As regards Tashigi, I hear you on her turning out to be Kuina being random or seemingly because it's often been argued that Zoro doesn't have a rival because Mihawk is the bar not his rival. Although, I agree it would have been more cohesive to the overall story to reveal it earlier when she was introduced but Oda works in mysterious ways. So I wouldn't be mad at it or see it as random in that regard. Also I'd be happy if Oda went in an inherited will route with Kuina's will so Tashigi & Zoro would share her will. Similarly how Luffy & Sabo share Ace's but how Oda would connect Tashigi with Kuina without Tashigi secretly being her, I don't know how he'd go about it. Food for thought & love your videos by the way!
I thought Luffy would be the only CoC coating user for at least a little while. Zoro getting CoC and CoC coating in the same arc is wild. Strawhats will be disgusting post-Wano.
As a grown ass man with no friends, you one piece youtubers really do provide a warm and cozy atmosphere in all of your various collabs. Truly magical how stories can bring people together to learn and grow as a community. God bless, you guys. Also as a zoro fanboy this arc has been possibly the best in terms of overall character growth and history for him. Can't wait for him to meet his dad.
Yo, i know you prob already know this, but as long as you stay true to yourself and get out there a little bit, youll make a solid few friends. Take a page out of luffys book and simply life life to the fullest, without a care of what anyone might think of you. Peace bro
Hey, just wanted to say, you may think you are alone when it comes to having no friends or dealing with loneliness, but the truth is, most of us out here are in the same boat as well. This past year I myself have been dealing with not really having friends. But the thing is, it's okay. Just be yourself, do what you love and spread good vibes, and you'll definitely attract your type of people who'd love you for who you are. Just wanted to remind you that you aren't alone. Love you and hope you are doing good. :)
Hey man sometimes with no one to talk to in person about One piece and the like we can feel alone. That’s the great thing about these guys and their content. It gives us a place to see that we’re not alone. Always happy to chat One piece and all sorts with all
Loved the idea of the raid suit and enma not being the "power up" but the trigger for the real power up of Sanji and Zoro. Sanji's genetics and Zoro's conquerors haki being unleashed 100%.
This is quite a beautiful assessment. We’ve always known there’s something about Zoro and Sanji, and always figured they were somewhat… held back, instead of just not strong enough. They’ve now kind of unlocked the better versions of themselves that technically have almost always been there.
This chapter for me ties perfectly with Zoro's words to Hiyori when he said to her "Too many Captain will sink the ship"......he's been unconsciously holding himself back. but now with remembering Luffy's words that he wants him as a Conquerer, released his ambition to stand above everyone without overshadowing Luffy.
@@Boogerdick69 I honestly think Zoro's armament is as strong as Luffy's. Luffy's and Zoro's training was paralleled in the same chapter I believe. But you have a point on future sight.
Secretly, i knew Zoro was on a different level, it was clear in all his fights, even when he fought Luffy in the Alabasta arc, I could tell he's a no bs beast.
@@Elif_sh lol guess you don’t remember that movie centered around Zoro and his friend. Zoro seems more his second favorite but his top 3 is definitely the original trio.
I was rereading the chapter and it seems like King's fire is eating Zoro's slashes. So my theory is that King gets more and more adaptable the more he gets exposed to a certain effect. The first time Zoro cuts King he bleeds, then he never bleeds again. I think the only way to kill/beat a Lunarian is to do a lot of damage really fast before King can adapt to that type of attack.
Or... And this is a sad possibility... Oda (or his assistants) messed up and made King bleed by mistake. Shit like this happened before and Oda always find a way to excuse himself
@@Blue-te1il I think sanji is meh but you have to respect him.Exspecially when oda is hyping his power up just as much.He's a prince after all so you know what that means!
First sanji's germa awakening then zoro using advance conqueror haki and now you know where this will heading to. Bro, luffy is going to unlock something special too against kaido that I can't wait to see.
I think luffy would not get power up. In enies lobby luffy was the first to awaken his power . He used gear second before zoro and sanji awaken their ability. So luffy learning coc coating and being able to split sky is enough to fight with kaido . But it just my thought ,anything can happen.
I don’t think Enma is about the users haki at all. Like you all said it’s about matching up to it’s previous user. Conquerors haki is about the will of the user. I think it’s Enma saying to Zoro, “Show me your will”. “show me your resolve!” Similar to how you can’t pick up Thor’s hammer unless you’re worthy, Enma can’t be wielded until Zoro showed it his will. Enma doesn’t want his haki, it wants Zoro to prove his will is worthy of Enmas strength.
haki is willpower. like literally translated even afaik. you can punch people in armament because your willpower exceeds the restriction of logia users not having physical bodies. conquerors isnt a roll of dice who has it or not, you need the willpower to be a king. conquerors haki doesnt make conquerors, conquerors are having the willpower of a conqueror naturally.
Oda had always had Zoro following the path of Bushido. One believe in Bushido was that a warrior would need better swords. We see Zoro follow that through his history. But another belief was “ Musashi believed that a warrior should study every weapon, not just their preferred one. In doing this, a warrior will be able to engage an enemy of any kind ...” Which you see playing out in this chapter. It’s not about dominating a blade, it’s about understanding it so he can use it to the best of his ability.
I love the weird dinosaur abilities. Like who can actually argue about how Dinosaurs “truly” hunted when we can’t even come to a consensus about them having feathers or not lol
My headcanon is that God's Valley was named ironically by the Celestial Dragons to mock the Lunarians that were dragged down from the redline to the valley. That the slaves that Garp and Roger fought to protect was the Lunarians (inadvertently protecting the Celestial Dragons) because Rocks knew of their innate abilities and sought to liberate to build his army. Thats where Kaido met King.
If Usopp ended up evil because he was actually a perfect liar this entire time I would lose my shit bruh. That would be the ultimate twist of all twists.
I think we will see the remnants of Shimotsuki Ushimaru. It looks like Zoro fell where Kaido chained up young Yamato and where she unlocked conqueror haki. Which means he is closed to the cave where Shimotsuki Ushimaru and the other samurai was help captive. Could be the Zoro vs king final fighting location and backstory of Shimotsuki Ushimaru final assault on Kaido.
Thing I noticed is when King got hit with shishi sonson he went white eyed and the flames weren’t just on his back but where the attack hit. So maybe King has fire regeneration like Marco or he stores damage in his fire and exploding is how he lets that damage out
Well now the difference between Luffy and Zoro is only the opportunity and timing to have his haki bloomed.. Luffy literally was given so many strong opponents post timeskip that his haki bloomed faster and way more than Zoro.. While Zoro's growth suspended due to the weak nature of his opponents pre-Wano..
It was obvious to any true and objective Fan. Not these who donwplay Zoro constantly because in their 3 piece, its sanji>Zoro. But for example never did with oden, and never said "oh its all his exalibur bla bla" It was obvious since Zoros first mentioning, he and luffy will get at the top. Conqueror Duo. Destined to get at the top of the Foodchain.
There a might be a deeper connection between the lunarian and D clan with the lunarian being able to survive inhospitable environment while the D clan have the drive and fate to turn the most disastrous situations to their favour.
Oda setting up the lore for the Void Century to be revealed. A race that can survive any environment, Ponoglyph, advanced technology. I'm beginning to understand Roger wishing he lived in Joyboy's era, it had to be beyond anyone's imagination
@@iceek1778 you clearly never practiced anything in your life so you don't understand how this works, but Zoro had nothing special, he literally trained his ass off day and night, and no one ever commented on him being a prodigy in the dojo. His excessive training and drive started paying off almost 10 years later, while Kuina was beating adults as a child, that's actual talent, Zoro is pure hard work.
IN EAST BLUE - risk his hand to be worthy of using the "cursed sword" IN WANO - risk his life to be worthy of using the "cursed sword" that's one thing on how you compliment with the sword, then there's the other part where you should know what you are using the sword for (identifies what object are you cutting/ KING'S RACE)
O’Hara don’t disrespect saitama like that, he didn’t just wake up and was strong lol. His training regiment is part of a running gag within the series. He was a regular dude.
