Oda said in an interview to blame him for anything you dont like about the live action cause EVERYTHING went through him and he had the final say on everything
Every now and then live action Zoro says something incredibly dumb, he just delivers it with the same level of cool confidence as he does everything else.
I think what this version does nicely is show us a serious and edgy bounty hunter, that gets little cracks in the armor as he softens up and his more goofball attitude shines through. When he got lost on the way to the mansion from the well... that is literally in front of said mansion. The smiles in between. His entire persona was the lone wolf pirate killer, So I like the more serious approach with the potential of silly humor and jokes down the line.
@@pickedceasar1216Thing is that Mackenyu in interviews and the promo games videos they released really does shit/says things with that confidence that comes across as that silly. Like, when they played the game of misscomunication/broken phone, the only sentence important to say correctly was "One Piece is now streaming on Netflix" but it was Mackenyu who got to deliver the sentence outloud. He said with so much confident "Netflix is now streaming on Netflix" while striking a pose, only to then his castmates realize and tell him, which really took him by surprise and made him look so silly.
Zorro got lost after lost after being thrown in a well directly in front of the Mansion 🏘️😂.I did feel the same about live action zorro but his life head moments are a lot more suttle
@@zarinapena5846that video cracks me up. i didn’t even know he wasn’t doing that on purpose and to see his face morph from confidence to confusion to then realization and then the five of them laughing made it all the more hilarious lol
I will say they're def taking Zoro being an idiot slow but it's still there. One of the funniest "blink and you'll miss it" lines is when he says Kaya's mansion is "like a maze" while... walking down a long, straight hallway.
my one criticism on Zoro is especially pre-time skip was more fun. Zorro in the live action seems like the only direction he was given was "cool" which meant looking depressed all the time
The moment live action Garp threw the cannonball and Luffy balloon'd it back was the moment it was confirmed in my eyes this show loves it's source material. So great.
They say that Garp's increased presence strayed from the material, but I truly think that was Oda choosing to have Garp be more involved. He did say it was the perfect chance to redo how some of the East Blue played out, and to get perfectly fresh reactions from new audiences. I can't decide which Garp I like more.
I actually kinda liked Mihawk casually having a drink at a bar, it reinforces Zoro being a sword nerd, since while Nami clearly knows of Mihawk by name, she didn't recognise him on sight like Zoro did. You're absolutely entitled to your opinion on it though, one of the best things the live action has done for OP fans is give us a whole bunch of things to debate and discuss about what and how we would have done differently,
I think one of the main things that shows how well the live action works is that (with rare exceptions) everyone new to One Piece loves it and (again, with rare exceptions) every One Piece manga or anime fan watching it goes something along the lines of "yeah I didn't like these 3 specific things, but overall it works really well and it clearly 'gets' One Piece and also maybe these 3 other specific things were actually something that's better than in the original." The fact that the 3 specific things (good or bad) differ from person to person really just shows that people have different tastes. Also the worst I've heard anyone say about the live action is that it's mid and probably half of these were just trolls begging for attention.
I would have tried to keep Don Krieg & Gin close to how their involvement was in the manga. The attack on the Baratie was important for Sanji's development in wanting to go out & travel with Luffy. Same goes for Mihawk's fight. Sanji was originally there to see it, and seeing Zoro declare his resolve was also a part of Sanji's change of heart.
@@student76543very true. I watched the series with a group of friends, some of them huge fans of One Piece, some who dropped the anime/manga but were curious, and two of us (me being one of them) who had never consumed anything One Piece prior. All of us truly enjoyed it, and it even convinced me to finally start reading the manga.
I think it fits his character to just turn up so suddenly at the bar because he has a very quiet and understated personality. It also makes sense from a narrative perspective too; it's supposed to be very jarring to have such a powerful character suddenly show up as it makes Zoro seem all the more reckless yet resolved to challenge him.
as a netflix-only (but anime/manga-aware), i wrote the bar appearance off as "notorious, yet sneaky". I've since learned his boat is visible in the show's prologue, but is indeed little more than a dinghy. He reads as more assassin than commander of men
You could tell the actor was having a great fucking time stalking around with blade gloves. Then again you could say similar things about all the named characters in the series lol. I think enthusiasm was like the most important factor in hiring.
Honestly it makes me wonder how Oda didn't think to do that the first time around. That whole arc in the anime is fine but mostly forgettable and I know because until we got introduced to Kuro, under the guide of Khlahadore, I hadn't remembered him and I was like "Oh yeah, One Piece Lady Deathstrike". But this version was far more scary, charismatic, and dare I say, a more interesting character than the original.
Oda isn't typically one to have an indoor fight. They're almost always outside due to having more choreographic freedom. He did it only briefly for Arlong and Croco just for the symbolism, idk what was going on with Wapol, and then finally we had proper indoor fights in w7 and enies lobby.
As someone who went into OPLA blind and came out loving it, I actually liked Mihawk’s appearance at Baratie. The show established this badass pirate dude, with a big fuck-off sword that can cut boats in half. When Usopp was talking and the camera panned over to reveal Mihawk, I damn near shat myself
Him having such a nonchalant entrance gives that vibe that he could just should up anywhere, and you wouldn’t even notice. A big fearsome entrance would make him just another villain, which he clearly is not.
@@graceisNERD yup. In the OG, the fact that Mihawk bumped into Luffy by chance was to emphasize the fact that the sea was filled with extremely powerful entities. The way they portrayed this in the live action was really well executed
yeah I thought he was going to complain about how he seemingly teleported there, not his entrance. while I like the idea of connecting Mihawk with Gin more strongly, I think building him up to be so strong in front of Luffy or Zoro would have made their resolution for Zoro to fight him seem less like ignorance and more like foolishness. as much as I love the original, and I do kind of like the fact that Zoro is suicidally brave, I think it makes sense to at least make it believable that he thinks he could win
I love Mihawk's intro in the Baratie too. It was clearly suppose to play into the whole "dun dun dun" shock value entrance where you weren't suspecting this casual person was this powerful character who already arrived on scene.
I think they might just be slow-rolling Zoro's idiocy to be fair, since he DID get lost in Syrup Village going from the well he was dumped in back to Kaya's mansion... when the well is on the mansion grounds so he had to go the complete wrong way. It's not completely gone, but it's just not as prominent.
There's honestly a few moments where he's an outright fool, it's just portrayed so subtly. Another moment is when he thought there was a toilet in the ship... When there wasn't. So I really don't get the complaint of Roronoa Zoro, other than there being a groundedness to the character. Which is consistent with the rest of the cast.
@@mcihay246 He also gave Helmeppo his infamous haircut and had a big goofy grin on his face when he admitted it. Honestly, I think it is the fact that all the characters are bit more grounded to fit into the live action media better is why this version of Zoro comes across as less of an idiot/goof. If I recall correctly, even his sense of direction got worse as time went on (or at least by the time Alabasta hit) since I don't even remember him really getting lost before then. His delay in fighting the Black Cat pirates in the manga was even because of Nami using him to escape the oil trap they'd set rather than him getting lost. So slow-rolling his idiocy/goofiness is likely what they are going with for this.
I think as time goes by we'll see more of Zoro's idiocy. Like swimming naked in Drum island etc. As well as much more open and cheerful Nami in Season 2.
My favorite even more subtle lost Zoro moments in the Live action are the fact that he calleds the halls of the mansion a maze and he can’t find his way to the kitchen without luffy at night, and the fact that he is even on Sixis island when we meet him, cause that one is even more subtle if you arent aware of the fact that Sixis is supposedly abandoned with nothing on it and Zoro paid a ship to ferry him there
i think people also forget that zoro wasn't that goofy of a character until they actually entered the grand line. east blue zoro is very much a serious character with a few goofy moments, he's not "can't find his way down a straight hallway" zoro until water 7.
In a letter, Tolkien stated that the most crucial requirement of a successful adaptation is that it adheres to the “spirit of the original”. Big changes will have to be made, but they must preserve the atmosphere, themes/messages, metaphysics, etc. Oneflix Netpiece basically succeeded in this, and this is certainly thanks to Oda’s deep involvement (and previous experience with the anime adaptation), and the show runners’ authentic and sincere love/respect for the work
oh bullshit. Oda doesn't give a flying fuck about this show. He got paid, thats it. He didn't do a damn thing in regards to this show, you're cappin so hard.
I always find it funny when people say that actors in live-action adaptations just look like cosplayers as if that's somehow supposed to be a bad thing, even though the entire point of cosplay is to make yourself look like the character. It's like ordering a meal at a restaurant and being upset that they gave you Ravioli instead of pasta 😂
@@side-room-21there's a movie make-up react lady who reacts to OPLA and she addresses this very thing. I don't remember her name, but I saw the video on youtube yesterday
This is one of the major unfortunate side effects of the marvel effect. Disney spending hundreds of millions on a 2 hour show. Everyone's expectations on what a production should be are so sky high that no-one can reasonably achieve them. All of one piece LA is cheaper than just about every marvel movie since Avengers 1, and that budget is stretched thin over around 8 hours of content. And with the wacky nature and design of the characters, the changes in clothes to make the characters real, the complexity of the physical scenes and the sheer number of actors, yeah, budget gets cut somewhere. The few cases of CGI in the series was incredibly expensive. There are scenes where you can clearly tell they just ran out of budget.
@@TheOriginal_Unaleska not all cosplays look cheap. Depends on the budget, materials, and skill level of the costume designer. I'm not aware of the budget of One Piece, but I still think their costumes look good.
@@side-room-21Doesn’t hair dye destroy your hair? You shouldn’t have to go full method for a role. It’s not like theatre actors do that, in fact they scoff at it.
Regarding Mihawk's presence in the Baratie's bar, my initial reaction was similar to yours. What changed my viewpoint is the realization that the East Blue is the most peaceful sea. The reason a pirate like Krieg or Arlong can aim for its hegemony and people like Axe-Hand Morgan and Nezumi go (mostly) unpunished for their corruption is because this place is an afterthought nobody cares about. The only person on Baratie with the wider worldview to allow him to be aware of the big movers and shakers and how scary they are is Zeff, and he was clearly not a part of that scene. All other people? Naah. Would you recognise Emily Rudd if she was in your rural stores queue without any makeup? Hell no; at best you'd be like 'they remind me of someone'. For ordinary people in the East Blue, the big movers and shakers won't be in their ocean, and when they are, they'll be accompanied by crews or even huge fleets with everybody already running for dear life. Mihawk, though? Eccentric and recognisable as he may be to us, to others he's at best a fanboy who dresses alike. With characters like Bartolomeo, Bon Clay or even a certain group of lookalikes, there are clearly plenty of reasons for lookalikes to exist.
EXACTLY THIS. The "theme" of Mihawk's entrance in the original was that these monsters can appear anywhere in the world at a whim, sure there are exception, Big Mom or Kaidou wouldnt be in East Blue but there are a "thematic" reason for that too. Mihawk is at the same time pompous and eccentric but surprisingly "frugal" in his lifestyle, he likes to travel, he doesnt pay mind to anything or anyone that doesnt interests him, he will stroll down in a rural little bar with the same easy he can obliterate a entire fleet by his lonesome. I understand the desire for some omph in that bar scene, but its simplistic effect conveys exactly what the original did at another point of view... that this world is inhabited by entities that far surpass what you can imagine in power, but some of them are just cruising at their own pace... i mean... Shanks is exactly that too, he even has such leverage with the Gorousei to ask for a meeting because they know he is pretty shill if they don't provoke him first and that he can be argued with, most of his appearances in the manga he is chilling having fun with his crew.
