Ellen Anby Soukaku / Nekomata Lucy Duo | Shiyu Defense 17 | Zenless Zone Zero

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

Комментарии • 22

  • @BaeruemFull
    @BaeruemFull 5 месяцев назад +4

    You often swap out of soukakus rising the flag to fast for the buff to transfer, sometimess that can be fine (if you are close to a break and wait with the buff until then) but you also do that when wthere is no real reason to, at least in my opinion.

    • @TheTornade33
      @TheTornade33  5 месяцев назад +2

      i feel like it's hard to correctly use rising the flag agaisnt this floor as you have to dodge quite a lot, so here i'm mainly skill issued i guess. my main focus is trying to stun the boss as fast as possible while doing as much dmg with Ellen

    • @Kai-lj1fx
      @Kai-lj1fx 5 месяцев назад

      How do you know the buff isnt transfering in the swap?
      Whats a timestamp where they swapped early i didnt know thats a thing

    • @BaeruemFull
      @BaeruemFull 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Kai-lj1fx 4:30 as example, i think there were other cases too, you can see how soukaku gets the buff icon below her hp/energy bar but it does not transfer to ellen since it is just the normal swap and not the ''support swap'' dunno what its called

  • @blckorb6322
    @blckorb6322 5 месяцев назад

    So can neko proc the 4 piece fanged metal by herself? Because I thought you need another phys unit like piper to actually get the effect consistently

  • @patrickng7654
    @patrickng7654 5 месяцев назад +2

    I realize you don't stay on Anby to generate daze. Would it be better to just use Nicole instead of Anby at this point ?
    Trying to decide who to build now and i'm wondering if having a stunner is even worth it.

    • @TheTornade33
      @TheTornade33  5 месяцев назад +2

      Sorry for the late reply, but yeah Anby is just here to generate daze during counters and using her E as much as possible to stun fast. Don't think it's worth to put Nicole in that team, tho i did raised and used Nicole in my Nekomata comp, and she works perfectly there!

    • @alternateaccounts5134
      @alternateaccounts5134 5 месяцев назад +1

      The strategy (at least from my own experiences and how most players are playing) seems to be parrying as the primary generator of daze. Playing your stunner exclusively and then swapping to your support and attack characters once the enemy is dazed seems to deal less DMG than just staying on a character and then switching out in response to a parriable attack

  • @longnguyenviet5091
    @longnguyenviet5091 5 месяцев назад +2

    Why you use only 2 character in second team ?

    • @TheTornade33
      @TheTornade33  5 месяцев назад +3

      i could slot in another unit like nicole or piper, but the combo passive for nekomata or lucy isn't that big, and the fact that running 2 units only makes it so that when you stun a normal enemy, you directly can use bangboo is a good thing. And the fact that i'm used to do Nekomata being on the field a lot

    • @iflgames3245
      @iflgames3245 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@TheTornade33 that is a great startegy that people need to styart using more.

    • @crazytown1798
      @crazytown1798 5 месяцев назад +1

      Don't you have Koleda for resonance with Lucy?
      It will be better, when phys stunner will be released

    • @TheTornade33
      @TheTornade33  5 месяцев назад +3

      @@crazytown1798 i don't have koleda sadly, and resonance for lucy is kinda useless rn as she doesn't have good crit rate/crit dmg

    • @jonnevitu4979
      @jonnevitu4979 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheTornade33 you lost so much dmg potential tho, especially with nicole's debuff
      the event bangboo is also just better for phys teams imo, little bro fills the anomaly bar really fast without the need for a chain atk.

  • @shineshineshineshineshine
    @shineshineshineshineshine 5 месяцев назад +1

    did u use only neko+piper for s rank 1-3stage?

  • @harob1305
    @harob1305 5 месяцев назад

    niceeeeeeeeeeeeeee