Didn't saitama describe it as one day waking up and realizing he had gone bald and gained super strength essentially. Been awhile since I've read or watched it though so I may be wrong.
nah there is literally a youtuber who does the same thing as saitama. It's not that hard of a training. He maybe a regular dude but his power comes from something we don't know
@@kurosakiichigo6467 that was the joke, it’s regular strength and conditioning training. He kept so hard in the routine he lost his hair. Also we can’t compare real life vs manga and anime.
@@TheHorribleBarista ppl are just jealous cuz saitama claps 😂 and has the best manga drawing like my dude be drawing those fire 🔥 drawing in 2 weeks wtf 😳
Luffy and Zoro leaving Wano Admiral Level. Kaido's list from greats is missing Rayleigh and Mihawk I doubt he fought them. Zoro & Luffy are really a force to be reckoned with. This fight also shows how much of a monster King is he's a tank and shows his fighting prowess and intellect is next level. Not too often when we see Zoro with his back against the wall like this & King isn't taking Zoro lightly or giving him a chance to recover he's constantly on him. King feels like a villain Katakuri didn't feel like a villain he was testing luffy and letting him off the hook. Definitely will go down as one of the best fights in One Piece.
Yoooo if sanji has the same ability that king does from his genes, imagine if queen knew his weakness and used that against sanji, sanji tells this weakness to zoro, and zoro uses this to defeat king. Idk kinda a mess but that’s why it’s oda and not me writing this story
All y’all miss out on the emphasis of the last page, zoro finally realize he can be a king and still follow luffy. It seems as he was unconsciously surpassing it because he thought he could be the only king.
The theory I like is that dragon was an ex marine got really high up and found out something and left why he is the most wanted because of what he found out
Maybe.. but aokiji is an ex admiral and there was a scene were sakazuki simply said the navy is no more concerned about him...but yes he could have learned something aokiji didn't
The craziest twist of a bad guy being in the straw hats would be Brook being Rocks D. Xebec. Left in the Florian Triangle to be forgotten but due to his DF he survived and by his fate ended up with the next world changing crew, the straw hat pirates. Ooouuu lol
Think it's a perfect time to show a flashback of kings past, in the next chapter just to add context on why he is so dedicated to kaidos ambitions, and why he is the last of the lunarian race, would add much more meaning to his duel with zoro.
Zoro has better coa, unlocked coc, decent coo, durability, fast speed, and destructive techniques. Idk how can sanji be able to fight zoro with only fast speed when he does not have strong coa to begin with, yes he has better coo but zoro has decent coo that can also match him. If you think about it sanji modified body comes from king not just his fire, king took zoro attacks with no damage but we know zoro will beat king meaning he also beat sanji
Wow this was honestly one of my favorite videos or yours. Would love to see you do these types of vids more often with other one piece RUclipsrs large and small
Lmao Brook betraying Luffy at the end in the battle with blackbeard: Brook: Luffy-san... Luffy:*turns around to see brook isnt there Brook: you've been cut *we see brook using full armament and sheathing his sword with ice around the two the crew: Wha?! BROOK?! Brook: yoohohohoho
Shout out to B.D.A. and Ohara. I listen to the statement about the Gomu Gomu no Mi Fruit being eaten by Joy Boy and Roger (maybe). What if the Gomu Gomu no Mi Fruit only re-appeared when everything would have been set in stone. Meaning that all the right people that would set in motion the Prophecy. We all know that the Devil Fruits come back at a certain point, but we don’t know how long it will take for the Devil Fruit to reappear. We haven’t heard anything about another user having to use the Gomu Gomu no Mi Fruit even dating back 20 or 40 years. Even looking back at the history timeline. We all assume that it was Joy Boy, but did it really take over hundred and hundred of years for the Gomu Gomu no Mi Fruit to revive. Because of the VOID Century no one knows what happened and if the Gomu Gomu no Mi Fruit was involved. If it was involved, why did it take so long for it to revive? Was it waiting on Luffy? Was it waiting for Princess Shirahoshi to appear/be born? We all know that the Ryugu Kingdom was waiting for Joy Boy to come back to fulfill the prophecy, but he never returned. We can all assume that Joy Boy died or it could be that Im had Joy Boy locked away in Mary Geoise and he died there. Plus I can’t wait for the backstory on King and Kaido and what Kaido is hiding in Wano and for Zoro's backstory...I would love it if Zoro is from Wano. But I’m happy that Zoro is now starting to understand Enma. I don’t like seeing Zoro getting his ass beat, but I know that this beating will help him grow into a better swordsman. Also is there a meaning behind Monkey D. Dragon tattoo on his face. But great videos by both B.D.A. and Ohara. I was very excited and loved the video. Sorry for the long comment
Shanks may not have invested in Luffy because of Luffy but rather IN Luffy as the user of the gomu gomu fruit. He was surprised that Luffy ate it when he did but then came to terms that Luffy would indeed be the next user of the fruit which is this prophesised figure. He then gave him the hat and sacrificed an arm to get him on his way and in the right direction. This seems the most logical conclusion after the whole reveal of the fruit's importance. .
I believe that the way the celestial dragons eradicated the lunarians was through king himself kind of like itatchi situation where he had to be the one to do it, king killed all of the lunarians and thats how he became the last of his kind. If they had a weakness then he would know about it and be the only one able to exploit it.
The topic of being a future double crosser, I think Ivankov could potentially have that role. I was thinking he could be a secret agent working directly under Imu and Imu may have a more known male identity. It only makes sense that the Revolutionaries would have a marine spy within their ranks and Ivankov would have one of the more impactful switch of sides. Nobody questioned how Ivankov had all that food to give Luffy in Impel Down and host a party? Then during the war Ivankov blabs about knowing Kuma and next thing you know Kuma is a slave that he doesn’t go to save.
1 thing a always taught about was when luffy went vs 3 admirals with a stick. so if he had unconsciously attack them by coding that stick with conqerers haki and see the results
The monster trio started off without the perks of their lineage. They became very strong and then we found it.. i think Oda is saying everyone has to work hard regardless of how epic the line is.
I love that I always feel like I’m sitting there having the conversation with y’all when I’m listening to these videos in the morning. Also this chapter was Dope af
I think that everyone has been dancing around the edge of what is going on with Enma. Kozaburo said that swords have a singular purpose, to cut people for the sake of killing of them. That's what he believed and how he thought swords should behave. This doesnt mean that all sword smiths think the same way though and that all of them have this same intention in mind when creating great blades, but its surely what Kozaburo was thinking. So when Shimotsuki Kozaburo was forging Enma, he poured all of his feelings about the true cutting nature of swords into the forging process and thus created Enma's terrifying nature, to want to cut and kill everything that comes its way. I don't think that Enma is testing Zoro or has ever tested anyone at all, I think of Enma as like a dog that just wants to play. Enma likes to fight and cut and kill stuff. Enma draws on your haki because being imbued with haki allows the blade to cut more, and that's all that Enma wants to do. Oden wielded Enma so easily because he never held back in life, he always ran head first into everything and was always going full blast in any situation. Enma probably never had to try to take haki away from Oden because he was already pumping as much haki through it as he could from the get go to release the biggest craziest attack that he could. We've never seen Oden hesitate or think things through in a fight, he just goes and does stuff with childlike wonder and enthusiasm, never letting up. So again, Enma is like a young puppy, full of energy and wanting to play. He wants you to pick him up and start slashing away and cutting stuff. Zoro has been holding back while fighting King. He's trying to be smart and strategic, he knows that he broke most of the bones in his body from defending against the Big Mom/Kaido ranged attack, and the only reason he's up and fighting at all is because of some weird medicine that is allowing him to ignore his injuries. So of course, Zoro isnt going all out, he's trying to calculate how much to exert at any given moment so that he can preserve his strength as much as possible while he can still stand. He's only using haki when he really needs it. Enma doesnt like this. Enma thinks zoro is being a pussy and boring at the same time. Enma wants to play. Enma is drawing out Zoro's haki because he wants to cut stuff. Enma wants Zoro to stop holding back and just go hog wild, fight to kill. Its not that Enma is testing Zoro to decide whether or not he's worthy of wielding him, he's just enacting his own will of wanting to cut and kill.