Remember shanks appearance in East blue never cause any scene... No one knows he even went there except a few... syrup village had no idea how a big deal ussop's father was ...just a nameless pirate
The thing I love about people talking about Hachi's absence is that they all ask what is the live action going to do at Sabaody. Mate. If the live action ever makes it to Sabaody, that is such an incomprehensible W that I don't even care anymore. The choice was between adding a super expensive octopus to justify events for season 10 vs making sure that the final act of season 1 looks clean and polished.
I think people are sad about Hachi being omitted also because Hachi has potential for a great character arc, albeit one that even the source material doesn't do full justice to. Him encountering Nami again forces him to grapple with all the terrible things he was complicit in. Also, he serves as Zoro's opponent at Arlong Park for a fun fight and comic relief. But then they downplayed Sanji's fight with Kuroobi too, so at least it's balanced.
Honestly speaking, it's not like Hachi was THAT important in his introduction anyways. They can always just explain it away like "oh he was just off doing a task for Arlong when everything fully went down." Or even just say he was there and just have it so no one remembers him cause he was inconsequential in stopping Zorro and Sanji's rampage.
he was just important in the funniest joke of the arc, which i think would be cut anyway for time and for the vibes, it easy to have multiple episodes of Hachi helping zoro without realizing he was an enemy and still being nice after that when the arc takes multiple chapters in the manga, because you can reserve the last chapters for the serious stuff, not as easy to do that in 2 episodes
I mean realistically, Hachi is ;not integral to the story. He can be replaced by any on the Arlong Pirates. Kuroobi had decent screen time so theyre probably just going to use him to substitute Hachi and it will make zero difference while saving hundreds of thousands in CGI
As a big Zoro fan for more than 15 years i can say with certainty that I LOVE Mackenyu’s take on the character. I could use a little more of himbo energy but I think he nailed the overall look and he feels like Zoro!
honestly, the deadpan seriousness as zoro says dumb or funny gets me everytime both in the live action and in the anime. that scene in the live action where zoro is talking about what luffy had told him when he was tied up on the cross at the marine base and luffy repeats everything zoro said vertbatim and zoro just drops his head as a response had me cackling
I think substituting the Koby and Helmeppo cover stories with their expanded material in East Blue can work if they avoid showing up again until post Enies Lobby. Like, what they did here didn't 'ruin' them in any way. They're just played differently.
Maybe we can see them for a single episode in season 2 with Garp deciding to put them in a training academy, then leave them be until they return in Season 4 or 5
@@rhyestripes6059 I think revealing Garp now is a net positive. He's played a big enough role that it's still shocking to people, but it leaves out the reveal of Luffy's dad. Though having the reveals double-dropped was wildly exciting at the time, I think having them be separate reveals has its on benefits. I also think it just helps people attach to the story more early on. I think it helps people realize earlier on that One Piece is a story with twists and turns and characters and worldbuilding that can all be theorized about and won't always be predictable (especially helpful after two episodes where the villains were very easy to detect and their schemes easy to see through).
I actually like the bar scene myself. It fits as largely no one really knows him by look, and he's far from the most colorful character they've seen, so there is little reason for anyone to make a big todo about his appearance. He himself also has little reason to make a grand entrance, not generally doing so, being on assignment, and likely knowing the restaurant is a good location to at learn some info so making a scene would be counter productive. And lastly, I've always been a sucker for the 'that unassuming guy at the bar can kick all your asses' trope which this plays into a bit.
I think Zoro was still pretty accurate, just more subtle on the dumbass-ness and humour. Like, he thinks he's smart and cool, but actually it's mostly just a façade and he gets away with it, cause lots of ppl find him scary. I think we will stee more shenanigans with Luffy as we go along in season 2. Also, he did get lost a couple of times, lol.
@@river3495yah i actually liked him more like this.. he’s new on the whole crew things so naturally he’ll try to act super scary super cool. But when the crew goes along with each other everyday, they start to catch that Zoro isn’t that much different in spirit.
The one scene that really sold me was the closing shot, because the strawhats genuinely felt like the crew we've come to love. This series is going to be great
god imagine the kaido fight scene i woudl imagine 80% of the budget went to making sure it's a good fight scene and the rest is making sure the actor is playing the character right
I feel like Inaki is constrained by the direction and the fact that this is live action. Because in real life, he's actually a LOT more animated and Luffy-like than what ended up on the final version of the series.
he’s the most luffiest a person has ever luffy-ed in real life. he just embodies that kooky and zany quality luffy has and the thing is he isn’t even pretending or exaggerating it, it’s just him and it’s innate. there was a video of him as a child doing the rounds on twitter around august, and it’s really like when luffy was a kid. iñaki barely changed, he only got older, and he was still the same as he was as a kid lol
I totally disagree about Mihawk at the bar, I think it works better the way it is. You have to remember they're making this show for a general audience who doesn't know that Mihawk fights Zoro at Baratie, at this stage he's just a terrifyingly powerful pirate that we know our characters wouldn't be any match for. Suddenly in the middle of what had been a pretty relaxed, fun scene with some drama on the backburner, the guy that we just watched cut a ship in half (but just long enough ago to have half-forgotten that he's coming) suddenly pops in right next to Usopp. If there'd been a scene right beforehand where he slowly drifts up to Baratie, that would have no impact.
Steven Spielberg earned his name with that phenomenon. Both of his first movies- Duel and Jaws- were entirely devoted to this idea. Of a massive, unstoppable threat that can seemingly disappear and reappear at will because of how well they blend into their environment.
It’s safe to say that they succeeded in bringing new people in. Take it from someone who wrote the series off, decided to try the LA, and now because of it is currently on episode 96
Very real. I fully refused to watch the series for so long because I fully didn't believed the 1000 episodes were worth all the time for a story that would only get "good" after the however many hundread arcs. I watched the live action on a whim and fell in love with it, nearing the end of the Arabasta arc now and it's so silly and enjoyable, love this show.
Yes! I've seen so many RUclipsrs watch the live action and then start reacting to the anime. I was really into OP when I was about 22, but I fell out of it (nasty ex was really into it so it started to bring up bad memories etc) and the live action roped me right back in and now I'm up to date on the manga lol
not just must have been, they’ve always been. even their camera director is a big fan along with her sons (they also went to south africa when they were scouting locations!) and said she used to read the manga to them as bedtime stories when her sons were younger and watched the anime with them 🥹 incredibly based mom and i love the fact that one piece helped her create wonderful memories with her children.
Personally, I'd say that live action Zoro still manages to come off as a lunkhead, but a lunkhead who carries himself really well. But I can see where you're coming from.
I do understand your point about Mihawk's entrance, but at the same time, the slow reveal of the person Usopp's been spinning bullshit to being Mihawk was really hilarious.
Honestly, almost any member of Arlong's crew except for Arlong himself can play the role that Hachi does in Sabaody and Fishman Island, it's just that Hachi is the most likable and memorable member of Arlong's crew in the manga and anime
Well you could also just introduce Hachi then and say that he left Arlong early because he disagreed with him. Have Nami recognize him and still be pissed.
@@SolitaryLarkin this la version the connection will entirely lose if its not the one appears in screen that attempt to redeem the past of arlong park however they could introduced them both but highlighted hachi as more mild tempered one (in flashback for sake of relatablility) even then the slave auction scene will weakened if its hachi whos (let say left arlong park early off screen) whos getting shot since well hes been morally correct from before what put his morale anchored heavily enough to put his body for take the bullet for the strawhats
@@SolitaryLark it’d work fine but it’d work better if they just used one of the other fishman pirates, especially since as I said Hachi will still be way more costly than a normal character
I think some of the changes were made like "yeah this will really fuck us up when we reach the 12th season. This is netflix, we are lucky if we reach the 4th season, so lets go with it"
I really liked Zoro. He's emotional enough that he doesn't feel like a canvas covered in edge, but if he as this knuckleheaded brute like he seems to be in the anime, I probably would've hated him. Different strokes for different folks and all. I just personally really liked the Zoro we got.
One thing that really comes across with this adaption is how everyone working on it is passionate about the source material. There is so much love and care put into every single choice and detail for this series. I am so happy it was a success and cannot wait for more to come.
Mihawk in the source material is like the unique enemies in Xenoblade games. You’ll be in an area filled with lvl 10 enemies when suddenly a giant, lvl 86 gorilla named “Unperturbed Gregory” shows up out of nowhere and turns your bones to dust.
Zoro being kinda the edgelord whose serious 99% of the time could be them trying to make thing little bit realistic cause this dude used to kill pirates for berries. *KILL PIRATES* So to make this guy who is called Demon pirate hunter act goofie with the crew from the get go could maybe give the audience a whiplash. I mean his introduction scene had him cut Mr.7 cut in half. So I can understand him acting too cool for school-ish. But imo that makes his fun scenes and his smiles more impactful. But that could be the Zoro simp in me talking. But they could potray his older brother vibe in the future. I mean they are bring Chopper so they have to bring out the older brotherish vibe he excludes when he's around Chopper.
When I watched that execution scene and realised that they actually put so many people in the audience I had to go back and watch it again because I wanted to savour it. It was so exciting. Like, Mihawks little coffin boat in the harbour??
Garp was my favourite change and really helped the story have momentum. Also great for exposition. It also doesn’t hurt that the actor for Garp was their best actor, too.
I believe that the focus on Garp this early on, including his motivation to test Luffy's resolve, will have a huge payoff if they ever get to Marineford. I just hope that they handled the scene Garp was crying as he told Ace "why didn't you became a marine like I told you to?" properly. It's also a dynamic that really lead to some interesting things we never have the chance in the main series like more Coby and Helmeppo interactions as well as Garp and Zeff talking to each that is just great to have. It's the kind of original content that feel fresh even to old time fans, and that's not possible without the Garp change.
51:54 “Don’t you think him nonchalantly appearing in the bar undercuts that a bit?” No, actually. I’m sure others have already said this, but I actually quite enjoyed his entrance. I agree with what you said about the whole Garp hiring him thing, but when it comes to the entrance in the Netflix show, I think it serves a similar purpose to how Mihawk just… appeared in canon. He can just show up places, no one the wiser that there’s a wolf in their midst. Having him pop up like that and seeing Usopp just. Casually talking to him, completely unaware of the danger he’s in, was genuinely tense and compelling. It’s a different kind of entrance, sure, but I’d still argue that it’s a good one that serves a similar purpose to the original source material.
The live action adaptation was my first experience with One Piece, and I fuckin' LOVED IT! It was just a damn entertaining show, and it got me to start working my way through the anime. So yeah; mission accomplished, Netflix. Now don't fuck up Avatar, or we will have WORDS!
Panning over to Mihawk just being there casually after showing his introduction was the better choice. No need to go over dramatic with it, it gives the aduience an oh shit moment when they notice the hat and the scene the vibe that Usopp is just sitting there unknowingly having a conversation with Jason Voorhees.
the thing about Mihawk "just being there" and not having this huge entrance with Gin explaining and all (which i find a neat idea, thinking about it) lets my Headcanon just say "hey it's one piece, unexpected sh-- can happen everywhere, anytime"
something i find interesting about the exclusion of Jango in the series is that one of those wanted posters that shows characters who show up a lot later in the series actually includes a wanted poster of Jango, which means he still exists in the live action version.
One thing that i really love is the german dub, which i watched! They got all of the major voice actors and a lot of the side characters from the Anime dub aswell, and while you can tell they are the same people, they completly voice their characters different in this adaptation compared to the anime. It truly felt like a love letter and made me appreciate the adptation as a whole so much more!
