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Lucy's E makes it so that you can quick assist after it, so that way i can have Nekomata get her 60% dmg from her core skill during a stun, so that her ult gets that 60% dmg increase

Caesar is mainly here to give huge buffs to Nekomata, and to get the stun faster too, but I still prefer to have Nekomata on the field

ye, can see the investment in the description

Pretty much same, i first didn't wanted to pull for her, but then i saw how could she could make Nekomata work, so i had to

Caesar's utility is that crazy i agree, i wish we could have 2 for both teams. And pretty muc same, lost my 50/50 on Qingyu to Rina, so i had guarenteed Caesar, and managed to get her early so i was happy Also the song is Maiden & Spell Original Soundtrack - 宝石箱 ～ The Wyrms Jewelbox, i always forget to put the song name in the description

I tried swapping out my m6 Lucy with m4 Nicole on the last shiyu, and both were similar, with Nicole doing more dmg during the stun compared to Lucy, who I was doing more dmg with, before the stun. So yeh Nicole would do well

Caesar makes it way easier and comfier, no need to worry about taking too much damage or getting interrupted (I wish we could have 2 Caesar for both teams)

based on what he said in description, looks like yea

ye i am, i want to go for caesar + her engine, would be huge, and prob gonna replace nicole with her in that comp

It's not even a challenge, it's just plain fun. It makes the Torment an actual Torment. Malding is just gambling.

Definitely not for this raid

@@AsianRailgun okay? Then XD

Is not Meta since Mika is Made for Yellow Armor Raids and this Torment Binah is Blue the meta DPS for this Binah is Wakamo.

Bruh. She can't deal much damage here meta or not. Give him a slack.

@@sagiridesu7230 it joke sir

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i think my units have the right build tho, ellen both work with woodpecker set and the ice set (but i have better substats on woodpecker)

I mean neko, piper, Nicole

@@Renkay141 can also work, but i'm not a huge fan of piper with nekomata, as both nekomata and piper wants to be on field, but overall you can still make it work if you run nekomata with 4pc fanged metal (physical disk) so that you can do some big dmg with her E and maybe play neko less on field and more burst with her E

@TheTornade33 I have nekomata as well! And I'm thinking of running hr build. I hav3 Lucy too. So I think ima copy right over with double support for massive damage. 😅

​@@TheTornade33I main Ellen, zhu, anton. Hust trying to see what I can do for my physical team, i like both Billy and neko. Tyvm 😊

@@Renkay141 always nice to have different choices indeed!

She gets a short window after perfect dodging or quick assisting into combat that cuts down her charge time significantly

Uploader also has C1 Ellen so gets 3 stacks without needing to hold the charge

Like kizu mentionned, Mindscape 1 makes it so a quick charged attack gives 3 stacks instead of 1, so i don't really need to hold charge attack anymore

Zhu yuan lol but if you want ice and have lycaon, soukaku m6 can take matter into her own hand and actually deal quite impressive dmg

@@18-HuỳnhGiaHuy Oh, that's nice to know then, I'm glad I pulled for Zhu Yuan a few before her banner ended

​@@riesterial zhu yuan is top tier, she has a bit more burst damage than ellen i think

@@ElCabra91 Yes, I agree. It's just I don't have a dps for a ice team with challenges that's ice on first round and ether on second lmao. Will definitely be saving poly for Ellen rerun

@@ElCabra91 I am also wondering if I could pull for Jane Doe and put her as dps for an ice team while I wait for Ellen Joe. I have 15268 poly and 10 etapes, about 105 pulls but I don't know if I should try pulling because I want to guarantee that I get Ellen on her rerun.

Impair 4 times is 1 million dmgs. Any dps can do that.

you kinda don't want to stun that much with nekomata because you want to proc her core passive as much as possible (+60% dmg for 6secs after a dodge). Maybe if you have Nekomata as M1 with her engine, you'd prefer a stunner, but lucy+nicole just feels so good with nekomata and probably going to be the best team with her for a long time

@@TheTornade33 Do you think Amillion would be a strong choice given the relative lack of stun windows for Bangvolver to build anomaly in?

@@Sam-up4ul i also tried Amillion, it works really well too but i really like Bangvolver's chain attack and i have him at 3 stars

you don't really need a stunner unless you're playing zhu yuan

Sorry for the late reply, but yeah Anby is just here to generate daze during counters and using her E as much as possible to stun fast. Don't think it's worth to put Nicole in that team, tho i did raised and used Nicole in my Nekomata comp, and she works perfectly there!

The strategy (at least from my own experiences and how most players are playing) seems to be parrying as the primary generator of daze. Playing your stunner exclusively and then swapping to your support and attack characters once the enemy is dazed seems to deal less DMG than just staying on a character and then switching out in response to a parriable attack

neko+lucy for all of my clears

@@TheTornade33 oh thx!

i feel like it's hard to correctly use rising the flag agaisnt this floor as you have to dodge quite a lot, so here i'm mainly skill issued i guess. my main focus is trying to stun the boss as fast as possible while doing as much dmg with Ellen

How do you know the buff isnt transfering in the swap? Whats a timestamp where they swapped early i didnt know thats a thing

​@@Kai-lj1fx 4:30 as example, i think there were other cases too, you can see how soukaku gets the buff icon below her hp/energy bar but it does not transfer to ellen since it is just the normal swap and not the ''support swap'' dunno what its called

i could slot in another unit like nicole or piper, but the combo passive for nekomata or lucy isn't that big, and the fact that running 2 units only makes it so that when you stun a normal enemy, you directly can use bangboo is a good thing. And the fact that i'm used to do Nekomata being on the field a lot

@@TheTornade33 that is a great startegy that people need to styart using more.

Don't you have Koleda for resonance with Lucy? It will be better, when phys stunner will be released

@@crazytown1798 i don't have koleda sadly, and resonance for lucy is kinda useless rn as she doesn't have good crit rate/crit dmg

@@TheTornade33 you lost so much dmg potential tho, especially with nicole's debuff the event bangboo is also just better for phys teams imo, little bro fills the anomaly bar really fast without the need for a chain atk.

at the time of the video, i still didn't have piper to fit in that last spot, so i got used to that comp a lot. There's some benefits to run double unit, like how when you stun a normal mob, you directly can combo with your bangboo, or that i feel like nekomata really wants to be on field as much as possible. And turns out that i got piper later and built her, but the comp was slower and felt less good with piper in it, because mainly she takes too much time on field