When you guys talked about Sabo, it put a thought in my head about what happened at the reverie. The reaction of Dadan and all them, what if they were only freaked out because they didn’t know Sabo was even alive? That would definitely freak you out. I’d assume their reaction would be much different if that was the case but I thought I’d mention it here.
I just feel like Tashigi is Kuina, but she was picked up by the revolutionary army to be a undercover agent to be a fake marine, Hence why her pops said she wasn't going to be the strongest swordsman. she already had her role made for her, cause stairs, like how do stairs kill people but not falling like over the side of a building or slashed lol. It was just a lame reason to die. They also picked up Sabo as a bonus.
I don't think wado likes zoro because he was "destined" to get it with his presumed shimotsuki heritage, I think wado likes zoro because it was weilded by kuhina first and it sees that zoro is doing his best to honor kuhina's will, and wado is very inspired and honored by zoro respecting its previous weilder to that extent, I think wado is just glad zoro didn't forget about kuhina.
Here's my theory: If the theory of Shanks being narrator is true it makes sense that if Shanks and Luffy fight WG and win then Shanks will be the next king of the world because we know Luffy don't like ruling anything and Shanks is that guy who maintains the balance of good and evil..
Yeah, I think King’s fire definitely regenerates him. That explains the sizzling wound from Lion Song so it’s not like Zoro isn’t hurting king he just not hurting him enough. Like when he went so far as to block tatsumaki but willingly took a point black stab. So I guess he’s not willing to take a wound if Zoro isn’t close by the explosion from that wound. he may be able to decide if wants to release the fire that’s regenerating the wound or allow it to finish regenerating him, depending on strategic advantage.
personally i don’t like this theory because that’s just another marco copy and paste. i would much rather king just be an absolute tank in his own way. so far all first commanders have been tanks in their own way like marco a regen freak, katakuri with future sight and a wannabe logia, and now king who is from a race of incredible feats with a df of incredible strength and maybe if king gets conquers coating too then that on top of that.
I’ve had this theory for awhile now, but the Lunarians were probably the slaves at Gods valley. They were once Gods who live at the top of the red line (the home of the gods) and then were sent down by the new gods into their “valley” hence its name. It’s both an insult and an explanation, and can also explain why King is still around as the CDs got to power ages ago and King is like 40 something I think. Can also tie into how he met Kaido, and why he’s the only one left cause there’s no way he’s the sole survivor unless it was a recent eradication or else it makes no sense as to how they were considered gods with the CDs. Also what if they didn’t ride on dragons, but rode on Lunarians and they were just mistaken as dragon and that’s where the name “Celestial dragons” comes from (that last parts a stretch, but could make some sense so I had to throw it in there)
Honestly the way that I’m interpreting Zoro and his whole conquers haki situation is that we haven’t really seen Zoro be pushed to the edge besides Kaku and the Pacifista fights respectfully. So for him to let go of his limits and to strive for more really kicked the gear that he needed to reach that next level
Maybe Germa got their hands on Lunarian genes at some point, that would explain their toughness. I mean, Queen's sword broke into pieces, and Sanji's Diable Jambe could have some Lunarian stuff behind it
19:17 there’s a theory going around that Garp is Luffys Maternal grandfather (so his mom is Garps daughter) while Rocks is his paternal grandfather (making dragon Rocks son). More on this theory @grandlinereview
@@sayitguelmez if you watch the theory video @grandlinereview they go over this point in which 1. Dragon took luffys moms name a common Japanese practice when married if the women has a higher status and or more money 2. Garp adopted Dragon like he did with ace and they have a step sibling to lover’s relationship and this also follows the theme that the sins of the father are not the sins of the son. They’re might be other ways as well but I suggest watching the video for more clarity
@@sayitguelmez it would be the same as ace taking his moms name. Garp would realize that luffy and both dragon have no chance if they were rocks d dragon and rocks d luffy. So they inherited monkey d to be able to live without that burden.
As per my understanding, maybe Zoro was only told by Kozabura that he made a sword and named it the God of the underworld. He didn't specifically address Enma at that moment. So just realized that yeah once he told Zoro about this sword, so this is IT, Enma. He clarified that Yes it is Enma.
I don't think King is troll, well maybe a little, but I think why he says things like "Ahh a direct hit." or looks up in the air after being hit. I think he's actually enjoying it, like he's actually a masochist which is fitting for his suit and would make sense why he wouldn't want people to see his face if he was making weird creepy faces of pleasure every time he got hit.
Back in the day I was a thery writer in narutobase, wrote quite s few theories, but I never try that with one piece, the fun is in the unknown. This is the best part about it
I'm just starting the video... But man, I felt a rush of emotions, from the hype that this was a collab video... To seeing that not only is it a collab video, but it's also going to be hour long video of the good stuff. I'm ecstatic to dig in.
maybe part of the one piece was the gomu gomu no mi and what's written on the poneglyph is how to acess the hidden memories that are stuck in it, the fruit could have belonged to joyboy in the past and roger could have laughed so hard because he experienced all of joy boy's happiness in a few seconds
Just a disclaimer: I know most of you all form your opinions based on the early TCB scans translations but if you're truly One Piece fans, you would also read the official Viz translation and then form your opinions. The TCB team does a great job but they're still human and mistakes in translations do happen. For example, these are some of the differences verbatim that are slight but may affect the way people actually interpret the chapter and the way they theory craft later on: 1) "So you've also got kingly ambitions" (TCB) VS "So you intend to be a King, then?" (VIZ) -> Many people took the 'ALSO' in the former translation and started making theories on what it suggests (primarily King being a CoC user as well) but as you can see, the VIZ translation allows for none of that and all it does is show that King acknowledges Zoro's Conqueror ambitions. 2) "After all, I made promises to my captain... and my oldest friend" (TCB) VS "I've got a promise to keep to my captain... and my best friend" (VIZ) -> The use of "oldest friend" vs "best friend" imo don't affect the reader's understanding of this portion that much because if you have enough reading comprehension, you know that they both refer to Kuina BUT at the same time, "oldest friend" and "best friend" mean quite different things if you just take them at face value.
How long was the partnership between Kaido and Doflamingo going already cuz it's really nice how it's all cards, even to Doffy's crew! King, Queen, Jack, Doffy's Joker, Corazon and then Trebol being clubs I think and the flag guy being aces and Sugar being clovers? I'm not entirely sure which was which but like the entire deck is there essentially
Funny thing about destiny is that regardless of anything everyone has a definite future. It may or may not be known what it is. So whether or not it's 'written' somewhere, the straw hats are meant for greatness. But as mentioned in the video they have to work for their power. This in no way feels like Naruto being handed power from Sage of six paths because of destiny. As for Luffy's fruit being special, I would be OK with it being uniquely special to do something in the end similar to how it was uniquely suited to fight Enel. But personally I would hate to see some insane power or broken awakening. The beauty to Luffy's fruit is it's actually quite simple and not over powered. He's strong because of himself not his fruit.
Imagine luffy gets knocked out and some weird old bearded dude thats floating tells him he is his son reborn and has to fight a god like being... why did they have to fuck up naruto like that i mean be fucking reasonable and not like here take this because you will be fighting my mom ...
@@ayke9288 for real! I actually loved Naruto at the beginning but the bs power ups really ruined it for me. 'Work harder than everyone else to be strong but then just get handed power' smh.
For the devil fruit discussion, to dive even further, I think there is a chance that the devil fruits are actually gods and someone made them to trap their souls.