@@PsoewishNot really. I grew up with the German TV dub and it just gives me a big nostalgia kick. That's why I was absolutely sold on it soon as I saw the German trailer. Besides it's a really good adaptation overall
My biggest concern, now after season 1, is how they can produce all those arcs into seasons, without aging of the cast. Season 2 needs 2 years to be made, soo you can make your own estimate how long this will go if they try to do the whole story. They kept the spirit of One Piece in this series for sure, but for me, it really kicks in after you spent some time with the crew and their adventures
All they have to do is let the characters grow up at a natural pace instead of the time skip, and presto! Problem solved. Anyway the cast is pretty young, and even if they got wrinkles or something, they'll look young with a bit of makeup for a long time yet. As far as the show overall, well, the manga is still being written, so either the show will go on so long they'll eventually change out the cast like the Doctor Who series, or jump to the end if Oda ever ends it hehe. Also for a big budget show their hustle seems to be good. The writer's strike is delaying season 2 but potentially it could be only 12 months between seasons. I think of shows like this more like movies anyway...the budget, the quality, the sets, are movie level, and movies used to come out so slowly, and those were only an hour and a half haha. We get 8 hours of movie-quality cinema each time. It's pretty cool when you think about!
To be fair to live action Zoro, there is still some idiot in there, it’s just being a bit more subtle about it. The most obvious part is when he got lost during the Kuro arc
It's great that they've infused the East Blue Saga with stuff only hindsight can give you. Eg the Arlong Park looking like a carnival, must be a nod to the Shabaody Park, that all young Fishmen want to visit but no one can. As for Zoro, my issue is that he feels more like post timeskip Zoro. East Blue Zoro is still kind of a kid, whereas post timeskip he's been forced to grow up.
Don't you feel like that change happens even earlier? I've been reading and rereading for a while and the thing that struck me the most in recent rereads is precisely how much more serious Zoro gets after losing to Mihawk, his whole coolness and confidence kind of take a backseat after being shown the gap of strengths. Although, that is pushed to the brink post timeskip, like him calling out Luffy at Punk Hazard
if they stay consistent in how much they'll adapt each season, season 2 could be alabasta, s3 is skypea, s4 is water 7 and enies lobby, s5 is amazon lily all the way to marineford, s6 fishman island and punk hazard, s7 dressrosa, s8 wano and s9 and 10 would be the grand finale with the final war that still hasnt concluded in the manga
@@arnowisp6244 I mean, the goldfish is season 2 material, so like... the fact that they included it as a story in Syrup Village live action tells me they plan to uphold it...
In all fairness, they can still totally introduce Hachi later on once it becomes necessary, and just have Nami explain that he was one of the Arlong pirates then. It does lose a bit of impact that way, but it'd still work.
Me and my brother the day it came out sat down and binged it all that night. We’re both huge one piece fans, so not only did it feel amazing to see how good the actual series was, be able to watch it all in one go, the live action also gave me one of the best memories I will ever have with my brother and that’s something that I can’t ever forget about this live action.
As someone who only watched live action I enjoyed Koby and Garp's marine storyline. Aside from the points made in the video, it was a great way to integrate exposition. Showing marines through Koby's eyes allowed to convey a lot of information about the One Piece's world without resorting to excessive info dumps. Instead of people telling other people about marines and who they are, we get to actually see what marines are like. And by extension what that world at large is like. In other words, the series committed to "show, don't tell" principle. It helped me to follow the story without a need to process too much verbal information and without a need to pause the series to clarify things. It did a good job.
I disagree on the Zoro point has somebody who loves Zoros character in both iterations. For me while I enjoy the aloof aspect of his character a good bit and the getting lost bit can be pretty damn funny, I kinda feel like the show goes overboard with it way to often. Actually the live action Zoro is pretty spot on to how Zoro was written back then. During the east blue there wasn’t much about Zoro being stupid, sure plenty of goofy moments but those mostly came from his self confidence mixed with occasional light hearted fun like in Little Garden for example just a little bit longer into the story. Around Water 7 onword though Zoro’s dumb jokes were cranked up to 11 and for me personally has a critique to the source material I always thought they went way over bored with it. It honestly takes away from the charm and just makes him a tad annoying at times for me. So with that in mind I loved how they did Zoro in this, he wasn’t just completely brain dead execpt for fighting, we got to see him actually have some critical thought and have a lot of cool moments other then just fighting, which I don’t know if I can say for modern day Zoro who will tend to be a complete meathead.
That's a good point! I love what a badass doofus Zoro is and the mix is the important part. Too much doofus is just as frustrating as too much badass. I think the ratio is a little off in live action but they're laying the groundwork and I think the silliness will get more prominent while still being more grounded because of the new medium.
this take is very stange but to each their own i guess, zoro gets just as many if not more badass moments in the manga as he does goofy moments. The idea that zoros character in the manga is played for a laugh too often is a strange take that just isnt really true. You also say zoro is played for laughs too much but then also you say he is only used as a brainless fighter? Im not sure I understand ur critique of zoro's character in the manga as your reasoning for that seems contradictory. Not tryna argue or be toxic im just a bit confused and i enjoy media analysis
Arlong park having carnival games makes so much sense lore wise as well because in cannon a lot of fishman kids sneak up to sabaody to ride the theme park rides
In regards to your complaints about Zoro, I’d say that Mackenyu’s Zoro is still a fucking dumbass, but it’s way more subtle. There are multiple “getting lost” jokes, but only if you’re paying attention to how the fuck Zoro wound up somewhere. He thinks there’s a fucking toilet in a dingy, not “oh, the ship is sinking”. And him not being able to get into the booth at Baratie because of his swords is some great physical comedy.
8:39 Now that the ATLA LA was dropped, I can confidently say it wasn't low expectations, because my expectations were the lowest a fan could possibly have, and they still utterly failed to meet any of them.
Even one more amazing thing about this show is that in the German dub of the live action the voice actors of the Anime also voice their characters (mostly). It is so incredibly amazing as a german watcher honestly
I love Koby being more relevant in the Live Action, it sets up an even more complex character arc for him. East Blue shaped his mind, Grand Line will shape his body, and New World will shape his spirit. And Garp being included is really good too, it pushes the plot forward, the crew legitimately *can't* stay in one place for too long. Not to mention his stand off against Luffy will be a perfect parallel in Marineford, i can already imagine the exact same scenario playing out, maybe even with the scenes overlapping, and Garp letting himself get punched this time. Butler Merry really has more sheep-like features in the liveaction, a very interesting choice, i wonder if he is a mink or at least half-mink here. Shame he died tho, i feel like he could have been *the* one fake-out death that could have been kept, but simply because he could have elevated the symbolism in the scene with Zoro climbing out of the well, carrying a half-dead man with him would fit perfectly with the weight of carrying Kuina's dream, and with the sheep/lamb imagery on top of it? It would have made the scene perfect, but i'm a sucker for that kinda shit so that's probably just me. Hachi can still be included as a "new" character alongside Camie, yeah it's not gonna be as impactful as the manga but he's too narratively important to be completely axed. Don Krieg's dead Yamcha pose still cracks me up every time i see it.
Her and Iman Vellani who was a ms marvel cosplayer before getting cast to play her in the MCU and now gets to help write her comics. Both get a heartfelt Good for Her!
I wish they did better with emphasising Luffy destroying Nami's room at Arlong Park. They establish it well in the opening of the fight, but when Luffy goes to destroy it, it's played off as him intentionally foiling Arlong's plans which... No? Luffy is destroying Nami's room, because it's the thing trapping Nami in Arlong Park. It's the symbol of her turmoil and trauma, so it's powerful when Luffy starts throwing desks and chairs out the windows, and where the bystanders just see a chair, Luffy and Nami connect on an emotional level. This is easily the biggest miss of the whole live-action to me, bar none. I was pleasantly surprised at the authenticity of the rest of Arlong Park, but that detail is one of the first beautifully complex moments of One Piece to me. I felt kinda similar about the other crewmate arc resolutions too--Sanji doesn't cry like a bitch, Usopp doesn't have to say goodbye to his play pretend pirate crew, we don't get to see kid Zoro training through the pain of losing his friend. I liked the adaptation a lot, but I like it like I like the Scott Pilgrim movie--a fun, well executed, creatively engaging project that also misses some of the keyest details. Good, even great popcorn fun, but missing out on the deep roots of some of the storylines.
This was basically my thoughts on it. It's very well-done, and I loved basically every second of it, but it's just missing the things that really elevate One Piece in my mind to the highest level of literature
Oh, I haven't read the Manga, so this is an interesting aspect. The Nami one definitely feels like a big change. I feel like the other points are a little less important than that one. Like they're changes that are just for the time and medium, but I would have liked them to keep the Nami and Luffy one
@@jadetrolland8095 Don't let gametheus' wording taint your perception of Sanji and Usop's moment in the og one piece (if you haven't read or watched it by now lol). Sanji cries because Zeff finally expresses in a direct manner that he loves Sanji like a son by waving him off and supporting his dream of the all blue. As for Usop, his band of pretend pirates were basically his family ever since his mother died. How the villagers reacted when he stopped shouting for pirates also added to the emotional weight of that arc even tho it was a bit lackluster compared to the rest.
I think hacchi missing from the story can actually spare them some time in future arcs by not redeeming him and instead just have him as a friendly fishman that the crew befriends (and also to show how Nami's bad experiences aren't translated into racism) It's definitely unfortunate to take some of his character away, but in terms of adaptability, it might actually help in the future (they can either remove him entirely or just include him if they need to fill screentime in the story) I just don't think he's entirely written off of the story yet and can still show up (call it copium, if you will lol)
Nami's past wasn't just about poverty but also racism. Arlong targeted Cocoyashi because they were weak humans. He wanted revenge for Fisher Tiger and was consumed by hatred towards all humans. And, without Hachi's apology & his connection to the Sun Pirates, Jinbe, and Camie, the Sabody and Fishman Island arcs would come across as hollow. We wouldn't even get the famous scene of Luffy punching the Celestial Dragon. Without Hachi & Camie, Nami might have never forgave Jinbe for release Arlong into the East Blue.
@@kingace6186nah, hacchi can still be a normal fishman that befriends the crew and we still have most of the things you mentioned As I said in my original comment: It will have a weaker effect on those moments, but nothing that can't be solved with some changes like the ones they already did in the show
@@kingace6186 This can be changed to Hachi being a former Arlong crew member who was kicked out or fled after trying to stop Arlong and failing, later the crew might stop at his food store and hear about Nami's story then Hachi can apologize to her for not being able to stop Arlong
Well, we do know that Jango does exist in the live-action verse from the wall of Wanted posters. And although we don't see him physically, this could be implied that the hypnosis still happened.
I hadn't thought much about the Zoro thing; I think it's as emblematic of the run time issue as we got with Usopp, where a lot of really really good Usopp moments either didn't get to happen or happened in a non-satisfactory way, that same issue nudges into Zoro's room to breathe and be a dummy. I think the next season as we get more of the adventure in, they might be able to remedy it
I personally liked Mihawk just being there at the bar. It's a big surprise, that he is already there, and a nice way to tell, that even tho he is the strongest swordsmen, he does like to just chill around like any normal person.
Masterful video, though a bit surprised you didn't comment on the score of the show, its bloody great. Also yeah I also thought the omission of Hachi was unfortunate as his inclusion is pretty damn important later on in the story, who knows maybe they can introduce him in Loguetown or something and mention he was a part of Arlongs crew or something?
Even though I didn't watch much of One Piece beyond clips or whenever it came on Toonami, I still understood that an adaptation would be a herculean task. And despite any personal misgivings about the series, I thoroughly enjoyed the live action start to finish. The whole cast has such an infectious energy, and the very clear love, blood, sweat, and tears that went into making the props, sets, and practical effects is ever present throughout. Even when I saw the first trailers, I went "holy shit... there's love in there!"
