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Northern Electric Vehicle Experience
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Join me as I learn about EV's and the Electrification of our Society!
Hi, I'm Ron and I live in Canada, and I have owned a fully Electric Vehicle since early 2017. On this program I will attempt to explain what it is like owning an EV, the in's and outs of EV ownership and why I will never go back to an ICE vehicle ever again!
We will also cover the happenings in electrification and talk about the new and the interesting. I will also attempt to answer any questions you have so please send them to me and we can all learn together.
northernevexperience@gmail.com
Hi, I'm Ron and I live in Canada, and I have owned a fully Electric Vehicle since early 2017. On this program I will attempt to explain what it is like owning an EV, the in's and outs of EV ownership and why I will never go back to an ICE vehicle ever again!
We will also cover the happenings in electrification and talk about the new and the interesting. I will also attempt to answer any questions you have so please send them to me and we can all learn together.
northernevexperience@gmail.com
Debunking myths about EV battery fires
EV Battery fires are a big topic in the news lately, but do we really need to worry about it. Is the problem getting worse or better? This video explores the potential risks associated with these batteries in various devices. Stay informed on safety measures and subscribe for more educational content! Should it affect my car buying decisions going forward.
For More great Canadian EV content check out the EV Revolution Show @EVRevolution
For EV Owner Community check out the Electric Vehicle Society @ElectricVehicleSociety
Insurance company on EV fire statistics - alliedworldinsurance.com/risk-management/electric-vehicle-fires-a-cause-for-concern/#:~:text=Researchers%20from%20Auto%20Insurance...
For More great Canadian EV content check out the EV Revolution Show @EVRevolution
For EV Owner Community check out the Electric Vehicle Society @ElectricVehicleSociety
Insurance company on EV fire statistics - alliedworldinsurance.com/risk-management/electric-vehicle-fires-a-cause-for-concern/#:~:text=Researchers%20from%20Auto%20Insurance...
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The EV charging disaster nobody is talking about!
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This video we discuss the lack of EV charging in multi unit residential buildings, what kind of problem this is and why it's a potential disaster in the making. For More great Canadian EV content check out the EV Revolution Show @EVRevolution For EV Owner Community check out the Electric Vehicle Society @ElectricVehicleSociety Interesting News: Canada’s public charger installations up 33 per ce...
Alberta's Controversial EV Tax Explained
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In this Episode we talk about Alberta Canada's new Tax on EV''s, They say its to help pay for the roads, but their critics say its a Political move. We explore what's behind the move and I tell you what I think. For More great Canadian EV content check out the EV Revolution Show @EVRevolution For EV Owner Community check out the Electric Vehicle Society @ElectricVehicleSociety Interesting News:...
Bold Move: Canada's Shift to Electric School Buses
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Atlantic Canada and the Federal Government Launch an effort to better roll out a giant EV School Bus Fleet. We talk about the sector leading LION Electric School bus, and How it can be used in unusual ways. Stick around to the end to get an update on the Petro Canada Charging story. For More great Canadian EV content check out the EV Revolution Show @EVRevolution For EV Owner Community check ou...
IONNA Charging Committee - How can this go wrong?
Просмотров 2518 месяцев назад
My humorous take on the new Ionna Charging Network by seven automakers. Hyundai, Kia, Honda, Mercedes, BMW, GM and Stellantis band together to create the Ionna charging network. In this video I discuss what little we know about it, what concerns I have and offer some suggestions as to how to make it better. For More great Canadian EV content check out the EV Revolution Show @EVRevolution For EV...
My Hyundai Ioniq 5 got hit with the 12v Battery bug
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In this video I find my brand new 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 DEAD, I can't even open the door! Come along and find out what's behind this and what I do about it. If you have a 12v battery failure check out this video and get some useful tips and information. For More great Canadian EV content check out the EV Revolution Show @EVRevolution For EV Owner Community check out the Electric Vehicle Society ...
Heart Aerospace ES 30: Revolutionizing Electric Regional Aircraft
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In this captivating video, we dive deep into the fascinating world of the Heart Aerospace ES 30, an aircraft that is revolutionizing the regional aviation industry with its electric propulsion system. Join us as we explore the cutting-edge technologies, exceptional features, and the immense impact this aircraft is making on sustainable air travel. In this insightful video, we take you on a tour...
Chicago EV Charging Disaster at -10F (-23C), the whole truth!
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This Month Chicago became the center of the EV universe for all the wrong reasons. Chicago experienced extreme cold and the whole thing fell appart. Chargers stopped working, EVs would not charge and even Tesla was not immune. Lets talk about it. Oh and how did they do in Canada you ask, find out! Swedish guy - ruclips.net/video/SwByBAKN4GY/видео.htmlsi=ioTmV8uAtQQoyF3L Out of spec - ruclips.ne...