I like the idea of the devil fruit containing part of the soul of the previous user so that even if the fruit isnt that special in and of itself it matters how luffys uses it but it also has the soul aspect of it destiny and such
My theory is that the lunarians are basically the Pillar Men of OP, in the sense of: they are waaaay superior than every other race (in terms of strength, power, etc etc), they don't really age and they didn't reproduce as much because they don't age, making it "easier" to wipe them all.
SPOILER ALERT! (once again please do not look at this if you don’t want to be spoiled) His face was revealed in the most recent chapter 1035 and he does look very young like Katakuri.
One thing I've always wanted to know about dragon is how he got the tribal tatoos on his face. I think it might be tied to why he is the most wanted man in OP or his strength or the poneglyph(inside the tatoos there are 3 square looking images which could mean he has the knowledge of 3 of the 4 poneglyphs - Just speculation). But it 1 thing is for sure, it not like Dragon is tryna make a fashion statement with it. N/B - Great breakdown and great content
I believe that Rocks is Garp's brother-in-law meaning Dragon's mother is Rocks sister. Or on a farfetched idea is that Garp and Rocks are brothers and Rocks is Dragon's actual father but Garp adopted Dragon as a baby. Or way far out theory Dragon's mother was unknowingly pregnant when she met Garp and when Dragon was born Garp went after Rocks believing Rocks violated his wife
Love this video. Also happy to see any anime video where Bleach gets mentioned. Bleach always has a special place for me as the show I feel properly got me into anime/manga
I have fallen just head over heals with one piece. Never really thought I would get into this show, used to be a critique before I even gave the series a chance, but earlier this year while I was laid off work, I binged the entire series and just caught up to wano arc. Wano is on a whole other level 🔥 🔥 🔥 the Sakuga is just plastered all over this wano arc
back in your review of the chapter where Queen suggests Sanji may have Lunarian DNA spliced into him to enable Diable Jambe I commented in speculation that Luffy's mother may be Lunarian too in terms of his ability to perform Red Hawk/Roc rather than some vulcanisation or inheritance of Ace's will. Dragon had the means of exploring obscure places such as a potential last refuge for any remaining Lunarians. It wouldn't be a strong coincidence of them being enslaved by those Dragon sought to overthrow. It could also explain too, Luffy's resilience rather than just owing to willpower/gomu gomu fruit.
I just saw in another comment that King is 47 - this can be entirely POSSIBLE that Luffy's mum is Lunarian! And Dragon is trying to get revenge for the Lunarian race? 🤯🤯
Zoro has got to be of a line of feudal lords. It’s in his name after all. The heroic figure he is named after was secretly Don Diego de la Vega who was essentially a feudal lord of his time in 16th century California if memory serves me well. It can’t be just the sword mastery the reason Oda named him after him, knowing his symbolism and foreshadowing tendencies. Not to mention Zoro is Spanish for “fox” if I am not mistaken and he just happens to learn the Foxfire Style from Kinemon which may or may not play a role in his fight with King.
I feel like Ocean Sovereignty/Conquest of the Sea was more of a wide “blast” of haki rather than an actual projectile. So when Zoro hopped in front he’s slowed the movement of it enough where Law can get them all out.
Once this Wano arc is over and the Strawhats move on to their next destination, I think Zoro will stay behind in Wano. This will help his character development to further understand his history, the history of Wano, the history of the swords and train to fully master his swordsmanship and Conquerers Haki. He'll eventually rejoin his team midway through the next arc when they really need him.
thanks for having me bro ❤️
As regards Tashigi, I hear you on her turning out to be Kuina being random or seemingly because it's often been argued that Zoro doesn't have a rival because Mihawk is the bar not his rival.
Although, I agree it would have been more cohesive to the overall story to reveal it earlier when she was introduced but Oda works in mysterious ways.
So I wouldn't be mad at it or see it as random in that regard. Also I'd be happy if Oda went in an inherited will route with Kuina's will so Tashigi & Zoro would share her will.
Similarly how Luffy & Sabo share Ace's but how Oda would connect Tashigi with Kuina without Tashigi secretly being her, I don't know how he'd go about it. Food for thought & love your videos by the way!
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loving this duo
This was an awesome listen, you two are great together and the discussion was amazing from both of you!! Please do more
Love when you guy colab together
I thought Luffy would be the only CoC coating user for at least a little while. Zoro getting CoC and CoC coating in the same arc is wild. Strawhats will be disgusting post-Wano.
And he used it before luffy when he went ashura against kaku.
@@abc1234567a1 wtf are you on about? Enma was the one draining Zoro's haki and it was what awakened his CoC
@@-Dovahkiin seems you aren’t equipped to comprehend, so im not equipped to explain at least not to you.
luffy using it yamato and zoro too is not that rare anymore
@@abc1234567a1 I'm not equipped to comprehend? Nah, explain it to me, how can you prove Zoro used advanced CoC to defeat Kaku
As a grown ass man with no friends, you one piece youtubers really do provide a warm and cozy atmosphere in all of your various collabs. Truly magical how stories can bring people together to learn and grow as a community. God bless, you guys.
Also as a zoro fanboy this arc has been possibly the best in terms of overall character growth and history for him. Can't wait for him to meet his dad.
Yo, i know you prob already know this, but as long as you stay true to yourself and get out there a little bit, youll make a solid few friends. Take a page out of luffys book and simply life life to the fullest, without a care of what anyone might think of you. Peace bro
Lets start a club?
Hey, just wanted to say, you may think you are alone when it comes to having no friends or dealing with loneliness, but the truth is, most of us out here are in the same boat as well. This past year I myself have been dealing with not really having friends. But the thing is, it's okay. Just be yourself, do what you love and spread good vibes, and you'll definitely attract your type of people who'd love you for who you are.
Just wanted to remind you that you aren't alone. Love you and hope you are doing good. :)
Hey man sometimes with no one to talk to in person about One piece and the like we can feel alone. That’s the great thing about these guys and their content. It gives us a place to see that we’re not alone.
Always happy to chat One piece and all sorts with all
I have no friends either
Loved the idea of the raid suit and enma not being the "power up" but the trigger for the real power up of Sanji and Zoro. Sanji's genetics and Zoro's conquerors haki being unleashed 100%.
This is quite a beautiful assessment. We’ve always known there’s something about Zoro and Sanji, and always figured they were somewhat… held back, instead of just not strong enough. They’ve now kind of unlocked the better versions of themselves that technically have almost always been there.
Yep.
This chapter for me ties perfectly with Zoro's words to Hiyori when he said to her "Too many Captain will sink the ship"......he's been unconsciously holding himself back. but now with remembering Luffy's words that he wants him as a Conquerer, released his ambition to stand above everyone without overshadowing Luffy.
There is no official rulebook of pirates which states the vice captain cannot be on par with the captain
@@sushmitdey144 that isn’t the case with the straw hats. Luffy has acoa and future sight
@@Boogerdick69 I honestly think Zoro's armament is as strong as Luffy's. Luffy's and Zoro's training was paralleled in the same chapter I believe. But you have a point on future sight.
@@lilhill4621 true
@@Boogerdick69 it is the case
Secretly, i knew Zoro was on a different level, it was clear in all his fights, even when he fought Luffy in the Alabasta arc, I could tell he's a no bs beast.
And Nami is on another level than both of them 🤣🤣
@@alifputrawan9565 Happiness punch solos most of the universe
Well zoro is the other main character after luffy that need to be focused on from the day he promised luffy that he will be the greatest swordsman
@@Blue-te1il and Oda made a whole movie( One piece Gold) on Nami as leading role lol (nami is his 2nd fav character i think)
@@Elif_sh lol guess you don’t remember that movie centered around Zoro and his friend. Zoro seems more his second favorite but his top 3 is definitely the original trio.
Oda essentially used roofpiece to give Zoro a haki bloom which is pretty cool when you think about it.
