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David Page
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Mr. Spock, the Bass Player?
In TOS episode 58 "The Paradise Syndrome" Dr. McCoy makes a house call at Mr. Spock's quarters. Gerald Fried's brief music cue M54 "Check Up" got me wondering about "continuity" of what we hear to what we see.
Tommy Tedesco plays the track, but Mr. Spock plays a PipeDream Fretworks Chopped 6 electric bass.
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Tommy Tedesco plays the track, but Mr. Spock plays a PipeDream Fretworks Chopped 6 electric bass.
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Scoring Star Trek 18: "Spectre Of The Gun" by Jerry Fielding
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First, thanks for everyone's patience and support in my self-imposed exile, then for the long time needed to put this thing together. I truly didn't realize how much there was in this original score by Jerry Fielding until getting into it! Then it was peeling back layers and layers. Second, Jerry Fielding's work just astounds. I hope you'll agree that his command of tonal and atonal theory, his...
"Spectre Of The Gun" Cue M61/61A: Shoot Out Pt. 2/Kirk Wins!
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The climactic final confrontation between the Enterprise officers (as the Clanton Gang) and the Earps at the OK Corral. A significant portion of Jerry Fielding's original score was omitted in the final broadcast edit, but it is restored here with enhanced audio.
"Spectre Of The Gun" Cue M32: Draw Clanton
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My sabbatical is drawing to an end, and I am now deep into study and analysis of Jerry Fielding's incredible score for "Spectre Of The Gun". Interesting that so many of you have commented that it's one of your favorites, and interested in seeing what I come up with! (No pressure...) Here's a bit of a "teaser". Kirk as Ike Clanton in the Earps' office, and his friendly visit doesn't go well. At ...
SUITE: Mary of Magdala - Tower Of Strength
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Hello to our wonderful Scoring Star Trek community! As you guys know, I've been away to work on a project with my church, and - finally - the music portion is complete. Well it has been for a while, and we've been developing the other elements - scripting and recording the narrative, collecting the artwork and images for a video presentation with this as the musical underscore. With this now do...
Scoring Star Trek SABBATICAL '24
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Dave's taking a little time off to work on another music project. Not a bad reason to take a little time. Be back soon!
Scoring Star Trek 17: Musica Aggiuntiva Part 1
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"Additional" or "Other" music. Ever thought about the numerous musical exceptions of Star Trek? Probably the most well known example is the usage of "Good Night, Sweetheart" as source music as Kirk and Edith stroll past the radio shop in "The City On The Edge Of Forever", and then adapted by Fred Steiner for dramatic scoring. Since I've already done an entire video on that masterpiece, here is ...
Scoring Star Trek Part 16 - Fred Steiner: Ep 50 - By Any Other Name
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With great consistency the late Fred Steiner provided nothing less than outstanding scores for original Star Trek, catching "the inner spirit" of the series, to quote producer Bob Justman. "Pesante", "Funebre", "Agitato" - Musical expression markings I hadn't seen before looking into this music that was composed, performed, and recorded the "old school" way - pen and manuscript, real musicians,...
Killer Cues! Scoring Star Trek: Fred Steiner's "By Any Other Name"
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This is a short demonstration of how two musical cues from TOS Ep 50 "By Any Other Name" were tracked in several of the immediately following episodes of season 2. Fred Steiner's masterful music is just as potent in each tracked setting as it is in the original. Music copyright CBS CID. For informational purposes only.
A Very Tribble Christmas
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For those who missed this last year... I love classics. Those voices and arrangements that we've known all our lives are friends that never fails us. Bing Crosby's performance of "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" is one of them. In the 1944 movie "Meet Me In St. Louis", Judy Garland sings it to her character's little sister at a breaking point for their family. It is tinged with melancho...
Making "Poor Jonesy" - Scoring Star Trek Companion Video
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A deep dive into Jerry Fielding's classic music cue from TOS Ep 42 "The Trouble With Tribbles". We look at the original soundtrack recording of both orchestra and the over-dubbed trombone quartet that performed the tribble "leitmotif" - and the studio techniques to get it done.