Controversial Tesla Cybertruck: Worth the Hype?
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In this show we talk about the just released Tesla Cybertruck, why it's not form me and why I think it's interesting anyway! This vehicle represents a seismic shift in the Automotive industry, find out why? For More great Canadian EV content check out the EV Revolution Show @EVRevolution For EV Owner Community check out the Electric Vehicle Society @ElectricVehicleSociety Sandy Munro on Cybertr...
Why Canada Could Be Honda's Next EV Hub
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Video footage of the Ultium Battery Animation We discuss how Honda is Considering building a new EV production facility and Battery Plant beside its existing plant in Alliston Ontario Canada. We also discuss the other new investments in EV battery production and the supply chain that will secure Canadas future as an auto industry producer. We also look at some of ethical issues in the productio...
Canada's New EV Mandate: What You Must Know
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Video footage of the VW ID 4 This Show will Welcome to our channel! In this exciting video, we dive deep into Canada's game-changing move towards electric vehicles with the introduction of the 2035 Electric Vehicle Mandate. Get ready to be enlightened about this revolutionary development that is set to reshape the automotive industry in Canada and mitigate the environmental impact caused by tra...
Celebrating with Family and Friends: Northern EV Experience
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Video footage of the VW ID Buzz This Show we talk about the year that was and my hopes for all of us this Holiday Season! For More great Canadian EV content check out the EV Revolution Show @EVRevolution For EV Owner Community check out the Electric Vehicle Society @ElectricVehicleSociety Interesting News: VW battery plant in Canada electricautonomy.ca/2023/07/07/zev-supply-chain-map-canad/ A2Z...
$60K Hyundai Ioniq 5 Battery Replacement costs more then the car?
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Video footage of the Hyundai Ioniq 5. In this show we discuss the shocking repair bill a Vancouver Hyundai Ioniq 5 owner got to fix his car. We try to understand what happened and I will make some suggestions about what could be done better. For More great Canadian EV content check out the True North EV Podcast open.spotify.com/show/54O6q8IZfeSPi8VIN0zHtz For EV Owner Community check out the El...
True Northern EV Show! with Ron & James
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Hey in this show James from the True North EV Podcast Joins me to talk all podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/true-north-evs/id1458139920 things EV's and our experiences in this northern climate. Join us for some fun conversation. Topics ranging from The Poor state of EV charging, to The Dealership model to EV etiquette. We cover it all, come join us for some fun. For More great Canadian EV content ...
Introducing the APMA Project Arrow 2.0 Electric Vehicle
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In this video, we dive into the groundbreaking APMA Project Arrow 2.0 Electric Vehicle - a true revolution in EV design! Join us as we introduce you to this cutting-edge electric vehicle. The APMA Project Arrow 2.0 Electric Vehicle is design concept that showcases the Electric Automotive industries Capabilities. Not only does the APMA Project Arrow 2.0 Electric Vehicle impress with its aestheti...
Evaluating Petro-Canada's EV Charging: The Truth Exposed
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Evaluating Petro-Canada's EV Charging: The Truth Exposed
Unleashing the Power of Vehicle-to-Grid Technology
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Unleashing the Power of Vehicle-to-Grid Technology
2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5: Joins the Northern EV Experience
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2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5: Joins the Northern EV Experience
Unveiling the Electric Vehicle Slowdown: Why It's Actually a Positive Sign
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Unveiling the Electric Vehicle Slowdown: Why It's Actually a Positive Sign
Tesla's Game-Changing Move Leaves Everyone Speechless
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Tesla's Game-Changing Move Leaves Everyone Speechless
The Evolution of Electric Vehicles: From Horseless to Model 3
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The Evolution of Electric Vehicles: From Horseless to Model 3
Escape the Norm: Unveiling the Volvo EX30 EV
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Escape the Norm: Unveiling the Volvo EX30 EV
Surviving the EV Takeover: Which Car Companies Will Make the Cut?
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Surviving the EV Takeover: Which Car Companies Will Make the Cut?
A Conversation with David VanAlstyne of the EV Socieity
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A Conversation with David VanAlstyne of the EV Socieity
2024's Hottest Electric Trucks: A Sneak Peek
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2024's Hottest Electric Trucks: A Sneak Peek
Essential Beginner's Guide to EV Charging
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Essential Beginner's Guide to EV Charging
Debunking Electric Vehicle Myths: Don't Fall for the FUD!
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Debunking Electric Vehicle Myths: Don't Fall for the FUD!
