Learning Sharp
Learning Sharp
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Degreasing India/arkansas stones
Introduction to stone degreasing. Not the best or most detailed video. But how much is there to it really? Lol
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Видео

Natural arkansas stones
Просмотров 2373 года назад
Just a quick video on some new natural arkansas stones I’m getting into. Showing the stones and they’re beauty. (Sorry for the horrible filming )
Applying stropping compound
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Applying 3 different types of strop compounds to 3 different substrates.
Make your own diamond spray
Просмотров 8 тыс.3 года назад
This is a quick video showing how easy it is to make you own diamond spray. 1.5 micron diamond -EBay $8 1 mason jar 2 ounce spray bottles 5 pack - EBay $8 1 bottle of water
K390 hair whittling
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Just some footage of hair whittling with k390. As we all know I’m terrible at camera work and this was he’s to pick up haha
Shapton glass stones
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A quick look at the 320,1000,3000 shapton glass stones. I wanted to see how fast I could put a good working edge on a super abused kitchen knife. Very impressed with these stones
Stropping tips!
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Just a quick video on some tips to get started stripping g and know you are being effective
Sharpening area
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Quick video of my sharpening/work area. Nothing special. But we all love seeing this kinda stuff. Well at least I do lol!
How to make a leather strop
Просмотров 5764 года назад
This is a quick tutorial on the supplies needed and how to assemble a leather sharpening strop. 12”x12” 8/9 ounce thick veg tan cow hide Weld wood contact cement 2.5” wide pine board Utility knife These supplies will help make a strop that will last a very long time and the supply’s can be purchased for $20 or so and make up to 6 strops this size
Introduction to abrasives
Просмотров 5184 года назад
This a quick video on some of the basic abrasives that are out there and how they perform and should be maintained. Later on I will get into videos on specific abrasives.
M390 manix 2 sic edge
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Tonite we sharpened a spyderco manix 2 in m390. One of my favorite all around steels. Sic stones 240,1200 and a plain cowhide flesh side strop. I gotta work on a better camera view. Sorry about parts being out of frame I’m trying. Thanks for watching!!
Barrage hair whitling
Просмотров 1184 года назад
This is the barrage we just sharpened to 2200 diamond and 3 micron diamond emulsion. Hair whittling sharp
Benchmade barrage diamond plates
Просмотров 1,2 тыс.4 года назад
Sharpening a mini barrage in 154cm on 400/1200 and 2200 best sharpening stones ultra sharp diamond plates. And 3 micron gunny juice diamond emulsion
King neo 800 simple edge
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.4 года назад
Quick and simple edge 1 stone and 1 strop. King neo 800 and 0.5 micron gunny juice polycrystalline emulsion. S30v manix. It doesn’t take a ton of stones and equipment to make nice working edges
King neo 800 cut test
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A more in frame follow up cut test of the king neo 800 and 0.5 emulsion edge
Strops
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Strops
Let’s learn sharp
Просмотров 1944 года назад
Let’s learn sharp

Комментарии

  • @Knifesharpindia-1361
    @Knifesharpindia-1361 2 месяца назад

    The biggest problem I am having right now with this exact solution ( water + micron powder) is that once the water dries on the leather strop, the Diamond particles do not stay fixed on the leather, they start pooling up on my knife edge instead of remaining fixed on the strop.

  • @sryslyuguys
    @sryslyuguys 2 месяца назад

    How does this stone hold up to chosera 800 and shapton pro 1k/ glass 500 in hardness and feedback? Does it load up?

  • @jasonedwardledburynewzeala9897
    @jasonedwardledburynewzeala9897 2 месяца назад

    Is there an alternative degreaser to the dawn degreaser? I am in New Zealand and we don't have dawn here.

  • @eco4tree
    @eco4tree 3 месяца назад

    My only question: you have spread diamonds all over your place + sprayed into the air you breathe micron size diamonds which will never leave your lungs…do you do it at home or some separate place? I like the idea but don't want to breathe in the diamonds.