No shit
@@heroricspiritfreinen38 calm down lol
He placed zoro on roofpiece to give him a haki bloom. This is what we call a stretch lol
@@ThatsNotChi is it though..... He was more impressive than most of them even before the haki bloom
@@ThatsNotChi “used roofpiece” not “place zoro” read good sit
I was rereading the chapter and it seems like King's fire is eating Zoro's slashes. So my theory is that King gets more and more adaptable the more he gets exposed to a certain effect. The first time Zoro cuts King he bleeds, then he never bleeds again. I think the only way to kill/beat a Lunarian is to do a lot of damage really fast before King can adapt to that type of attack.
Or... And this is a sad possibility... Oda (or his assistants) messed up and made King bleed by mistake. Shit like this happened before and Oda always find a way to excuse himself
@@zannchristo nah maybe he's wearing ketchup in his clothes
@@eVill420 the man gotta stay prepared for when he fights a hot dog
Exactly what I was thinking.....
So lunarian is scp-682???
Coating all 3 swords with CoC, that’s our boy Zoro. Now we won’t see haters saying things like ‘It was Enma doing all the work’’.
Except for KOL
Enma would kill zoro if he wasnt a mad lad
@@ChrisBMonkey 🤣😂😂
🤣 they(KoL and sanji community) did not downgrade oden but zoro, i think they are just hating zoro because he has better highlight than sanji.
@@Blue-te1il I think sanji is meh but you have to respect him.Exspecially when oda is hyping his power up just as much.He's a prince after all so you know what that means!
First sanji's germa awakening then zoro using advance conqueror haki and now you know where this will heading to. Bro, luffy is going to unlock something special too against kaido that I can't wait to see.
Onigashima should be renamed the Kingmaker, as we have several Kings on the rise Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, and possibly even Kidd
awakening
I think luffy would not get power up.
In enies lobby luffy was the first to awaken his power . He used gear second before zoro and sanji awaken their ability. So luffy learning coc coating and being able to split sky is enough to fight with kaido .
But it just my thought ,anything can happen.
Awakening is for sure know
It just my thought
The right hand must be as strong or close to the captains level in order to lead in their absence. Zoro reaching that level is really amazing.
Vc
He was always that level. you clowns just refuse to believe it.
@@lildon6534 yah zoro is Rayleigh of strawhat simple
Zoro needs to be that strong to avoid dying to luffys shenanigans 🤣🤣
@@beeloblak 😂😂 you’re right
I don’t think Enma is about the users haki at all. Like you all said it’s about matching up to it’s previous user. Conquerors haki is about the will of the user. I think it’s Enma saying to Zoro, “Show me your will”. “show me your resolve!”
Similar to how you can’t pick up Thor’s hammer unless you’re worthy, Enma can’t be wielded until Zoro showed it his will. Enma doesn’t want his haki, it wants Zoro to prove his will is worthy of Enmas strength.
haki is willpower. like literally translated even afaik. you can punch people in armament because your willpower exceeds the restriction of logia users not having physical bodies. conquerors isnt a roll of dice who has it or not, you need the willpower to be a king. conquerors haki doesnt make conquerors, conquerors are having the willpower of a conqueror naturally.
I’m wondering if the will instilled in the swords is some higher form of coating that when a will is strong enough it stays w the blade
i like this take of how enma acts
Maybe Impel Down's different hells were initially meant to test Lunarians adaptability
Is it a hint that king's clothes were similar to Magellan's, proving that king was a former chief warden of Impel Down before join beast pirate?
Oda had always had Zoro following the path of Bushido. One believe in Bushido was that a warrior would need better swords. We see Zoro follow that through his history. But another belief was “ Musashi believed that a warrior should study every weapon, not just their preferred one. In doing this, a warrior will be able to engage an enemy of any kind ...” Which you see playing out in this chapter. It’s not about dominating a blade, it’s about understanding it so he can use it to the best of his ability.
I love the weird dinosaur abilities. Like who can actually argue about how Dinosaurs “truly” hunted when we can’t even come to a consensus about them having feathers or not lol
My headcanon is that God's Valley was named ironically by the Celestial Dragons to mock the Lunarians that were dragged down from the redline to the valley. That the slaves that Garp and Roger fought to protect was the Lunarians (inadvertently protecting the Celestial Dragons) because Rocks knew of their innate abilities and sought to liberate to build his army. Thats where Kaido met King.
If Usopp ended up evil because he was actually a perfect liar this entire time I would lose my shit bruh. That would be the ultimate twist of all twists.
BRO AS A FELLOW NAKAMA PLEASE MAKE THIS A SERIES! Also throughly enjoying the hour long format as well sir!
You can check out his main channel
Love that you partnered up with Ohara!!
Love both your channels content!!
esp since y'all taking about Zoro my fav character!
I think we will see the remnants of Shimotsuki Ushimaru. It looks like Zoro fell where Kaido chained up young Yamato and where she unlocked conqueror haki. Which means he is closed to the cave where Shimotsuki Ushimaru and the other samurai was help captive. Could be the Zoro vs king final fighting location and backstory of Shimotsuki Ushimaru final assault on Kaido.
Thing I noticed is when King got hit with shishi sonson he went white eyed and the flames weren’t just on his back but where the attack hit. So maybe King has fire regeneration like Marco or he stores damage in his fire and exploding is how he lets that damage out
Ayeee that'd be dope
That would seriously be dope....
Yeah I think the storing damage thing is what is happening.
This will be crazy
You won
Well now the difference between Luffy and Zoro is only the opportunity and timing to have his haki bloomed.. Luffy literally was given so many strong opponents post timeskip that his haki bloomed faster and way more than Zoro.. While Zoro's growth suspended due to the weak nature of his opponents pre-Wano..
It was obvious to any true and objective Fan.
Not these who donwplay Zoro constantly because in their 3 piece, its sanji>Zoro.
But for example never did with oden, and never said "oh its all his exalibur bla bla"
It was obvious since Zoros first mentioning, he and luffy will get at the top.
Conqueror Duo. Destined to get at the top of the Foodchain.
zoro > sanji imo
@@AlphaA070 lol read again he not saying Sanji is stronger than Zoro
I like how Oda had to be like "you use conquers haki too?" For fans to realize he has it.
Maybe because people still tried to deny he had it after he scarred kaido lmao
Zoro is about to open his eye and awaken his Mangekyo Sharingan and release his bankai next chapter
And learn fire breathing style
I think eye scar is just for feature
i believe conquers is what Enma wanted all along but Zoro kept trying to give it arnament and that is why he struggled so much
My thought as well..
Possibly. This would explain y oden was the only samurai who was capable of wielding it and y zoro was the second. They’re both conq haki users.
This is exactly what I needed after this chapter lol thank you BDA
There a might be a deeper connection between the lunarian and D clan with the lunarian being able to survive inhospitable environment while the D clan have the drive and fate to turn the most disastrous situations to their favour.
Oda setting up the lore for the Void Century to be revealed. A race that can survive any environment, Ponoglyph, advanced technology. I'm beginning to understand Roger wishing he lived in Joyboy's era, it had to be beyond anyone's imagination
Bruh that some stupid ass logic right there
Zoro was born op,then he grow up to be badass. All hail Zoro, god of direction
God of direction 🤌🤣
He just trained a lot, Kuina toyed with him when they were kids, so Zoro wasn't a prodigy.
@@CharroArgentino how is Zoro not a prodigy like do you actually read the chapters
@@CharroArgentino that just tells kuina was more talented doesn't deny the fact that he still had great talent
@@iceek1778 you clearly never practiced anything in your life so you don't understand how this works, but Zoro had nothing special, he literally trained his ass off day and night, and no one ever commented on him being a prodigy in the dojo. His excessive training and drive started paying off almost 10 years later, while Kuina was beating adults as a child, that's actual talent, Zoro is pure hard work.
This chapter is one of those you just gotta talk about it with friends
Fr
IN EAST BLUE - risk his hand to be worthy of using the "cursed sword"
IN WANO - risk his life to be worthy of using the "cursed sword"
that's one thing on how you compliment with the sword,
then there's the other part where you should know what you are using the sword for (identifies what object are you cutting/ KING'S RACE)
Yeah, cant forget about his fight against JAZZ BONER :'D
O’Hara don’t disrespect saitama like that, he didn’t just wake up and was strong lol. His training regiment is part of a running gag within the series. He was a regular dude.