I think one of the reasons the look and feel worked so well is that when you look at it.. One Piece is a dark world. Shit's hitting the fan all of the time, terrible things have happened in the past and continue to. It's not a happy go lucky world, it's not a world full of hope. The magic of One Piece is that, despite all of this, the characters have the strength to shine and push through all of this regardless, almost as a big "fuck you" to everything that happened to their world.
Honestly I feel like this is where opla failed. They didn't have enough of the emotional impact scenes to set the tone of how this world works. The straw hats are icons BECAUSE one piece so clearly establishes the rules of this cruel world and then throws the straw hats against it. I don't think opla did enough establishing.
For me what most bugs me is the lack of silly. The light-hearted moments were a big part of what made the serious ones hit hard, and although the live action has a few, it's much tamer and fewer. I'm trying to waych it on its own merit but it's hard not missing that
I think what they're gonna do for Jango is just skip to him basically working for the marines by way of using Morgan to get in. As for Hachi they could have it something like he left the Arlong crew midway instead of after it disolves
They can even have Hachi as a current member of the Sun Pirates instead of a former one. Obviously it's not ideal but it won't change his character much.
He also could’ve been away from Arling Park druring the incident? Only finding out later the full ramifications of his decisions? I’m just spitballing here.
I really love how in-depth this review is! great points, some I may not agree with (like Mihawk in Baratie) but I know you and many others may align and are entitled to those opinions! I wish you also reviewed the OPLA soundtrack and how that added to the story line. IMO the background Music for the anime is iconic in setting up a badass scene or preparing you for a major plot point, and I feel the rush in this the OPLA music similarly. Would love to know some in depth thoughts from OP fans and those that are well-versed in music
Damn I still remembered watching the 4Kids dub thinking it was kinda of cool, getting the Grand Battle games on GC, seeing Nico Robin giving my child self funny feelings and hoping she’d join the crew, what a time. Well now I love it, watch it mostly subbed and still have the same feelings for Robin. Although not gonna lie I would’ve preferred if the Kept Guy’s Voice for Zoro.
I had a few major gripes but my absolute #1 was that they butchered Shanks fighting that mountain bandit. The scene where he tells him "this isnt a game" as Lucky Roo shoots the other bandit in the head is one of the most iconic scenes in the whole series imo and sets the tone that although this is a wacky world, it is also a dark, cruel, and unfair one.
The Netflix adaptation decided to show that with Zorro's fight with Mr Seven. In live action, shooting someone in the head doesn't have the same impact when you can't drain the color from the world for a moment or have the background turn black. But seeing a man bisected diagonally certainly does get the same point across. As an added bonus, it helps preserve Luffy's innocent experience with the Red Head Pirates. We don't get to see Shanks and his crew flex their muscles this early, because it's not necessary. That gets conveyed instead at the END of the season, when Mihawk comes to deliver Luffy's first Wanted poster, and it hits the viewer like a ton of bricks that Shanks is an EQUAL to Mihawk- *EVEN WITH AN ARM MISSING.* It gives us a WAY better sense that the sea serpent got INCREDIBLY lucky when it took Shank's arm.
I mean, Jango not being in the LA doesn't mean he didn't exist. I could actually see them introducing Hina in season 2 and briefly showing Jango's backstory where he hypnotizes Morgan and the Kurow imposter, which would provide a nice throwback to season 1 events. Does it really matter if Jango joins the Marines before or after Syrup Village, if he wasn't there to begin with?
It's very easy to miss, but Jango does actually have a wanted poster in Shells Town so we know he exists. And since the sibling duo did way more actual fighting than him, I can see why they were kept and he was absent for Syrup Village.
25:58 Zoro does still have his dumb moments in the series. The major one is him being directionally challenged. After he got out of the well, he got lost going to Kaya’s mansion even though it wasn’t that far. There was also him not knowing which direction was left and right. He has his dumb moments, but they’re toned down for the live action.
24:02 "Fatigued baby sister of the family" 🤣🤣🤣 Gosh! I love your video! I was exactly the same when they announced the live action and when they released the trailer, but after watching one episode after another I fell face first with hearts in my eyes 😆 OPLV is a version of it's own but still true to Oda's One Piece 👌
Besides the same issue I had with Zoro's portrayal here, I think the other biggest issues In had with the Live Action is the Fishman Racism being introduced so early. I personally liked how we saw the Arlong Crew as just a group of nearly cartoonishly greedy and evil racists early on, and it's kinda left at that until later. Which leads us to believe at this point that that's all they were, and that it's a trait that could be shared by all Fishmen. Only for us to reach Sabaody and later Fishman Island, and we learn that their racism was born of the racism that was inflicted on them, flipping the entire issue on it's head.
ok i think i have to disagree with you a bit about mackenyu's zoro. It is true that he's playing the character a lot edgier and a lot more composed than the manga version but it has a vibe of delusional confidence that I think fits the character really well. He always projects like he's in complete control of a situation and knows exactly what he's doing even when it's obvious he's clueless or in way over his head. Stuff like him getting mad about letting buggy go without collecting the bounty only for luffy to point out that he's a wanted man who can't go near the marines anyway and mackenyu just says with a straight face "oh yeah, I hadn't thought of that."
I was blown away with the set designs and loved this show so much. Can’t wait for season 2, also my son is 27 and he has watch all the shows and manga, even he couldn’t believe how amazing it was.
I like the passage of time, I know that sounds weird but the idea that dressrosa happened over the course of 1 day always bugged the absolute shit out of me, because i hated this idea that you can topple a monarch whos been entrenched for years and kick them out within 1 day, If they somehow make it to Dressrosa I can see entire scenes taking place at night to make it feel like this is a weeks-long journey to beat Doffy , The baratie scenes being at night made me love the live action because it felt real
The best thing about this show is that it brought in a lot of new fans. A friend of mine was always intimidated by the length of One Piece but the feeling of the show was so good that they decided to pick up the manga right where the show left off.
Everything you've said in this is pretty much me, I didn't believe this was going to be anywhere near what it was and I was going to ignore it, then I heard they were doing all the way up to Arlong Park and I said to myself "if they don't get that scene right, I will flip a table." and started watching. End of episode 1 I was 70% sure it would be fine, then episode 7 hit and they showed that scene....and DAMN did it hit all the parts perfectly. I love being proven wrong because when I am I'm reminded that there can be good things in the world.
OSP's Red has compared adaptations (with author involvement, anyway) to second drafts. Not to say that adaptations are always the ~definitive version~ or anything, but rather that they get to play around with what you've done before to get things to the new medium while keeping the core. And I think this _really works_ with One Piece.
Great video my man! I agree totally on your Mihawk take. Like you said, he's a warlord of the sea. The greatest swordsman alive. He must be a popular figure in the One Piece world, with his picture plastered across newspapers and stuff. How can he just waltz onto a deck of a restaurant populated by sailors, without even getting recognised? That was one major gripe I had with that episode as well. Also, tying up Gin's story and Mihawk's destruction of the fleet was easy to do. We just needed to know that the horror Gin was talking about , was the same horror we saw Mihawk inflicting a few scenes back. The zoro take, erm. Unsure. I think Zoro was made more stoic/edgy/cool to put him as a great foil for Luffy. a contrast. Him being so aloof and cool makes Luffy seem ever more goofy. I'm sure zoro's personality will shine through more as the season's go by. In this retelling, I think Zoro didn't really become part of the crew till the Mihawk duel. Its like his old self died at Hawkeye's hand, and a new Zoro was reborn - the one who swore allegiance to Luffy. This new Zoro, I believe, will be more lighthearted and more himself, not constantly haunted by his past and trying to prove himself to his dead friend. That was just my take on it.
Something I love that you touched on is the carnival aesthetic of Arlong Park. It was great especially when you remember from Fishman Island that Arlong based it on Sabaody Park.
I look at the Mihawk bar introduction scene differently, in my opinion it builds him up as even bigger threat and a boogieman, he isn't "oh shit, Mihawk entered the scene, we need to act", he's "oh shit it's too late to act because he's already on the scene and we didn't even know"
Arlong Park having games and stuff is also super cool because if you remember, Along based his base off of Sabaody Park from the Sabaody Archipelago. Since as a child he was never allowed to go there for being a fishman.
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Oda said in an interview to blame him for anything you dont like about the live action cause EVERYTHING went through him and he had the final say on everything
Every now and then live action Zoro says something incredibly dumb, he just delivers it with the same level of cool confidence as he does everything else.
I think what this version does nicely is show us a serious and edgy bounty hunter, that gets little cracks in the armor as he softens up and his more goofball attitude shines through.
When he got lost on the way to the mansion from the well... that is literally in front of said mansion. The smiles in between.
His entire persona was the lone wolf pirate killer, So I like the more serious approach with the potential of silly humor and jokes down the line.
@@yannicklarafunez4768 plus he so confident that not much phases him. He reminds me of MCU Drax just not completely socially inept
@@pickedceasar1216Thing is that Mackenyu in interviews and the promo games videos they released really does shit/says things with that confidence that comes across as that silly. Like, when they played the game of misscomunication/broken phone, the only sentence important to say correctly was "One Piece is now streaming on Netflix" but it was Mackenyu who got to deliver the sentence outloud. He said with so much confident "Netflix is now streaming on Netflix" while striking a pose, only to then his castmates realize and tell him, which really took him by surprise and made him look so silly.
Zorro got lost after lost after being thrown in a well directly in front of the Mansion 🏘️😂.I did feel the same about live action zorro but his life head moments are a lot more suttle
@@zarinapena5846that video cracks me up. i didn’t even know he wasn’t doing that on purpose and to see his face morph from confidence to confusion to then realization and then the five of them laughing made it all the more hilarious lol
I will say they're def taking Zoro being an idiot slow but it's still there. One of the funniest "blink and you'll miss it" lines is when he says Kaya's mansion is "like a maze" while... walking down a long, straight hallway.
Or Zoro getting lost going back to the mansion that is in plain view of the well.
Or him struggling to seat at Baratie with the swords, and after he does he´s still uncomfortable but struggles to look cold and cool
my one criticism on Zoro is especially pre-time skip was more fun. Zorro in the live action seems like the only direction he was given was "cool" which meant looking depressed all the time
When he asks Nami "Where's port?" on the ship and doesn't move even after she answers him 🤣
@@Wedontplayjamesseriously i hope it gets better
The moment live action Garp threw the cannonball and Luffy balloon'd it back was the moment it was confirmed in my eyes this show loves it's source material. So great.
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At first the balloon looked weird then luffy bounced it back, that part actually still somehow looked good
They say that Garp's increased presence strayed from the material, but I truly think that was Oda choosing to have Garp be more involved. He did say it was the perfect chance to redo how some of the East Blue played out, and to get perfectly fresh reactions from new audiences. I can't decide which Garp I like more.
@@RickyTrain5 While I do personally like that change, it was explicitly stated that Garp's role was something they had to convince Oda to greenlight.
I was surprised at seeing how well Gum Gum Balloon was adapted. I didn’t think it would but they somehow managed to.
I actually kinda liked Mihawk casually having a drink at a bar, it reinforces Zoro being a sword nerd, since while Nami clearly knows of Mihawk by name, she didn't recognise him on sight like Zoro did. You're absolutely entitled to your opinion on it though, one of the best things the live action has done for OP fans is give us a whole bunch of things to debate and discuss about what and how we would have done differently,
I think one of the main things that shows how well the live action works is that (with rare exceptions) everyone new to One Piece loves it and (again, with rare exceptions) every One Piece manga or anime fan watching it goes something along the lines of "yeah I didn't like these 3 specific things, but overall it works really well and it clearly 'gets' One Piece and also maybe these 3 other specific things were actually something that's better than in the original."