    • @DylanC-d5d
      @DylanC-d5d 15 дней назад

      Diamonds are pure carbon and inert. Obviously your body can't dissolve or absorb diamond, though unless one is regularly breathing in a ton of diamond particles your body will absolutely expel them via the mucus membranes and excretory system IF it's working properly. If not, there can be some complications sometimes. Examples: -Swallowed and/or Inhaled diamond dust- Can irritate the gastrointestinal tract Can cause allergic skin reactions, serious eye damage, and genetic defects Can damage organs through prolonged or repeated exposure 🥴 -Diamond nanoparticles- Can be toxic to some cell types, including endothelial cells Can reduce proliferation in fast-dividing cells And, Their toxicity depends on the cell type and the level of exposure 😵 It's certainly proper procedure to wear PPE (respirator and safety glasses) when actively grinding, honing, and polishing metals to help prevent any breathing issues or scratched corneas 👁👁 This is especially true when working with sand or silicon carbide particles as those are not just a simple inert molecule like diamonds... Silica/Silicon dust can be deadly via something called silicosis when inhaled in large amounts over an extended period of time or on an ongoing basis 😷 Alumina/Aluminum Oxide can also be toxic/poisonous as aluminum can interfere with the signaling in your nervous system and more 😬 Just be sure to work in a well ventilated area, wearing the proper PPE whenever doing a lot of sharpening or during any metal stock removal like grinding. And stay on top of the clean up of any dust surrounding the working area with a damp cloth to prevent re-suspending those particles back in the air with movement. As those can then possibly end up accidentally inhaled much later, even after finishing the project and removing PPE 🌬🍃👨‍🔬 Hope that helps, stay informed, stay sharp, and stay safe 🔪😁 --🧿 Norse-Druid Blade-Alchemist of Michigans' Mitten 🗡🥼🧤

    • @eco4tree
      @eco4tree 15 дней назад

      @@DylanC-d5dwhat I read about micro particles is that if the particle is less than 10 micron it may get into your lungs and there is a big chance it will never leave them. Some even smaller particles like 0.25 or 1 micron may get into blood vessels through lungs. And you never know where they will end up. Diamons and CBD particles are “sharp” which makes it easy for them to cut into your body and stay there irritating and causing issues. Unlike mineral or rock wool particles diamonds are inert and pretty strong so they cannot be dissolved, broken down or caught by immune system. Of course it’s a question of number of particles you breathe in and time of exposure.

  • @Pollyanna-cc3et
    @Pollyanna-cc3et 4 месяца назад

    Made in Spain 8" German cooks knife, French knives are narrow...

  • @101skills.
    @101skills. 4 месяца назад

    What micron is the white and green chromium oxide?

  • @douubledog4008
    @douubledog4008 5 месяцев назад

    At around 19 minutes in, while you're cleaning the glass, you appear to have an issue with flattening/cleaning the stone. I'm having this exact issue, whereby it just does not clean in the same as a normal ceramic stone. Furthermore, when I use the cleaning stone on the ceramics afterwards, it leaves huge white streaks (from the shapton glass stones) Did you find a better or another way to clean and flatten the glass stones? I'm thinking about ditching the glass stone route becuase they're just too much effort, on many levels...

  • @EddieSwing
    @EddieSwing 6 месяцев назад

    Is that about a Teaspoon of Compound?

  • @stancreech43
    @stancreech43 6 месяцев назад

    Great information thank you

  • @timothyaldrich4926
    @timothyaldrich4926 8 месяцев назад

    was wondering if you knew how to make the spray into like a paste you can use syringe

    • @thomasfranz2572
      @thomasfranz2572 7 месяцев назад

      I guess you could use a thickener like xanthan gum

  • @iroironman9115
    @iroironman9115 9 месяцев назад

    I want to Ask do they hawe difrent diamond duag or they all same.. becouse i find menu variants os diamond dus so what you recomented

  • @dombond6515
    @dombond6515 10 месяцев назад

    What I can make this

  • @TimJohnson-x1o
    @TimJohnson-x1o 10 месяцев назад

    ofc the feedback is going to feel different on the tiny vs full size stone. the 3k glass full size is an excellent intermediate stone. One of the best for sure. But yes, it's extremely hard and barely releases any grit. It wears very slow. Still it clearly cuts faster than a chosera 3k. The chosera leaves a nicer finish and is just better to use on wide bevels though.

  • @benfogarty535
    @benfogarty535 11 месяцев назад

    Do you use soap in your water?

