1968 Gibson es 175 versus Epiphone es 175 Premium

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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    Ab' d a 1968 Gibson es 175 against a 2015 Epiphone es 175 premium. Both guitars have 57 classic pickups. Gloss finish versus satin finish. The Epi 175 is brighter:

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  • @SwowChowsk
    @SwowChowsk 8 лет назад +88

    This dude could make a 2x4 with rubber bands sound good

    • @hughmongasass3773
      @hughmongasass3773 5 лет назад

      you need better play-through style so you don't get all those buzzy muted tones

    • @ramencurry6672
      @ramencurry6672 3 года назад

      He’s one of the best jazz guitarists on RUclips

  • @bark723
    @bark723 8 лет назад +3

    Everybody is talkibg about the guitar but i see no comments about your talent for guitar! Wow!

    • @Minor7thb5
      @Minor7thb5  8 лет назад

      Mark Thompson Thank you! That comment made my day.

  • @richfiryn
    @richfiryn 8 лет назад +23

    Sounds great, i'm buying one of the Epiphone ES 175 Premiums today on clearance for $409, and i'm trading in my MIM Strat to knock the price down even further. Merry Christmas to me !

    • @lydmo8073
      @lydmo8073 8 лет назад +5

      I got mine for that price at GC. I was pretty amazed. They still retail for 839-899 at various places. GC said they were clearing them out. I bought it on the spot. Re the pickups, they're pretty awesome. The action needed a bit of set up and I was good to go. I played a Gibson ES-175 and it does feel a bit different. but let's be honest, when you're playing on stage through an amp, and there are other instruments, the sound is great. No one's going to complain. And yes, there is def a psychological factor involved when you see a jazz player with a Gibson as opposed to an Epi. That's too bad, really. Anyway, I'm very happy with mine.

  • @lotharroberts5978
    @lotharroberts5978 9 лет назад +13

    That Epi and the playing are flawless.

  • @jgraham140
    @jgraham140 5 лет назад +13

    I bought an Epiphone ES-175 Premium after watching this video two years ago. It was a great investment and it plays beautifully. I have D'Addario Chromes (flatwound strings) on it, 11-50.

    • @sarahiri5724
      @sarahiri5724 4 года назад

      I use chromes too, it’s amazing string, but the strings are too hard to play. I now prefer soft string, like nyxl

    • @jgraham140
      @jgraham140 4 года назад

      @@sarahiri5724 What gauges are you using? I use 11s on my ES-175. They are a bit stiff. I have NYXLs in 10s but haven't put them on any of my guitars yet.

    • @JPhi
      @JPhi 4 года назад

      @@jgraham140 I have the same equipment and I am the happiest.

    • @MrSwitchblade327
      @MrSwitchblade327 2 года назад

      Like the Beatles, aye John?

    • @jgraham140
      @jgraham140 2 года назад

      @@MrSwitchblade327 Yes, apparently The Beatles used flatwounds. The Epiphone Casino is a fully hollowbody guitar similar to the Gibson ES-330, a guitar that Grant Green played during his Blue Note days.

  • @hillmillenia
    @hillmillenia 8 лет назад

    I see the happiness shining through...that love of music does it every time...

  • @danielhillshafer7448
    @danielhillshafer7448 7 лет назад +2

    Man, your playing is off the charts.

  • @lawrsvanvalkenburg
    @lawrsvanvalkenburg 3 года назад

    That was a treat to watch. Thanks!

  • @CaevanOShite
    @CaevanOShite 9 лет назад +8

    Beautiful playing, my friend.

  • @bradgriffith4231
    @bradgriffith4231 7 лет назад +3

    I have 4 Epis, a '97 "Special" that's had pickups changed to POFs & custom wired with a 250k volume pot & high bleed cap, a '13 Les Paul Custom Pro, a '06 Sheraton 2, & a '14 ES175 Premium. Have owned several Gibsons, including a very old round hole arch top(only 1 I've ever seen), a pre-'60 J160E, & a '72 Les Paul Standard. They all need to be professionally setup, & I prefer the Epis. I hunted & bought all used except the ES & have less $$$ in the 4(including setup), than 1 Gibson & they all play & sound GR8. Also have a '10 Mex Tele, an '83 American Strat, A low priced Takamine jumbo acoustic & my pride & joy, a 1 of 78, '80 Guild D40C, with a florentine cutaway. My Luthier, who graduated from the Berkeley School of Jazz in N.Y.C., installed bone nuts, trued the necks & "calibrated" the nut & bridge to the neck so that the neck relief is .008" & string height perfect on all of them except the old Guild & the ES, which is brand new & needs to acclimatize to my desert environment before we work on it, but the ES came from the factory almost perfect. Only had to slightly adjust the intonation on the 1st & 2nd strings. LOVE MY EPIPHONES!!!!