The fact that the 3 specific things (good or bad) differ from person to person really just shows that people have different tastes.
Also the worst I've heard anyone say about the live action is that it's mid and probably half of these were just trolls begging for attention.
I would have tried to keep Don Krieg & Gin close to how their involvement was in the manga. The attack on the Baratie was important for Sanji's development in wanting to go out & travel with Luffy. Same goes for Mihawk's fight. Sanji was originally there to see it, and seeing Zoro declare his resolve was also a part of Sanji's change of heart.
@@student76543very true. I watched the series with a group of friends, some of them huge fans of One Piece, some who dropped the anime/manga but were curious, and two of us (me being one of them) who had never consumed anything One Piece prior. All of us truly enjoyed it, and it even convinced me to finally start reading the manga.
I think it fits his character to just turn up so suddenly at the bar because he has a very quiet and understated personality. It also makes sense from a narrative perspective too; it's supposed to be very jarring to have such a powerful character suddenly show up as it makes Zoro seem all the more reckless yet resolved to challenge him.
as a netflix-only (but anime/manga-aware), i wrote the bar appearance off as "notorious, yet sneaky". I've since learned his boat is visible in the show's prologue, but is indeed little more than a dinghy. He reads as more assassin than commander of men
Making kuro a slasher Villain was such a cool concept
It just fits
You could tell the actor was having a great fucking time stalking around with blade gloves.
Then again you could say similar things about all the named characters in the series lol. I think enthusiasm was like the most important factor in hiring.
Honestly it makes me wonder how Oda didn't think to do that the first time around. That whole arc in the anime is fine but mostly forgettable and I know because until we got introduced to Kuro, under the guide of Khlahadore, I hadn't remembered him and I was like "Oh yeah, One Piece Lady Deathstrike". But this version was far more scary, charismatic, and dare I say, a more interesting character than the original.
Oda isn't typically one to have an indoor fight. They're almost always outside due to having more choreographic freedom. He did it only briefly for Arlong and Croco just for the symbolism, idk what was going on with Wapol, and then finally we had proper indoor fights in w7 and enies lobby.
@@Byssbod maybe now that he sees an early fight of his done this way he'll start doing it in the manga more often.
As someone who went into OPLA blind and came out loving it, I actually liked Mihawk’s appearance at Baratie. The show established this badass pirate dude, with a big fuck-off sword that can cut boats in half. When Usopp was talking and the camera panned over to reveal Mihawk, I damn near shat myself
big same. they established how powerful he was so well that when the camera panned to him i actually went 'eep!' out loud lmao
Him having such a nonchalant entrance gives that vibe that he could just should up anywhere, and you wouldn’t even notice. A big fearsome entrance would make him just another villain, which he clearly is not.
@@graceisNERD yup. In the OG, the fact that Mihawk bumped into Luffy by chance was to emphasize the fact that the sea was filled with extremely powerful entities. The way they portrayed this in the live action was really well executed
yeah I thought he was going to complain about how he seemingly teleported there, not his entrance.
while I like the idea of connecting Mihawk with Gin more strongly, I think building him up to be so strong in front of Luffy or Zoro would have made their resolution for Zoro to fight him seem less like ignorance and more like foolishness. as much as I love the original, and I do kind of like the fact that Zoro is suicidally brave, I think it makes sense to at least make it believable that he thinks he could win
I love Mihawk's intro in the Baratie too. It was clearly suppose to play into the whole "dun dun dun" shock value entrance where you weren't suspecting this casual person was this powerful character who already arrived on scene.
I think they might just be slow-rolling Zoro's idiocy to be fair, since he DID get lost in Syrup Village going from the well he was dumped in back to Kaya's mansion... when the well is on the mansion grounds so he had to go the complete wrong way. It's not completely gone, but it's just not as prominent.
There's honestly a few moments where he's an outright fool, it's just portrayed so subtly. Another moment is when he thought there was a toilet in the ship... When there wasn't.
So I really don't get the complaint of Roronoa Zoro, other than there being a groundedness to the character. Which is consistent with the rest of the cast.
@@mcihay246 He also gave Helmeppo his infamous haircut and had a big goofy grin on his face when he admitted it. Honestly, I think it is the fact that all the characters are bit more grounded to fit into the live action media better is why this version of Zoro comes across as less of an idiot/goof.
If I recall correctly, even his sense of direction got worse as time went on (or at least by the time Alabasta hit) since I don't even remember him really getting lost before then. His delay in fighting the Black Cat pirates in the manga was even because of Nami using him to escape the oil trap they'd set rather than him getting lost. So slow-rolling his idiocy/goofiness is likely what they are going with for this.
I think as time goes by we'll see more of Zoro's idiocy. Like swimming naked in Drum island etc.
As well as much more open and cheerful Nami in Season 2.
My favorite even more subtle lost Zoro moments in the Live action are the fact that he calleds the halls of the mansion a maze and he can’t find his way to the kitchen without luffy at night, and the fact that he is even on Sixis island when we meet him, cause that one is even more subtle if you arent aware of the fact that Sixis is supposedly abandoned with nothing on it and Zoro paid a ship to ferry him there
i think people also forget that zoro wasn't that goofy of a character until they actually entered the grand line.
east blue zoro is very much a serious character with a few goofy moments, he's not "can't find his way down a straight hallway" zoro until water 7.
I like how live-action Buggy's design is a fitting tribute to Oda's original design of Buggy
Now Buggy really looks like the Clown Prince of Piracy that always he was.
@@kingace6186nah man he the pirate king fr fr
so his original design was garbage? Well glad he changed it.
@@ProtocolAbyss He is the goat, Buggy D. Clown
In a letter, Tolkien stated that the most crucial requirement of a successful adaptation is that it adheres to the “spirit of the original”. Big changes will have to be made, but they must preserve the atmosphere, themes/messages, metaphysics, etc. Oneflix Netpiece basically succeeded in this, and this is certainly thanks to Oda’s deep involvement (and previous experience with the anime adaptation), and the show runners’ authentic and sincere love/respect for the work
oh bullshit. Oda doesn't give a flying fuck about this show. He got paid, thats it. He didn't do a damn thing in regards to this show, you're cappin so hard.
I always find it funny when people say that actors in live-action adaptations just look like cosplayers as if that's somehow supposed to be a bad thing, even though the entire point of cosplay is to make yourself look like the character. It's like ordering a meal at a restaurant and being upset that they gave you Ravioli instead of pasta 😂
@@side-room-21there's a movie make-up react lady who reacts to OPLA and she addresses this very thing. I don't remember her name, but I saw the video on youtube yesterday
This is one of the major unfortunate side effects of the marvel effect. Disney spending hundreds of millions on a 2 hour show. Everyone's expectations on what a production should be are so sky high that no-one can reasonably achieve them. All of one piece LA is cheaper than just about every marvel movie since Avengers 1, and that budget is stretched thin over around 8 hours of content. And with the wacky nature and design of the characters, the changes in clothes to make the characters real, the complexity of the physical scenes and the sheer number of actors, yeah, budget gets cut somewhere. The few cases of CGI in the series was incredibly expensive. There are scenes where you can clearly tell they just ran out of budget.
It's because cosplays look cheap.
In otherwords, the clothes the actors are wearing look like cheap knock-offs.
@@TheOriginal_Unaleska not all cosplays look cheap. Depends on the budget, materials, and skill level of the costume designer. I'm not aware of the budget of One Piece, but I still think their costumes look good.
@@side-room-21Doesn’t hair dye destroy your hair? You shouldn’t have to go full method for a role. It’s not like theatre actors do that, in fact they scoff at it.
Regarding Mihawk's presence in the Baratie's bar, my initial reaction was similar to yours. What changed my viewpoint is the realization that the East Blue is the most peaceful sea. The reason a pirate like Krieg or Arlong can aim for its hegemony and people like Axe-Hand Morgan and Nezumi go (mostly) unpunished for their corruption is because this place is an afterthought nobody cares about. The only person on Baratie with the wider worldview to allow him to be aware of the big movers and shakers and how scary they are is Zeff, and he was clearly not a part of that scene. All other people? Naah. Would you recognise Emily Rudd if she was in your rural stores queue without any makeup? Hell no; at best you'd be like 'they remind me of someone'. For ordinary people in the East Blue, the big movers and shakers won't be in their ocean, and when they are, they'll be accompanied by crews or even huge fleets with everybody already running for dear life. Mihawk, though? Eccentric and recognisable as he may be to us, to others he's at best a fanboy who dresses alike. With characters like Bartolomeo, Bon Clay or even a certain group of lookalikes, there are clearly plenty of reasons for lookalikes to exist.
amazing analysis!
EXACTLY THIS.
The "theme" of Mihawk's entrance in the original was that these monsters can appear anywhere in the world at a whim, sure there are exception, Big Mom or Kaidou wouldnt be in East Blue but there are a "thematic" reason for that too.
Mihawk is at the same time pompous and eccentric but surprisingly "frugal" in his lifestyle, he likes to travel, he doesnt pay mind to anything or anyone that doesnt interests him, he will stroll down in a rural little bar with the same easy he can obliterate a entire fleet by his lonesome.
I understand the desire for some omph in that bar scene, but its simplistic effect conveys exactly what the original did at another point of view... that this world is inhabited by entities that far surpass what you can imagine in power, but some of them are just cruising at their own pace... i mean... Shanks is exactly that too, he even has such leverage with the Gorousei to ask for a meeting because they know he is pretty shill if they don't provoke him first and that he can be argued with, most of his appearances in the manga he is chilling having fun with his crew.
Remember shanks appearance in East blue never cause any scene...
No one knows he even went there except a few... syrup village had no idea how a big deal ussop's father was ...just a nameless pirate
The thing I love about people talking about Hachi's absence is that they all ask what is the live action going to do at Sabaody.
Mate. If the live action ever makes it to Sabaody, that is such an incomprehensible W that I don't even care anymore.
The choice was between adding a super expensive octopus to justify events for season 10 vs making sure that the final act of season 1 looks clean and polished.
I think people are sad about Hachi being omitted also because Hachi has potential for a great character arc, albeit one that even the source material doesn't do full justice to. Him encountering Nami again forces him to grapple with all the terrible things he was complicit in.
Also, he serves as Zoro's opponent at Arlong Park for a fun fight and comic relief. But then they downplayed Sanji's fight with Kuroobi too, so at least it's balanced.
Honestly speaking, it's not like Hachi was THAT important in his introduction anyways. They can always just explain it away like "oh he was just off doing a task for Arlong when everything fully went down." Or even just say he was there and just have it so no one remembers him cause he was inconsequential in stopping Zorro and Sanji's rampage.
I would be very happy if the live action makes it to Water 7, I think they can really nail it.
he was just important in the funniest joke of the arc, which i think would be cut anyway for time and for the vibes, it easy to have multiple episodes of Hachi helping zoro without realizing he was an enemy and still being nice after that when the arc takes multiple chapters in the manga, because you can reserve the last chapters for the serious stuff, not as easy to do that in 2 episodes
I mean realistically, Hachi is ;not integral to the story. He can be replaced by any on the Arlong Pirates. Kuroobi had decent screen time so theyre probably just going to use him to substitute Hachi and it will make zero difference while saving hundreds of thousands in CGI
As a big Zoro fan for more than 15 years i can say with certainty that I LOVE Mackenyu’s take on the character. I could use a little more of himbo energy but I think he nailed the overall look and he feels like Zoro!
