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@@wo.k it’s a set from the shadowlands expansion. You get it from reaching 60 renown with the Kyrian Covenant.

@@RyrogWoW thanks for the fast replies homie. hope you are well, happy holidays *edit* been pulling of the quick caps bc of you :P

@@r6ino435 I can definitely do that in the future for sure!

@@TooSickForYa just personal preference. It’s not a huge difference in your dps if you don’t have dagger offhand

@@dukkhamanavar9857 that was for damage rotation purposes. I have a different video that goes over what I do in opener.

@@KalispellBarbell if there is ever an assa rogue in your lobby, he is an easy target to kill. Playing with other rogue specs feels awful in shuffle because of stun drs. And yes, warriors are also no fun. It’s just RNG at the end of the day.

I’d be curious to see how you handle full melee lobbies

Yes, you will feel the global difference with the more haste you have.

Just by playing for a long time. You get used to it after a while. It's just trial and error. If it feels too uncomfortable then don't use that bind.

@@RyrogWoW yeah my problem is just I dont know what should be put on my main binds and what should be put on my shift binds type thing.

@@Logan-my1hb hard to say. Everything is situational. It’s generally good to rotate through your vanishes quickly because you get them back fast but sometimes you want it for the stuns as well. If you’re playing a comp that doesn’t rely on setting things up, then you can aggressively use the vanishes just for the damage. Otherwise, it’s a good idea to save at least one for stun drs when playing with casters.

@@RyrogWoW okay thank you, yeah i was using vanish around stun drs and after it was over it felt like my burst got them to barely half health which felt so inconsistent on landing kills

so you're saying its good most of the time to send another subterfuge even if the target is on stun dr just to soften them up

@@MrJeden in a duel you shouldn’t be going toe to toe versus other classes. Duels play out a lot differently than you would think. As a rogue you basically sit in stealth until you have your cooldowns back. It’s not a very fun play style and feels cheap but it’s how you need to play it to win.

Hmmm, are you holding down W or any other movement keys after you grapple? I've had it happen to me before but it's usually because I try to grapple to another location right afterwards.

@@RyrogWoW Might be, I´ll try to think about that and hopefully it solves it.

@@felixstrandvik886 the pvp cloak talent is coded to get rid of all harmful physical debuffs and the orb debuff counts as a harmful physical debuff. When you play temple make sure you swap that talent to something else :)

what off hand do you use? Dagger?

Depends on how well you understand both specs. The main difference is Outlaw is higher APM which means you'll be doing more overall. In my opinion, outlaw is more difficult than the other specs. But you'll find varying opinions from other rogue players.

Thanks for the question! Caster lobbies are your dream, you can hit anything you want. Any lobby with another rogue or a warrior is not that fun. Full melee lobbies are okay because you get a lot of value out of blade flurry. Generally picking a target is about how well your teammate can hit that target. As outlaw you have no issue hitting anything because of your mobility. Cloth targets are always good to go on. If there is a warlock in the game they will pretty much always be the target. Demo is a bit tankier than the other two lock specs so you have to be aware of that and who their teammate is. Plate targets are the worst target for outlaw to hit because you deal a lot of physical damage. I'd say just focus on hitting Cloth--> Leather ---> Mail ---> Plate. Best targets to hit in general are Locks, Boomies, Ferals, Rogues, Hunters, and Ele. Other than that, just be aware of who has what cooldowns. Anyone can die at any time. If you're cleaving with blade flurry and a target is low that isn't your main target, tab to them and start pumping damage into them. It takes some time to get used to recognizing who is a good target and who has what. Most of it will come with trial and error. But that's the best advice I can give in terms of targeting.

@ really appreciate the write up. Good stuff. I’ll give that modus operandi a go One more q; in your experience going up against a comp where you really want both dismantle and improved Cloak, do you drop enduring brawler or bones haste? Or is dismantle not so necessary?

I have similar issue, I mostly feel it’s my fault for losing a round. Yeah, sometimes teammates fail hard, but it seems that if I play well, don’t delay, CC properly - I win. Yet if I get tunnel vision (which I still often do) and miss my CCs in crucial moments - it’s gg. Outlaw feels like a hard carry that wins games if played right and loses otherwise, cuz damage is quite low in comparison.

Overall yes, outlaw enables your team to perform well while assa only provides damage and spread pressure. Assa is an easy target to kill and outlaw is a bit more tanky due to CDR on evasion and more frequent vanishes.

@@EndieM8 Thank you and yes, next video will be arena!

@@MrJeden orc for the stun reduction racial. Im not sure if there are any other good races on horde side

@RyrogWoW its so weird that Blizzard still dont removed all racials.. theres a reason 99% rogues play NE.. almost every class is superior on alliance side.. i think its so dumb

If you use the Catalyst in Dornogal you can change a piece of PvP gear to tier. All conquest PvP gear scales to 639 ilvl

There are 3 reasons to use killing spree. It's all situational. It's a great defensive, offensive, and utility based spell. Defensively, if you are about to take big damage, use it to delay the damage you take (Ele shaman pressing ascendance). Offensively, use it when you can get cleave value out of it with blade flurry. Utility, you can use it to get out of roots. If you're using it to get out of a root don't worry about how many combo points you're spending. Never use it when you have subterfuge up.

