I'm glad the EPA is being more strict with their test cycles. this does not change anything about the actual range you will get on the car, all it means is gives you a far more accurate representateion of the mileage you'll be getting out of your car. this is SO much more important when tesla just uses the EPA started range in their range estimates instead of real world ragne. so if they do the same in europe as in the usa with their range calculations, you'll think you have 400 miles, then get just 270 miles. thats terrible. i would MUCH rather have an accurate range estimate. if anything, i would like a conservative estimate. that way i know if it looks like i might barely make it, i'll know i can actually make i. while with tesla currently, you gotta add this in after the fact and say "well it says i have 40 miles, that means i only have 30 miles". im so glad the epa is getting stricter with the ev range estimates.
If you’re interested in a MY I recommend not test driving a new/refreshed M3 - the refinement on the new one will ruin the MY for you.. I did just this over the weekend and I’ll be waiting to get a MY until it gets all of the refresh updates!
Unfortunate that it is messy to compare when things are not apples to apples. As you said having an updated epa spec on prior years would be the best way to compare this. They should also have an EPA spec version that should be included in vendors statements rather than this messy system where prior years are not directly comparable and needs a lot of research. definitely more a flaw of the epa. Surprisingly reasonable price for the software unlock. Basically similar price/kwh to the battery upgrades from Aptera (which may go up by the time they release). The cost 10-20k extra for bigger batteries bundled with unwanted other extras really needs to go as an industry standard.
For about $3,000 more you can get an almost 2 second quicker 0 to 60 AWD and only lose 10 mi of range while also getting Quicksilver as an option. Why would I get the RWD?
@@TailosiveEV You'd rather spend 2k on a paint color vs 3k on a quicker and better handling car? Dual motor can have 7 seats as well. What's all this fuss about range? I thought you said 250 miles was more than enough. Besides 10 miles is the difference between +/- 5 psi in your tires. Someone needs to think.
I am a fan of the new EPA test cycle numbers. The thing they should mandate is that it should be retested for all vehicles. Companies at that scale should be able to retest (or more realistcally update the algoritms that give) the range estimate. I honestly did not feel that the old numbers made a ton of sense because there were other automakers mainly Ford that undersold their range figures because people drive like humans and not ideally all the time. Like the first thing I told people to do if they considred any EV was to look up real world range numbers cause whatever manufactures especially Tesla was not right.
@@TailosiveEV I do not know. That is the problem. The US govt mandated a few years ago that mpg needs to be more realistic to real world numbers. It should be the same way fit EV battery range estimates.
I am sold on the LFP batteries being the longer lasting variety at this point. I was hoping that this was the improved version of that LFP, but as soon as I saw the tax breaks I knew it had to be the standard cobalt batteries. Give me a LR RWD LFP in the M3 or the MY and then your getting closer to what I want. But the deleted stalks on the refresh is a NO GO, HARD PASS for me. That likely means this MY configuration is one of the last that will offer stalks. That is too bad. I won't be a buyer until they can provide what the drivers want, not what Tesla wants.
MY RWD sold in 2023 have a different battery from those sold in 2024. The older cars have less locked out. That's likely why some cars will get 40 extra miles and some will get 60.
So those people that had that software locked range could have charged to 100% every day without worry. If I owned one of those ai would just charge to 100% and not pay the up charge for the extra range.
@@TailosiveEV Drew, I love your videos and I share your appreciation for a "good value" product (I love your TailosiveTech content too). According to the excellent Model Y RWD RUclips videos from Branden Flasch, there is a 15.1% buffer at the top (100% displayed is 84.9% actual state of charge). Branden made several great videos on this trim (2024 RWD, 260 mile range car). Branden borrowed my Model Y to make these videos.
@thejose24 yeah don't listen to Drew. The sound is a big difference especially on the refresh model 3 long range it had 2 amps and 2 extra subs and double the speakers and he "couldn't hear a difference"
we need the Xiaomi SU7 in the USA to compete with Tesla. More range for less money is the kind of competition that will keep Tesla on it's toes with a company like Xiaomi Tesla will need to push it's engineers to stay ahead.
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The model y is more common than the Prius now
Tesla is the new Prius. That can be taken as an insult or a compliment 😂
@@jonahhammond2438 more likely insult
Still reminds me of a Prius design wise. Which isn’t a bad thing to me I never understood the hate on the Prius.
I'm glad the EPA is being more strict with their test cycles. this does not change anything about the actual range you will get on the car, all it means is gives you a far more accurate representateion of the mileage you'll be getting out of your car. this is SO much more important when tesla just uses the EPA started range in their range estimates instead of real world ragne. so if they do the same in europe as in the usa with their range calculations, you'll think you have 400 miles, then get just 270 miles. thats terrible. i would MUCH rather have an accurate range estimate. if anything, i would like a conservative estimate. that way i know if it looks like i might barely make it, i'll know i can actually make i. while with tesla currently, you gotta add this in after the fact and say "well it says i have 40 miles, that means i only have 30 miles".
im so glad the epa is getting stricter with the ev range estimates.
If you’re interested in a MY I recommend not test driving a new/refreshed M3 - the refinement on the new one will ruin the MY for you.. I did just this over the weekend and I’ll be waiting to get a MY until it gets all of the refresh updates!
Now it's time to get these Panasonic Cells in the Model 3 Please!
I gotta get mine!
Are the little notches for the parcel shelf there in the RWD if I buy a parcel shelf after market?