    • @TimJohnson-x1o
      @TimJohnson-x1o 10 месяцев назад

      no. there is no need for that and it can damage the binder in some waterstones. It only makes sense for something like an oil stone. s

  • @dominiquebossis797
    @dominiquebossis797 11 месяцев назад

    Good morning, Do you think it works on a NANOCLOTH from JENDE? Is this emulsion cleanable just with water? THANKS... (Google traduction)

  • @paulbraga4460
    @paulbraga4460 11 месяцев назад

    thank you so very much...blessings

  • @trumanhw
    @trumanhw Год назад

    NOTES FROM VIDEO ON STROP: EB User: Springfield Leather Co on "FLEA-BAY" ... Select: 8/9 oz leather in size 24" x 12" (no 12 x 12 option rn) Sugg.: Make a lanyard with the strip from the edge beveling tool.

  • @trumanhw
    @trumanhw Год назад

    *Good search terms for raw ingredients:* diamond lapidary micron powder

  • @darylfortney8081
    @darylfortney8081 Год назад

    Scribble the stone with a pencil before flattening to see how flat it is

  • @darylfortney8081
    @darylfortney8081 Год назад

    Shapton are absolutely the best stones on the market

    • @yuxuansun8271
      @yuxuansun8271 10 месяцев назад

      Sounds like you’ve not much used anything else😂

    • @TimJohnson-x1o
      @TimJohnson-x1o 10 месяцев назад

      @@yuxuansun8271 exactly. they are excellent stones but generalized statements like that are utterly useless. Some of them are the best, some of them are duds. Even in the same line of stones. also. a lot of varies by personal preference and also use case. What are you using it for? For wide bevels like traditional Japanese knives, Shaptons are 100% not even close to the best. The pro series is extremely hard and wears extremely slowly which means it's has very low friability. Great for edges. Not so great for wide bevels. But again, there are exceptions. The 220 and 320 from the pro line use a SIC abrasive unlike the others and thus they can cut any kind of steels with ease, BUT, they are very friable and can be very muddy stones. The other pro stones are the opposite, among the least friable stones on the market. The stones used in this video are excellent. 320 and 1k are two of the best.

    • @EmilioBarnaby
      @EmilioBarnaby 10 месяцев назад

      Suehiro and anything else

    • @TimJohnson-x1o
      @TimJohnson-x1o 10 месяцев назад

      @@EmilioBarnaby suehiro makes a lot of high quality stones. for sure. but you can't easily get most of the best ones in the US and it will cost a large premium.

    • @closeaus88
      @closeaus88 7 месяцев назад

      Naniwa and suehiro are ages better

  • @fredp1983
    @fredp1983 Год назад

    Im wondering the results youve had?

  • @chadrudolph1596
    @chadrudolph1596 Год назад

    I have used the light gray King Deluxe 300 splasher for years. Looks and behaves very similar to the King Neo 800 sharpening vids. I believe the King primer grey splashers are all the same formula, but different grits; King Deluxe 300, King Deluxe 400, King Neo 800. Conclusion is based on brand, color, looks, splash-n-go, speed, hardness, user reviews, data from MTC Kitchen and official King MATSUNAGA.... The model names, Deluxe or Neo, are irrelevant, just marketing. Consensus says that King Deluxe 300 leaves a 500-600 grit finish. So not sure if the grits are even that different.

    • @sryslyuguys
      @sryslyuguys 2 месяца назад

      It's interesting you say this, because the 300 deluxe is an extremely hard stone, whereas the 800 neo is described as being much softer. I am sure they use similar abrasives however

  • @TimJohnson-x1o
    @TimJohnson-x1o Год назад

    i think on that first stone what you meant to say is this is a rebranded Norton Ascent ceramic stone and it's a gimmick like everything else SC does. cheers.

  • @RubricoA.
    @RubricoA. Год назад

    What ratio (grams : ml) in order to have maximum cutting effect ?

  • @sharpwhits0167
    @sharpwhits0167 Год назад

    We want more videos, Joe!

  • @steverochon1620
    @steverochon1620 Год назад

    What is the nameof the kitchen supply store you mentioned? It sounded like NTC Kitchen Supply, but I found nothing online for that name.

  • @dudetesla
    @dudetesla Год назад

    do you put soap in your water? why?