Didn't saitama describe it as one day waking up and realizing he had gone bald and gained super strength essentially. Been awhile since I've read or watched it though so I may be wrong.
@@fallout_boy__9437 the explanation why he’s bald is that he trained so hard he lost his hair.
nah there is literally a youtuber who does the same thing as saitama. It's not that hard of a training. He maybe a regular dude but his power comes from something we don't know
@@kurosakiichigo6467 that was the joke, it’s regular strength and conditioning training. He kept so hard in the routine he lost his hair. Also we can’t compare real life vs manga and anime.
@@TheHorribleBarista ppl are just jealous cuz saitama claps 😂 and has the best manga drawing like my dude be drawing those fire 🔥 drawing in 2 weeks wtf 😳
Luffy and Zoro leaving Wano Admiral Level. Kaido's list from greats is missing Rayleigh and Mihawk I doubt he fought them. Zoro & Luffy are really a force to be reckoned with. This fight also shows how much of a monster King is he's a tank and shows his fighting prowess and intellect is next level. Not too often when we see Zoro with his back against the wall like this & King isn't taking Zoro lightly or giving him a chance to recover he's constantly on him. King feels like a villain Katakuri didn't feel like a villain he was testing luffy and letting him off the hook. Definitely will go down as one of the best fights in One Piece.
Current Luffy is yonko level right now Zoro is 1st division commander level right now
In the vivercard they say king is 47 so he defenatelly wasn't around from the void century 😂
Is it possible he is biologically 47 with Lunarians aging slower than humans
@@DoctorAnimorph No bruh cause 47 is 47. There's no "biologically 47". Biological child and adult are things, but not an age in years.
Yeah I think a connection to God Valley 40 years ago makes the most sense for King based on his age.
God valley... They were known as gods... valley
Maybe he was not around but he knows more about the past 🤷🏽♂️
Yoooo if sanji has the same ability that king does from his genes, imagine if queen knew his weakness and used that against sanji, sanji tells this weakness to zoro, and zoro uses this to defeat king. Idk kinda a mess but that’s why it’s oda and not me writing this story
All y’all miss out on the emphasis of the last page, zoro finally realize he can be a king and still follow luffy. It seems as he was unconsciously surpassing it because he thought he could be the only king.
The theory I like is that dragon was an ex marine got really high up and found out something and left why he is the most wanted because of what he found out
Maybe.. but aokiji is an ex admiral and there was a scene were sakazuki simply said the navy is no more concerned about him...but yes he could have learned something aokiji didn't
Tashigi is my favorite character and this cover art was my all-time favorite. I want to believe it wasn't a coincidence.
Killua getting zapped and not feeling it and king trolling Zoro after being stapped were the same energy to me
The craziest twist of a bad guy being in the straw hats would be Brook being Rocks D. Xebec. Left in the Florian Triangle to be forgotten but due to his DF he survived and by his fate ended up with the next world changing crew, the straw hat pirates. Ooouuu lol
Thought I clicked on a Tekking video with that video length
Think it's a perfect time to show a flashback of kings past, in the next chapter just to add context on why he is so dedicated to kaidos ambitions, and why he is the last of the lunarian race, would add much more meaning to his duel with zoro.
I have a feeling his past might be tied to the God Valley incident 40 years ago. He is 47 years old so would have been a child at the time
My toes now
My swords now
Great video! More of these would be great.
You two have a great vibe with each other 😁
I heard my roommates arguing about Zoro vs Sanji this morning while I was tryna sleep. Can we just chill bruh, we can’t just like them both? 😭
I like them both but
Sanji > Zoro
Zoro has better coa, unlocked coc, decent coo, durability, fast speed, and destructive techniques. Idk how can sanji be able to fight zoro with only fast speed when he does not have strong coa to begin with, yes he has better coo but zoro has decent coo that can also match him. If you think about it sanji modified body comes from king not just his fire, king took zoro attacks with no damage but we know zoro will beat king meaning he also beat sanji
Wow this was honestly one of my favorite videos or yours. Would love to see you do these types of vids more often with other one piece RUclipsrs large and small
Lmao Brook betraying Luffy at the end in the battle with blackbeard:
Brook: Luffy-san...
Luffy:*turns around to see brook isnt there
Brook: you've been cut
*we see brook using full armament and sheathing his sword with ice around the two
the crew: Wha?! BROOK?!
Brook: yoohohohoho
Usopp is more likely to betray the crew
@@I_am_mario009 how come?
@G̶A̶R̶P̶ yes and yassop left the island to escape his immense conquers haki presence😂
Shout out to B.D.A. and Ohara.
I listen to the statement about the Gomu Gomu no Mi Fruit being eaten by Joy Boy and Roger (maybe). What if the Gomu Gomu no Mi Fruit only re-appeared when everything would have been set in stone. Meaning that all the right people that would set in motion the Prophecy. We all know that the Devil Fruits come back at a certain point, but we don’t know how long it will take for the Devil Fruit to reappear. We haven’t heard anything about another user having to use the Gomu Gomu no Mi Fruit even dating back 20 or 40 years. Even looking back at the history timeline.
We all assume that it was Joy Boy, but did it really take over hundred and hundred of years for the Gomu Gomu no Mi Fruit to revive. Because of the VOID Century no one knows what happened and if the Gomu Gomu no Mi Fruit was involved. If it was involved, why did it take so long for it to revive? Was it waiting on Luffy? Was it waiting for Princess Shirahoshi to appear/be born?
We all know that the Ryugu Kingdom was waiting for Joy Boy to come back to fulfill the prophecy, but he never returned. We can all assume that Joy Boy died or it could be that Im had Joy Boy locked away in Mary Geoise and he died there. Plus I can’t wait for the backstory on King and Kaido and what Kaido is hiding in Wano and for Zoro's backstory...I would love it if Zoro is from Wano. But I’m happy that Zoro is now starting to understand Enma. I don’t like seeing Zoro getting his ass beat, but I know that this beating will help him grow into a better swordsman. Also is there a meaning behind Monkey D. Dragon tattoo on his face.
But great videos by both B.D.A. and Ohara. I was very excited and loved the video.
Sorry for the long comment
Shanks may not have invested in Luffy because of Luffy but rather IN Luffy as the user of the gomu gomu fruit. He was surprised that Luffy ate it when he did but then came to terms that Luffy would indeed be the next user of the fruit which is this prophesised figure. He then gave him the hat and sacrificed an arm to get him on his way and in the right direction. This seems the most logical conclusion after the whole reveal of the fruit's importance. .
I believe that the way the celestial dragons eradicated the lunarians was through king himself kind of like itatchi situation where he had to be the one to do it, king killed all of the lunarians and thats how he became the last of his kind. If they had a weakness then he would know about it and be the only one able to exploit it.
The topic of being a future double crosser, I think Ivankov could potentially have that role. I was thinking he could be a secret agent working directly under Imu and Imu may have a more known male identity. It only makes sense that the Revolutionaries would have a marine spy within their ranks and Ivankov would have one of the more impactful switch of sides. Nobody questioned how Ivankov had all that food to give Luffy in Impel Down and host a party? Then during the war Ivankov blabs about knowing Kuma and next thing you know Kuma is a slave that he doesn’t go to save.
1 thing a always taught about was when luffy went vs 3 admirals with a stick. so if he had unconsciously attack them by coding that stick with conqerers haki and see the results
Saitama didn’t woke up one day and was super strong. He actually trained a lot I’m pretty sure
probably talking about the other heroes or monsters
good vid, I like the take that Enma got so used to Oden's haki output that it won't accept anything less.
The monster trio started off without the perks of their lineage. They became very strong and then we found it.. i think Oda is saying everyone has to work hard regardless of how epic the line is.