I've seen people actually say that he's too edgy, that he's acting more like Sasuke than Zoro. As if that's somehow (1) true and (2) a bad thing.
@@jacobwansleeben you've given me flashbacks to the zoro x sasuke fanfiction era on god
I could've gone my whole life without knowing something like that existed. Thanks for that. @@kurootsuki3326
@@kurootsuki3326THERE WAS A ZORO X SASUKE FF ERA??? 😭😭 i knew no one was more unhinged within fandom circles than crossfandom shippers lmaooo
You think Zoro has himbo energy?
honestly, the deadpan seriousness as zoro says dumb or funny gets me everytime both in the live action and in the anime. that scene in the live action where zoro is talking about what luffy had told him when he was tied up on the cross at the marine base and luffy repeats everything zoro said vertbatim and zoro just drops his head as a response had me cackling
I think substituting the Koby and Helmeppo cover stories with their expanded material in East Blue can work if they avoid showing up again until post Enies Lobby. Like, what they did here didn't 'ruin' them in any way. They're just played differently.
Yeah, Garp specifically felt like a transitionary point from flashback Garp to when we see him at Water 7.
Maybe we can see them for a single episode in season 2 with Garp deciding to put them in a training academy, then leave them be until they return in Season 4 or 5
i honestly like having them on the show, but i really didnt want garp to meet luffy yet, or to reveal their relationship. But its a minor gripe
honestly, Koby being the one to show Luffy his bounty was such a great addition, that it alone outweighs the cons of making these changes
@@rhyestripes6059 I think revealing Garp now is a net positive. He's played a big enough role that it's still shocking to people, but it leaves out the reveal of Luffy's dad. Though having the reveals double-dropped was wildly exciting at the time, I think having them be separate reveals has its on benefits.
I also think it just helps people attach to the story more early on. I think it helps people realize earlier on that One Piece is a story with twists and turns and characters and worldbuilding that can all be theorized about and won't always be predictable (especially helpful after two episodes where the villains were very easy to detect and their schemes easy to see through).
I actually like the bar scene myself. It fits as largely no one really knows him by look, and he's far from the most colorful character they've seen, so there is little reason for anyone to make a big todo about his appearance. He himself also has little reason to make a grand entrance, not generally doing so, being on assignment, and likely knowing the restaurant is a good location to at learn some info so making a scene would be counter productive. And lastly, I've always been a sucker for the 'that unassuming guy at the bar can kick all your asses' trope which this plays into a bit.
I think Zoro was still pretty accurate, just more subtle on the dumbass-ness and humour. Like, he thinks he's smart and cool, but actually it's mostly just a façade and he gets away with it, cause lots of ppl find him scary. I think we will stee more shenanigans with Luffy as we go along in season 2. Also, he did get lost a couple of times, lol.
the "getting lost" part is also not super established until after they enter the grand line iirc
@@river3495yah i actually liked him more like this.. he’s new on the whole crew things so naturally he’ll try to act super scary super cool. But when the crew goes along with each other everyday, they start to catch that Zoro isn’t that much different in spirit.
The one scene that really sold me was the closing shot, because the strawhats genuinely felt like the crew we've come to love. This series is going to be great
Right I didn't think I'd feel them as a while but you know what I watched it so much
god imagine the kaido fight scene i woudl imagine 80% of the budget went to making sure it's a good fight scene and the rest is making sure the actor is playing the character right
I feel like Inaki is constrained by the direction and the fact that this is live action. Because in real life, he's actually a LOT more animated and Luffy-like than what ended up on the final version of the series.
he’s the most luffiest a person has ever luffy-ed in real life. he just embodies that kooky and zany quality luffy has and the thing is he isn’t even pretending or exaggerating it, it’s just him and it’s innate. there was a video of him as a child doing the rounds on twitter around august, and it’s really like when luffy was a kid. iñaki barely changed, he only got older, and he was still the same as he was as a kid lol
I totally disagree about Mihawk at the bar, I think it works better the way it is. You have to remember they're making this show for a general audience who doesn't know that Mihawk fights Zoro at Baratie, at this stage he's just a terrifyingly powerful pirate that we know our characters wouldn't be any match for. Suddenly in the middle of what had been a pretty relaxed, fun scene with some drama on the backburner, the guy that we just watched cut a ship in half (but just long enough ago to have half-forgotten that he's coming) suddenly pops in right next to Usopp. If there'd been a scene right beforehand where he slowly drifts up to Baratie, that would have no impact.
i like Mihawks entrance because he emergeces from no where. an indetectable threat you would never see coming
Steven Spielberg earned his name with that phenomenon. Both of his first movies- Duel and Jaws- were entirely devoted to this idea.
Of a massive, unstoppable threat that can seemingly disappear and reappear at will because of how well they blend into their environment.
It’s safe to say that they succeeded in bringing new people in. Take it from someone who wrote the series off, decided to try the LA, and now because of it is currently on episode 96
Very real. I fully refused to watch the series for so long because I fully didn't believed the 1000 episodes were worth all the time for a story that would only get "good" after the however many hundread arcs. I watched the live action on a whim and fell in love with it, nearing the end of the Arabasta arc now and it's so silly and enjoyable, love this show.
@@lehermitcrab7463 wow you finally met Captain Hooks🪝 who always get eaten by a crocodile🐊 Oops wait wrong show😂😂😂
Yes! I've seen so many RUclipsrs watch the live action and then start reacting to the anime. I was really into OP when I was about 22, but I fell out of it (nasty ex was really into it so it started to bring up bad memories etc) and the live action roped me right back in and now I'm up to date on the manga lol
Welcome to the journey! Strap in 😁
Yup! The LA is the reason I am now on ep 60
There's are only about 900 easter eggs in the set dressing and set design of this show, the entire team working on it must have been big fans.
not just must have been, they’ve always been. even their camera director is a big fan along with her sons (they also went to south africa when they were scouting locations!) and said she used to read the manga to them as bedtime stories when her sons were younger and watched the anime with them 🥹 incredibly based mom and i love the fact that one piece helped her create wonderful memories with her children.
Personally, I'd say that live action Zoro still manages to come off as a lunkhead, but a lunkhead who carries himself really well. But I can see where you're coming from.
yeah he's just better at pretending he's got his shit together
The choice to make Arlong park a theme park works a lot better for the eventual reveal that it was based on sabaody park
Even before that reveal, I always felt like it was meant to be a Theme part they cobbled together.
I do understand your point about Mihawk's entrance, but at the same time, the slow reveal of the person Usopp's been spinning bullshit to being Mihawk was really hilarious.
Honestly, almost any member of Arlong's crew except for Arlong himself can play the role that Hachi does in Sabaody and Fishman Island, it's just that Hachi is the most likable and memorable member of Arlong's crew in the manga and anime
Well you could also just introduce Hachi then and say that he left Arlong early because he disagreed with him. Have Nami recognize him and still be pissed.
@@SolitaryLarkin this la version the connection will entirely lose if its not the one appears in screen that attempt to redeem the past of arlong park however they could introduced them both but highlighted hachi as more mild tempered one (in flashback for sake of relatablility) even then the slave auction scene will weakened if its hachi whos (let say left arlong park early off screen) whos getting shot since well hes been morally correct from before what put his morale anchored heavily enough to put his body for take the bullet for the strawhats
@@SolitaryLark it won’t have the same impact, besides animating him would still be prohibitively expensive
@@blakchristianbale I think it would work perfectly fine
@@SolitaryLark it’d work fine but it’d work better if they just used one of the other fishman pirates, especially since as I said Hachi will still be way more costly than a normal character
"i can still take you" " in a fight, right?"😂
I think some of the changes were made like "yeah this will really fuck us up when we reach the 12th season. This is netflix, we are lucky if we reach the 4th season, so lets go with it"
EXACTLY.
As long as the show lasts long enough to introduce Ace, I think I’ll be okay.
I really liked Zoro. He's emotional enough that he doesn't feel like a canvas covered in edge, but if he as this knuckleheaded brute like he seems to be in the anime, I probably would've hated him. Different strokes for different folks and all. I just personally really liked the Zoro we got.
One thing that really comes across with this adaption is how everyone working on it is passionate about the source material. There is so much love and care put into every single choice and detail for this series. I am so happy it was a success and cannot wait for more to come.
Mihawk in the source material is like the unique enemies in Xenoblade games. You’ll be in an area filled with lvl 10 enemies when suddenly a giant, lvl 86 gorilla named “Unperturbed Gregory” shows up out of nowhere and turns your bones to dust.
Well
That's what you get for perturbing Gregory
Zoro being kinda the edgelord whose serious 99% of the time could be them trying to make thing little bit realistic cause this dude used to kill pirates for berries. *KILL PIRATES*
So to make this guy who is called Demon pirate hunter act goofie with the crew from the get go could maybe give the audience a whiplash. I mean his introduction scene had him cut Mr.7 cut in half. So I can understand him acting too cool for school-ish. But imo that makes his fun scenes and his smiles more impactful. But that could be the Zoro simp in me talking.
But they could potray his older brother vibe in the future. I mean they are bring Chopper so they have to bring out the older brotherish vibe he excludes when he's around Chopper.
When I watched that execution scene and realised that they actually put so many people in the audience I had to go back and watch it again because I wanted to savour it. It was so exciting. Like, Mihawks little coffin boat in the harbour??
Garp was my favourite change and really helped the story have momentum. Also great for exposition. It also doesn’t hurt that the actor for Garp was their best actor, too.
100% agree
I believe that the focus on Garp this early on, including his motivation to test Luffy's resolve, will have a huge payoff if they ever get to Marineford. I just hope that they handled the scene Garp was crying as he told Ace "why didn't you became a marine like I told you to?" properly. It's also a dynamic that really lead to some interesting things we never have the chance in the main series like more Coby and Helmeppo interactions as well as Garp and Zeff talking to each that is just great to have. It's the kind of original content that feel fresh even to old time fans, and that's not possible without the Garp change.
51:54 “Don’t you think him nonchalantly appearing in the bar undercuts that a bit?” No, actually. I’m sure others have already said this, but I actually quite enjoyed his entrance. I agree with what you said about the whole Garp hiring him thing, but when it comes to the entrance in the Netflix show, I think it serves a similar purpose to how Mihawk just… appeared in canon. He can just show up places, no one the wiser that there’s a wolf in their midst. Having him pop up like that and seeing Usopp just. Casually talking to him, completely unaware of the danger he’s in, was genuinely tense and compelling. It’s a different kind of entrance, sure, but I’d still argue that it’s a good one that serves a similar purpose to the original source material.
My vote for chopper is puppet style with “detective pikachu” style cgi polishing it
Now I'm thinking The Jim Henson Company. Wouldn't that be awesome?
The live action adaptation was my first experience with One Piece, and I fuckin' LOVED IT! It was just a damn entertaining show, and it got me to start working my way through the anime. So yeah; mission accomplished, Netflix.
Now don't fuck up Avatar, or we will have WORDS!
Same here, started the anime a month ago and I'm already on episode 349 lol
Honestly, Avatar was doomed from the start.
Panning over to Mihawk just being there casually after showing his introduction was the better choice. No need to go over dramatic with it, it gives the aduience an oh shit moment when they notice the hat and the scene the vibe that Usopp is just sitting there unknowingly having a conversation with Jason Voorhees.
dude, the actor who plays zorro is sonny shiba (harianzo from kill bill)'s son, that's martial arts royalty
To be fair, he makes a point of stating that his issue isn't the actor's acting, but rather the directing when it comes to Zoro's character.
the thing about Mihawk "just being there" and not having this huge entrance with Gin explaining and all (which i find a neat idea, thinking about it) lets my Headcanon just say "hey it's one piece, unexpected sh-- can happen everywhere, anytime"
something i find interesting about the exclusion of Jango in the series is that one of those wanted posters that shows characters who show up a lot later in the series actually includes a wanted poster of Jango, which means he still exists in the live action version.