  • @jeffhicks8428
    @jeffhicks8428 Год назад

    I'm not surprised those rip off little stones had a lip. Lotta folks selling that crap cut it themselves. Folks make such a killing selling this crap. You buy industrial diamond powder and make water or oil based spray or paste which then sells for literally 100x and up sort of margin. 50 cents of materials sold for up to $50.

  • @jeffhicks8428
    @jeffhicks8428 Год назад

    I dont think you need to learn how to switch hand. You have way better skills than most folks, even most folks who make and post videos like these. I see so many terrible whetstone sharpening videos and morons are losing their nuts in the comments heaping praise onto some bum that barely has the ability to get a sharp edge at all, and makes tons of serious errors in the process which will over time cause serious issues like changing the edge profile and whatnot. You can easily tell from watching you that you are quite proficient in your technique. Being ambidextrous would be cool, amazing, but it's a bonus, clearly not something that's necessity. I find a lot of the attention seekers who claim to have mastered that switching hands actually really can't do it, not well enough to where it's even worth trying.

  • @jeffhicks8428
    @jeffhicks8428 Год назад

    I'm gonna just be blunt. Only EDC bro retards would even considering buying some dumb ass next to useless other than maybe for a razor spidershitco stone. Like what? EDC bros will just buy anything if it says spidernuts on it huh? Spidercuck branded chastity lock. I'm in. Cmon dude. Spiderco sells over priced and butt ass ugly knives to morons who don't even know how to use or maintain a knife and think the difference between fucking vg10 or d2 is what makes a good pocket knife. Just dumb dumb dumb shit. Like past a certain point, steel is one of the least important things. And among the properties of steel for bladed tools the one aspect which is by far the least important overall is the one thing these morons most hyper-focus on, durrrrrrr edge retention durrrrr. Yeah abrasive resistance. Sure, I'd like my tiny little fucking 3" pecker folder to have decent wear resistance too. Makes sense. But literally everything else about the steel actually matters more, just objectively, and especially when you're fucking comparing some stupid shit like s30v to s45v like the difference in abrasive resistance between these two steels is some critical fucking factor. Cmon man. Most of the retards that buy this overpriced stupid shit don't even know how to sharpen a knife. Which is probably why they're so obsessed with durrrr edge retention durrrrr. Fuck man I hate EDC bros. Fucking little boys ruin everything that's kinda cool. Guns? You can't even talk about guns cuz every video game addicted little fucking gnat that's never shot a gun in their life has something to say like they're a fucking guru because they play shooter video games 4 hours a day of their worthless lives. Sidenote, shapton glass are excellent premium home use splash and go stones. Especially for stainless steels. I wouldn't bother using anything above the 500 once you get up into 10v class steels tho. Don't bother., I also wouldn't bother using any of them to finish a razor. Not good. Unless you have a stainless straight razor, maybe that would be okay with the 16k, but IDK I don't own any stainless razors.

  • @jeffhicks8428
    @jeffhicks8428 2 года назад

    Well yeah buddy. Folks with good marketing are making a killing selling the stuff. You buy the raw industrial diamonds, mix it with either water or oil based, and sell it to EDC bro geniuses for 100x mark. I don't like or suggest spray tho. I find the oil based stuff works great on wood and leather. I find that diamond on wood seems to finish much finer than stones at the same grit. 2 to 3 micron diamond on wood seems to finish finer than even the finest sub micron finishing stones I have. And it cuts very very aggressively. That made me question the need for anything too fine, because you can get this stuff easily down to a tenth of a micron. Ive been using that for razors but Im questioning if it's beneficial. Get some wood, sand it down with like 220 grit or so. I woudn't go finer than 320. then I load high concentration diamond in oil. Trying felt and other stuff too, seems good for razors. If using denim or linen the spray will be needed, otherwise avoid spray

    • @Therapistinthewhitehouse
      @Therapistinthewhitehouse Год назад

      great info, thanks. Do you have any further recommendations to add since you posted this comment? Just out of interest, I’m going to try different carriers and substrates, such as baby oil, hand sanitiser gel (there’s loads of that leftover since COVID-19) and beeswax. I think the sanitiser is gloopy enough to hold the diamonds in suspension pretty well and it evaporates fast and the beeswax should hold diamonds into the grain of leather, denim, felt etc.

