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When Ganon dialed it's not fun to watch. It almost seems like he isn't even trying and and it's going in from 80 period when Macbeth dominated it looked like he was giving every throw all he had Gannon makes it look too easy 😊

I knew Paul as a teenager. He has always had the arrogance of a champion. That type of arrogance in sport is captivating. Gannon is an amazing talent but he's nonchalant and boring to watch.

The PGA Tour was the most popular when Tiger Woods was dominating and people loved watching it. Same when Michael Jordan was winning everything. I disagree about it wasn't exciting... Josh hit it on the head...if you don't appreciate the skill level we are seeing. Ricky was behind by 3 for a long time and if Gannon had one mistake it could have been 1 in an instance...he doesn't miss. We are witnessing an amazing talent.

90 in the PNW today 🥵

Top tier episode

He admitted to steeling the money for 8 yrs. It’s a crime.

While his season is possibly the best of all time, all the talk of Gannon winning the 4 dgpt+ events as some sort of sweep is a little silly. The 2 "playoff" events are 4 rounders as well and are worth more in dgpt points I think. To me there are 3 rounders, 4 rounders, and 5 rounders. I don't care what they call them or if they have a "Major" designation. Strength of field and number of rounds is what matters. He's been amazing but I don't care about him winning all the DGPT+ events.

Chris gave the most useful answers and commentary I’ve ever heard him give him the last three or four years. Good job to get him on.

So JR can use other people’s money to pay his medical bills and if someone else steps in to run the tournament and cover him it’s okay? I dont think you understand what fraud/embezzlement actually is.

Audio is off a lot for Josh. At 23min, we miss his entire sentence. On the podcast, I get times where I can't hear him. Maybe it's time for an updated mic or recording setup?

Great show! Thank you for having Chris Clark on for an informative discussion.

I don't believe Ben Callaway is playing either. So him and Uli are going to have a tough time to get in, even if they both play MVP.

I don’t understand the logic a theft should receive grace because they fall on hard times? Should this apply to crackheads shoplifting the 7/11?

Embezzlement is not a casualty of a declining disc golf market boom. It's a crime. Plain and simple

Great breakdown of the infinite numbers in manufacturer market shares

Discraft Innova discmania prodigy dd are way more prevalent as player pack items and payout vendors. Which stuffs their pockets. Also reflects in sales if players already acquired the discs through tournaments.

Reaching out and diversifying is imoortant, but also, you can lead a horse to water but ya’ can’t MAKE it drink. Putting leagues and tiki courses are important for exposure in general.

Year on year disc sales should be declining. COVID players now have a full bag, backups, and boxes of random discs. Player spending peaks the first 3 years or so.

I own a small disc golf company, and MVP has made me love selling their products. Not only do they have great players promoting their brand, but they also purposefully only sell special runs, stamps, and team stamps on their own site, while retailers get the stock products as well as some special edition discs. Other manufacturers, e.g. Discmania, Dynamic Discs, and Prodigy, not only sell stock items directly but often run huge sales that retailers can’t compete with. As a small retailer, this leaves a bad taste, so I stock and sell fewer of their discs. Instead, I’m focusing more on pushing MVP out into the community, which I believe is making a positive impact. Discraft takes a similar approach to MVP to a lesser extent. Manufactures should take notes

Kristin Tattar was the first player to reach $100K in tournament prize money earnings and previously held the record for the most money earned in a single season, with $116,247. Gannon Buhr has now broken that record and currently stands at $127,132, with several big events still to play.

Uh, “95% of TDs” do this? So embezzlement is just a part of running tournaments? THIS IS A PROBLEM and you guys are misinterpreting condemnation as “dancing on this guy’s grave”… smh

Man I love you guys but it was really hard to listen to you guys during that TD situation segment. The player base got badly burned, not the TD who blamed personal medical reasons for his misappropriation (possibly theft) of 26k of the players money.

Let's say Kristin goes to MVP, Lat64 would still survive because of the European market. DD without Ricky is done, he is the only person that holds that company up, most of their molds are pretty forgettable. Innova will always be at or near the top because they sell to Walmart, Dick's, etc. MVP is becoming the #1 brand in disc golf and it isn't because of who they have signed. It is their plastic, people like the feel, the way it flies, and the ability to switch between plastics of the same mold and know that plasma might be more stable where electron or fission would be more understable. I would argue Kasta is kinda in that same category, people like Kasta because of the plastic not Joey Buckets.

I'm not a businessman by any stretch...but the more I hear about the BS going on at the PDGA + Pro Tour...I could probably do a better job if I had the whole winter to just analyze everything and start fresh in spring...

Badly burned? The TD what about the players? Who wants to sign up for events if u always have a chance to get ripped off?