What is the 7 Automaker Charging Network
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What is the 7 Automaker Charging Network
Escape the Fear: Navigating EV Charging in Canada
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Escape the Fear: Navigating EV Charging in Canada
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You can’t activate Utility Mode while plugged in and charging. The 12v battery does charge whenever you are charging the high voltage battery as well as in Utility mode. A good replacement AGM 12V battery will rarely see more than one brief charge per day. Ours goes several days without any charging when left off.
we charged my wife's 23 gv60 at a petrocanada near Toronto last week arriving at the charger at 9% and saw 230kW. Got 9-80% charge in 19 minutes. This was on a charger that was labelled as 200kW. We were happy. We had just driven 1.75hrs at ~120kph, and the ambient temperature was around 17C IIRC.
I have a 23 Hi5 and have not had the dead battery problem. However, I have had a problem some call Zombie Mode. When I try to shift out of park I can not get it to go into D or R. The car is thus immobile. I had it happen in a carwash after I paid for my wash at the entry gate. I had to open the door because I couldn't reach the card slot so the car shifted into Park. I couldn't get it out of Park. After turning it on and off a couple of times and trying several times to get it to shift it worked. Took about 5 minutes. I put my foot on the brake each time I restarted it. It has happened four more times randomly. Each time I am able to get it to shift after doing various things. The dealer won't help me if I can't make it happen in their presence. Hyundai said they can't help me without a dealer experiencing it. They recommend taking it in to the dealer and leaving it there so they can try to duplicate the issue. No loaner offered. It is usually a couple of months between each experience so I can't imagine it is going to happen when the mechanic at the dealer is checking it once or so times a day. So, it looks like I am on my own. I think it is a low battery problem but am only guessing. I have purchased battery tester and a jump start battery. Hopefully, if it happens again I can just jump start and the problem will be over for the time being. I have had the recall ICCU update done. I don't know yet if it fixes the problem. Do any of you have any suggestions for what I can do?
The petro canada in Halifax . I got best out of it is 65 . I was disappointed
My 12 volt battery died after 18 months, and 12,000 miles (19,000 ish km), so I feel your pain. The software updates to fix this were obviously not effective, and probably no more than service theater, as the brand is taking a PR hit from this issue. I’m taking mine in next week, and I’m expecting very little satisfaction down here in Las Vegas. I hear the dealerships won’t even supply a new battery unless certain parameters have been met. That is unacceptable to me. But… I have to at least give them a shot at doing something. Thanks for uploading your video, and GO LEAFS GO!
Guys the real solution is just to swap for a new battery and that's it. It's not iccu it's not blue link. Swap for new battery and try to get reimbursed from Hyundai cuz it's a ev design flaw. They could design it where the ev cars don't need 12v swapped every 2-3 years but there goes millions down the drain for the battery companies if they did that.
well
I just stopped using bluelink when battery got down to 30% and it seemed to help
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Iccu recalled issued. Now iccu is covered by Hyundai long as you own the vehicle even if the warranty expires
I'll keep my gas fueled vehicle thank you .. I rented the ioniq 6 and I went from Los Angeles to Vegas and I had to charge twice just to get to Vegas. The battery in ECO MODE still drains pretty fast. Next time I'll make sure I don't make the same mistake and accidentally rent a ev vehicle again.
I think that people who complain about EVs, including fires, and range, can't afford to buy one, or they're trying to justify their purchase of / spending on their ICE vehicle.
There is a piece of that in there.
I can afford any car that I want and I would never put my family into a flaming EV. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
So you have complete faith in all countries testing methods, such as China. There is nothing to worry about. I think out all of the countries currently making EV, China has the highest vested interest in making sure EVs don't die. If EVs die, a large portion of the CCP dies as well. I don't have faith in China.
Now don't be putting words in my mouth. No I don't have faith in other countries testing, that is why I said we need to enforce certification again. Bodies like the UL, CSA, ULC or similar testing bodies in Europe or Asia. These bodies certify products for the jurisdictions in which they operate. UL does a lot for north America as does CSA.
Good video, thanks,. A total of 20 out of 264,400 Bolts burned, with the newer N2.2 and N2.2a LG Chem batteries having no recalls or concerns; the media sure made sure it looked like a lot more than 20 Bolts burned. I'm in BC, and my Bolt euv has been flawless, which surprises me for a GM product. I look forward to how much better evs will be quickly.
Thanks for the comment, it has really been blown way out of proportion in the media.
Not exactly an epidemic eh?@@Davran2742
Thank you. I don’t mind the rambling, nor do I have any criticism for you today. The one thing I did want to mention is the performance metrics for EV batteries. The primary metrics are watt-hours/cubic-meter (i.e. Volumetric Density) and watt-hours/kilogram (i.e. Energy Density). For an EV, batteries need to be as light weight as possible and as small as possible. Other parameters that matter are: Maximum Discharge Rate (limits the amount of power that can be laid down), Cycle Life (number of charge/discharge cycles a cell can tolerate with minimal capacity loss), Calendar Life (measure of deterioration that occurs when the battery isn’t being used), and Charge Rate (how quickly the battery can be recharged).