  • @MrReedmonkey
    @MrReedmonkey 2 месяца назад

    I know this is an old video but Damn! That is some tasty playing. I just bought a used Epi 175 premium, my first Epiphone. Compared to my Gibsons it does look a bit cheap, but as the man says, its all about how it sounds. And in reality, it feels pretty nice, even though i haven't got it set up yet. Time will tell if I should have bought a Gibson or Heritage 575 instead but as a first foray into jazz boxes, I think it will keep me happy for a while. No regrets here.

  • @ARCARGELIK
    @ARCARGELIK 7 лет назад +4

    I think this is one of the biggest difference in sound between the 2, the tone-o-matic bridge vs the rosewood bridge. The rosewood bridge make it sound brighter, I like both styles of sound, they are just different, every little thing can affect the sound.

  • @RickMcCargar
    @RickMcCargar 5 лет назад +6

    Main difference that I hear is the the non-potted pickups in the Gibson vs the potted 57 classics. There is a characteristic difference between potted and non-potted pickups of the same winding and magnet type. That open "woody" sound only happens with non-potted pickups. You can also get a similar some sort of sound in solid-body guitars with non-potted pickups vintage/low-power pickups.

  • @MikeFromNashville
    @MikeFromNashville 9 лет назад +1

    You are a natural. You make it look effortless.

  • @marcaskew61
    @marcaskew61 6 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the comparison, v useful. I have the Epi 175, can’t afford the Gibson.

  • @komjong
    @komjong 9 лет назад +16

    I think the Epi sounds better. You can immediately notice that the Gibson naturally sounds slightly "brighter" as if treble was increased but the sound is too close for me to waste an extra 2k on the Gib. The Epi has a beautiful tone and looks well built. Those Jazz pioneers/greats like Charlie Christian and Wes Montgomery were poor and couldn't spend much money on guitars. Thank God for inexpensive guitars that sound great or we might not of had the extraordinary music that was and is created by those rich in talent but modest in pocket. Lol

  • @bazaaro1
    @bazaaro1 8 лет назад +3

    Well I did the eyes closed test.
    Its the Epi for me

  • @bandicoot5412
    @bandicoot5412 6 лет назад +1

    Sir, your making those ax's sound sooo good, thanks. The Epi is cleaner and full.

  • @preshamoore
    @preshamoore 8 лет назад +28

    The Gibby has a nasal tone and the Epi has clarity and openess in my opinion !

    • @MDC249
      @MDC249 8 лет назад +1

      mike moe funny thing is the EPI has Gibson pick ups!

    • @EDPGuitar1
      @EDPGuitar1 7 лет назад

      Must be the Wood ! Woody Sound rather than Muddy

    • @DWinegarden2
      @DWinegarden2 5 лет назад +1

      Look at the two different bridges.

    • @hughmongasass3773
      @hughmongasass3773 5 лет назад

      the $2000 sounds way better to me in my pocket

    • @lavenderfana3137
      @lavenderfana3137 4 года назад

      It was also out of tune

  • @PhillipJ
    @PhillipJ 5 лет назад +1

    Nice comparison...epi is brighter than its clarity....Gibson has that midrange nasal smoothness to it....great demo, smooth playing!!

  • @hammondsphoto
    @hammondsphoto 9 лет назад +7

    Both much of a muchness in terms of clarity, note separation, overall tone, etc. Both sounded great - like a 175. The Gibbo was a bit woodier but nothing anyone would notice at a gig or jam.
    The Epi ES-175 Premium is one hell of a guitar for the money. I just chose one over Peerless models that cost 200-300 more. The satin finish, while not luxurious, looks heck of a lot better than the poly gloop on most Epis. It has real Gibson '57s and I assume reasonable wiring as the tone and volume pots actually do something. I think it has a Tusq or some synthetic bone nut (ie. not just plastic) and the bridge looks reasonable. The Kluson-style tuners work and hold tune well. This isn't an Epi that needs immediate mods - it's gig ready.
    Epiphone, I feel, have had to respond to the price bracket between Epi and Gibson. They've done it before with the odd model here and there and the Elitists but the Premium is a real attempt to take on Ibanez, Eastman, Peerless and other brands that sit between Epi and Gibson in terms of price and offer real bang for the buck.

