Ground⬆House Flipping Business
Ground⬆House Flipping Business
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All My House Flipping Mistakes as a Beginner!
Are you sure you want to start House Flipping? Dive into the less glamorous side of house flipping with our latest video, "The Dark Side of House Flipping: 10 Truths You Need to Hear!"
We uncover the stark realities and unexpected challenges that often go unmentioned. From the volatile costs of renovations to the stress of unforeseen delays, this video sheds light on what it really takes to succeed in the flipping business.
Ideal for both beginners and seasoned flippers, we provide essential insights to prepare you for the hurdles of this industry. Whether you're thinking about starting a house flipping business or looking to refine your strategies, don't miss these critical lessons that ...
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House Flip Disaster! They Painted Our Flip the Wrong Color!
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Imagine walking into your latest house flip and finding the walls in the completely wrong color! In today’s video, we dive into a house flipping nightmare where a simple paint job went disastrously wrong. Watch as we navigate the challenges of correcting this massive error, discuss the impacts on our timeline and budget, and share crucial lessons for fellow house flippers. Whether you’re a seas...
OVER BUDGET Disaster on House Flip 5! Can We Recover?
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.21 день назад
In this video, we take you inside our latest house flipping disaster-Flip #5 has gone over budget, and we’re facing some major challenges! Watch as we dive into the mistakes made, unexpected costs, and what it means for our house flipping business. Whether you're just starting out in house flipping for beginners or you're an experienced flipper, there are key lessons to learn about managing a r...
Our 3rd House Flip Is Finished - Time to Stage and Sell!
Просмотров 2,2 тыс.Месяц назад
Well we FINALLY have our 3rd house flip done so today is staging and listing day! you will see a before and after of our investment property home renovation plus all the small details that were NOT finished. Home flipping has its challenges but nothing feels better than getting them ready for sale, OH except when you close on your flip and take that cash! our House flipping business is still so...
Contractor Adds $15k To Budget!
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Well our house flip profits are shrinking before we even got started on renovations. We finally walk the property with the contractor and the ceiling up stairs that caught on fire is going to be way more work than expected. BUT there is a silver lining where we may be able to save thousands of dollars on this home flip and you will find out how in this video. If you want to see our list of reco...
Why You NEVER Accept the Lowest House Flip Bid!
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Today I team up with a seasoned House FLipper to go over a few home renovation budgets from 2 different contractors to see which one we like the most. If you are starting a house flipping business and wanting to learn how to flip a house, finding solid contractors and going through multiple budgets to make sure your numbers are the foundation of flipping houses and we also learn from a seasoned...
I SUCK at House Flipping!
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Well my 2nd house flip did not go as planned. I didnt lose money but definitely didnt get rich either. I made some crucial rookie house flipper mistakes and im still new at growing my house flipping business from the ground up. Watch this video to see where it all went wrong and what you can learn from my home flip! 🚨 Free Hard Money Calculator - l.linklyhq.com/l/1vdsx 🚨 Greatest Property Compi...
How to Legally Avoid Paying Capital Gains on House Flips!
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In this video, you will learn How to Legally Avoid Paying Capital Gains on House Flips! we dive into the complexities of capital gains taxes and how house flipping profits can sometimes be treated as ordinary income. Discover how this tax treatment can potentially lower your tax rate when starting a house flipping business and what you need to know to navigate the IRS rules. Whether you're a se...
Why We are Flipping a New Construction Home!!
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I never thought I would get the chance to flip a new construction home AND have a potential profit of over $100,000! But my main man Hard Money Joe found us a home run house flip that was struck by lightning and caught on fire, now we are going to flip it! I team up with a top real estate investor and home flipper on this one to really learn the true ins and outs of house flipping from a top ho...
Our 3 Flips Got Hit by a Hurricane
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.3 месяца назад
Nothing like have 3 house flips going at one time and a massive hurricane hits them all dead on. Today my wife and I go to all of our flips to check the damage and then we find out our builders risk insurance was cancelled due to non payment. F ME! we are starting a house flipping business from the ground up and today is a true day in the life of a home flipper! 🚨 Free Hard Money Calculator - l...
