweat it too much though... It's a good problem to have!
I will be starting a org, not sure when but hopefully soon.
Dont worry, if your solo in PYRO in a Polaris......you'll get crew all right. My same concerns. PS: we need to form Ship Clubs for greenhorn Captains/Commanders, just to be safe?
Question did you use pack and upgrade it or did you use LTI tokens ?
There is alot of lti, and upgrades in there buddy
@@PIN-o7 lol awesome bro I did the same thing with my fleet. But I did downsize everything to 1 to 3 crewmen. Well I still have my galaxy, Perseus and arrastra.
@@amd1031 those three ships are just to kewl not to have dude!
@@PIN-o7 lol agreed 👍🏾
they said at Citcon it will be polaris .... galaxy and after they will do the perseus
Your own personal choice and you've obviously lavished time and money getting your it to where it is currently, i, on the other hand, are concentrating on ships that are expected to release between: 2024/5...fingers crossed!.
'Zeus_ES-MR//Polaris//Spirit E1//Perseus//Galaxy//Railen/Arrastra//Odyssey. Good times
Definitely good times, nice fleet!
Talking about alien ships what about the Railen? Bigger version of the Sulyen
Allllready then, minute twelve into the video and the acronym for the Banu Merchantman gave me the cringe
:p
But onward ho, been waiting for this since watching the original and the other reviews on your channel - were about ship to ship on our fleets so I truly find this personal spin on SC informational.
Carry on.
(sits back in Captain's chair, waves on forward viewscreen)
Aye aye o7
perfect fleet. wish i could have done it like that.
Awesome content!
thank you
?? how u can have those ships? You can't buy these ships once or buy them ingame?
They go on sale during events such as IAE and Invictus on the rsi website.
Perseus is my dream ship ❤
@@synthetictv5340 I don't blame you.
Nice .
Thanks 😊!
I so agree with the catepilar
Caterpillar army UNITE!
Ye the bmm will allways be in my fleet dont need snything else
Can I ask what your chairman rank is?
My fleet is 3 ships xD...
C1
Prospector
Polaris
Thats still a sweet fleet!
@Spaceman-PIN small but gives me something to do in every situation/activitie I enjoy with or without friends
@alexandravixen504 it doesn't matter how large, or small, a fleet is. As long as your happy.
No fleet with a Polaris in it can be called "small", this is as much of a fleet as the one in the video
PERSEUS IRONCLAD STARLANCER TAC ECLIPSE ARES INFERNO CUTTER URSA MEDIVAC BEST FLEET EVER
You're missing a Anvil Liberator
That moment when we have nearly the same fleet lol..
I think because we won’t see base building till after 4.0 I think they need to stop making new ship and fix and update all the old ships that need love for the up and coming engineering game play then go back to new ships
i mean, i sell cargo on ur merchantman, i be flying my perseus
I’d use the merchant man as a pirate ship to sell illegal and stolen goods
Is this video so you can validate your purchases because that's what it seems like. Also maybe i need to do one of these with all the ships I've bought. This game gets you that's for sure.
We are quite similar
I love the idea of like 5 BMMs in a convoy for protection
How much money do you ppl have 😵💫
Well none now.
:D :D :D :D :D
its funny how people are buying ships they won't be able to fly... during alpha most ships can be flown by 1 person but over and over they have said they do not want solo people flying large and capital ships. When it says crew of 4 or crew of 6 it means that is not optional once game is 1.0... so many ships will be sold on secondary markets for cheap when that happens lol
No. They have said multiple times every ship will be able to be flown by a solo player. However it will not be optimal to do so. If that was the case, then why are NPC crews being built? And why are blades being implemented? Because by your argument, that would be pointless to implement either NPC or blades as actual human players would fulfill those roles. Did the the idris not get flown recently by a solo pilot?? 🤔
@@PIN-o7 was the idris flown by 1 person in release - no. Do we have NPC crews - no. Do we have blades - no. Do we have 30+ backlog ships already in game - no. Do people take what CIg puts out to sell ships as though it is guaranteed - yes. Are you smoking hopeum - yes.
@@AtlasRandGaming OK. sure. Then do you not think that CIG would be Legally obliged to declare that? You know as these ships are worth thousands of dollars. Like they have to declare the concept ships arent in game. Something along the lines of " this capital ship will require a player crew of XX to be played in game" Even if you are right, but your not, Players will melt there ships accordingly. Also if it wasnt for the Hopeum smoking players, where exactly would CIG find funding? As you know selling ships is there main fund raising method. Thoses players who support the game high on hopeum allow everyone to continue playing and enjoy the game and keep the dev wheels turning.
Fleet roleplayers are schizos
Ooooo burn. Who let you out the basement? Did you chew your ankle chain off to escape?
I mean yeah, but we're not hurting anyone