  • @josephurbani7093
    @josephurbani7093 2 года назад

    I like the sound of the epiphone better and the price point is better as well

  • @misterbusy
    @misterbusy 2 года назад

    I bought a used Epiphone ES 175 Reissue (Korean made) a few years back for around $500; I was frankly stunned by the build and finish quality, every bit as good as any Gibson I've ever seen or played. But the sound wasn't quite there so I replaced the wiring harness and the pickups with Gibson '57 classics. Spent around $400 for the upgrades. Wow! Wow! Wow! For less than $1k you can have a guitar that is the rival of any Gibson Custom Shop 175. And to top it off, Gibson stopped making them a few years ago so the prices have skyrocketed.

    • @LoveOneAnotherHeSaid
      @LoveOneAnotherHeSaid Месяц назад

      That guitar from Epiphone COMES with Gibson 57 Classic pickups. Unless yours was somehow interfered with before you got it.

    • @misterbusy
      @misterbusy Месяц назад

      @@LoveOneAnotherHeSaid Yes, the current Epiphone 175 reissue does indeed have '57 Classics and it is an incredible value. But as far as I know, the original Epiphone 175 Korean reissue from 20 years ago did not have Gibson pickups. The pickups I pulled were definitely not Gibson and the guitar had not been modified. In any case, it's a great guitar that can easily hold its own with a Gibson ES-175, which for some goofy reason is out of production. Why Gibson no longer makes the iconic ES-175 is unfathomable. Happy New Year!

  • @NortonNice
    @NortonNice 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the video comparison. I'd say the Epi sounds darker and the Gibby has more upper mids and treble response. Gibby had a more lively tone, and I'd say, a little prettier tone also.

  • @bthellam
    @bthellam 6 лет назад

    Excellent comparison! Thank you! It verified I would like the Epiphone.

  • @Metal_Dinosaur
    @Metal_Dinosaur 9 лет назад +20

    Lmao the Epi sounded better, gonna laugh myself to sleep while I work out how to get one. Good comparison video many thanks.

    • @jordansmith9743
      @jordansmith9743 4 года назад

      The muddy tones of the epi honestly are desired. You can make it sound like the gib if needed but the Gibson needs too much post to get that tone.

    • @ramencurry6672
      @ramencurry6672 3 года назад

      They probably have different pickups. If you install different pickups in an Epiphone you can get a drastically different sound.

  • @steve26643
    @steve26643 9 лет назад +9

    I own both these Brands of 175 , 2005 Gibson, Epi 175. Bang for buck the Epi is great , built and plays great but feed back is a problem at louder levels.
    At the end of the day though the Gibson is just a better instrument in every way. Spend 10 min with each instrument and you will clearly see what I mean., but like I said if you can't afford the real thing the Epi is a great guitar.

  • @a-dawghunchback6927
    @a-dawghunchback6927 2 года назад

    . Nicely played. Looking for one these old Epis myself.

  • @tallman4040
    @tallman4040 4 года назад +1

    I just bought one of these this week. the Epiphone I mean. I can tell no difference between expensive guitar and cheap.

  • @chemy2610
    @chemy2610 8 лет назад

    Both sounds really good the big difference is that you buy an epiphone today and tomorrow it will loose value, but a gibson is an investment, it will hold the value for ever and on most cases it will go up on value.

    • @XFitness4LifeX
      @XFitness4LifeX 8 лет назад +2

      Your thinking is flawed. You are contradicting yourself.
      A guitar first and foremost is a musical instrument, NOT an investment. Unless you are a collector of some sort and hunt for vintage guitars to either save for retirement or put your kids through college this whole "investment" aspect doesn't make any sense.
      I don't know about you, but when I buy an instrument I do so to play the music I love, and sound/feel go before price.
      The whole guitar community is obsessed with buying and selling instruments I play music to experience joy, not to trade my guitars like shares of some Bluechip company.
      Not to bash on Gibson guitars. But most of us average Joes don't deserve to play pro grade instruments.
      I guarantee you, if you put the price difference between that Gibson and Epiphone into lesson you'll end up sounding amazing.

  • @DWinegarden2
    @DWinegarden2 5 лет назад

    The Epiphone has an ABR-1 style bridge the Gibson has the Rosewood bridge , big difference in sting foundation, effects the tone.

  • @eltigre8978
    @eltigre8978 9 лет назад +6

    Wow! Thanks for doing this demo/comparison. I actually like the Epi better. To me the Epiphone is darker and mellower, jazzier to my ears. The Gibson sounds brighter and thinner. I'm assuming both guitars are have the exact same string gauges,etc. Heavier strings and flatwounds would sound fatter and warmer so it's important to compare apples to apples. Overall, my money goes with that Epiphone! Now I want to buy one!