Scoring Star Trek 15: Composer Jerry Fielding Ep 42 "The Trouble With Tribbles"
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Here's a deep look at another veteran film composer who brought his talent and innovation to Star Trek - Jerry Fielding. His partial score for fan-favorite "The Trouble With Tribbles" gives us some of the most memorable music of the series, but also shows his ingenuity in creating the musical motif for the little fur balls by utilizing available studio "tricks" of the day and some very talented...
Score Transcription - M35 Bartender Bit
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This has been as much fun to transcribe as it has been to watch all these decades! In the bar on Space Station K-7, as the bartender piles up his "collection" of tribbles, Jerry Fielding's wonderful "Bartender Bit" is a perfect match. From Episode 42 "The Trouble With Tribbles".
Scoring Star Trek 14: George Duning, and the Hollywood Horns
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A double feature! This special edition first explores some of the most important session musicians of Star Trek - the French horns! An historic look at the unique place these players held in American music production. THEN - a deep look into George Duning's partial score for TOS episode 51 "Return To Tomorrow"
Scoring Star Trek - Year Two Review 2022-23
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Another year?? Just checking in with an annual (sort-of) update.
Star Trek Ep 51 Cue 34-40: Thalassa Recalls
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Star Trek Ep 51 Cue 34-40: Thalassa Recalls
Scoring Star Trek Part 13: George Duning - Metamorphosis
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Scoring Star Trek Part 13: George Duning - Metamorphosis
Star Trek Ep 31 CUE M31: Cochrane Calls
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Star Trek Ep 31 CUE M31: Cochrane Calls
Scoring Star Trek Part 12: Gerald Fried's "Friday's Child" Episode 32
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Scoring Star Trek Part 12: Gerald Fried's "Friday's Child" Episode 32
Star Trek TOS Ep 45 - Tracked Music Opening
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Star Trek TOS Ep 45 - Tracked Music Opening
Star Trek Ep 32 CUE M26: Call Of Duty
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Star Trek Ep 32 CUE M26: Call Of Duty
Scoring Star Trek Part 11 - Gerald Fried's "Catspaw" Ep 30
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Scoring Star Trek Part 11 - Gerald Fried's "Catspaw" Ep 30
Scoring Star Trek - Killer Cue: "Rescue" by Gerald Fried
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Scoring Star Trek - Killer Cue: "Rescue" by Gerald Fried
Star Trek Ep 32 CUE M22: Distress Signal
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Star Trek Ep 32 CUE M22: Distress Signal
Tune Sleuth 3: Steiner - Twice Upon A Theme
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Tune Sleuth 3: Steiner - Twice Upon A Theme
Scoring Star Trek: Killer Cues! Fred Steiner Ep33
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Scoring Star Trek: Killer Cues! Fred Steiner Ep33
Scoring Star Trek Part 10: Fred Steiner - "Who Mourns For Adonais"
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Scoring Star Trek Part 10: Fred Steiner - "Who Mourns For Adonais"
That was great except for the end. Wrong clef symbol.
😄 Dohh!
No way Spock plays a 6-string solid body bass. He's more of a 4-string Höfner Violin Bass kind of guy.
Ehh, maybe so. Mid-60's and McCartney on the rise!
The thing about Moody Blues "Day of Future Past" is that all the orchestral recordings were reported missing. Maybe you can do a review on that album and it's orchestral pieces. Just a suggestion.
When I was just getting to know my scoring platform (MuseScore) back in 2020, at the height of the COVID pandemic when many of us had a lot of time on our hands, I took on scoring "Nights In White Satin" just because I love it, and the richness of the orchestration. That was a significant set of lessons on both how to use the technology, and how to listen and transcribe music. I wasn't aware those original recordings were missing. Interesting. I might take a look at NIWS again.. that was four years ago. I think I've improved since then!
@@davidpage9355 That is interesting. Well I hope you can lead the way maybe to find out what happened to those tracks. They were composed by (I think) Howard Blake who went on to do Flash Gordon's incidental music from that 1980's movie.
