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I want one bunnie explain me how they are fine supporting this kind of children explotation and women objetification in 2024.

Pls ignore whatever happened at 2:30.I have no idea why the video decided to glitch out like that. 🥲

Comparing SNSD and 2NE1 is like comparing Apples and Tomatoes, both of which are fruits but they are not the same. SNSD became one of the great Iconic girl groups with its basis of great vocals and awesome choreography. Having 9 members shaped their development. 2NE1 Had great vocals but more subtle choreography. They had a broader range of music styles and excellent rapping. With 4 members they allowed individuality to show. Conclusion: Both great! Both were very important to the growth of female KPOP groups.

Well... I listen music, I do not watch music, if idols want to be dancers and performers then is fine but then stop pretending to be musicians and present only as performers and give proper credicts to the ones creating the music and singing it.

I disagree with the first one a lot. It's probably because I'm more interested in vocals than dance or performance, so it's pretty obvious that lipsyncing all the time is going to bother me. Still, I understand lipsyncing in music shows and sometimes even in live performances when the idol's condition isn't the best or when the choreography is too demanding (in this last case, lipsyncing some parts of the song and being selective over the parts they want to sing like lipsyncing the chorus because it's really heavy on choreography, for example). But it really throws me off when I can't find a single performance of a certain song with the group singing live when there are plenty of performances available but they're all lipsync. Like can't you just record a performance in which you sing live? Like in an award cerimony or something? Idk... I do realize that kpop is a visual-focused industry but I still think it's too much in most cases. Loved the video tho <3

Heavy HEAVYYYY on the first one, I honestly don’t give a damn whether they lip sync or not, I don’t know what vocals I’ve already heard (but probably better) on the original track is gonna do for me…… I’d much rather see something we haven’t seen much which is the dancing, I will always always choose watching a group have amazing performances rather with lip syncing than outstanding vocals and lack luster preformances

About people making fun of Soyeons accent .. aren't they the same people that were completely fine with "And they keep telling me who is he?" in OMG by Newjeans? It doesn't make sense how you're gonna praise a group for speaking English but then completely drag another. But like, again.. *what the hell do you expect?* English is not her first language so of course it's not gonna sound 100% perfect.

I'm still believe that lipsyncing has gone too far. I also feel like you are mistaking performer for dancer. A good performer doesn't even NEED to dance to keep the audience engaged. However the dances have becomes so difficult that there is not only any chance for singing live but also no chance to actually PERFORM.

Please please do your own research on the Burning Sun Scandal/Gate if this is the first time you’ve hear about it. Or if you think it isn’t a big deal.

You can’t stan any idol these days 😭

Dara & Bom were already established artists before debuting in 2NE1. This added to the groups early success. Bom had a few features with Bigbang already & Dara was popular entertainer in the Philippines before moving back to Korea. So when 2NE1 debuted they had a huge Filipino audience from the beginning when Dara moved to Kpop. Great video! Just wanted to add a couple things

As a group: SNSD > 2NE1. But hear me out 😅 Girl groups in general weren’t marketable at the time and experienced a decline before the success of SNSD & Wonder Girls. So in a way SNSD did help 2ne1. I would say the main difference between the two is marketing. SNSD is primarily marketed for Asia while 2NE1 is primarily for the western market. We never got the joint album between Will.i.am & 2NE1 that was heavily teased & promoted. I was/is a fan of both groups. 2ne1 is charismatic whereas SNSD is classy. There’s space for both. ❤ But personally I think SNSD “wins” because more thought went into the formation. Everything from staging, vocals, harmonies & structure. 2NE1 wasn’t supposed to be a group. They all said they were originally supposed to be soloists & it shows. CL was traded from JYP to start rapping for a hopeful single in YG. Dara was a star in the Philippines. Bom already had a few songs: with Bigbang ‘We Belong Together’ & ‘Forever With U’ & another song with another singer (can’t remember the name right now). All this happened before 2NE1 & their demo track ‘Pretty Boy’ which made the company create the group & feature the song on their first album

SNSD active over 15 years, 2ne1 active barely 7 years of their career but people in today world kinda love 2ne1 musics a lot than SNSD and I think without any controversy for 21 and SNSD back then, there’s already westerners that acknowledge 2ne1 will break in US market already

Correction, 2NE1 did not won SOTY "in a row". They 1st won in 2009 with I Dont Care and 2011 with IATB. They did won Artist and Album of the Year in 2010 hence 4 Dasang Award in 3 straight years.