    • @gingerjam2192
      @gingerjam2192 9 лет назад

      +Mark Semmes
      Furthermore the bridges are different. A wooden one on the Gibson and a tunomatic on the Epiphone. That makes an even more drastic difference in sound. I think I prefer a tuneomatic on electric laminated archtop guitars. Never tried one but I will know soon, I'm buying a second hand Gibson tuesday :)

    • @harringtonbenton5517
      @harringtonbenton5517 7 лет назад

      but if you want to sound like the record the Gibson it's what's being played on the record

  • @davekana8388
    @davekana8388 7 лет назад

    I'm going to check out a few, thanks for the side by side!

  • @tonygairomusic911
    @tonygairomusic911 4 года назад

    Am I wrong? The Epiphone sounds noticeably better. Mind you, dude, you sound absolutely wonderful no matter which axe you play. I love your Telecaster playing. All of it. But in comparing the 2 in this side-by-side, I'd take the Epiphone.

  • @pconly4653
    @pconly4653 8 лет назад

    Love them both! Thank you for the comparison.

  • @chazb2907
    @chazb2907 9 лет назад +2

    Great idea testing the the newer Korean 175 vs the vintage 68' Gibson. After listening, it's pretty close, but my ear prefers the Epi Premium,. It seemed to be warmer and not as tinty and thin as the Gibson ... Wow! did I just say I liked the import better!Maybe the Gibson did not have the original stock pick-ups?Last year I bought an Epiphone 175 premiem and am very pleased with the tone and they way it plays ... cheers to you for posting this video!

  • @drummerdaveshouse5848
    @drummerdaveshouse5848 Год назад

    The first one had a more crisp tone. I liked it better. I guess that’s why Nick plays one.

  • @jazzman1954
    @jazzman1954 6 лет назад

    The Epiphone absolutely stands up to the Gibbson. Makes a mockery of the price. I can hear Wes and Grant in your playing. Good on you!

  • @akroguy
    @akroguy 9 лет назад +3

    Lovely playing! I have the Epi 175 reissue and it is everything I would want in a jazz box. The Gibson has a "woodier" more muted tone, to my ears.

  • @douglasharrison5523
    @douglasharrison5523 9 лет назад +41

    The Epiphone sounds better to me.

  • @LordBoleskine
    @LordBoleskine 6 лет назад

    I honestly like the Epiphone better. Sounds more "Joe Pass Guitar Virtuoso" to my ears. That said.. I'm just a random person.. not a Jazz expert. I play guitar but I'm not a Jazz player. I love listening to Jazz but it's just something I never see myself as being able to play. I can play some basic rock/blues and some acoustic strumming.. but I can only dream of playing like this. I have this Epiphone ES-175 Premium though. I always loved the look of the ES-175 so I bought one of these in Sunburst as I thought it a pretty good guitar for the very low price. Plus it's always there.. I can pick it up and play what I play on it and if I do wanna take some Jazz lessons some day. A Les Paul is my main guitar though. I doubt he will ever see this comment but this guy in the video is fantastic in my opinion. I could listen to him playing all day. He reminds me of guys like Wes Montgomery and Joe Pass. A great talent. I wish I could learn some of his talent on guitar. He doesn't look very old. I wonder how long he has been playing and how he learned to be so good at Jazz guitar.

  • @haanashim
    @haanashim 6 лет назад

    I just bought an Epi identical to the one in the video. But I think the Epi here is a bit louder, and without level matching I'm not sure you can trust any comparison

  • @compulsor5853
    @compulsor5853 9 лет назад +1

    Thats some Lush compin there- whatever box your pouring it out of.
    I'm working out that Epi bc that's what I can do; if I could spread it around a little more, I'd grab late 50s Gib- both brands new ones are hairs from the same wig

  • @paullazarus790
    @paullazarus790 8 лет назад

    Great playing and great video! The Epiphone sounds better, no contest, all other arguments on construction and details are moot, proof is in the sound.

  • @121anz
    @121anz 7 лет назад

    The Gibson sounds warmer, no doubt. But: A. replace the metal bridge with the rosewood and the difference will smooth down A LOT. B. Price tag is far higher than difference in sound.

  • @aidonoso
    @aidonoso 7 лет назад

    Sound is an important issue but we forget how the guitar (specially the neck) feels...please Minor7thb5 let us know how do you compare the playability, neck profile, frets, feel of the fingerboard!

  • @donbigotekarsonsilyo9980
    @donbigotekarsonsilyo9980 8 лет назад +1

    Darker just sounds better for jazz applications. Can someone please exchange price tags on these guitars. :)

  • @tinktwiceman
    @tinktwiceman 8 лет назад

    Thank you for this great video. You made my decision much easier to make.

  • @leonardofigueiredo2518
    @leonardofigueiredo2518 8 лет назад

    Good job man... i love epiphone and the low prices they have.