I Flipped 4 Houses in 6 Months... Biggest Challenges I Faced
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In todays video I answer all YOUR questions that you have asked me about starting a house flipping business from the ground up. I am raw and honest about all the house flipping mistakes i have made so that you can avoid them when you start to flip homes! house flipping for beginners is not for everyone but I have documented every day for 6 months showing all of my home flips and the obstacles I...
CRUCIAL UPDATE: Flipping 3 Homes at Once
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.3 месяца назад
What is it like starting a house flipping business and doing 3 home flips at one time? Well you are going to find out!! Join us for a crucial update as we tackle the challenge of flipping 3 homes at once! In this video, we share our real estate investing journey, offering insights into house flipping mistakes, strategies, home renovation tips, and the ups and downs of managing multiple real est...
House Flip From HELL to Big Winner!
Просмотров 2 тыс.3 месяца назад
This House Flip gave me a full blown panic attack just a few weeks ago. From possibly overpaying, massive budget increase, and the worst termite damage ever to now our house flipping luck has changed! In this video, we reveal the ups and downs of turning a dilapidated investment property into a potential big winner. Whether you're a seasoned house flipper or a curious newbie wanting to get into...
The Real Truth of HOUSE FLIPPING... Selling Isn't As Easy As You Think!
Просмотров 2,1 тыс.3 месяца назад
Well I thought the hard work of House Flipping was the home remodel aspect but apparently selling home flips is equally as challenging! So today we come up with a new listing plan for our investment property to get it sold ASAP! Want to avoid this house flipping mistake? watch this video s about the real truth of house flipping so that you do not make the same mistakes as me when selling a flip...
My Investment Property Is Completely Infested With Termites
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Termites are Destroying real estate investments and houses all over southern states and now moving North! In this video, I take you on a shocking tour of my investment property fix and flip, which has been completely taken over by termites. Watch as I uncover the extent of the infestation and the damage these pests have caused to my house flip. These unexpected house flipping mistakes are not o...
3 Nightmare Scenarios For Your House Flip... I Have Them All
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3 Nightmare Scenarios For Your House Flip... I Have Them All
Unexpected Twist: My Subscriber Wants To Sell Me His Properties!
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Unexpected Twist: My Subscriber Wants To Sell Me His Properties!
I've Been House Flipping for 5 Months... Here's What Happened..
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I've Been House Flipping for 5 Months... Here's What Happened..
Securing Building Permits for our Home Flip (From Start to Finish)
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Securing Building Permits for our Home Flip (From Start to Finish)
Our House Flip Won't Sell!
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Our House Flip Won't Sell!
Craziest House Flipping Day of the Year!
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Craziest House Flipping Day of the Year!
Trying to Buy my 4th Investment Property [Full Vlog Tour]
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Trying to Buy my 4th Investment Property [Full Vlog Tour]
HOUSE FLIPPING TRAGEDY: Consequences of Flipping Houses Without Building PERMITS
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HOUSE FLIPPING TRAGEDY: Consequences of Flipping Houses Without Building PERMITS
I Started a House Flipping Business as a Beginner
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I Started a House Flipping Business as a Beginner
Complete House Flip from Start to Finish as Beginners | See Our Profit!
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Complete House Flip from Start to Finish as Beginners | See Our Profit!
House Flipping DISASTER | House Flip with a SECRET!!
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House Flipping DISASTER | House Flip with a SECRET!!
BUSTED!! FLIPPING HOUSES with No Permits [How to get home renovation permits]
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BUSTED!! FLIPPING HOUSES with No Permits [How to get home renovation permits]
House Flipping Mistakes!!! WE GOT RED TAGGED
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House Flipping Mistakes!!! WE GOT RED TAGGED
A Day of House Flipping as Beginners
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A Day of House Flipping as Beginners
3 Flipped Houses Before and After in 90 Days as Total BEGINNERS!!
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3 Flipped Houses Before and After in 90 Days as Total BEGINNERS!!