I love that I always feel like I’m sitting there having the conversation with y’all when I’m listening to these videos in the morning. Also this chapter was
Dope af
I think that everyone has been dancing around the edge of what is going on with Enma. Kozaburo said that swords have a singular purpose, to cut people for the sake of killing of them. That's what he believed and how he thought swords should behave. This doesnt mean that all sword smiths think the same way though and that all of them have this same intention in mind when creating great blades, but its surely what Kozaburo was thinking. So when Shimotsuki Kozaburo was forging Enma, he poured all of his feelings about the true cutting nature of swords into the forging process and thus created Enma's terrifying nature, to want to cut and kill everything that comes its way. I don't think that Enma is testing Zoro or has ever tested anyone at all, I think of Enma as like a dog that just wants to play. Enma likes to fight and cut and kill stuff. Enma draws on your haki because being imbued with haki allows the blade to cut more, and that's all that Enma wants to do. Oden wielded Enma so easily because he never held back in life, he always ran head first into everything and was always going full blast in any situation. Enma probably never had to try to take haki away from Oden because he was already pumping as much haki through it as he could from the get go to release the biggest craziest attack that he could. We've never seen Oden hesitate or think things through in a fight, he just goes and does stuff with childlike wonder and enthusiasm, never letting up.
So again, Enma is like a young puppy, full of energy and wanting to play. He wants you to pick him up and start slashing away and cutting stuff. Zoro has been holding back while fighting King. He's trying to be smart and strategic, he knows that he broke most of the bones in his body from defending against the Big Mom/Kaido ranged attack, and the only reason he's up and fighting at all is because of some weird medicine that is allowing him to ignore his injuries. So of course, Zoro isnt going all out, he's trying to calculate how much to exert at any given moment so that he can preserve his strength as much as possible while he can still stand. He's only using haki when he really needs it. Enma doesnt like this. Enma thinks zoro is being a pussy and boring at the same time. Enma wants to play. Enma is drawing out Zoro's haki because he wants to cut stuff. Enma wants Zoro to stop holding back and just go hog wild, fight to kill. Its not that Enma is testing Zoro to decide whether or not he's worthy of wielding him, he's just enacting his own will of wanting to cut and kill.
I can’t be sure until more is revealed but I just feel like you cracked code with this
When you guys talked about Sabo, it put a thought in my head about what happened at the reverie. The reaction of Dadan and all them, what if they were only freaked out because they didn’t know Sabo was even alive? That would definitely freak you out. I’d assume their reaction would be much different if that was the case but I thought I’d mention it here.
I don't think King used his hybrid form yet. Imagine seeing his hybrid form with two sets of wings. That'll be awesome
I just feel like Tashigi is Kuina, but she was picked up by the revolutionary army to be a undercover agent to be a fake marine, Hence why her pops said she wasn't going to be the strongest swordsman. she already had her role made for her, cause stairs, like how do stairs kill people but not falling like over the side of a building or slashed lol. It was just a lame reason to die. They also picked up Sabo as a bonus.
@@mayhulk7514 Hahaha I'd believe that since swords have temperaments now and the sword murdered her, best serial killer ever lol.
I don't think wado likes zoro because he was "destined" to get it with his presumed shimotsuki heritage, I think wado likes zoro because it was weilded by kuhina first and it sees that zoro is doing his best to honor kuhina's will, and wado is very inspired and honored by zoro respecting its previous weilder to that extent, I think wado is just glad zoro didn't forget about kuhina.
These two had amazing chemistry. Black guy in the US, German guy in Japan brought together by One Piece. This needs to be THE One Piece podcast.
Here's my theory:
If the theory of Shanks being narrator is true it makes sense that if Shanks and Luffy fight WG and win then Shanks will be the next king of the world because we know Luffy don't like ruling anything and Shanks is that guy who maintains the balance of good and evil..
Luffy good give that task to usopp
Dude is a boss for giving orders
Well dragon is more suited for that role tho even if that was remotely true
@@ibrahimsurti4922 or it could be a group of people. For example smoker, dragon, shanks etc.
Coby will become fleet admiral in the new and reformed marines once the world government is dismantled completely.
Yeah, I think King’s fire definitely regenerates him. That explains the sizzling wound from Lion Song so it’s not like Zoro isn’t hurting king he just not hurting him enough. Like when he went so far as to block tatsumaki but willingly took a point black stab. So I guess he’s not willing to take a wound if Zoro isn’t close by the explosion from that wound. he may be able to decide if wants to release the fire that’s regenerating the wound or allow it to finish regenerating him, depending on strategic advantage.
personally i don’t like this theory because that’s just another marco copy and paste. i would much rather king just be an absolute tank in his own way. so far all first commanders have been tanks in their own way like marco a regen freak, katakuri with future sight and a wannabe logia, and now king who is from a race of incredible feats with a df of incredible strength and maybe if king gets conquers coating too then that on top of that.
I’ve had this theory for awhile now, but the Lunarians were probably the slaves at Gods valley. They were once Gods who live at the top of the red line (the home of the gods) and then were sent down by the new gods into their “valley” hence its name. It’s both an insult and an explanation, and can also explain why King is still around as the CDs got to power ages ago and King is like 40 something I think. Can also tie into how he met Kaido, and why he’s the only one left cause there’s no way he’s the sole survivor unless it was a recent eradication or else it makes no sense as to how they were considered gods with the CDs.
Also what if they didn’t ride on dragons, but rode on Lunarians and they were just mistaken as dragon and that’s where the name “Celestial dragons” comes from (that last parts a stretch, but could make some sense so I had to throw it in there)
Honestly the way that I’m interpreting Zoro and his whole conquers haki situation is that we haven’t really seen Zoro be pushed to the edge besides Kaku and the Pacifista fights respectfully. So for him to let go of his limits and to strive for more really kicked the gear that he needed to reach that next level
I think if shanks being evil would be a cap out like in Toriko. Where it’s only a ploy to get luffy to his highest potential
Maybe Germa got their hands on Lunarian genes at some point, that would explain their toughness. I mean, Queen's sword broke into pieces, and Sanji's Diable Jambe could have some Lunarian stuff behind it
19:17 there’s a theory going around that Garp is Luffys Maternal grandfather (so his mom is Garps daughter) while Rocks is his paternal grandfather (making dragon Rocks son). More on this theory @grandlinereview
Can't be. They have all the same name. Monkey D. Garp Dragon and Luffy.
@@sayitguelmez if you watch the theory video @grandlinereview they go over this point in which 1. Dragon took luffys moms name a common Japanese practice when married if the women has a higher status and or more money 2. Garp adopted Dragon like he did with ace and they have a step sibling to lover’s relationship and this also follows the theme that the sins of the father are not the sins of the son. They’re might be other ways as well but I suggest watching the video for more clarity
@@sayitguelmez it would be the same as ace taking his moms name. Garp would realize that luffy and both dragon have no chance if they were rocks d dragon and rocks d luffy. So they inherited monkey d to be able to live without that burden.
As per my understanding, maybe Zoro was only told by Kozabura that he made a sword and named it the God of the underworld. He didn't specifically address Enma at that moment. So just realized that yeah once he told Zoro about this sword, so this is IT, Enma. He clarified that Yes it is Enma.
I don't think King is troll, well maybe a little, but I think why he says things like "Ahh a direct hit." or looks up in the air after being hit. I think he's actually enjoying it, like he's actually a masochist which is fitting for his suit and would make sense why he wouldn't want people to see his face if he was making weird creepy faces of pleasure every time he got hit.
There’s definitely some kink play going on lol, Queen called him a torture loving pervert. I’m sure we’ll be getting more backstory out of him soon
Back in the day I was a thery writer in narutobase, wrote quite s few theories, but I never try that with one piece, the fun is in the unknown. This is the best part about it
I'm just starting the video... But man, I felt a rush of emotions, from the hype that this was a collab video... To seeing that not only is it a collab video, but it's also going to be hour long video of the good stuff. I'm ecstatic to dig in.