  • @whatwouldhousedo5136
    @whatwouldhousedo5136 7 лет назад

    Great chops man! I actually think the Epi sounds better with your style.

  • @jjohn341
    @jjohn341 8 лет назад

    And yes the epiphone is fuller and warmer in sound.

  • @MOAONAABE
    @MOAONAABE 8 лет назад

    i like the fret edging on the gibby,

  • @lucylola138
    @lucylola138 7 лет назад +1

    If you guys knew anything about these guitars you would notice that the bridges are soooooooo different
    GAME OVER

  • @gingerjam2192
    @gingerjam2192 9 лет назад +2

    The bridges are different. That changes everything.

    • @bobaldo2339
      @bobaldo2339 4 года назад

      I didn't catch that in the video, thanks.

  • @hillmillenia
    @hillmillenia 7 лет назад

    When choosing a guitar for you brand should always be the secondary consideration...and every guitar will sound different whether it be an Epi, Gibson, Gretsch. Ibanez, Etc. Another thing is a Gibson , being an American made instrument, will have labor costs associated with it that drives the price up...That said, I have a 2016 Gibson ES-175 that sounds like it was built by an angel...Angels are pricey :)

  • @pierofocaccia
    @pierofocaccia 9 лет назад +1

    Some Epi 175 have the US Gibson pickup, In this sense, sound wise, the difference is minimal as the pickups are basically the same. The difference (that you cannot get from a video) is the feeling on the neck. I have few Gibson (including a 175CC, although not anymore) and when you play against many Epi you can feel a difference in your hands. It is true that any guitar can be adjusted if taken to the right luthier. Another big difference is that a Gibson will most always hold its market value (if not increase) while an Epi, once purchased, will drop 50% in resell value and will never recover from that. From an investment point of view, this is to be considered as well, when making a purchase.

    • @Minor7thb5
      @Minor7thb5  9 лет назад +7

      Agreed to a certain extent. Anyone knows that a Gibson will hold its value over the long haul. That is why the one I am playing is a $3,200 guitar and the Epi is an $800 guitar. That is stating the obvious and is not my point. People unless they are collectors don't purchase guitars for investment value...they buy them for their playability and sound quality. If it makes a player feel better to play on an expensive guitar than so be it. You are definitely wrong about the playability of Epiphones (at least in this case) the Epi actually played better than the vintage Gibson. Sound wise I think the Gibson actually sounded slightly warmer...but it didn't play better. The bottom line is get the guitar that you want...they are just tools and quite frankly 99.9% of your playing comes from your hands not your gear. I own and play several guitars from Gibson, Eastmans, Fenders, Hofners etc...and they are just tools that if properly set up will allow you to play your style of music.

    • @pierofocaccia
      @pierofocaccia 9 лет назад

      I agree that the player makes the guitar and not the opposite. Give a chinese Squire to McLaughling and it will sound great. The feeling about playing Epi is coming from my personal experience (you cannot say that I am wrong, as you were not with me while I was checking those guitars): I tried Epi 175 (with Chinese pickups, not US pickups), 335 and 339 and I felt the difference. Maybe I was just unlucky. Last but not least, when you spend money you do make an investment. It is up to you if you want your value to last or if you are ok to lose some of it (especially when you buy new guitars). I purchased a new PRS SE Custom 24. I know it will decrease in value over the years, but my purpose was to have a reliable "cheap" guitar when I play in places I don't trust. Otherwise I play my Les Paul .

    • @Minor7thb5
      @Minor7thb5  9 лет назад

      I can tell you and I share a passion for guitars. You probably know more about Gibsons than I do since I saw several Gibson demos on your page (great guitars by the way!) You are also right in that I can't judge the Epis you tried since feel and set up are personal preferences. Anyway my point is that you can get a lot of mileage out of some (not all guitars). If I had to have one guitar it would be my Martin D18 ... If I could have 2 guitars it would be my Martin D18 and my Fender American 60th anniversary Tele...so despite touting the virtues of Epis etc... If money is not an issue and you can swing it always go for the "brand" name. At the end of the day it's just about making music and enjoying yourself.

    • @pierofocaccia
      @pierofocaccia 9 лет назад

      +Minor7thb5 I agree with you. Every guitar has it's sweet spot and most of the time the big question is if the price gap justify the subtle difference between the " original" and the "copy"

    • @pierofocaccia
      @pierofocaccia 9 лет назад

      Anthony L There is some true up to the point. In 1940 the average income for an american was about 900$ a year. So a guitar that cost $400 (the Super400) was the equivalent of a guitar today that costs $15,000 (so you see, things have not changed that much) :)

  • @RavnerRavner
    @RavnerRavner 7 лет назад

    THE SECRET RETAIL DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW... the sound is in the heart & fingers.