    • @jeffhicks8428
      @jeffhicks8428 Год назад

      @@Therapistinthewhitehouse I suggest mineral oil. tiny bit. on wood substrate. but go ahead, have a field day. there is no right way or wrong way. only what works or doesn't work. the only wrong move is getting scammed buying 70 cents of diamonds for $70 from edc bro retail stuff like gunny juice. as long as you dont do that, you're good. For $70 you can literally order a milk jug of the stuff in 50% diamond concentration. I dont use anything too funky if the knives are going to be used on food but for outdoors knives you can use different kinds of oils. wd40. whatever.

    • @Therapistinthewhitehouse
      @Therapistinthewhitehouse Год назад

      @@jeffhicks8428 Thanks for the reply. Because it's going to get on my hands the most toxic I was considering would be baby oil (is that what they call mineral oil in the US?) I use that on my plates now and it's easy to clean up and safe to have on my hands for extended periods. I'm looking online and considering which grits to buy. They're so cheap I think I'll get several just to play around with, say 2k, 4k, 6k, 8k and 10k. Speaking of rip-offs, I'd like some resin-bonded plates but the price for a full set is extortionate. Have you heard about anyone who's made their own resin-bonded plates? I'm tempted to give it a try and make a few course grits (200, 400 and maybe 800 grit) for my fixed geometry system.

  • @nor4277
    @nor4277 2 года назад

    Does anyone no if you can use diamond spray and the wax componds together on the same strop.

    • @wayneholmes637
      @wayneholmes637 Год назад

      You can, who is going to stop you? However the visible results will be from the coarsest of the two. So pretty much pointless. If you need more compounds you also need more strops. Don't mix them around.

    • @nor4277
      @nor4277 Год назад

      @wayneholmes5786 I added the diamond compound too because the wax compond didn't do much , plus I am leaning ,to strop, I bought a Lasky sharpener too ,then I bought a works electric knife sharpener hasn't used it yet ,there a learning curve hereI was asking for imput from people who are better then me

    • @ICheat_ILie_ISteal
      @ICheat_ILie_ISteal Год назад

      Take diamond powder and green powder and mix it 50/50.

  • @Naddan49
    @Naddan49 2 года назад

    Nice job. I was afraid you were not going to give your opinion on the Gunny Juice over the lapidary diamond powder. I'll have to pick up some of that from Gritomatic. Tried making my own strop from Lapidary powder years ago but it just sat on top all powdery and I hated the draw of the strop. I've tried Jende, but that dries out over time. Does the Gunny Juice dry out once you open the bottle?

    • @davestelling
      @davestelling 4 месяца назад

      I just picked up some of the "Stroppy Stuff" in 4 micron. Considerably less than the ol' standby Gunny Juice - but, seems we get what we pay for these days. We'll see....

  • @nietztsuki
    @nietztsuki 2 года назад

    New subscriber here. Like your channel. Which sic stone do you prefer, the Gritomatic series or the King Nano? Thanks, Forrest

  • @darshankumardave7485
    @darshankumardave7485 2 года назад

    Progression?

  • @Growth-GrindSet
    @Growth-GrindSet 2 года назад

    Have you considered using mineral oil? You’ed get a less waste that way cus it would make a more uniform stream.

  • @zzemi99
    @zzemi99 2 года назад

    Great video, thanks. How much powder?

    • @prairieedgeservice
      @prairieedgeservice 2 года назад

      He identified in the video, the vial is 25 caret weight of diamond = 5 grams of diamond powder.

  • @chadrudolph1596
    @chadrudolph1596 3 года назад

    03:02 Where did he mention green silicon carbide in the vid? Is the King Neo line made with green silicon carbide? Which binder?

    • @TimJohnson-x1o
      @TimJohnson-x1o Год назад

      it's not really a line. it's just 1 stone. but it comes in different formats like on the stand or standalone in the case and whatnot. There are 4 versions of it. ST-1 to ST-4. The only difference is the base vs no base, and the size and thickness. They make a giant one that's ST-3 which is more than twice the thickness and larger surface size also.

  • @mfestudio1
    @mfestudio1 3 года назад

    I have this stone, I really like its texture

  • @nirhaber6149
    @nirhaber6149 3 года назад

    Are they good for straight razor honing?