Hey great information thank you for sending it!
More bunk from a paid huckster trying the smart people to buy this crap.
Fuck EVs.
Charging isn't the problem. EVs are uneconomical. They cost more, they can't go as far, they are throw away vehicles after 10 years. Poor people will be left to use public transportation as USED EVs they could afford don't and will never exist for the next 50 years. BTW, without someone at the "gas station" attending charging stations, it will be a never ending maintenance problem for charging stations in the public. Cities have already had to re-wire Charging stations all around their city thanks to wire theives removing the charging cables over and over and over again. EVs are dumb, and no amount of arguing will fix that.
Sorry but that just isn't true, with the exception of EV's being too expensive upfront, but that is changing, in the last 7 years that I have owned ev's the price has come down quite a bit and will come down more as the tech stabilizes. Oh and my first EV is 7 years old with 240 thousand kilometers on it and the battery still has about 95% of it's original capacity, I am sure my wife will be driving it for years to come.
Not so fast. All these unfunded mandates all the gov'ts around the world are pushing are fragile. Just because it's mandated "by 2030 it *must* be..." it's actually meaningless. You can't make people buy. If it doesn't happen, so what? It'll be 2035, or 2040 or maybe 2050. Or totally withdrawn because it's unworkable. Welcome to the market economy. As we move into slightly higher EV adoptions there's greater resistance. The initial blandishments of how wonderful EV's are has hit the wall of reality. The official EV range estimates are wildly overstated, the great mantra of no maintenance has proven to be a lie and extraordinarily expensive and the last year the great depreciation crisis has reared it's ugly head. N.A. is a little behind the curve on that but there's no reason for it to be different. The latest hit is insurance and for MURB's that's a killer. There's a distinct possibility that no underground charging stations will be allowed and even the possibility that EV's can't be parked there. For condo's that's a killer. This doesn't even go into the grid requirements of EV charging MURB's in a residential space. 2030 is a pipedream. 2050 is barely makeable and not likely.
I'm sorry but you have been paying too much attention to the FUD out there. I have been driving and EV for the last 7 years almost 8 now and they are great to drive, require almost no maintenance and are very economical. Don't believe the few lemons that pop up are a wave of problems like they are made up to be. I'm guessing you are in the US because its only there that I have heard of EV's being banned from parking garages, because of fires! The fact is numerous studies now, mostly by insurance companies have found that EV's are about 100 times LESS likely to catch fire then a gas car, and that number is dropping as the industry moves to LFP cells for more stability and longer charging life cycles.
Studies are showing multi-family structures and the lack of on site charging does not impact EV purchases as long as there are chargers nearby. Check out: ruclips.net/video/HBGyaNVzppw/видео.html
Charged today on an Electrify Canada 150 KWh unit and with the EV6 battery preconditioned I managed 182 KWh!
Well that's a first, Great to hear!
Went to a different Electrify Canada 150Kwh station today with batteries preconditioned, minimum cell temp 24C maximum charging speed 183kwh/h it took 8min 51 sec to receive 25.4 kWh, I was not able to initiate the 350kwh and after phoning and talking to the Electrify Canada rep I was advised to change chargers.
Thanks for the comment, I will be testing an Electrify Canada Charger in Nova Scotia shortly, brand new install we will see how it goes.@@bobstevenson4396
Make sure you precondition your battery to 24-25C, I started at 30% charge and stopped at 65% when the rate started decreasing to 174 KWh. My highest charge rate was between 55% & 60% at 183 KWh. I am planning a return trip from Vancouver to LA using Electrify America so I am testing various Electrify Canada locations to sort out any issues. The two PetroCanada EV locations on Vancouver Island never seem to be operating, they only have 1.0 PlugScores so I have never been able to try them out.
Charged at a 350kwh Electrify America unit highest rate 245kwh/hr and in 20mins added 62kwh to the EV6 battery, temperature was 28C minimum 30C maximum battery. It is the car that controls the charging rate not the station.
Most nations will benefit from going EV. Sending trillions to OPEC, Russia, etc, has been a negative for most nations. I think if going EV was discussed more as a security measure for nations that just happens to have the benefit of improving the environment and given complexity consumers a chance to end trips the gas station as well no more oil changes, it might get more to back a strong push to have a solid plan for all communities to make their places EV friendly. It seems odd to me people ignore history when horses were the dominant choice and it took time to make the switch from horses to automobiles. The deadlines pushed by the government motivates people. Small nations have made great progress and give hope it is doable. I am still hoping for wireless charging tech to come through. Not a simple solution, but no cables for people to plug in and it really would not change the looks of most places. Hopefully the political games will be fought off and a focus on practical solutions eill happen. There is no easy fix, but this is the kind of change that benefit do many for decades to come.
step away from the bong...