Комментарии

  • @lizlixet
    @lizlixet 3 часа назад

    Hey, I watched your first video and saw when you were gathering your team but I’m curious-when you buy properties, do you go through a realtor to make an offer, or do you negotiate directly with the wholesaler? How do you usually handle that part of the process?

  • @lilarmybro50
    @lilarmybro50 22 часа назад

    Watching these in order and I’m curious if you have a video where your accountant can go over how you do your taxes at the end of the year if you’re flipping houses?

    • @grounduphouseflipping
      @grounduphouseflipping 17 часов назад

      I did that! You will see it soon just keep watching them in order!

  • @sightseeingfamily
    @sightseeingfamily День назад

    Thanks for sharing. Just starting this journey and so many things I am nervous about.

  • @jondavidginger
    @jondavidginger 2 дня назад

    I've been a lurker in the real estate investing realm for 6 or 8 years. I partnered with my brother and we have purchased a 2 unit in Indianapolis even though we live in Oregon, but I am fully convinced that I am getting into flipping or wholesaling as soon as the calendar flips to 2025. This has been great content. I appreciate seeing your raw thought process and reactions as things come up because I'm sure I'll be in the same boat in the next few months. I'm looking forward to watching more of these. Thanks for doing this!

  • @balooser38
    @balooser38 2 дня назад

    I don't subscribe to channels, but I did after this video! I was a mortgage broker 20 years ago, and only did one hard money loan on a refi. Throughout my whole career, so I learned some tips and tricks from you, and I'm looking at getting into flipping. Just never thought it was going to be possible. You showed me it is, so I'm going to support your channel. And wish you nothing but growth. I'm getting ready to sell my house. So I'll have some money and I'll see you at the top. Save me a spot next to grant cardone, and Ryan Pineda 😂

  • @edcoleman5330
    @edcoleman5330 2 дня назад

    Hard money

  • @tambiishaq9158
    @tambiishaq9158 2 дня назад

    We have a company in Dubai, UAE and recently we started in Ottawa, Canada we do Design and Build. currently am looking for doing house flipping and property development here in Ottawa or Montreal. we are open for any collaboration.

  • @freemusic2use231
    @freemusic2use231 3 дня назад

    Very useful information for beginners in house flipping business, thanks for your work!

  • @brandonleesanders
    @brandonleesanders 3 дня назад

    I never release my final payment to the contractor until we walk the property and all the loose ends are done. Once you give them their money… good luck getting that trim finished or paint touched up.

  • @malindaproperties
    @malindaproperties 3 дня назад

    Great advice regarding your detailing the budget down to the screw. Also, detailing specifically the contractor's responsibilities and assume nothing. I'm a flipper in North Carolina. Love the channel. What kind of screen are you writing on?

  • @YaoAnne-j7g
    @YaoAnne-j7g 4 дня назад

    !!I recently sold some of my long-term position and currently sitting on about 250k, do you think Nvidia is a good buy right now or I have I missed out on a crucial buy period, any good stock recommendation on great performing stocks will be appreciated.

    • @FederickLeo
      @FederickLeo 4 дня назад

      As a beginner investor, it’s essential for you to have a mentor to keep you accountable. Ruth Ann Tsakonas is my trade analyst, she has guided me to identify key market trends, pinpointed strategic entry points, and provided risk assessments, ensuring my trades decisions align with market dynamics for optimal returns.

    • @SonyaYeva
      @SonyaYeva 4 дня назад

      I managed to grow a nest egg of around 120k to over a Million. I'm especially grateful to Adviser Ruth Ann Tsakonas, for her expertise and exposure to different areas of the market.

    • @FederickLeo
      @FederickLeo 4 дня назад

      I don't really blame people who panic. Lack of information can be a big hurdle. I've been making more than $100k passively by just investing through an advisor, and I don't have to do much work. Inflation or no inflation, my finances remain secure. So I really don't blame people who panic.

    • @SonyaYeva
      @SonyaYeva 4 дня назад

      Without a doubt! Ruth Ann Tsakonas is a trader who goes above and beyond. she has an exceptional skill for analyzing market movements and spotting profitable opportunities. Her strategies are meticulously crafted based on thorough research and years of practical experience.