28:27 i keep coming back to this part because the way he jumps in and says “in a fight right??” is just so funny
One thing that i really love is the german dub, which i watched! They got all of the major voice actors and a lot of the side characters from the Anime dub aswell, and while you can tell they are the same people, they completly voice their characters different in this adaptation compared to the anime. It truly felt like a love letter and made me appreciate the adptation as a whole so much more!
Thank you. I watched the German dub, too, but haven't yet the seen the German dub of the anime, and did not know this.
Same in the Brazillian dub. Most of the anime VAs are in the live action
Damn that's actually a really cool touch, I expect it felt kinda surreal yet familiar hearing those same voices come out of live action characters?
@@PsoewishNot really. I grew up with the German TV dub and it just gives me a big nostalgia kick. That's why I was absolutely sold on it soon as I saw the German trailer. Besides it's a really good adaptation overall
The Japanese dub also has the original VAs. But the intonation is quite different and has different flavour than the anime...
My biggest concern, now after season 1, is how they can produce all those arcs into seasons, without aging of the cast. Season 2 needs 2 years to be made, soo you can make your own estimate how long this will go if they try to do the whole story.
They kept the spirit of One Piece in this series for sure, but for me, it really kicks in after you spent some time with the crew and their adventures
All they have to do is let the characters grow up at a natural pace instead of the time skip, and presto! Problem solved. Anyway the cast is pretty young, and even if they got wrinkles or something, they'll look young with a bit of makeup for a long time yet.
As far as the show overall, well, the manga is still being written, so either the show will go on so long they'll eventually change out the cast like the Doctor Who series, or jump to the end if Oda ever ends it hehe.
Also for a big budget show their hustle seems to be good. The writer's strike is delaying season 2 but potentially it could be only 12 months between seasons. I think of shows like this more like movies anyway...the budget, the quality, the sets, are movie level, and movies used to come out so slowly, and those were only an hour and a half haha. We get 8 hours of movie-quality cinema each time. It's pretty cool when you think about!
To be fair to live action Zoro, there is still some idiot in there, it’s just being a bit more subtle about it. The most obvious part is when he got lost during the Kuro arc
It's great that they've infused the East Blue Saga with stuff only hindsight can give you.
Eg the Arlong Park looking like a carnival, must be a nod to the Shabaody Park, that all young Fishmen want to visit but no one can.
As for Zoro, my issue is that he feels more like post timeskip Zoro. East Blue Zoro is still kind of a kid, whereas post timeskip he's been forced to grow up.
Don't you feel like that change happens even earlier? I've been reading and rereading for a while and the thing that struck me the most in recent rereads is precisely how much more serious Zoro gets after losing to Mihawk, his whole coolness and confidence kind of take a backseat after being shown the gap of strengths.
Although, that is pushed to the brink post timeskip, like him calling out Luffy at Punk Hazard
I wonder how they’ll adapt Usopps lies slowly becoming true one by one each arc.
Dude that is too far into the Future.😅
if they stay consistent in how much they'll adapt each season, season 2 could be alabasta, s3 is skypea, s4 is water 7 and enies lobby, s5 is amazon lily all the way to marineford, s6 fishman island and punk hazard, s7 dressrosa, s8 wano and s9 and 10 would be the grand finale with the final war that still hasnt concluded in the manga
@@arnowisp6244 I mean, the goldfish is season 2 material, so like... the fact that they included it as a story in Syrup Village live action tells me they plan to uphold it...
Buggy is so babygirl, thank you for mentioning that
In all fairness, they can still totally introduce Hachi later on once it becomes necessary, and just have Nami explain that he was one of the Arlong pirates then. It does lose a bit of impact that way, but it'd still work.
Me and my brother the day it came out sat down and binged it all that night. We’re both huge one piece fans, so not only did it feel amazing to see how good the actual series was, be able to watch it all in one go, the live action also gave me one of the best memories I will ever have with my brother and that’s something that I can’t ever forget about this live action.
It’s really cool that Arlong Park mirrors the amusement park on Sabaody Archipelago in the LA even more.
Which makes sense because Aarlong as a kid was fascinated by Sabaody Archipelago and its whimsical look
As someone who only watched live action I enjoyed Koby and Garp's marine storyline. Aside from the points made in the video, it was a great way to integrate exposition. Showing marines through Koby's eyes allowed to convey a lot of information about the One Piece's world without resorting to excessive info dumps. Instead of people telling other people about marines and who they are, we get to actually see what marines are like. And by extension what that world at large is like. In other words, the series committed to "show, don't tell" principle. It helped me to follow the story without a need to process too much verbal information and without a need to pause the series to clarify things. It did a good job.
I disagree on the Zoro point has somebody who loves Zoros character in both iterations.
For me while I enjoy the aloof aspect of his character a good bit and the getting lost bit can be pretty damn funny, I kinda feel like the show goes overboard with it way to often.
Actually the live action Zoro is pretty spot on to how Zoro was written back then. During the east blue there wasn’t much about Zoro being stupid, sure plenty of goofy moments but those mostly came from his self confidence mixed with occasional light hearted fun like in Little Garden for example just a little bit longer into the story.
Around Water 7 onword though Zoro’s dumb jokes were cranked up to 11 and for me personally has a critique to the source material I always thought they went way over bored with it. It honestly takes away from the charm and just makes him a tad annoying at times for me.
So with that in mind I loved how they did Zoro in this, he wasn’t just completely brain dead execpt for fighting, we got to see him actually have some critical thought and have a lot of cool moments other then just fighting, which I don’t know if I can say for modern day Zoro who will tend to be a complete meathead.
That's a good point! I love what a badass doofus Zoro is and the mix is the important part. Too much doofus is just as frustrating as too much badass. I think the ratio is a little off in live action but they're laying the groundwork and I think the silliness will get more prominent while still being more grounded because of the new medium.
exactly! This is the first mate that would say "those legendary speech" to Luffy in Ennies Lobby arc
this take is very stange but to each their own i guess, zoro gets just as many if not more badass moments in the manga as he does goofy moments. The idea that zoros character in the manga is played for a laugh too often is a strange take that just isnt really true. You also say zoro is played for laughs too much but then also you say he is only used as a brainless fighter? Im not sure I understand ur critique of zoro's character in the manga as your reasoning for that seems contradictory. Not tryna argue or be toxic im just a bit confused and i enjoy media analysis
Arlong park having carnival games makes so much sense lore wise as well because in cannon a lot of fishman kids sneak up to sabaody to ride the theme park rides
In regards to your complaints about Zoro, I’d say that Mackenyu’s Zoro is still a fucking dumbass, but it’s way more subtle. There are multiple “getting lost” jokes, but only if you’re paying attention to how the fuck Zoro wound up somewhere. He thinks there’s a fucking toilet in a dingy, not “oh, the ship is sinking”. And him not being able to get into the booth at Baratie because of his swords is some great physical comedy.
8:39 Now that the ATLA LA was dropped, I can confidently say it wasn't low expectations, because my expectations were the lowest a fan could possibly have, and they still utterly failed to meet any of them.
Even one more amazing thing about this show is that in the German dub of the live action the voice actors of the Anime also voice their characters (mostly). It is so incredibly amazing as a german watcher honestly
I love Koby being more relevant in the Live Action, it sets up an even more complex character arc for him. East Blue shaped his mind, Grand Line will shape his body, and New World will shape his spirit. And Garp being included is really good too, it pushes the plot forward, the crew legitimately *can't* stay in one place for too long. Not to mention his stand off against Luffy will be a perfect parallel in Marineford, i can already imagine the exact same scenario playing out, maybe even with the scenes overlapping, and Garp letting himself get punched this time.
Butler Merry really has more sheep-like features in the liveaction, a very interesting choice, i wonder if he is a mink or at least half-mink here. Shame he died tho, i feel like he could have been *the* one fake-out death that could have been kept, but simply because he could have elevated the symbolism in the scene with Zoro climbing out of the well, carrying a half-dead man with him would fit perfectly with the weight of carrying Kuina's dream, and with the sheep/lamb imagery on top of it? It would have made the scene perfect, but i'm a sucker for that kinda shit so that's probably just me.
Hachi can still be included as a "new" character alongside Camie, yeah it's not gonna be as impactful as the manga but he's too narratively important to be completely axed.
Don Krieg's dead Yamcha pose still cracks me up every time i see it.
Thank you for directly putting into words my exact thoughts on this show. Like every point is "yup!" from me.
Her and Iman Vellani who was a ms marvel cosplayer before getting cast to play her in the MCU and now gets to help write her comics. Both get a heartfelt Good for Her!
I wish they did better with emphasising Luffy destroying Nami's room at Arlong Park. They establish it well in the opening of the fight, but when Luffy goes to destroy it, it's played off as him intentionally foiling Arlong's plans which... No? Luffy is destroying Nami's room, because it's the thing trapping Nami in Arlong Park. It's the symbol of her turmoil and trauma, so it's powerful when Luffy starts throwing desks and chairs out the windows, and where the bystanders just see a chair, Luffy and Nami connect on an emotional level. This is easily the biggest miss of the whole live-action to me, bar none.
I was pleasantly surprised at the authenticity of the rest of Arlong Park, but that detail is one of the first beautifully complex moments of One Piece to me. I felt kinda similar about the other crewmate arc resolutions too--Sanji doesn't cry like a bitch, Usopp doesn't have to say goodbye to his play pretend pirate crew, we don't get to see kid Zoro training through the pain of losing his friend.
I liked the adaptation a lot, but I like it like I like the Scott Pilgrim movie--a fun, well executed, creatively engaging project that also misses some of the keyest details. Good, even great popcorn fun, but missing out on the deep roots of some of the storylines.
This was basically my thoughts on it. It's very well-done, and I loved basically every second of it, but it's just missing the things that really elevate One Piece in my mind to the highest level of literature
Oh, I haven't read the Manga, so this is an interesting aspect. The Nami one definitely feels like a big change. I feel like the other points are a little less important than that one. Like they're changes that are just for the time and medium, but I would have liked them to keep the Nami and Luffy one
@@jadetrolland8095 Don't let gametheus' wording taint your perception of Sanji and Usop's moment in the og one piece (if you haven't read or watched it by now lol). Sanji cries because Zeff finally expresses in a direct manner that he loves Sanji like a son by waving him off and supporting his dream of the all blue. As for Usop, his band of pretend pirates were basically his family ever since his mother died. How the villagers reacted when he stopped shouting for pirates also added to the emotional weight of that arc even tho it was a bit lackluster compared to the rest.
I love this incarnation of Zorro. It is like they took to post time skip Zorro and added it to the East Blue Saga.
I think hacchi missing from the story can actually spare them some time in future arcs by not redeeming him and instead just have him as a friendly fishman that the crew befriends (and also to show how Nami's bad experiences aren't translated into racism)
It's definitely unfortunate to take some of his character away, but in terms of adaptability, it might actually help in the future (they can either remove him entirely or just include him if they need to fill screentime in the story)
I just don't think he's entirely written off of the story yet and can still show up (call it copium, if you will lol)
Nami's past wasn't just about poverty but also racism. Arlong targeted Cocoyashi because they were weak humans. He wanted revenge for Fisher Tiger and was consumed by hatred towards all humans. And, without Hachi's apology & his connection to the Sun Pirates, Jinbe, and Camie, the Sabody and Fishman Island arcs would come across as hollow. We wouldn't even get the famous scene of Luffy punching the Celestial Dragon. Without Hachi & Camie, Nami might have never forgave Jinbe for release Arlong into the East Blue.