Haha, very random! Actually it puts me in mind of something from Fried's most celebrated episode and score, Amok Time. Having finally completed my collection of the soundtrack reissues (yay!), I noticed something in Fried's score for Amok Time that I'd never noticed before. The bass guitar is the instrument that represents Spock as you said in your video for that episode, and what I noticed it, at the start of act 4, right before Kirk & Spock actually start fighting, in the music that sets the scene in preparation, there's a little flourish on the bass guitar that sends out the message, Spock is ready for this!
Fried wouldn't miss a detail like that!
@@davidpage9355 hearing the soundtracks in isolation has been a real eye-opener in how much new stuff I've learned about the music. I've wanted to have this music on CD for over 25yrs, and now I do have it all, it feels weird! (Plus it enabled me to finally identify what all the tracked credits should have been!)
Hahaha, that's adorable!
That was the thing about that instrument. I always thought it was capable of more than a harp sound. It's like a synthesizer.
They probably didn't want to over-use it, so it saw limited screen time. When Spock "accompanies" Uhura singing "Where My Heart Is", the audio track has Hammond organ swelling in behind the actual harp part. Just as you're saying, there's more than just a harp/lyre to that instrument. And it's well beyond MIDI too, I would guess..
All of a sudden Spock starts singing Nights in White Satin.
“Sub space messages I’ve written….never meaning to send…”
@@historybuff66 LOL!
Ha ha! Good one.
Spock & McCoy arguing, now that is what I call Moody Blues!
@@dressinggownsessions7296 which leads to the ultimate slice with Spock saying: "Tell Doctor McCoy, he should have wished me luck."
Brahahahahaha
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Funny!
The music in this episode is beautiful.
Thank you, Mr. Page, for turning the spotlight to this often under-appreciated and great composer.
I wish the mirror universe existed but unfortunately it doesn’t exist. I know it’s horrible place. I have a dream of the mirror universe and I was I my mirror counterpart and I joined be in imperial star fleet I’m Captain’ woman my wife she is my ship nurse. My chief medical officer in my Mother.
Her rank is Lt.
Many thanks for this compilation of musical comfort food!
Thank you very much for the video, I loved Star Trek when it came to Great Britain in 1969, although I often missed episodes because of choir practice. Over the years, I've come to realise that it was also the music I loved as well. Your technical explanations are excellent, so I have learnt so much
Really appreciate your comments, thanks. And I missed a lot due to choir practices, too! But eventually, I made it to the UK in summer of '72 as part of the Phoenix (AZ) Boys Choir!
@davidpage9355 I hope the tour went well. Unfortunately, my voice broke in 1972 and I lost all my range, but that's life. I'm currently working on a large project of my own making, and with regards to the music required, your videos are invaluable.
A sensational score, one of my favourite scores out of all television, and cinema scores
This wonderful score also highlights just how poor some of the music on shows like ST: Strange New Worlds is, which sound dull and listless, and arexsimply not efited properly to match the action.
I wrote that this score resembled Jaws about 14 years ago. I even started editing it into the Jaws finale
Actually, this is not one of my favorite Star Trek scores. Pardon me, for my question is a little off-topic. I prefer the emphasis on simple melodic structure and texture of the first two seasons. Much like the difference between Star Wars A New Hope and the Empire Strikes Back. A New Hope has a smaller orchestra, stronger melodies and rhythm, and the instruments sound close mic’d. Whereas Empire is both more harmonically complex, yet smoother with less texture, and sounds far mic’d. To my ear the first and second season recording quality is more preferable than the third season. Have you done any research on the gear used? To my ear, it seems the first and second seasons were using the same gear, but for the third season one or more things seem to have changed. Was it the recording studio? Microphones? Mixing board? Engineer? Producer? I definitely hear a difference- how about you?