    • @YaoAnne-j7g
      @YaoAnne-j7g 4 дня назад

      nice!! once you hit a big milestone, the next comes easier.. How can i reach her, if you don't mind me asking?

  • @raymondrazo6993
    @raymondrazo6993 4 дня назад

    Can you share the budget spreadsheet you use?

  • @MishkanCenter
    @MishkanCenter 4 дня назад

    My biggest fear is not finding a good contractor and not knowing up front a specific issue in the house im buying. Inspectors only go so far. If i had a GC I could trust to do a good bid up front and timely, satisfactory work. I'd be so confident.

    • @malindaproperties
      @malindaproperties 3 дня назад

      Get at least 3 bids and NEVER give any money to one upfront. You will have to buy them some supplies to start the job, but you shouldn't be paying any labor upfront. Once they complete something then you can pay them something. You can discuss the payout schedule with the GC and agree together.

    • @MishkanCenter
      @MishkanCenter 3 дня назад

      @malindaproperties thanks! So do we have them put a bunch of supplies in an online cart and we pay and have it delivered? What about their discounts?

    • @malindaproperties
      @malindaproperties 3 дня назад

      @@MishkanCenter You can get Lowes Pro and HomeDepot pro cards for free yourself. I signed up for the pro cards in store, but I believe you can do them online. You'll accumulate points which can be used as gift cards or credit on a future purchases. Not every contractor get discounts. Now, when they/contractor needed to purchase the cashier(Lowes) would email a list of everything the contractor wanted to buy. Then they would call me to get the payment if I approved everything they wanted to buy. They can look up your Pro account on the phone, so you get credit for the purchase. I got to know some of the pro associates and they would sometimes give you extra discounts, so go there a few time so they recognize you at the pro desk. It depends on the item, but some items you need to see fell measure touch and they aren't great to do online. Yes, you can have the online items delivered. If I can answer anymore questions let me know. I know how intimidating doing this can be.

  • @nneisler
    @nneisler 4 дня назад

    ARV - after repair value

  • @levertis1987
    @levertis1987 4 дня назад

    I’am a house flipper in Pensacola

    • @nneisler
      @nneisler 4 дня назад

      How’s it going down there?

    • @levertis1987
      @levertis1987 4 дня назад

      @@nneisler it’s not to good I have a townhouse in fort Walton beach that’s been sitting. Properties are sitting like crazy. How is it in your market

  • @AberrantArt
    @AberrantArt 4 дня назад

    Wholesalers that actually have deals that pencil out are near impossible to find.

    • @mbruce2106
      @mbruce2106 3 дня назад

      As a wholesaler in Nebraska, I completely agree. Very tough for everyone out there. At least in this current Nebraska market.

    • @David-td5po
      @David-td5po 3 дня назад

      Exactly, and here in Houston you even have wholesalers putting ON MARKET houses under contract and trying to wholesale them like that. That needs to be illegal.

  • @AC-qo8oq
    @AC-qo8oq 4 дня назад

    I also never had a panic attack until I did multiple high end flips, major plumbing issues, over budget, inspector on my behind, now back on market two times in one month in this uncertain market with HML payments, while working FT & with a baby, it’s been awful.

    • @AberrantArt
      @AberrantArt 4 дня назад

      Where did you find your deals?

    • @nneisler
      @nneisler 4 дня назад

      Try to relax and enjoy the process

    • @malindaproperties
      @malindaproperties 3 дня назад

      Good luck to you. I understand how stressful it can be.

  • @AC-qo8oq
    @AC-qo8oq 4 дня назад

    Omg subs and contractors must be the most unluckiest since their everybody dies, gets sick or car is broken. 😒😜🤣every day, pick one of the above. I use to write every cent down, it gets too much, I just now use one card per flip.