@@kingace6186nah, hacchi can still be a normal fishman that befriends the crew and we still have most of the things you mentioned
As I said in my original comment: It will have a weaker effect on those moments, but nothing that can't be solved with some changes like the ones they already did in the show
@@kingace6186 This can be changed to Hachi being a former Arlong crew member who was kicked out or fled after trying to stop Arlong and failing, later the crew might stop at his food store and hear about Nami's story then Hachi can apologize to her for not being able to stop Arlong
Hacchi actually isn't missing at all... he's the flamboyant star shaped hair fishmen that Nami is gambling with.... he just wasn't an octopus man...
Well, we do know that Jango does exist in the live-action verse from the wall of Wanted posters. And although we don't see him physically, this could be implied that the hypnosis still happened.
seto kaiba narating the gol d roger intro is hilarious
I hadn't thought much about the Zoro thing; I think it's as emblematic of the run time issue as we got with Usopp, where a lot of really really good Usopp moments either didn't get to happen or happened in a non-satisfactory way, that same issue nudges into Zoro's room to breathe and be a dummy. I think the next season as we get more of the adventure in, they might be able to remedy it
I personally liked Mihawk just being there at the bar. It's a big surprise, that he is already there, and a nice way to tell, that even tho he is the strongest swordsmen, he does like to just chill around like any normal person.
Got a chance to see the actor who played live action Mihawk at a convention recently, he was a pretty chill guy to chat with.
Masterful video, though a bit surprised you didn't comment on the score of the show, its bloody great. Also yeah I also thought the omission of Hachi was unfortunate as his inclusion is pretty damn important later on in the story, who knows maybe they can introduce him in Loguetown or something and mention he was a part of Arlongs crew or something?
i sincerely hope sonia and giona get their flowers and that the score wins awards!
Even though I didn't watch much of One Piece beyond clips or whenever it came on Toonami, I still understood that an adaptation would be a herculean task. And despite any personal misgivings about the series, I thoroughly enjoyed the live action start to finish. The whole cast has such an infectious energy, and the very clear love, blood, sweat, and tears that went into making the props, sets, and practical effects is ever present throughout. Even when I saw the first trailers, I went "holy shit... there's love in there!"
I think one of the reasons the look and feel worked so well is that when you look at it.. One Piece is a dark world. Shit's hitting the fan all of the time, terrible things have happened in the past and continue to. It's not a happy go lucky world, it's not a world full of hope. The magic of One Piece is that, despite all of this, the characters have the strength to shine and push through all of this regardless, almost as a big "fuck you" to everything that happened to their world.
Honestly I feel like this is where opla failed. They didn't have enough of the emotional impact scenes to set the tone of how this world works. The straw hats are icons BECAUSE one piece so clearly establishes the rules of this cruel world and then throws the straw hats against it. I don't think opla did enough establishing.
For me what most bugs me is the lack of silly. The light-hearted moments were a big part of what made the serious ones hit hard, and although the live action has a few, it's much tamer and fewer. I'm trying to waych it on its own merit but it's hard not missing that
I think what they're gonna do for Jango is just skip to him basically working for the marines by way of using Morgan to get in. As for Hachi they could have it something like he left the Arlong crew midway instead of after it disolves
They can even have Hachi as a current member of the Sun Pirates instead of a former one. Obviously it's not ideal but it won't change his character much.
He also could’ve been away from Arling Park druring the incident? Only finding out later the full ramifications of his decisions? I’m just spitballing here.
I really love how in-depth this review is! great points, some I may not agree with (like Mihawk in Baratie) but I know you and many others may align and are entitled to those opinions!
I wish you also reviewed the OPLA soundtrack and how that added to the story line. IMO the background Music for the anime is iconic in setting up a badass scene or preparing you for a major plot point, and I feel the rush in this the OPLA music similarly. Would love to know some in depth thoughts from OP fans and those that are well-versed in music
Damn I still remembered watching the 4Kids dub thinking it was kinda of cool, getting the Grand Battle games on GC, seeing Nico Robin giving my child self funny feelings and hoping she’d join the crew, what a time. Well now I love it, watch it mostly subbed and still have the same feelings for Robin. Although not gonna lie I would’ve preferred if the Kept Guy’s Voice for Zoro.
I had a few major gripes but my absolute #1 was that they butchered Shanks fighting that mountain bandit. The scene where he tells him "this isnt a game" as Lucky Roo shoots the other bandit in the head is one of the most iconic scenes in the whole series imo and sets the tone that although this is a wacky world, it is also a dark, cruel, and unfair one.
The Netflix adaptation decided to show that with Zorro's fight with Mr Seven. In live action, shooting someone in the head doesn't have the same impact when you can't drain the color from the world for a moment or have the background turn black. But seeing a man bisected diagonally certainly does get the same point across.
As an added bonus, it helps preserve Luffy's innocent experience with the Red Head Pirates. We don't get to see Shanks and his crew flex their muscles this early, because it's not necessary. That gets conveyed instead at the END of the season, when Mihawk comes to deliver Luffy's first Wanted poster, and it hits the viewer like a ton of bricks that Shanks is an EQUAL to Mihawk- *EVEN WITH AN ARM MISSING.*
It gives us a WAY better sense that the sea serpent got INCREDIBLY lucky when it took Shank's arm.
I'm Scottish and I'm so surprised at Garp's accent considering the actor is Welsh. He done a very good job with it.
I appreciate the work put into this video by including snippets of the creators thoughts of the series, well edited video
I mean, Jango not being in the LA doesn't mean he didn't exist. I could actually see them introducing Hina in season 2 and briefly showing Jango's backstory where he hypnotizes Morgan and the Kurow imposter, which would provide a nice throwback to season 1 events. Does it really matter if Jango joins the Marines before or after Syrup Village, if he wasn't there to begin with?
It's very easy to miss, but Jango does actually have a wanted poster in Shells Town so we know he exists. And since the sibling duo did way more actual fighting than him, I can see why they were kept and he was absent for Syrup Village.
25:58 Zoro does still have his dumb moments in the series. The major one is him being directionally challenged.
After he got out of the well, he got lost going to Kaya’s mansion even though it wasn’t that far. There was also him not knowing which direction was left and right.
He has his dumb moments, but they’re toned down for the live action.
Maybe now we can start getting a consistent set of good anime adaptations
Don't jinx it...
Never, unless all of the people in it are as passionate to the original series as the OPLA crews
The Last Airbender is coming soon, lets hope!
@@Itomon At least the first trailer looked actually quite promising...
The source material’s status as anime may be questionable, but I have high hopes for the Avatar: The Last Airbender adaptation too.
24:02 "Fatigued baby sister of the family" 🤣🤣🤣 Gosh! I love your video! I was exactly the same when they announced the live action and when they released the trailer, but after watching one episode after another I fell face first with hearts in my eyes 😆 OPLV is a version of it's own but still true to Oda's One Piece 👌
This live action got me into the anime. I appreciate its pacing whereas early anime arcs can sort of slog. I'm now around ep 500 so...halfway?😂
Besides the same issue I had with Zoro's portrayal here, I think the other biggest issues In had with the Live Action is the Fishman Racism being introduced so early. I personally liked how we saw the Arlong Crew as just a group of nearly cartoonishly greedy and evil racists early on, and it's kinda left at that until later. Which leads us to believe at this point that that's all they were, and that it's a trait that could be shared by all Fishmen. Only for us to reach Sabaody and later Fishman Island, and we learn that their racism was born of the racism that was inflicted on them, flipping the entire issue on it's head.
ok i think i have to disagree with you a bit about mackenyu's zoro. It is true that he's playing the character a lot edgier and a lot more composed than the manga version but it has a vibe of delusional confidence that I think fits the character really well. He always projects like he's in complete control of a situation and knows exactly what he's doing even when it's obvious he's clueless or in way over his head. Stuff like him getting mad about letting buggy go without collecting the bounty only for luffy to point out that he's a wanted man who can't go near the marines anyway and mackenyu just says with a straight face "oh yeah, I hadn't thought of that."
I got my dad to enjoy the show and he would never watch any anime with me so that was kind of an accomplishment. He loved it
I was blown away with the set designs and loved this show so much. Can’t wait for season 2, also
my son is 27 and he has watch all the shows and manga, even he couldn’t believe how amazing it was.
I like the passage of time, I know that sounds weird but the idea that dressrosa happened over the course of 1 day always bugged the absolute shit out of me, because i hated this idea that you can topple a monarch whos been entrenched for years and kick them out within 1 day, If they somehow make it to Dressrosa I can see entire scenes taking place at night to make it feel like this is a weeks-long journey to beat Doffy , The baratie scenes being at night made me love the live action because it felt real
This is the best video/essay about the live action ever. You deserve a sub
The best thing about this show is that it brought in a lot of new fans. A friend of mine was always intimidated by the length of One Piece but the feeling of the show was so good that they decided to pick up the manga right where the show left off.
Everything you've said in this is pretty much me, I didn't believe this was going to be anywhere near what it was and I was going to ignore it, then I heard they were doing all the way up to Arlong Park and I said to myself "if they don't get that scene right, I will flip a table." and started watching.
End of episode 1 I was 70% sure it would be fine, then episode 7 hit and they showed that scene....and DAMN did it hit all the parts perfectly.
I love being proven wrong because when I am I'm reminded that there can be good things in the world.
OSP's Red has compared adaptations (with author involvement, anyway) to second drafts. Not to say that adaptations are always the ~definitive version~ or anything, but rather that they get to play around with what you've done before to get things to the new medium while keeping the core. And I think this _really works_ with One Piece.
Great video my man! I agree totally on your Mihawk take. Like you said, he's a warlord of the sea. The greatest swordsman alive. He must be a popular figure in the One Piece world, with his picture plastered across newspapers and stuff. How can he just waltz onto a deck of a restaurant populated by sailors, without even getting recognised? That was one major gripe I had with that episode as well. Also, tying up Gin's story and Mihawk's destruction of the fleet was easy to do. We just needed to know that the horror Gin was talking about , was the same horror we saw Mihawk inflicting a few scenes back. The zoro take, erm. Unsure. I think Zoro was made more stoic/edgy/cool to put him as a great foil for Luffy. a contrast. Him being so aloof and cool makes Luffy seem ever more goofy. I'm sure zoro's personality will shine through more as the season's go by. In this retelling, I think Zoro didn't really become part of the crew till the Mihawk duel. Its like his old self died at Hawkeye's hand, and a new Zoro was reborn - the one who swore allegiance to Luffy. This new Zoro, I believe, will be more lighthearted and more himself, not constantly haunted by his past and trying to prove himself to his dead friend. That was just my take on it.
Awesome video man I definitely enjoyed the live action even with some issues I’m still looking forward to season 2 and seeing what they’ll do
Something I love that you touched on is the carnival aesthetic of Arlong Park. It was great especially when you remember from Fishman Island that Arlong based it on Sabaody Park.
I look at the Mihawk bar introduction scene differently, in my opinion it builds him up as even bigger threat and a boogieman, he isn't "oh shit, Mihawk entered the scene, we need to act", he's "oh shit it's too late to act because he's already on the scene and we didn't even know"
Arlong Park having games and stuff is also super cool because if you remember, Along based his base off of Sabaody Park from the Sabaody Archipelago. Since as a child he was never allowed to go there for being a fishman.
Live Action OP let me re-experience One Piece from the start, and that's kinda beautiful in a way