  • @loveone4292
    @loveone4292 5 лет назад

    I'm new to the channel,i'm not a professional player but i love music and this is tasty

  • @randallcotten5069
    @randallcotten5069 3 года назад

    Great demonstration of these two guitars' sounds. Thanks for just playing! Sure, the 68 is sounds warmer just because it's older. But is it $2,300 better? Hmmm....

  • @doctorskull8197
    @doctorskull8197 6 лет назад

    Nice playing and tone.

  • @jjohn341
    @jjohn341 8 лет назад

    Love your playing

  • @CarlosCepinha
    @CarlosCepinha 7 лет назад

    Same pickups and the guitars are worlds apart. The gibson trebles sound really smooth.

  • @mnbv990
    @mnbv990 6 лет назад

    The Epiphone for me too.

  • @majorliberator5661
    @majorliberator5661 3 года назад

    Great playing!

  • @remley8877
    @remley8877 8 лет назад

    Excellent playing!

  • @JazzGuitarScrapbook
    @JazzGuitarScrapbook 8 лет назад

    I own a '68 ES175 and they are much more acoustically resonant (to my ears) than the modern guitars either Epiphone or Gibson. I believe you can hear this on the video quite clearly. The guitar is a bit out of tune tho... Epiphone sounds 'smoother' to me - it might suit some better, certainly a good sounding guitar.
    Thing is a good guitar is a good guitar. I'm not a snob about these things, but the old ones do have a lot of mojo - something about old, well worn instruments that gets me going. Given the price of that vintage guitar is about the same as a new Gibson 175, it seems a no brainer - I love the old Gibsons.
    But it's a distinctive sound too - nasal someone said, that's right. But also bright and airy. It's not a stereotype idea of a smooth sounding archtop. You need to 'roll off' for that (and the old tone pots don't cut that much.) In fact the guitar is hugely characterful.
    But a new Epiphone could be the touring workhorse guitar, for sure, going by the sound (I've not tried one). What a bargain! Although I've enjoyed the entry level Eastman 175 copies as well which are a similar price and acoustically very lively like the old Gibsons.

    • @amityrockwell5162
      @amityrockwell5162 4 года назад

      The Gibson will always be a little more out of tune. You can't fine tune the intonation of a wooden bridge like you can a tune-o-matic. That's what eventually sold me on the Epi. I also tossed the original bridge on my Tele in favor of individual string saddles. The out of tune up the neck is very distracting to me but I don't think anybody listening would care. Kind of funny.

  • @jimiguitar100
    @jimiguitar100 6 лет назад

    Excellent playing

  • @jamesmcfarland2648
    @jamesmcfarland2648 4 года назад

    Epi sounds better. Worn frets on the gibson?

  • @MrJoshDoty
    @MrJoshDoty 9 лет назад +1

    Awesome! Both sound great. I can't hear a difference really... But my hear isn't great. Is there a difference in the sound live?

    • @Minor7thb5
      @Minor7thb5  9 лет назад +6

      The 1968 Gibson Es 175 is slightly warmer and darker. That probably comes with the wood aging. However, the Epiphone played much better and actually feels like a more solidly built guitar.

  • @thomasnettleton289
    @thomasnettleton289 6 лет назад

    The Epiphone sounds amazing. The Gibson, not so much. Will be buying the Epiphone ES-175.

  • @gringogreen4719
    @gringogreen4719 7 лет назад

    There's a difference but not a $2000 difference! I really dig my Ibanez AK 86 but its more of a rockabilly set up.

  • @U2BER2012
    @U2BER2012 6 лет назад

    A couple of things: either the Volume/ Tone was down on the Gibson ,it had old strings or the pickups were subjected to some strong magnetic field? It sounds dull and out of tune; compared to the Epi.

  • @TJSegrest
    @TJSegrest 9 лет назад

    I think the Epi sounds better. You make em both sound excellent, though.

    • @Minor7thb5
      @Minor7thb5  9 лет назад

      Thank you. I think the epi is a great guitar that more than holds its own. There is a real nice richness to it when I hear it again. The guitar played like butter and had a lot of mojo!

    • @vechap
      @vechap 9 лет назад

      +Minor7thb5 I have to agree with T.J., the Epi sounds better to me as well; very nice definition. Amazing price difference. But then again, everyone likes what they like. As a player, I would not pay the price difference, but if I were a collector that would be a different story.

  • @CharlesMottLMSW
    @CharlesMottLMSW 4 года назад

    Slap some upgraded pickups in the 175. If the playability and build quality is good I would go with the epiphone.