Very interesting observation. Glad you mentioned it, because I hadn't really noticed before. Of course, I'm not privy to the details of room, gear, effects, etc. I believe they were using the same Desilu sound stage as in the first two seasons. I did read that Fred Steiner had made significant changes in orchestra set up for his sessions that would better utilize the room characteristics - the tympani had been set up in a spot where there was high ceiling, but the strings were in an area with a lower ceiling, or something like that. Just by looking he could tell the strings would sound much better where the tympani were, and the tympani would be fine anywhere - maybe even better under the lower ceiling.. that kind of thing, and my ear can really detect a difference in his "sound". As far as season three specifically all I can suggest is that budget was a major factor across the board, and perhaps this presented some issues relating to poorer sound quality. I may come across something more firm.. and will let you know! Thanks
I really enjoy your channel. I'm not a musician but can read music. I just found your channel a few weeks ago. I have wondered what it would have been like to be in the studio when they record the music and this give me an idea how it would have been.
Cool! Glad you found it. Thanks! I have been in many recording situations, but none like what these cats did. Just walk in, sight unseen, and play the music which, in most cases, was quite complex. Just amazing musicianship! Appreciate the comment. 🖖
Thank you for this series. It strikes such a deep emotional place as I was such a trekkie for so many years.
Ruth seemed a little mature. I just learned the actress Shirley Bonne who played Ruth was 32 to William Shatner's 35 in 1966. So if she hadn't aged in 15 years, as Kirk claimed, then Kirk at 20 was having a relationship with a 32-year-old. Some people interpreted his stunned disbelief to the character having died, though back on Earth she'd be 47, which could explain it. I guess she's from whom he learned poetry, romance and other things. I loved the theme "Ruth" used when Mr. Spock breaks up with Leila in "This Side of Paradise." She said they couldn't have anything together six years ago on Earth or anywhere. The following season we would learn Vulcans go into Pon Farr every seven years, so that would also line up with his time on Earth with Leila. What's also interesting is the "Ruth" theme seems to change after 50 seconds (where your presentation ends and "Shore Leave" cuts to commercial) to something a little different in "This Side of Paradise" before returning to the former at the 2 minute mark. ruclips.net/video/JmRvnvTgS7U/видео.html
Very thoughtful. Hmm ... I always took that the person representing Ruth, or indeed Finnegan, were not actually the real Ruth or Finnegan. Rather, these had been manufactured by the planet, as the Black Knight had been. This would explain - in the case of Ruth and Finnegan - why they weren't any older. Seems to me, anyway. But Leila and Spock - that's the real deal!
@@davidpage9355 Yes. But Kirk didn't know they were robots.
Outstanding and informative video! Thank you so much for the care and effort you put into this. (P.S. I wonder if you have heard the Tony Bremner recording done in the late 80s? I thought it was very well done.)
I have not heard it. True confession - your mention is the first I've heard of Mr. Bremner. Will have to check him out! Thank you.
Two quick facts; 1) the Sheriff sign is in the Star Trek font ;) 2) sorry, if this has been mentioned, but DeForest Kelly played Doc Holliday in a 65mm western about the OK corral.
Great observation on the sign font. I had to go back and look. The "S" and "H" don't adhere to the slanted cross-member so much, but the rest sure does! Cool. I did a side-by-side collage.. now if I can just figure out how to post a .jpg image : - /
Good to have you back! This episode was my first encounter with the tale of Tombstone. Yup, I also thought the real life good guys were the bad guys too!
David, your labor of love was, to this crazed TV music fan, a splendid massage for ear and psyche! Very edifying and engrossing commentary here-I thoroughly enjoyed every minute, which flew by as fast as a Melkot clock, by the way… I’m very much looking forward to more learned discourse with your next video focusing on “The Paradise Syndrome”. Any chance you may one day in the future break down the various scores written for “The Twilight Zone” (F. Steiner, Jerry Goldsmith, Bernard Herrmann) and “The Outer Limits” (Dominic Frontiere)?
Well, I suppose at some point we will exhaust the music from Trek and start to look elsewhere. Those are both very good suggestions 👌🖖
@@davidpage9355-Yes, I’d really appreciate a Bernard Herrmann analysis!