  • @SunniSide1
    @SunniSide1 4 дня назад

    Awesome video! I will be in the DFW market and my greatest fear is just getting started. I have a perfectionist personality and if I don’t know every little detail that ensures success I just don’t ever get started 🥲

  • @Powr4
    @Powr4 4 дня назад

    How much doe would you recommend coming in Jackson? Thanks for this information

    • @AberrantArt
      @AberrantArt 4 дня назад

      35% of purchase + rehab. If it's 150k purchase and 50k rehab have 70k cash

  • @carolina7153
    @carolina7153 4 дня назад

    My husband wants to get into flipping houses, he has 15 years working in construction. He wants me to become a real state agent or broker. Do you think this will help up get started? Thank you

    • @nneisler
      @nneisler 4 дня назад

      Not necessary. However if feel that you would be the sales agent and you want to do that - go ahead. Otherwise you just hire an agent to get your house sold

  • @studstur
    @studstur 4 дня назад

    This channel is awesome, I've really enjoyed your journey. Q: I've been practicing running comps for a while now and I feel pretty good about getting to a solid ARV, but due to a complete lack of experience, I have no real way of estimating things like reno, holding, closing costs. Does anyone have advise for a newbie. I'm in the central AL area and would love to have someone, in my area or not, that'd be willing to let me pick their brain on small things.

    • @tiffanylee8457
      @tiffanylee8457 4 дня назад

      What city in Alabama are you in

    • @studstur
      @studstur 16 часов назад

      @@tiffanylee8457 Wetumpka. Montgomery is my target market tho

  • @mukenamukeba3944
    @mukenamukeba3944 4 дня назад

    Great content so far you are very knowledgeable. Telling the truth # big fan Thanks ( Mike M../ Orlando)

  • @RobRobz
    @RobRobz 4 дня назад

    🙇🏻‍♂️

  • @nicolaszucal9766
    @nicolaszucal9766 4 дня назад

    Thanks for the new upload! Loving this channel!!! Hard money loan question: In order to start, is the total amount of liquidity I need to have saved in my bank = “estimated liquidity”+“Borrower cash due at signing?”

    • @Y_Alexandra
      @Y_Alexandra 4 дня назад

      With Liquidity they just want to see the bank statements that you have the liquid cash. For example we bought a home with hard money for $260k. They lend us $55k for rehab as well. They asked us to show them $90k liquid. Our borrowers cash due at closing was $39k

    • @nicolaszucal9766
      @nicolaszucal9766 4 дня назад

      @@Y_Alexandra thank you very much! That’s exactly what I was wanting to know.

    • @Y_Alexandra
      @Y_Alexandra 4 дня назад

      @@nicolaszucal9766 i’m glad it helps. It sounds very confusing at first but once you’re in, it’s all pretty straight forward. Good luck!

    • @nneisler
      @nneisler 4 дня назад

      Depending on the hard money lender you’ll need to cash flow the repairs - because they will reimburse you as work gets done. So if the repair is 100k, you might need 25k to pay up front and get reimbursed 4 times.

    • @nicolaszucal9766
      @nicolaszucal9766 4 дня назад

      @@Y_Alexandra how did the flip go? Were you profitable?

  • @trycep4217
    @trycep4217 7 дней назад

    Hey Jackson, great video!! This is super helpful, thank you! Can you drop the line item budget please. TIA 😊

  • @Enjoytherideorcrash
    @Enjoytherideorcrash 7 дней назад

    But even with a hard money loan you still need to use your own money for a down payment right? If they are only giving 75 ltv?

  • @tydowney999
    @tydowney999 8 дней назад

    Dude, love the content. I have my first one waiting for title work to clear and looking for a second. 100% you motivated me to get off the couch and make it happen. I was wondering if I could get Money Mikes contact info I live in Kansas. Thanks!

  • @tydowney999
    @tydowney999 8 дней назад

    Can I get Money Mikes info? I live in Kansas.

  • @phillipsstoneinvestorllc
    @phillipsstoneinvestorllc 9 дней назад

    Hard money

  • @bootsbooy
    @bootsbooy 9 дней назад

    what happened to the original contractor?

  • @tedmorris2122
    @tedmorris2122 9 дней назад

    Great stuff! Thanks for being so open. As a person just getting into fix/flipping it helps to learn from real information and not from the "guru's". Best of luck on all you do and hope you keep cranking out houses, profit and content.