RWD LR M3 with panasonic batteries would be so sick
glad to have the option, I’m getting it!
Just grabbed the quicksilver
Almost bought a model y last year but I am SO GLAD I waited. I don’t need to spend extra just for AWD.
Unfortunate that it is messy to compare when things are not apples to apples. As you said having an updated epa spec on prior years would be the best way to compare this. They should also have an EPA spec version that should be included in vendors statements rather than this messy system where prior years are not directly comparable and needs a lot of research. definitely more a flaw of the epa.
Surprisingly reasonable price for the software unlock. Basically similar price/kwh to the battery upgrades from Aptera (which may go up by the time they release). The cost 10-20k extra for bigger batteries bundled with unwanted other extras really needs to go as an industry standard.
Love the long range RWD option being available, but it's still not enough to convince me to walk away from that AWD LR 0-60 tesla launch.
Does the new Model 3 Performance use the Panasonic battery pack ?
Yes. That’s why it gets the federal tax credit
For about $3,000 more you can get an almost 2 second quicker 0 to 60 AWD and only lose 10 mi of range while also getting Quicksilver as an option. Why would I get the RWD?
You’re telling me you’ll hand me $3K and I’ll get more range? Ultra red all the way
Most ppl dont care 0 to 60 but only care about the range
@@TailosiveEV You'd rather spend 2k on a paint color vs 3k on a quicker and better handling car? Dual motor can have 7 seats as well. What's all this fuss about range? I thought you said 250 miles was more than enough. Besides 10 miles is the difference between +/- 5 psi in your tires. Someone needs to think.
@@Therestof True to an extent but the difference in 0-60 outweighs the difference in range by a wide margin. Plus you have the security of AWD.
$3,000 can be the deciding factor if the budget is tight.
I’m happy they got the silver
Doesn't this mean we could buy a Standard RWD model Y and just charge it to 100% every day??
I am a fan of the new EPA test cycle numbers. The thing they should mandate is that it should be retested for all vehicles. Companies at that scale should be able to retest (or more realistcally update the algoritms that give) the range estimate.
I honestly did not feel that the old numbers made a ton of sense because there were other automakers mainly Ford that undersold their range figures because people drive like humans and not ideally all the time. Like the first thing I told people to do if they considred any EV was to look up real world range numbers cause whatever manufactures especially Tesla was not right.
It’s still quite confusing. Model 3/Y long range numbers went down. But the LFP model 3 range didn’t change at all? So which is more accurate?
@@TailosiveEV I do not know. That is the problem. The US govt mandated a few years ago that mpg needs to be more realistic to real world numbers. It should be the same way fit EV battery range estimates.
Can you add a Parcel shelf to this model though?
I’m sure
While we’re at wishing, I wish they’d release a single motor AWD Model S. 365 HP is more than enough for me.
I am sold on the LFP batteries being the longer lasting variety at this point. I was hoping that this was the improved version of that LFP, but as soon as I saw the tax breaks I knew it had to be the standard cobalt batteries. Give me a LR RWD LFP in the M3 or the MY and then your getting closer to what I want. But the deleted stalks on the refresh is a NO GO, HARD PASS for me. That likely means this MY configuration is one of the last that will offer stalks. That is too bad. I won't be a buyer until they can provide what the drivers want, not what Tesla wants.
Don’t the dual motors differ so you lose some benefit besides acceleration?
They provide better traction control, but like I said your tires make a bigger difference
MY RWD sold in 2023 have a different battery from those sold in 2024. The older cars have less locked out. That's likely why some cars will get 40 extra miles and some will get 60.
So those people that had that software locked range could have charged to 100% every day without worry. If I owned one of those ai would just charge to 100% and not pay the up charge for the extra range.
Assuming the buffer is on the top, which is logical but not confirmed
@@TailosiveEV Drew, I love your videos and I share your appreciation for a "good value" product (I love your TailosiveTech content too). According to the excellent Model Y RWD RUclips videos from Branden Flasch, there is a 15.1% buffer at the top (100% displayed is 84.9% actual state of charge). Branden made several great videos on this trim (2024 RWD, 260 mile range car). Branden borrowed my Model Y to make these videos.
wait till end of quarter to see discounts so they can meet their quarterly earnings forecast. Since Elon said sales would be up.
I hope he makes a video on tesla offering 0.99% apr for model y
Too bad the Standard range Model Y doesn’t come with premium sound/speakers. Otherwise I’d totally be looking into configuring one.
Normal sound system is perfectly acceptable imo. Have you heard it?
@@TailosiveEV No. just finished your video. Yeah I think I’ll wait for the refresh lol
I’ve only heard people complain about the lack of subwoofer who have never heard it without 😂
@@TailosiveEV I consider myself an audiophile so I pretty sure I’ll hear it
@thejose24 yeah don't listen to Drew. The sound is a big difference especially on the refresh model 3 long range it had 2 amps and 2 extra subs and double the speakers and he "couldn't hear a difference"
we need the Xiaomi SU7 in the USA to compete with Tesla. More range for less money is the kind of competition that will keep Tesla on it's toes with a company like Xiaomi Tesla will need to push it's engineers to stay ahead.
tbh I would rather see a M3 RWD Long Range using the new Shenxing PLUS battery that's cheaper (even after POS tax credit).
@7:49 Err,.. how about, re-hire the Supercharger team Elon (and go get clean, the Ketamine is not helping your mood)
Not upset. It's just Tesla doing Tesla things.