You are exactly right on all counts. It is seldom talked about but for many countries they are net oil importers and it is a dramatic drain on their economies. If their power and transportation sectors can run on domestically produced power they will be a lot further ahead in the long run.
It obvious you don't underestimate. Chargers are going in quicker than expected. And because of bidirectional charging the cars stabilize the grid. The only country not changing to EV is us and Japan. Luddites
They are starting to ramp up as the EV sales rise the public pull through is getting into the market. Here in Canada it's looking like we could double the charger capacity in 2024, that is huge!
EV since 3 years/65.000km I was never able to charge at home. Sure, it would be super convenvient but it's not necessary as long as the general infrastructure keeps up. I hope it does cause in some places, EV share is growing a lot faster than charger deployment.
thanks for the comment, I hope you get a chance to charge at home or work in the near future.
@@NorthernEVexperience I'm good. Charging around work is great. I got a few spots that are within short walking distance so no trouble at all.
Before solving the charging problem, the makers should work on solving the mineral mining caused pollution. You know, since the narrative is about saving the planet...Juss sayin'
ahh, it's a work in progress, but we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Don't forget everything we consume pretty much came out of the ground at some point, it all needs to be done better. Thanks for your comment!
People are overreacting. It will take time to switch. It will happen organically.
Agreed, it will happen eventually but humans tend to wait till things are a crisis before they get their butts in gear, I would rather we get ahead of things for a change. Thanks for the comment!
You are the reason Canada is such a wet mess. You love big government and are ready to bend over to as soon as they say when and where.
One guess who is going to pay for all this required charging equipment and confined space EV battery fire suppression.
Sorry the whole battery fire problem isn't really a thing. Several studies have been done now, mostly by insurance companies that have indicated that EV's are about 100 times LESS likely to catch fire, and as I said in the video EV drivers should pay for their charging.
My personal belief is the rating of PC and Electrify Canada chargers should be rated at 350amps. If a Porsche Taycan is at 25C and charging at 1,000V at 350amps it would be receiving around 350KWH. If my EV6 is at 25C and charging at 730V at 350Amps it should be receiving about 245kwh. I believe it is the AWG (max temperature allowed) size of the copper wire in the charging cable that limits the kwh delivered.
You must be an electrical engineer because I only followed about half of that. :) It is my understanding that station operators often install undersized cables because they are cheaper, that is unfortunate. my big problem with PC is that they say the thing is a 350kwh charger, now if thats limited by the cable or the grid or the charger that doesn't matter, they sticker should say what that charge can deliver right now to the right vehicle. Thanks for the comment.
The CCS connector maximum specification is indeed 1000 Volts and 500 amps but most installations limit the current to 350amps because the connection cable would need to be much larger/heavier for 500 amps. If one has a vehicle that has a battery capable to receive 350 amps at 1000 volts then PC should be able to deliver 350 Kwh and hence their advertising under perfect lab conditions is indeed correct. Unfortunately the vehicle being charged is never able to match those conditions and it is the vehicle being charged that is limiting the KWH. PC could claim they have future proofed their systems for 1000 volt vehicles at 350kwh!
Thanks Bob for the great detail.@@bobstevenson4396
We need to look at this discussion in a holistic manner. How we work and play now will b different in 2035. Wfh isn't going away. Reduced need to commute. People are also gravitating to walkable communities to reduce commute times. Also, electric bikes, mopeds, and scooters and mass transit are having an impact on how people commute and on oil consumption just as much as EVs. We will also likely see a reduction in auto ownership in the next two decades. Robotaxies will arrive and humans won't be allow to drive. If a robotaxi is cheaper and you're just a passenger, do you really need to own a vehicle? Maybe not. For those who do insist on owning a vehicle, Walmart is rolling out EV chargers at most of their stores and a ridiculous number of north Americans live by a Walmart. You have to buy groceries during the week. You might as well charge while shopping. That's what we do on the weekends. There's also the French solution. All major parking lots in France now need to install solar panels and EV chargers so if you have to go into the office in France, you can charge at work or while at night while dining out. The future will also see more distributed electricity generation. It is mar 13 and our solar panels generated over 40 kwh and we only consumed 12 kwh. Battery prices are declining. A home owner can install 90 kwh of battery storage now. Imagine what it will be like in 2035. For high rise condos, I wouldn't be surprised to see solar panels installed on the side of the buildings or the installation of solar windows in the next decade. No snow cover. Batteries will be in the garage. Plenty of energy for charging. Hugh potential the bigger the building. The world is constantly innovating and changing. A child born this year will look back to their birth year in 2035 and wonder how we ever got by.