Never in a million years would I have guessed that the Tribble motif was played by trombones! It’s amazing how much there is still to learn from this old series. “Trek” seemed to have brought out a lot of creativity in its composers.
hi .. very enjoyable. Nice detective work Mr. Hill. (Get the reference?)
Great video. Thank you.
Huh. Reminds me of the Jaws theme, released 7 years after this episode premiered. What a coincidence.
I never noticed until now, but when the Earps and Doc Holliday vanish, the horse in the left background remains!
The horse was getting double SAG scale... Ha ha!
Gene Coon originally wrote this as more of a comedy, which the third season executive producer didn’t much care for in the context of science fiction. (There was a scene where Kirk and Co. attempt to ride horses out of the OK Corral. The horses make it through the Melkotian force field, but not our heroes, leading Spock to point out, logically, that Kirk is not a horse, ergo. . .) Not my favorite show, but it has its own weirdly unique, surreal vibe, that makes it a guilty pleasure.
Wow, I was pleasant pleased to find this video here, and like so many others of yours, this was just a great one to see. Cheers!
Many thanks!
I once dated Jerry Fielding’s daughter. Knew her for years without knowing her father was a studio composer. Learning that he wrote the Trimble theme was the coolest.
Wow cool story!
HE’S BAAAACK!!!
We had music education in primary school. It bored me to death and I had absolutely no interest. After years of instruction, I couldn’t tell a half note from a whole note. But to see how it was used to underscore one of my favorite TOS episodes was fascinating!
Love it. Makes this all worthwhile. Thank you.
In cue M22 at 17:50, confirming the celli play B and E in bar 3? Not Bb and Eb per the trombone?
Ooh you're good! I listened to that over and over, and I truly hear a dissonance in that range. Maybe one of the cellists was a bit sharp on the tremolo, unintentional dissonance, and they let it slide. But that's how I hear it, for sure. Great catch Lukas! Of course I have no way of knowing what was on the real score. But I wouldn't put it past Fielding to do something like that. Thanks for watching.
@@davidpage9355 Thank you for all your videos. I helped produce the La-La Land CD releases. Truly impressive that you are doing this all by ear. I was able to look at the actual scores at CBS when researching for our album production but didn't have time to do more than check the cue titles and things like that.
@@lukaskendall You, Neil and Jeff have certainly been a huge help. I couldn't imagine seeing the actuals as a course of study - like, where would you start?? OMG. But I love the challenge and process, and have learned a lot from these guys! Thank you Lukas 🖖It would be fun to compare my stuff to the real thing and see if I'm even close!
Have to say, I've always enjoyed Spectre's score, but, as usual, after your video, I respect and marvel at it even more! Can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to The Paradise Syndrome - my single favorite Trek score of any era!
My take is that Jerry Fielding got a plum assignment. I think it's pretty generous to call the visual approach stylized. As a kid I found the mileu pretty silly, even now I think it's a bit of a head scratcher, aesthetics wise.
The score is front and center, and is carrying a lot of the dramatic load. Of the episodes that involve overpowered aliens, I think this one is the least interesting, mostly because the aliens don't have much of a presence. Anyway, it's better than a fistful of datas!
16:03 harmonium, maybe?
Could be. The credits don't specify accordion or harmonium. But the pianist, John Latimer, could have played either, I suppose.
Your history of the OK Corral "incident" is accurate. 👍 Yes, "Spectre" is one of the best of the 3rd season. Has a slight Twilight Zone feel to it.
Agreed! "A dimension of sight. A dimension of mind." A signpost ahead - "The Tombstone Zone". Ha!
Thank you David. George Duning was a remarkable composer and he is one of those almost forgotten contributors to "Star Trek" that made it so different and so outstanding.
Excellent - in some ways, Spectre of the gun is one of my favorites, and the music is part of the reason why.
Many thanks for another brilliant analysis. I envy your command of both music and Star Trek. Looking forward to your next video. Best of health to you and yours.
So kind. Many thanks!
@@davidpage9355 You deserve praise. Many thanks again.