Bottomline - fans are delusional kids need of timeouts.

I'm not even 3 minutes to the video yet but something I need to point out. Girls Generation debuted in 2007. This is actually the 4th video in a week I've watched were the person has stated Girls Generation debuted in 2009. 2009 is the year they blew up online with the release of "Gee." I normally would ignore it as a slip of the tongue. But being the fourth video I've seen I can't help but be curious if everyone is getting this information from the same source?

NEW PANTS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What a time to be a girl group stan 😤!!

It’s so creepy their age takes up so much real estate in your mind.

im not conservative like this, im more liberal in my views. coz when i grew up, i watched movies that are PG13 that had way more sexual references that went over my head.

I especially wanted to add at how good this company is with turning its markets against each other remember when RVelvet made icecream cake I believe ? It was saying the English translated Ver. Was sexually intended with lyric full of innuendos in English whilst Korean and Asian fans said it wasn’t . Well both sides were right . The same thing happened with cookies when Korean fans said it didn’t mean something sexual to them it was interpreted as giving a boy you like a cookie while the original Ver. (English as well as translated) suggested something completely otherwise . I remember the shock and arguments each fanbase put up , international and domestic when they couldn’t reach an agreement when technically both was right it was just more shocking towards the market they either aim to (western). I believe min heejin was the director for sm during ice cream cake as well !! When this type of one-sided shock marketing happens these groups gained both protection domestically (Asian fans protecting new jeans from harsh criticism that were truthfully so when translated ) and western fans becoming defensive in their beliefs. It confuses both and get them media play in both markets . Again I will say this growing up in a particular black household. They way black people used cookie in the US may be different. Cookies means a female sexual organ . My mother would say this as a censorship so it wouldn’t be inappropriate. When learning about seggs at a young age my mom would explain birds and bees using “cookies” “she would say never give your cookies away meaning your female genital” / virginity. If we speak technically I’m new jeans English translation or ver. It’s specifically speaking about the young TEENAGE girls giving away their cookies to a boy . The girls proceed to say they could have it anyway the boys like by adding chocolate chips , sprinkles and chocolate etc . Insisting to the boys by basically say it they could have them anyways possible like for example seggs positions , lingerie etc . The girls in the song also say to the boy to take a bite insinuating oral . I also want to point out the tone they sing this in .. the producers chose this as a “r&b” track to mask the way the sing it in a whiny tone . For Asian fans this song would be interpreted as a girl meeting a boy and giving him cookies she baked as a love sign . But for western fans it shows a girl losing her v-card and or trying to please a boy using her body . Again it’s normal for teens to do seggsual acts at that age hence we have that “talk” but to use actual teenager to do so ? To create shock in the western base and get coverage was so bizzare .. Sorry for the long paragraph but someone had to say it .

Don't judge me: The other day I looked up randomly if Danielle wore butt pads cuz in 1 performance it was just noticeable so I googled if she wears them, no big deal. HUGE mistake! I was taken to SoooOo many disgusting reddits and posts making the girls p0rn stars with entire fantasy plots of the girls being together s€xually. It went on and on and it was like an endless rabbit hole of perversion. That's what worries me most.

The PROBLEM with NEWJEANS ? Is they're TOO PERFECT!

100% agree. I didn't like the members of the group being so young and wouldn't want to financially support this growing trend but the marketing makes it even worse. In a perfect world they would've waited to debut them until they were older but since they didn't I would've hoped that the label would try to at least make their music/concepts as appropriate and uncontroversial as possible. Maybe slightly fewer releases so they can go to school and everything. But this outrage marketing tactic is just so scummy and I hate that instead of protecting the girls (who probably have to deal with enough by just being public figures at such a young age) the company stirrs up controversy just to profit of them. And the worst thing is that it's entirely unnecessary. They will make tons of money nonetheless

Wow this is kind of worrying…

I expected this to have more views

Yo I was just thinking the exact same thing