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How can I learn more about the genetic testing you mentioned?

Vater 5B is all I use. Great sticks.

You rock dude..

I used my Roland KD-7 reverse beater which has a better angle and always worked great with my DW 5000 pedals

I prefer and love the power 3A's try them out,there about 20thousens bigger,and a little top heavy, but like you say,let the,stick do the work😊

Just broke through mine last night. Thought it would last a year at least. Lasted months.

Let me give you all the honest review you need without some cringe content creator making a silly long video instead of answering the simple question. Is it worth it. Short answer No Long answer: it is the best thing for a quiet bass drum on the market. I'll explain. Ths reason no because at the end of the day, you are stomping into the ground so you will make noise regardless. So playing foot techniques, playing with a double pedal and playing those fast songs means that you wasted your money. if you think this is the solution to your problem. So I'll let you decide if that's appropriate for you. For me. I had to cut cardboard out to help level the pedal with the kick pad. I also have a towel wrapped around the pad to make it as quiet as I can. And my family are OK with this and my neighbours are OK with this. And I can play the songs and practise the things I want all ok now. So it's not a waste of money for me. What I think gives this product the edge is that its so much more portable than carrying around any other kick pad.

Scoop of vanilla, scoop of chocolate. Don't waste my time!

AGREED with everything you said. I really wanted to like this product, but nah.

Had the exact same problem too....

Kind of wish I saw this before I ordered mine. I was planning on using an old Pearl Double Pedal I had lying around. It's a cheaper model that came with the first used kit I bought. It has no pedal height or beater angle adjustment. This made it virtually unusable. Technically it worked but the the throw was so short, and the pedal was so high, it wasn't worth using it. Next I tried "The Dualist" pedal. That worked OK for single pedal mode, but not so great for double mode. I thought I might use it for that to try and learn how to use that weird pedal, but since the bounce is not realistic you can't really work on the timing IMHO with the quiet kick. Granted, that's an odd ball pedal. Lastly I put on a DW 5000 single like you used. This was the only pedal I tried that works decent. Honestly I don't care if the beater hits flat. I have mine extended out more than you and it's hitting right on the edge where the bend is. Maybe not ideal but for the short time I used it so far, that doesn't bother me. But I know it shouldn't be like that. I think the basic, simple, idea here is great. But it falls short. If instead of bending at an angle they made it go straight up at a 90 with some side reinforcement, it would be better. And the spikes I can see could be an issue the way they are mounted... An adjustable hinged piece on the end with both foam/rubber for hard surfaces and the carpet spikes would be much better. Or just give it an adjustable lip to mount the pedal. I think less concentration on making it compact and more on a better more universal design. I'm a little disappointed and at the price when you see what you are really getting, not great. Just a matter of time before Amazon has Chinese knock offs somehow skirting any patents that may be in place. These must cost less than $10 to manufacture.

I saw the tour in 1992, in Cincinnati. One of the best shows that I ever saw. Ozzy's band was awesome that night at the late Cincinnati Gardens in the summer of 1992. They also opened with Paranoid, and I Don't Want To Change The World was the 2nd song. Ugly Kid Joe and Faster Pussycat opened. I saw Randy again with Ozzy in Dayton four years later. I recall alot from that show at the Gardens.

Just set mine up on a DW9000 double pedal (Arguably one of the more popular pedal models right?) and it installed pretty well, but the beater is just too long, even all way into the pedal. I have to scoot the practice pad as far as I can out of the mount while still being able to clamp down on it and the beater still just barely hits the bottom of the practice pad. I'm also having the same issue as the commenter with the angle, I also don't have the full throw of the beater. I'm sure I can mess with it and ultimately get it to work, but I was really wow'd by the convenience and quick install factor of this product. Meh. A little disappointed.

Guy looks like Jack Osborne

True Apache warrior,,,, Ozzy luckiest bastard in music industry,,,,hate how the Brits treat people that helps their career,,, Karma a bitch,,its2023,,,, thanks for music Oz but it was the Band that made u,, RIP both Randys

I didn't care for him really..

Red Square Black was kind of an Industrial type sound ala NIN. I think Rudy Sarzo was in that band as well?

Randy was the touring drummer for the Motels in the early eighties.

Emad2 are great bass drum heads

just received mine today and there is a huge problem in the beater design. They didn't design the angle right and/or the device itself is so tall, it prevents the full throw of the beater. You have to stop soo short of vertical! You'll actually be training with bad technique. I'm going to attempt to bend it further to fix the problem. 🤞🤞

Milliliter???? It's mil which means 1000th of an inch.