  • @ALASKASCHOICEMUSICVIDEOS
    @ALASKASCHOICEMUSICVIDEOS 10 дней назад

    💯💪🏼

  • @Dominick-l4p
    @Dominick-l4p 10 дней назад

    Great content! You motivated me enough to be buying my 1st flip here soon. I submitted an app for hard money thru hard money joe. How long does it take for him to reach back out? I need to get this property under contract asap

    • @MrJoeycooksey
      @MrJoeycooksey 10 дней назад

      What market/city are you investing in?

  • @Texasprodumpsters
    @Texasprodumpsters 10 дней назад

    Man I have been binge watching all your videos from start last couple days. Have finally decided to jump in and I have been in contact with a couple hard money lenders now. I’m in DFW area.

  • @cathymc116
    @cathymc116 10 дней назад

    Beige is back. Live with it

  • @philmaro84
    @philmaro84 11 дней назад

    Kind of like it when trim and paint are different

  • @PadreDProductions
    @PadreDProductions 11 дней назад

    I just did a remodel on my own house and this makes me cringe it really is a disaster. I like your idea though and you should do it for yourself literally post a scope of work somewhere in the house where all of the contractors and subcontractors can look at it.

  • @stonecrestquilt
    @stonecrestquilt 11 дней назад

    Grey is out anyway

  • @Edward.Minaya
    @Edward.Minaya 11 дней назад

    I am all caught up on Ground Up University footage, lol 😂

  • @AmezcuaREI
    @AmezcuaREI 11 дней назад

    I know it’s hard, and I can completely understand wanting to play nice, but you’ve gotta be more commanding on those calls when the project manager or general contractor makes a mistake. If you said the walls need to be all white, you tell them I’m at the house, the walls are beige, when are you going to reschedule them to come back and paint them white? Once they give you a date, you confirm that it’s not going to cost anything additional since it was their mistake. Very simple, straight to the point.

  • @MiroBG359
    @MiroBG359 11 дней назад

    that "luxury" viny plastic floor emitting fumes for years

  • @jdubwo4220
    @jdubwo4220 11 дней назад

    great stuff

  • @AC-qo8oq
    @AC-qo8oq 12 дней назад

    Yeah idk why they always lack any common sense. I have written texts with exact colors and sheen, they painted the ceiling high gloss!! Wtf?!!! Bought wrong paint color. Every thing you have to monitor them like babies and for what? 15k profit, after everybody mofo, realtor, taxes, sellers credits, stress

  • @branwaves449
    @branwaves449 12 дней назад

    Love your content I’m currently in my first flip it’s week one with the rehab. As soon as I leave the site and handle business I watch your channel. Just to make sure I’m doing this correct!

    • @AC-qo8oq
      @AC-qo8oq 12 дней назад

      Enjoy demo. That’s the easy, fun stage.

  • @shawnashaw1282
    @shawnashaw1282 12 дней назад

    Im looking to do my first flip, thanks for documenting everything so that I know what to do and what not to do. To me, it seems like the contractors are clueless even tho they've been told what to do.

    • @SK-lf1cr
      @SK-lf1cr 12 дней назад

      @@shawnashaw1282 yep,prepare for extra expenses every time. Remember you make the money when you buy not when you sell

  • @titafromtexas
    @titafromtexas 12 дней назад

    Oh man I hope they fixed the paint. Sometimes I would think it's lighting but can't go wrong with white

  • @Middleguy37
    @Middleguy37 12 дней назад

    Dude , seriously. Its all about what was written down in the contract between you and the contractor. It's laughable you think a video of the first walk through where everyone is talking here and there would somehow hold up. Lame

  • @sashap8222
    @sashap8222 13 дней назад

    This video taught me to put everything in writing and in two copies, one for me and a second for them. Also, just because your friend is super cool does not mean that everyone he recommends is also cool. It is okay to be a control freak when big money is involved. It is better to be careful instead of being sorry. Thank you for the video!

  • @amymontondo8127
    @amymontondo8127 13 дней назад

    A lot of great info. Did they end up telling you what color they used? just wondering so I don't use it.