  • @arispap12
    @arispap12 7 лет назад +2

    Gibson sounds authentic to a typical vintage ES175, it will age better and hold a large portion of it's value. The true legend of jazz guitars. If you need one you already know it but it won't make you Joe Pass, Pat Metheny or Jonathan Kreisberg but it might inspire you to musical directions.
    Epiphone is absolutely everything a laminate arch top should be, sounds and plays professionally if setup properly and could give years of enjoyment to players who don't listen with their eyes. A true workingman's jazz box at a crazy low price, even more if you find one used. Get two.

  • @jazzman1954
    @jazzman1954 8 лет назад +1

    Grant Green lives!

  • @kaukarangkarang
    @kaukarangkarang 9 лет назад

    very nice playing !

  • @jeff.the.guitarist
    @jeff.the.guitarist 9 лет назад

    Nice playing man- I currently have an epiphone es 175 myself and I was considering selling it along with some other instruments in exchange for the gibson, but after seeing this video I'm not sure if there would be much of a point in that, as I kind of like the epi's sound more. I was wondering if you had any thoughts? Or maybe other guitars you'd recommend? Thanks

    • @Minor7thb5
      @Minor7thb5  9 лет назад

      I would not recommend selling it to buy a real Gibson Es 175 unless you played the specific guitar in question. This is important as no 2 guitars are ever the same I owned an Aria Es 175 copy years ago that played better than an actual Gibson. Other guitars I would recommend include Eastman ar 503ce and they make an ar371 which are better built and sounding guitars than many epiphones. Good luck.

    • @jeff.the.guitarist
      @jeff.the.guitarist 9 лет назад

      +Minor7thb5 alright thanks

    • @bobbob1574
      @bobbob1574 9 лет назад

      +Minor7thb5 might just sell my vintage ibanez 335 copy to get this epipy

    • @jimmyb1378
      @jimmyb1378 9 лет назад

      +Bob Bob Hi, what Ibby might you be talking about? I have a couple, my favorite of which is a 1995, AS-120. I've put it up against several Gibby 335's and even a 330 ... it holds its own.

    • @bobbob1574
      @bobbob1574 9 лет назад

      It was a 2395. I wouldn't say its better then even the epipy as it was really uncomfortable to play standing up and the neck was really slim. Im really happy with my epipy 175 now :))

  • @mannoplanet
    @mannoplanet 5 лет назад

    great playing

  • @timolock4331
    @timolock4331 4 года назад

    Which one would you go for mr flat5th

  • @johnbeddoe782
    @johnbeddoe782 9 лет назад

    wonder what the string gauge and type difference was between them? The epi doesn't usually get shipped with flatwounds, for example

  • @frankjames6590
    @frankjames6590 8 лет назад +7

    the Gibson has more clarity...more ;highs ..if u will....epiphone a little darker sound..

  • @JacobCritch
    @JacobCritch 6 лет назад

    I like the more 'real' sound coming from the Gibson this time. All things considered I just bought a Epi 335 today

  • @aitorbilbao1475
    @aitorbilbao1475 8 лет назад +4

    pues parece increíble pero a mi me gusta más el sonido de la Epiphone, la Gibson tiene un sonido acústico que no me gusta y es más delgado. La Epiphone se acerca más a al sonido de jazz que prefiero.

    • @Osvaldo-Barco194
      @Osvaldo-Barco194 6 лет назад +1

      También note lo mismo que vos, el sonido acústico y flaco de la Gibson con respecto a la Epiphone, lo único que se me ocurre pensar es que haya cerrado un poco más el tono a la Epi que a la Gibson.
      Me gustó mucho más el precio y el tono de la Epiphone.
      De hecho tengo una Sheraton fabricada en Korea con un tono súper jazzero, retire las pastillas originales y le hice colocar Dimarzio Paf Pro Dp 151 , la uso con dos amplificadores en simultáneo (Peavey Bandit 112 Scorpion y Roland Micro Cube RX) sonido súper stereo !!!
      Saludos

  • @janbisek
    @janbisek 8 лет назад +3

    Epiphone is a surprise. Gibson O.K.

  • @JL-bu8bz
    @JL-bu8bz 5 лет назад

    Gibson sound better. More bright in high notes and more bass in low. But Epi sounds more like standards jazz records.

  • @flavietu
    @flavietu 5 лет назад

    I prefer the Epi

  • @lekinguitarrista8445
    @lekinguitarrista8445 6 лет назад

    Between this epiphone 175 and a eastman 371 which one you like better and why? Thanks

  • @alexortiz5835
    @alexortiz5835 8 лет назад

    really what do you think about???

  • @trevormarshall3503
    @trevormarshall3503 6 лет назад

    He deserves to go for the Gibson.