My feelings exactly when I saw this! I was super happy for this collab and the content.
maybe part of the one piece was the gomu gomu no mi and what's written on the poneglyph is how to acess the hidden memories that are stuck in it, the fruit could have belonged to joyboy in the past and roger could have laughed so hard because he experienced all of joy boy's happiness in a few seconds
Just a disclaimer: I know most of you all form your opinions based on the early TCB scans translations but if you're truly One Piece fans, you would also read the official Viz translation and then form your opinions. The TCB team does a great job but they're still human and mistakes in translations do happen. For example, these are some of the differences verbatim that are slight but may affect the way people actually interpret the chapter and the way they theory craft later on:
1) "So you've also got kingly ambitions" (TCB) VS "So you intend to be a King, then?" (VIZ) -> Many people took the 'ALSO' in the former translation and started making theories on what it suggests (primarily King being a CoC user as well) but as you can see, the VIZ translation allows for none of that and all it does is show that King acknowledges Zoro's Conqueror ambitions.
2) "After all, I made promises to my captain... and my oldest friend" (TCB) VS "I've got a promise to keep to my captain... and my best friend" (VIZ) -> The use of "oldest friend" vs "best friend" imo don't affect the reader's understanding of this portion that much because if you have enough reading comprehension, you know that they both refer to Kuina BUT at the same time, "oldest friend" and "best friend" mean quite different things if you just take them at face value.
How long was the partnership between Kaido and Doflamingo going already cuz it's really nice how it's all cards, even to Doffy's crew! King, Queen, Jack, Doffy's Joker, Corazon and then Trebol being clubs I think and the flag guy being aces and Sugar being clovers? I'm not entirely sure which was which but like the entire deck is there essentially
Funny thing about destiny is that regardless of anything everyone has a definite future. It may or may not be known what it is. So whether or not it's 'written' somewhere, the straw hats are meant for greatness. But as mentioned in the video they have to work for their power. This in no way feels like Naruto being handed power from Sage of six paths because of destiny.
As for Luffy's fruit being special, I would be OK with it being uniquely special to do something in the end similar to how it was uniquely suited to fight Enel. But personally I would hate to see some insane power or broken awakening. The beauty to Luffy's fruit is it's actually quite simple and not over powered. He's strong because of himself not his fruit.
Imagine luffy gets knocked out and some weird old bearded dude thats floating tells him he is his son reborn and has to fight a god like being... why did they have to fuck up naruto like that i mean be fucking reasonable and not like here take this because you will be fighting my mom ...
@@ayke9288 for real! I actually loved Naruto at the beginning but the bs power ups really ruined it for me. 'Work harder than everyone else to be strong but then just get handed power' smh.
Enjoyed the chemistry between you two. Look forward to more of these.
Damn the monster Trio and Straw Hats are stacked. 🤩 Collective bounties are going to skyrocket unless CP0 covers up.
Thinking between Drake (being a marine) and Apoo (selling stories to Morgans) can give everyone the details
For the devil fruit discussion, to dive even further, I think there is a chance that the devil fruits are actually gods and someone made them to trap their souls.
Yea but then there would be a zipper god😂😂😂
@@randomguy3898 😂
love the longer vids
Do you have a 500 page peer reviewed paper for that statement sir?
@@juicyjfan 🤓
I like the idea of the devil fruit containing part of the soul of the previous user so that even if the fruit isnt that special in and of itself it matters how luffys uses it but it also has the soul aspect of it destiny and such
My theory is that the lunarians are basically the Pillar Men of OP, in the sense of: they are waaaay superior than every other race (in terms of strength, power, etc etc), they don't really age and they didn't reproduce as much because they don't age, making it "easier" to wipe them all.
King is 47 years old lol was stated in the vivre card databook
@@rgat1756 forgot about that. Still, he looks young
@@zannchristo what do u mean he looks young? we haven’t even seen his face lmao
@@kingmanga8575 Idk, his eyes makes me think of a cat, and every looks young. I have no idea why I feel like he looks young
SPOILER ALERT! (once again please do not look at this if you don’t want to be spoiled)
His face was revealed in the most recent chapter 1035 and he does look very young like Katakuri.
One thing I've always wanted to know about dragon is how he got the tribal tatoos on his face. I think it might be tied to why he is the most wanted man in OP or his strength or the poneglyph(inside the tatoos there are 3 square looking images which could mean he has the knowledge of 3 of the 4 poneglyphs - Just speculation). But it 1 thing is for sure, it not like Dragon is tryna make a fashion statement with it.
N/B - Great breakdown and great content
I believe that Rocks is Garp's brother-in-law meaning Dragon's mother is Rocks sister. Or on a farfetched idea is that Garp and Rocks are brothers and Rocks is Dragon's actual father but Garp adopted Dragon as a baby. Or way far out theory Dragon's mother was unknowingly pregnant when she met Garp and when Dragon was born Garp went after Rocks believing Rocks violated his wife
Love this video. Also happy to see any anime video where Bleach gets mentioned. Bleach always has a special place for me as the show I feel properly got me into anime/manga
ZORO REALLY BUILT DIFFERENT!
I have fallen just head over heals with one piece. Never really thought I would get into this show, used to be a critique before I even gave the series a chance, but earlier this year while I was laid off work, I binged the entire series and just caught up to wano arc. Wano is on a whole other level 🔥 🔥 🔥 the Sakuga is just plastered all over this wano arc
back in your review of the chapter where Queen suggests Sanji may have Lunarian DNA spliced into him to enable Diable Jambe I commented in speculation that Luffy's mother may be Lunarian too in terms of his ability to perform Red Hawk/Roc rather than some vulcanisation or inheritance of Ace's will. Dragon had the means of exploring obscure places such as a potential last refuge for any remaining Lunarians. It wouldn't be a strong coincidence of them being enslaved by those Dragon sought to overthrow. It could also explain too, Luffy's resilience rather than just owing to willpower/gomu gomu fruit.
I just saw in another comment that King is 47 - this can be entirely POSSIBLE that Luffy's mum is Lunarian! And Dragon is trying to get revenge for the Lunarian race? 🤯🤯
Zoro has got to be of a line of feudal lords. It’s in his name after all.
The heroic figure he is named after was secretly Don Diego de la Vega who was essentially a feudal lord of his time in 16th century California if memory serves me well.
It can’t be just the sword mastery the reason Oda named him after him, knowing his symbolism and foreshadowing tendencies.
Not to mention Zoro is Spanish for “fox” if I am not mistaken and he just happens to learn the Foxfire Style from Kinemon which may or may not play a role in his fight with King.
Kuina is definitely with dragon and the revolutionaries
Ryuma- blonde
Ushimaru- blue
Zoro- green it all adds up
Zoro is next Rayleigh ryuma
Calling it now. God Valley was the home of the Lunarians after they left the red line and Xebec was a Lunarian.
Absolutely no way
I think king killed his race
@@conradkorbol uchiha king?
I wonder if people think at least a bit before spoutting nonsense like this
@@conradkorbol that would be too savage I think oda will explain in king flashback what occur to his race
I know I wasn’t tripping when ulti was giving me conquerors vibes glad you saw it to
E.O.S Zoro definitely gonna be Yonko level MINIMUM
king hasn't even gone all out
@@whatsnext8447 yeah but we know zoro gon pull the W one way or another
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Zoro's like "After all... I'm a pirate hunter"
All I’m saying is , its time for zoro to open that eye!
I feel like Ocean Sovereignty/Conquest of the Sea was more of a wide “blast” of haki rather than an actual projectile. So when Zoro hopped in front he’s slowed the movement of it enough where Law can get them all out.
I don't think luffy was ever the underdog 😂
Yea on top of that luffy never pretend to be one in first place.
Once this Wano arc is over and the Strawhats move on to their next destination, I think Zoro will stay behind in Wano. This will help his character development to further understand his history, the history of Wano, the history of the swords and train to fully master his swordsmanship and Conquerers Haki. He'll eventually rejoin his team midway through the next arc when they really need him.
you know that sounds like not a bad idea, i really hope that happens, that would be cool!