I like your intro. But you don't need the toothpick gag. The pencil on paper is funnier, anyway. 🙃
LoL - we left out the third option - drawing water out of a pail...
Superb. The music knocked me out from the first time I saw SOTG. Thanks for covering it brilliantly.
Love this analysis of the music of one of my favorite Star Trek episodes! Thank you!
Welcome back David! Wow, you've really got caught up in the detail of this one! Justified my making breakfast to have while watching this clip! A few thoughts assembled (and not edited much!) while watching: Interesting recap on the actual gunfight. Makes me wonder how it got so twisted in the actual telling. Hollywood up to their usual tricks, maybe? It's certainly a very evocative description, "Gunfight at the OK Corral" (only OK though?!?) and makes for a change from the typical street setting. Of course history is written by the victors, and the Earps had plenty of time to embellish the tale afterwards. As for the music, that bit you describe as an accordion, I think you could be right, and secondly, when you played it on piano there it reminded me of the intro to Band On The Run! Come to think of it, I'd love to hear When I'm Sixty-Four on a tacked piano! That dissonance of the semitone interval for "Chekov Gets Killed" makes me think of Psycho! (Btw have you ever played the Psycho and Jaws themes together?) When it comes to music from later episodes being tracked into earlier ones, I can think of a few instances, The Corbomite Maneuver's score was heard in Miri in season 1, while season 2 had Mirror, Mirror using cues from The Doomsday Machine and Catspaw, while Fielding's own music for The Trouble With Tribbles first got heard in Journey To Babel. And of course we've talked about the By Any Other Name/Patterns Of Force potential for confusion before! I'm never sure if Johnny Behan says to Kirk, "kill them, any way you can!" or "kill them anyway, you can!" I am sure however, that the Bourbon is called TALOS Lightning - a nod to planet Talos IV whose inhabitants had similar telepathic powers! I love Spectre Of The Gun. It's another great example of Gene L. Coon's writing! Casting our heroes as the losing side in a historical battle and forcing them to come up with a way to win. I've described this episode as a cross between The Corbomite Maneuver (which was before he joined but I've always felt would have benefitted from his touch) and Arena (which was his first writing credit and a brilliant one at that), with maybe a touch of either Shore Leave or The Cage. "Very dead" is one of my favourite twists on McCoy's line, and "he wanted to kill but he didn't" is a theme from many of Coon's episodes, notably Arena again and A Taste Of Armageddon. The Paradise Syndrome next, you say? I think the music from that had even fewer reuses than Fielding's music here! Cliffhanger themes for Wink Of An Eye and The Savage Curtain, maybe one other, I forget, and the Spock theme in Turnabout Intruder are all I can think of. - Liam.
@@dressinggownsessions7296 Thanks Liam. This one took a while! As for the bottle of Bourbon, there is a city in the state of New Mexico named "Taos". But never occured to me how similar it is to Talos! For that matter, how about "tacos"? 😆🖖
@@davidpage9355 I stand corrected! I just checked the episode, and it's a bit ambiguous, so I searched online, and there was a Taos Lightning made originally in 1820! For this I can blame the Nitpicker's Guide For Classic Trekkers, which I received as a birthday present in I think 1996. The author there listed that moment in the syndication cuts section, and referred to it as an in-joke by the makers, he identified the name as Talos Lightning. Not knowing about Taos, I never had any reason to doubt what I'd read until now! Even when I saw the cue title on the CD I presumed it to be a typo. Now I know better!
Yep! and I'm sure you could school all of us on every town in the UK. That area of New Mexico - Santa Fe, Angle Fire, Taos - is just spectacular.
I've been waiting for you to do this one forever, and you really did it justice! I love so much about this score-the strangeness present even in the quietest moments, the use of stings to build tension, that amazing upside-down version of "Buffalo Gals" in parallel fifths. But what really gets me is how the music does a slow boil to impending crisis in the climactic scene. And that harmonica, my God, I learned so much about this score. This was wroth the wait.
Have loved this score since I was kid-thank you for the analysis!