Excellent Comment thank you. I agree with everything you said. I am encouraged how cities and towns in North America are finally embracing the walkable communities concept. So overdue.
This is a great topic, I think it is the biggest hurdle by far. My condo built in 2019 has 10 chargers. Pretty great to see but still, that's out of probably a hundred spots. I moved out since but I imagine by now with so many EVs people will have to rotate through spots to actually charge, and not charging every day. One time there were no spots and I arrived at 1 am on a very cold day with 10% left and my car required a charge immediately or it would possibly die due to the cold. I had to drive to a nearby supercharger to make sure I had enough charge. Very inconvenient
I hear you, however at the moment a building with 10 spots sounds pretty good. The truth is the vast majority of people only need to charge once or twice a week so we don't need 1 charger for every car, but we do need to keep up with the demand that is there. That said I am a proponent of putting a charger in every stall for assigned parking, and using load balancing to get savings in the electrical room, and with the grid connection. Thanks for the great comment!
In America only about 10% live in an apartment. Most people live in an area where solar makes since for home use. I have it and charge for free it is great.
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's great to hear how beneficial solar energy can be.
I was in apartment building scale heat pump business 10 years ago, when BEVs started to take off in Finland. They were inquiring, if they could add half a dozen to chargers to their parking lot. After hearing the need (and prices) of upgrading just upgraded switchboard and the mains cable most of the apartment building ditched the plan. And only very few decided to go with half a dozen or less Level 1 or Level 2 chargers.
That's unfortunate, thank you for your comment. Love the idea of building scale heat pumps, they are only just gaining steam here now.
If the goal is 100% EVs after 2035, then access to a working L2 EVSE at every parking space should become standard baked into the rent, not a separate cost. I'm curious to see what will happen to the frequency of copper theft once easily accessible and safe to cut cables are in every open-air parking space. Two brand-new Tesla superchargers had most of their cables stolen before their opening earlier this year. My bet is lots of foreseeable complications will cause the 2035 new-ICEV sales ban to get delayed indefinitely in favor of renewable fuel hybrids.
Theft is an unfortunate thing, however fairly unlikely in a residential parking lot, way too many people right where the chargers are.
No I don't think the cost of EV charging should be baked into the rent, there is way too much variability in consumption. Why should grandma who is on a fixed income and drives a whole 20 miles a week, pay the same as the power commuter that drives 500 miles a week?
@@NorthernEVexperience access/availability and use are two different things. If everyone needs an EVSE, then installation and maintenance of the equipment should be on the landlord and baked into the rent. Whether the landlord decides to hard-wire the chargers back to individual units' panel so charging gets billed to the tenants' electricity bill at a huge expense in wiring, have 200A branches run across the parking lot and EVSEs tee'd off of it with a 50A breaker using power-sharing algorithms or sub-contract the whole thing to a 3rd-party to spare himself all of the management and billing work is a whole other debate.
Thanks for your comment@@teardowndan5364
Like cabling for TVs is part of a condo the same should be natural for charging EVs. Price setting will be national decision.
For new built condo's the wiring should be included in the new construction for sure just like any other common area service and over time the chargers would be included as well, however in this transition period I would be good with the cabling and electrical room infrastructure.
I appreciate this video. I have questioned how this problem can be addressed. In new construction, it is relatively easy, not so in older complexs where nothing is spected to carry the additional load . Another possibility that occurred to me would be a solar-assisted charging system provided by one of the auto manufacturers or government who mandated the switch. Durning the day, solar power is dilibered to the grid at night after demand drops pulled back at lower rates.
Older buildings are a sticky wicket. Most don't have the infrastructure in their electrical room to make the additional capacity, at least not in any big way. The best option in these cases is usually to bring in a new service just for the charging stations and use a pre fab structure as an electrical room. Thanks for the great comment!
I worry that if you mandate a 14-50 receptacle be installed, they’ll install a cheap one that isn’t actually safe for EV charging. We need to encourage hard-wired EVSEs. They’re safer: you can’t accidentally unplug them while charging, and they have fewer points of failure. Mandates also need to take the CCS to NACS transition into account. It would be silly to install a J1772 EVSE today, as manufacturers are switching to NACS. So better to use an adapter now rather than for decades to come. Then there’s the question of ubiquitous level 1 vs a small pool of shared level 2 chargers. I would argue it’s better to provide a simple 120 volt outlet for every parking space. Does it provide fast enough charging for everyone? No, but it’s enough for most, and people can always supplement with occasional DC charging. The main advantage is you eliminate the conflict between people having to share a limited resource. You’ll be expected to move your car as soon as it’s done charging, even if that’s inconvenient.