    • @TimJohnson-x1o
      @TimJohnson-x1o 10 месяцев назад

      Both of these are more course than anything you'd need for a straight razor. and no at the very high grit end these are not good for straight razors. Straight razors are made from extremely easy to grind carbon or low alloy steels whereas these stones are made for chromium steels. There is another line of glass stones called the HC, these are the HR. The HC is more suitable. But I still wouldn't go for that. Naniwa Super stones are hands down the best razor stones in the world. The 12k is like magic, it's that good. and not just for razors. All you'd ever need is 2 stones. The 12k is a must. The other stone, there are many options. Two of the best are the 4k shapton glass or the 3k Naniwa chosera. That right there is all anyone would need to do anything to a razor, other than strops.

  • @mfreeman313
    @mfreeman313 3 года назад

    Nicely done video. I agree that burr removal can be tricky and I'm learning to slow down and really check that it's completely gone. Some of your traditional sharpness tests won't reveal that you've got some left. And not to pile on but I'm most interested in that stone! I had no idea that King had this line, and no idea that there was such a thing as green silicon carbide that was harder than the black. Seems like a real bargain compared to the other high-performance stones for the harder steels. I don't have anything crazy hard but I certainly have a few Japanese kitchen knives in the low to mid-60s Rockwells and a number of folders in D2 so this is very interesting news. BTW hear ya on the minimalist approach. I started out long ago with a carbon-steel utility 6-incher from the supermarket and the bottom of a coffee mug and did that for many, many years. I've upped my game since then but still don't see why you have to make a big production out of sharpening a knife. : )

    • @chadrudolph1596
      @chadrudolph1596 3 года назад

      Where did he mention green silicon carbide in the vid?

  • @jhen8633
    @jhen8633 3 года назад

    Hey hey hey I recognize that 3k shapton stone! Haha I love using it, it's been used well since I got it from you

  • @Im2slick
    @Im2slick 3 года назад

    I just did an old goodwill find case Xx last night on a shapton 320 and deburred with a plain piece of leather belt also from goodwill. It would pop hairs And let me tell you it eats cardboard like crazy.

  • @Firefoxtony
    @Firefoxtony 3 года назад

    Awesome thanks mate. Can I ask the difference between poly and mono diamonds actually are without all the sales stuff they tell you? And also does this give a toothy edge? Could you please make a video to show a sort of sharp knife before and after stroping with this and show the polish and also bite that it gives if you could? I was thinking about gunny juice but now I've seen your video I'm not sure. Thanks so much mate!

    • @paulwin9036
      @paulwin9036 2 года назад

      late but the guy behind stroppy stuff made a video on the topic. tldw, it won't matter with the pressures you use for stropping.

  • @billybastar4022
    @billybastar4022 3 года назад

    Thanks for the post. What do you use to lube the stone?

    • @closeaus88
      @closeaus88 7 месяцев назад

      He actually uses seamen

  • @bamafaninky861
    @bamafaninky861 3 года назад

    So how did these two stones clean up? Hope things are going well. Miss your videos.

  • @michaelshults7675
    @michaelshults7675 3 года назад

    Have you tried the Ultra Sharp 600 and the 1200? Edit: looks like I should have watched the whole thing before I commented, lol. I see you used the 1200. I read something that these plates are coarser than Dmt, and better in quality. DMT ain't what they used to be.. so roughly what would you say the 1200 ultra sharp finish is like to a Dmt? Roughly closer to 600 than to a 1200? Thanks Mike

  • @michaelshults7675
    @michaelshults7675 3 года назад

    Man that sound like a xcDmt. Have You tried the 600 ultra sharp?

  • @kendalja78
    @kendalja78 3 года назад

    Very cool and straight to the point!

  • @bamafaninky861
    @bamafaninky861 3 года назад

    On your primitive cut take the leg of a pair of pants and fill about 1/2 way with rice and sew up the end. The rice will flatten as needed to level the stone. I wanted a primitive but only have one good arm and was afraid I would drop the stone Jesse is a stand up guy. Great looking set of stones. Thanks for sharing.

    • @learningsharp1836
      @learningsharp1836 3 года назад

      Thanks man. I will give that a try. I like the wood stand I made for now though.