    • @Minor7thb5
      @Minor7thb5  6 лет назад

      Trevor Marshall Thanks I own a Gibson 1980 ES 175d

    • @joshgibson3618
      @joshgibson3618 5 лет назад

      @@Minor7thb5 Great playing, I forgot how expensive the gibson 175 is. Now the Gibson company has a new CEO in 2019.

  • @harringtonbenton5517
    @harringtonbenton5517 7 лет назад

    many guitar sound better than the Gibson but the Gibson's produce the sound that's on the record

  • @fleet4fingers
    @fleet4fingers 7 лет назад

    If it were me. I'd get the Epiphone and buy Gibson pickups and put them in. The Gibson overall sounds better, but the tones are so close that you could get that sound with a little E.Q. or color it in some way if you wanted to go cheaper than pickups. Epiphone all the way for me. Lower cost, good build quality that rivals Gibson, You're on a good track.

    • @haanashim
      @haanashim 6 лет назад

      The Epiphone HAS Gibson 57 pups.

    • @fleet4fingers
      @fleet4fingers 4 года назад

      @@haanashim then go with the Epiphone if those are Gibson pickups. I’ve heard that lesser quality wood is used, idk y a company would do that and effect ta person view of the company but that’s what I’ve heard.. the has a louder pickup, sounds similar to the Gibson. Get the epiphone for price issues, I would.

    • @davidklein5007
      @davidklein5007 4 года назад

      @@fleet4fingers I have the Epiphone Premium and I don't know how the wood compares to the Gibson. I'd say it was a little more live acoustically than the current Gibsons, and more like older ES-175s in that respect. It doesn't have that dull thunk of current Gibsons I've tried in stores, closer to a spruce jazz box.

  • @edadpops1709
    @edadpops1709 7 лет назад

    Very close cant afford the 68 sooo the epi sounds better 😊

  • @davidkornblatt991
    @davidkornblatt991 8 лет назад

    I have both a gibson 335 and an Epiphone and if I had to chose a guitar overall, it's a Gibson. You can't make a silk purse out of sow' s ear. Trust me, play them both for the next ten years, and then we will talk.

  • @davidallen346
    @davidallen346 8 лет назад

    The Gibson has a sweeter sound , plus its aged well.

  • @jazzman1954
    @jazzman1954 8 лет назад

    Well the Epi is in tune at least! Has the Gibson got old flat wounds on? Who would buy American, play American in this situation?

  • @ald.5147
    @ald.5147 8 лет назад +1

    Gibson had a little more high end and crispier sound.

    • @raymondj3869
      @raymondj3869 7 лет назад

      I agree. Thanks for confirming what i was hearing. I thought the gibson was hands down better.

  • @maxti6
    @maxti6 9 лет назад +4

    The real test will be to see if that Epiphone can hold together for 48 years

    • @skadinkus419
      @skadinkus419 8 лет назад +1

      Why, if the Gibson is multiple times the cost of the Epi?

    • @BigBobbyBoLo
      @BigBobbyBoLo 7 лет назад +1

      Also Gibson build quality these days compared to the past are miles away. Repair shops love Gibsons because they keep them in business.

    • @2skyland
      @2skyland 7 лет назад +1

      In 48 years you could probably save enough to buy another Epi to replace it if it didn't.

    • @jazzgtrwannabe8415
      @jazzgtrwannabe8415 7 лет назад +1

      I certainly won't be around to ask.

  • @IsaacKDick
    @IsaacKDick 5 лет назад +2

    The Gibson sounds almost 3,55*better.

  • @bobmarleyswar
    @bobmarleyswar 8 лет назад

    I must be going crazy I love Epiphone they sound like Gibsons. I hope they dont raise the price :) My Les Paul Tribute Plus sounds like a Gibson Les Paul with a change to thinker strings from Gibson the sustain is out of this world. :)
    You know when you get a nice tube amp like a Bassebreaker's they all just mellow out to and get all silky :) sounding

    • @Minor7thb5
      @Minor7thb5  8 лет назад

      Epiphones in general are great guitars. I own a Korean Epiphone Sheraton with the Gibson logo from the late 1990s... I have never swapped out electronics and I swear it plays better than many 335s I have owned or played.

    • @bobmarleyswar
      @bobmarleyswar 8 лет назад

      :)

    • @niptodstan
      @niptodstan 8 лет назад

      Minor7thb5. You said the word there. 'Korean' it makes a big difference. I've got a USA Hamer and a Korean Hamer. The US is amazing and the Korean is chasing up close behind. It's easily as good as my Gibson Les Paul and only cost $150. I also still have the guitar I learned to play on 45 years ago. An Eko Ekoette acoustic. The sound is as good as a Martin after all these years and the neck Is great.