All great points. I am not a fan of plugging in a charger but I would hope a code mandating a receptacle would spec an appropriate receptacle. I have been following this topic for about 7 years now and the fact is most receptacles on the market were Dryer or stove receptacles which really are not up to the job, a welding or RV receptacle is a much better choice. There are no EV specific receptacles coming into the market if people insist on plugging in. For me I have always been a fan of hardwiring my charger and have done so for both of mine. Not sure I agree with the Level 1 thing, I don't think it will be perticulerly viable in the long run, you would be running a lot of outlets at max current a lot of the time for extended periods, where if you run 240V to an EVSE that is designed from the start to take the load, and manage the whole parking lot with a dynamic load management system you can get more done faster for less overall cost. Thanks for the comments!
@@NorthernEVexperience good points I hadn’t thought of or didn’t know. Hubbell makes a nice Bakelite 14-50 receptacle that handles the load fine, but most are made of plastic and aren’t nearly as reliable. 14-50 seems to have become the standard, but Teslas mobile EVSE supports a wide range of plugs.
Good to know, Hubbell is always top quality, costs a bit more, but the peace of mind is a free bonus.@@pepstein
Good luck getting every transformer in the country changed out to ev charge.
This video is focusing on AC charging, either via a regular 120 volt outlet or a dedicated 208 or 240 volt circuit, typically at 24 to 40 Amps. Hardly something that would require a larger transformer.
Agreed!
What does Special needs (very) Black face loving PM Boy have planed ?
I live in an apartment in the UK. We call apartments flats. We all have numbered parking spaces in my block. The landlord will run cables off the private "street" lights for about £1200 per car. That seems alright, but only a temporary solution. Also I have not enquired about the price per kw. Ideally I would want to run a cable from my charging meter so I can negotiate charging costs and not be bothered with credit cards. I don't know whether my landlord would want me undermining the car park foundations.
Yeah I've heard about this on the Fully charged show. Its an interesting concept running from the street lights, not something we can do here its the wrong voltage usually 120V or 347V. Thanks for the comment!
Use your brain and look for solutions. My daughter move out after finishing her college degree. She moved into a house that no longer physically allowed overnight charging. Supercharging is available, but an added an additional task to her daily life. So she looked for solutions. A block away from her place of employment are some FREE Level 2 chargers. A short walk allows her to charge while at work and NEVER pay a penny. Just use your brain. ANY electrical outlet is a charging opportunity.
Hey use it if you can. I'm a big proponent for workplace level 2 charging. I don't have a problem paying for my power though, I like a free charge just as much as the next person. one thing that concerns me though is free chargers are often not repaired when they break. Thanks for the comment.
There are no free chargers. Just chargers that someone else pays for the electricity.
Imagine just hooking up an extention cord at the McDonald's to charge. It's free. This is a joke
I found that some medical offices offer 240 Volt charging in their parking lots, so when I stay overnight at a rural or small towns' motel, I find a few blocks such an availability to recharge overnight my EV while I sleep. Washington State. Moreover, my electric car tabs include a fee to increase construction for charging stations (plus road maintenance tax). I pay for my share. Other nations set gasoline and diesel pricing... or just cut off our domestic distribution. I am glad that it is domestic decisions to generate our electricity. I am delighted to be a customer of a public utility district over a privatized corporation for power generation and distribution as the prices are reasonable and their customer service is more responsive.
@@shaunconklin5694 the point was, morun, there are solutions. UNLESS your low IQ get in the way.
Does PetroCanada provide full 350kwh at line voltage without a battery buffer? If there is no buffer the utility would charge PetroCanada a very expensive Peak Rate and the switch gear/Transformer required for that 350Kwh Peak would be very expensive. Parkland has installed 150kwh at their Chevron stations in BC but they only deliver near full capacity if the battery buffer is fully charged. The battery buffer needs time to recover between vehicle charges because Parkland is trying to provide KWH at the lowest cost by avoiding utility Peak billing rates.
Yes I think this is what's causing PC to derate their units. Without a batter buffer the peak rates would be brutal. I like the Freewire units Parkland is putting in, with the battery buffer its a good idea. However I think a separate grid scale battery would be big enough to avoid the wait to charge problem.
@@NorthernEVexperience I have seen that some charging equipment can supply one, two or more buffer batteries to increase the storage capacity and hence the supply kWh/h and it may just be a matter of economics on how much kWh the unit can supply at any particular time
It is economics but the cost of batteries is going down and stationary batteries even more. You can use LFP or Flow batteries for stationary storage at a lower cost. Also for larger operators they could cut deals with the grid to offer storage and supply for the grid as a service.@@bobstevenson4396
My daughter lives in a 24 unit apartment with a Kia Niro EV. She is the first EV owner and has a agreement with the building to pay $300/yr to plug in to the 120v outlet near her car which fully satisfies her charging requirements. Since she drives less than 10,000kms/year (Odometer checked) and does charge from time to time at BC Hydro DC units the building actually makes a profit on her unmetered usage. If a 15A 240V (14g wire) unmetered circuit was run to the 24 parking spaces in her underground parking area 98% of all the future charging needs could be handled. 15a240v should provide 2.7kwh which should be sufficient for every commuter overnight.