How's the rim click and rim shot with it?

Thanks for the review! I bought mine in September (during a sale, so it wasn't full price) and I think they made a few changes since the initial release. However, I didn't save my box, so I can't say for certain how the packaging may have changed. Now, they are definitely directing customers to a set-up video (they sent a link in an email after I placed my order). I agree that the QuietKick doesn't work well with all pedals. I tried it first with a Sonor pedal & the beater hit at an angle on the bottom edge of the pad. It's felt OK, but the fact that it wasn't hitting square in the middle of the pad bugged me. It works best with my DW3000 pedal. One of my biggest complaints is with the spurs, which mainly seem to be there to support the pad (which otherwise sits a half-inch off the floor). Ideally, the spurs would be angled so they point to the front, to better prevent the pad from sliding forward. There is definitely room for improvement if they decide to revise the design. They should start by testing the design with several different types of pedal, to be sure that it works with a majority of them.

I had to laugh when your graphic said "ideal for both kinds of music - ROCK AND METAL". That is very funny.

Platinum Drummer!

So glad you enjoy them too, Howard! what a great and detailed review. All the best to you.

There's another doc on Netflix that talks about Randy Castillo called Rumble, it talks abiut Native Americans contribution to Rock

I'm a percussionist as well, when it comes to royal blood, I've been using the vic virth SD1 Generals, and any other song I use 5A sticks

I have that same drum set and I bought an Emad heavyweight, let’s see how it goes

I agree this double live lp is fabulous he goes crazy in between the songs and Brad Gillis went nuts on the guitar and Sarzo and Aldridge are prenominal on it!

Heavy but I started out with 5B Vator so it’s all I use. you make it look easy at higher speeds!

I find this album interesting, but I’ve never been able to fully get into it because 1) ozzys vocals 2) this is not the way these songs are suppose to be played. It’s if Van Halen snuck in and played these songs

Loving your kit man.simple and effective

port your drum head. you are moving air and has no where to go.

itsa shit

Man I got socks older than you!!! That album is badass!!!

Very good summary. Could not agree more with your comments about the "Snowblind" drums. Those big smashes make the song. That's the part when I listen to Vol. 4 that I do the Ozzy V salute in time to those out the car sunroof. Same thing on "Black Sabbath." Tommy is trying to create order and some sense of normal "rock" meter behind those songs but that's not what Sabbath was about. As Ward says himself, "I'm an orchestral drummer." Yes, Aldridge tears it up on "Wizard," "Iron Man," "War Pigs." And some outrageous stuff on "Fairies Wear Boots." But as the years went by I lost all interest in this album. The music just doesn't sound right in the hands of even those exceptional players. It sounds like what it is - a professional hack job done in a hurry to fulfill a contract.

my favorite live album.... the bands take on these songs is amazing. and youre right, as a drummer myself, tommy is on fire during these sets.

This album is my number three favorite Ozzy album... obviously ,number one and two is Randy..

Me too Is my favorite Black Sabbath album song list

I could never look past dude not playing the solos.

I recently purchased a Pearl Reference kit that had an Evans EMAD heavyweight on the 22 x 18 kick. I absolutely love this bass drum head. I have a small pillow inside the bass drum that I use to muffle the reso head. But nothing except the exterior wide ring on the batter. Sounds great. I'm finally getting the bass drum sound that I've been striving for. Keep up the great work! 🥁 ❤

"More polished" comparing the two live albums in a negative way. This guy obviously doesn't understand early Sabbath.

good vid. i've been using Evans Emad for 15 years and it's saved me from putting anything inside a bass drum! i prefer my bass drums to sound like cannons

But are they too light for you?

wtf? You must be using arrow heads for beaters...even Eloy cassagrande's batter would last one set..and he is a animal!

The heavier, wider stick gives me more finger control. I like the Promark marching hickory.

underrated

Good vid! When I was playing in rock and metal bands, I always felt that 3A's were the perfect balance between speed and power, especially at smaller venues when I had to keep up with the rest of the band that cranked it up to 11 - they were the most forgiving. The shorter neck and barrel gave me more power. 5B's and 2B's were too heavy for speed, 5A's and anything smaller just made me feel like a child, not enough power. After my metal days, my go to stick was the Travis Barker signature from Zildjian but I'm going to give the 3A's another go for my retired electronic home drumming :)

The large tip is purely for volume..