I’m not sure how this points to a “challenge of being a TD” when the guy had a full event with waitlist participants. The issue was not that his tournament has become less successful post Covid, the issue is that he was spending tournament funds on vending fees and medical bills. It’s fair to say the the lack of disc sales while he was vending is what caused part of the issue, but it’s more so the not working through the winter that seems to have screwed him over. Hope the guy can recover but it’s been odd to see everybody in the good old boys club rationalize his mistakes in various ways. Expected better from this show tbh. Stuff like this will continue to hold our sport back.

Respectable or not this TD actions were criminal, I didn’t work all winter so I used people personal money to fund my life? Don’t think that flies as a defense

Great episode. The TD stole money plain and simple. You both kept throwing out excuses for unacceptable behavior. The PDGA has to ax the magazine completely and put said money to other more important areas in order to make a better product overall. My 2 cents

Wrong… totally beatable by AB, Issac or Eagle…

Can you share the link for the new approved rules for 2025?

Regarding the PDGA magazine, it hasn't been about whether people wanted it. It's been about the advertisers paying enough to make it a net positive, which is what they have said for years. Maybe that isn't the case anymore but they have fielded barrages of accusations of wasting membership dollars while saying the magazine has made money. I think the issue here is that advertisers were wrong to assume people were reading the magazine.

There's a lot of MP40 players that don't pay for memberships.

A more telling number for the PDGA than current membership would be number of players participating in events and total events run. They may get far more revenue from events than membership fees. Or they may have during the boom.

Boys - Definitely no Paul nor Paige Fanboy but honestly ya’ll are trippin if you think Paul and Paige only get 2 or less. Paul played some top golf this season. 2nd at Music City, Swedish Open, European Disc Golf Festival and a 3rd at a major w the European Open. And clearly he has some other things taking some of his attention: wife and newborn, foundation, etc. Boyz - a NEWBORN with limited sleep and major life change. You know why Paul most likely by himself exceeds 2 more wins is because he is a dawg. He is Kobe and MJ mindset. That guy will eventually walk off into the sunset but if his body is there his mind will do everything possible to get some more Ws. Plain and simple. As far as Paige - she won Portland this year which was a + event. FPO field is not nearly as stacked and many times when say Europeans go back home and skip a leg or few events in states field is halved as far as talent. So to say she won’t get another win or two to go with Paul’s possible wins is just bad take. Again Paige has at times taken foot off gas for sure but she’s coming back from injury and I bet she steps game back up next year. Over under 2.5 - I’ll take that over boys especially considering each pro has another 3-5 competitive years left in them a piece. No doubt. Cheers

Kristin has more wins then anyone this year so what r u talking about

it's sad to say paul might not win again but he's throwing the disc just as good as anyone it's his putting that is trash

39:47 LET HIM COOK @josh

Bringing up the presidential debate within 2 minutes...woof

If Calvin closed out the season with repeat wins like that, he'd be player of the year easily. To win consecutive events down the stretch would be more impressive than Gannon's scattered wins.

The 2 playoff events are 4 round events also. They are weighted the same (or higher?) than DGPT+ and are harder to get into.

Kristin is still the clear number 1. 5 wins in 12 events. Not as dominant as last year of course, but looking at the season she has the lowest average finish by a good stretch, has the most wins, and has the least starts of anyone else close. Her 5 wins in 12 events is far more impressive than, for example, Holyn with 3 wins out of 18 events. No doubt she isn't playing as well as last year but still the clear number 1. Still just her in the player of the year conversation. To my mind.

As far as McBeth "hanging it up". I can't imagine he'll be hanging it up anytime soon with that contract. I seriously doubt they gave him 10 million for 10 years without some clauses about him needing to play a certain amount of pro tour events. He's making a lot of money and he can probably make most of the contract money as long as he is out there playing. Even if he doesn't win. Doubt he's gonna turn down that money.

Oh boy. Now Charlie got in a bar fight too?

Here come the Paul is washed takes again. No doubt he will win again. He'll get tired of losing soon and buckle down and grind out a win once he undoubtedly gets tired of the washed takes.

What are you guys going to do when Isaac wins USDGC this year? Will he get jobbed again in the POY vote?

McBeth isn't winning anymore because he is comfortable. He got the bag, got married and has a child now. I guarantee he doesn't practice anymore outside of his practice rounds and some light putting practice in his backyard.

The take about Paul is spot on.

"... an unacceptable to vote - for Calvin ...bec Gannon has done what C did (last season), just a little bit light .." (show receipt,gritty Josh) Clearly, Buhr is POTY this year.

Excellent podcast as usual. I’m amazed that Gannon Buhr taking too long ( multiple times) hasn’t been discussed more.

Charlie we all know you're hiding a black eye with those shades