Hey that's great, and your are right for a lot of users a 120V outlet could work but for the rest they need level 2. You are also right that they don't all need 9.2 kwh for charging, but the commercial systems like Siemens have dynamic load management, so you can bring 60A to 240V to say 4 units and they will share the power between all users, this significantly cuts the overall cost of installation, and usually can satisfy everyone. Thanks for the great comment!
@@NorthernEVexperience my daughter’s Niro EV is a 2019 and she is approaching 5 years of problem free ownership. It just takes patience and understanding to enjoy a wonderful little car. Her only stressful situation was a trip from Edmonton west to Jasper uphill into a 70kms head wind and she had to stop at a GM dealership in Hinton to get some kwh. Once beyond Jasper, BC Hydro’s frequent DC chargers provided smooth sailing all the way back to Vancouver! Apparently there now new reliable Flo DC chargers installed at the Canadian Tire in Edson that would have prevented that issue.
Great story and a great little car. My first EV was a Chevrolet Bolt EV, really very similar, fun to drive and a great experience all around @@bobstevenson4396
@@NorthernEVexperienceEUV here, and I sprung for the premier. Currently apartment hunting in the minneapolis minnesota area, and I'm offering a few place a free charger and installation if I can get it in my assigned spot. A lot of them are interested in the offer.
Good to hear some creative ideas I hope it works out for you. Thanks for the comment.
What temperature was the lowest preconditioned cell in your EV? I find in my EV6 if I precondition to 21C minimum I can pretty well make full use of a 150kwh/h charger, if I get to 25C minimum I can make full use of a 350kwh/h charger.
Not sure I have to figure out how to set up the ODP thing. Stay Tuned!
A month or so ago shortly after the GoC's 2035 EV announcement, a weekly breakfast friend of mine here in Alberta came in visibly shaking. He lives in a senior-living multi-building condo complex and the condo board held an emergency meeting over the "mandates" for EV charging. They went full panic mode and scared a good chunk of the residents that a very steep special assessment of 10's of 000's of dollars per owner, is most likely coming along to pay for all this "mandatory" charging equipment and the building electrical upgrades that will be required. The residents are all upset. I've tried to calm my friend down for now, but the miss-information and assumptions floating around right now are truly scaring some people. Stay rational folks! We'll get there one day. A journey begins with a single step. :-)
Great comment thanks. I am not aware of any charging mandates being floated in Alberta at this time, most discussions in Canada are around changing the code so that new or renovated properties must be brought up to code. There is talk about retrofitting older properties but the expectation is that the Feds will provide an infrastructure loan and or grant to cover the costs, and they would be recouped when people use the chargers. Further as I said in the video, they can phase it in as demand grows. Lastly as a facility manager I can say with certainty the absolute worst case scenario with major electrical upgrades would be 7K per level 2 charger if they are saying tens of thousands they want to profit from the installation in a big way or they are thinking to put DC fast chargers in a residential setting that's just silly.
@@NorthernEVexperience Sorry! I put "mandates" in quotes because that's what the condo board incorrectly assumed. :-) ...and in doing so, scared some of the remaining life out of their residents.
I like how a $200 road tax is an underhanded political / ideological move, with an underlying agenda, not to help provide a public service everyone wants. But billions in taxpayer $, mandates, quotas, regulations, carbon credits, ESG scores, fines on ICE manufacturers, used to try to resurrect a far less popular technology against people's will, is in no way political or ideological, there's no agenda, and nobody is getting rich of it! Take a poll of the general public; what would you rather gov't spends money on; forcing EVs on everyone.... or fixing the potholes? I don't think that would be close..
It seems like the road to progress is paved with potholes and electric vehicles these days.
AFAIK the battery preconditoning will not initiate when the battery is below 20% charge. Good content as I think I will be needing these Petrocanada chargers on my trip down east this summer.
Good to know thanks. Note they are installing Electrify Canada Chargers right now, all the ground work has already been done, so if you wait a couple months you should be able to use them
Are they implying “ION”(s) [for/in/of] “NA”, meaning North America {US and Canada}?
I don't know but I like the Theory!
My Bolt euv seldom charges at more than 40kw, so I'm good with most chargers :)
yup that was my experience as well, although in the last year I found it charger closer to 50Kw most of the time, there must have been an update or something. Thanks for the comment
@@NorthernEVexperience -- My Bolt often starts charging at 51-52kw, but doesn't stay above 50 for long.