​​@@RyrogWoWOh so its never gonna be used in purely single target dps ? Better to way for defensive cd or get closer to him?

@@MrJeden No, you can use it offensively to try and kill your target too but you are likely to get cc'd out of the killing spree anyways if you're playing against good players.

@@RyrogWoW ty m8

In my next video I will try to go over these things. But to summarize shortly, outlaw is offensive and high APM. Prioritize high uptime to maintain buffs and cc healer as much as you can without ruining DRs.

The only thing likely to be nerfed is the spawn timer of the flags and not the actually mobility of the class.

Thistle tea doesn't make sense to me. I know some people play the talent. With the build I'm playing there is no energy issues and the mastery you get from it doesn't add much in terms of damage because the mastery is proc based and the buff doesn't last that long.

@@RyrogWoW also one more question but ive noticed many outlaws no longer taking combat stamina isnt that a huge buff why are we not taking it anymore?

@@zoorendous7244 You can drop it for something else if you never get targeted. It's a great defensive buff to have but not completely necessary if you know you aren't the target.

Hard to say without know what the macro has in it. If you post it, I might be able to fix it.

@@RyrogWoW /cast adrenaline rush /cast roll the bones That's it

oh, I know why. It has nothing to do with the macro. It has to do with fatebound coins. When you use adrenaline rush it will flip both sides of the coin. If you are near someone while in stealth, adrenaline rush will deal damage to the nearby player and break you out of stealth. So avoid using it near other players while you’re in stealth. But I would also suggest making separate binds for both abilities. There are times when you may not want to re roll your buffs and just use adrenaline rush by itself.

@@RyrogWoW thanks

@@RyrogWoWhey bro, fellow outlaw here. I’ve been using this AR macro for a few weeks now and it seems to be serving me well. Helps not having to worry about de-targeting while in stealth. /cleartarget [stealth,nocombat] /use [stealth,nocombat][nostealth]Adrenaline Rush /targetlasttarget [stealth,nocombat] Out of stealth it functions just like regular AR, but in stealth and out of combat it will clear target for the split second you use AR so the coin proc won’t pop you. Hope this helps!

I'm pressing it before I go into stealth. So blade flurry --> adrenaline rush --> stealth --> roll the bones

@@XscytDon’t worry about the buffs you have. People use weak auras for both PvE and PvP that tells you if your roll is bad, ok, or good. These weak auras are unnecessary in my opinion because it’s just clutter on the screen. Recognizing when to re-roll is as simple as: Your roll is about to expire, you want to give your teammates haste, or you only have one active buff.

@@RyrogWoW alright, thanks...I still need some reminders atm but I keep them as anti-clutter as possible. My UI is pretty clean now but these small things help..I make most of my WAs myself as simple as possible

oh and btw: Why don't you use a dagger in the offhand? Fatal flourish is better this way right? Or is it style only :D?

@@Xscyt I've heard it's a minimal dps increase. About .005%. So I don't really bother getting it. The build I use doesn't really need the extra energy you would potentially get from fatal flourish anyways.

@@thefreindlywolf it should automatically do it if you’re talented into “Audacity” in the outlaw tree.

@@TheQQWIN I currently don’t stream. I might in the future. My twitch is Ryrog1

Depends on what you're fighting but more often than not you will kill dps and cc healer. Some healers like Rsham can be killed easily. It's important to swap between the targets when you have no stun drs for your main target. For example if you just triple stunned your kill target and the healer has no drs for stun, switch over to the healer and stun and do damage to them.

Whats the general stun rotation for Rogue om healers? In mid combat, do i gague healer and then stun dps target ? Any cool tricks i can do with cc? What the best use of Vanish offensive?

@@MrJeden Generally always send Kidney shot on the healer. Grapple over and kidney and grapple back to dps. Gouge healers when there are no dots which happens very rarely. For the dps you just cheap three times and weave in your between the eyes between every cheap if you can. You pretty much always use your vanish offensively to cheap and spam between the eyes.

@@RyrogWoW ty ! So i cant Vanish and then zap ? Blind is good to use also i guess

@@MrJeden You can vanish sap in rare occasions. You just have to know when the blinded target drops combat. If you kidney and blind after you would be able to sap off the blind.

Who? All outlaw rogues in both regions are playing Fatebound.

I usually try to reroll when I have about 5-10 seconds left on the buffs. When you reroll at this duration your next roll lasts about 38 seconds which is longer the original roll is (30 seconds). If you have good buffs keep them as long as possible. Try not to reroll just for the haste bonus if you have good buffs.

Awesome! GGs :D

Generally you'll always want to use your fan the hammer procs as they come up to fill your combo points. If it only gives you 5 combo points don't worry about using another global to get more combo points. You can just use BTE in that scenario. Your ambush and sinister strike extra hits are what is giving you the pistol shot procs. If you have just used your pistol shot proc, you will have access to ambush which should be used as soon as possible. I hope that answers your question.