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@@OksDingus The rain drop does not feel responsible for the flood. You and your kin are not at fault, friend. Fuck Gavrilo though, straight to the boiler room of Hell that guy

Also, V1 is the only machine (that we know of) that is capable of instantly healing from blood by directly absorbing it through its body plating. The other machines probably have to go through some sort of complicated process to collect the blood and turn it useful, V2 has to escape our first encounter simply because we punched so many holes into him that he needed to refuel somewhere else, compare that to V1 who can literally just punch him and instantly repair. I like to imagine that, since V1 is constantly dousing himself with fresh blood, it somehow gives him more "vitality" and is what allows him to be so speedy and quick on his thinking, it might be what makes him more "alive" compared to the other machines, since he's basically drinking straight from the source all the time. Basically, fresher blood = better quality blood = better magical life-giving properties maybe??

This is something that always confuses me. Were Minos and Sisyphus husks (undead people) or humans that were transported to hell?? We have paintings of both what Minos and Sisyphus looked like when they were "alive". But if they were already in hell, why are their husks so normal and human-like? Is it just because they were notable kings and so their husks were basically perfectly formed? Furthermore, were Minos and Sisyphus ALWAYS giants, or did their corpses only get like that AFTER their second death as husks by the hands of Gabriel?? Because if their husks only got like that AFTER they died, it would imply that they were normal humans before, since the size of a husk is determined by how notable you were during your human life. It wouldn't make sense for Minos and Sisyphus to be human sized husks and then turn giant just after Gabriel killed them. And this isn't even taking the Prime Souls into consideration. Are the prime souls human souls or Husk souls?? Does this mean that Sisyphus and Minos basically died three times?? I I AM CONFUSION!!

@qwertydavid8070 @qwertydavid8070 Q1: they were husks. Minos was a king before he died, and as a husk, he became the judge of hell, most likely because he was a fair ruler. sinners and demons working for heaven isn't a new thing. look at the idols, ferrymen, (maybe) cerberi (because they are guardians of hell) and minos. their portraits could be from when they were alive, but they most likely looked human as husks because of their fame and power. the reason their corpses don't look human is because those aren't husks. They're orpses of husks and therefore rotten. Q2: Yes, the more fame and willpower = bigger and better husks. they were giants who helped their people. Q3: Husk souls human souls are the same. humans die, their souls go to hell and are born as husks. yes, they died three times. once on earth, once in hell, killed by Gabriel and another time in hell killed by V1. and every other husk has died twice.

1. They manifested in Hell as Husks, and because of how they were seen in the eyes of others and the magnitude of their willpower, they manifested with Husks that were gigantic, fully capable of sapient thought and autonomy, and looked pretty much exactly like they did in Human life (or at least they looked perfectly human) 2. Yes they were always that huge when they lived in Hell in Husk bodies, refer to the previous point 3. It’s a human soul, the Husk is just a vessel designed for Hell to house your soul, no matter how ravenous and animalistic lesser and more monstrous husks might seem, they still house a Human soul, one who’s value (see first point for what counts towards the value) accumulated in their life on Earth is reflected in the traits of the Husk. So yes, Minos and Sisyphus died 3 times; Once on Earth in a Human body Once in Hell as Husks One final time to us as Prime Souls

@@boiyousaywaht373 Is there any confirmation that the husks of Minos and Sisyphus were always gigantic? I mean I do actually completely agree with your points, I'm just curious if it's something that is officially canon. I guess I've always been confused because the paintings and concept art of both Minos and Sisyphus makes them look like normal sized humans, so imagining them as gigantic is weird. Also, the prime souls are also human sized, which is just even weirder lol.

@@qwertydavid8070 Hakita has made memes about Minos being giant in his city, so by proxy the same would be said for Sisyphus, but I think that’s a bit too meta so let’s dig into the game for why this is the case Firstly though let’s address what you wondered about, the paintings. How do you know they were depicted as normal sized humans in those paintings? They simply depicted what they looked like with nothing to scale, and we know that’s their husks because Minos shares his crown with his Corpse in the painting and I seriously doubt Sisyphus actually went through normal human life with a molten gold lined blindfold over his eyes his entire life. If Minos did just spontaneously grow after being killed by Gabriel, my first question is what did that and what evidence do you have to that process (not accusing you of thinking this, just covering all bases), my second question is did Minos’ crown grow with him? We’ve already established that the painting is Husk Minos because of the crown, but if Minos in the painting was indeed human sized, how did the Crown grow as well? What answer is there to this that has evidence? Because if it’s all just “Well he grew after being killed by Gabriel because of weird Hell stuff” then that just seems like much more of a cop out or handwave to your own writing. Another thing is that I believe you can imagine them being that size, because you’ve already seen super sized, Human looking Husks; The Sisyphean Insurrectionists. If you look at their entry it’s stated that following the failed insurrection, likely as punishment for resisting Hell and their eternal Judgement, “their bodies were cut apart leaving behind only the bare essentials required to carry on their eternal punishment of hauling heavy boulders up the monument’s of Mankind’s arrogance and greed”. Now tell me what you see of the Insurrectionists we fight, a single arm and half their upper body missing, and we know they’re very much still alive and functioning as they were because their entry also mentions how they are mentally tortured by how closely their insurrection failed, and the mannequins prove that death is rare in Hell, at least for Husks, who still breath, think, and feel as their bodies are contorted and dismorphed to do the same thing in the bodies of Mannequins, despite how such contortions should be leaving ANYTHING dead 20 times over So, with that, we know that Insurrectionists aren’t dead, so they didn’t have a chance to go through this mystery “post mortem inflation” that people seem to think happened to Minos and Sisyphus, meaning normal looking, sapient Husks that are super sized do exist and they have always been like this, (unless you want to say that even living in Hell as husks they just randomly grew in size for some reason) meaning Minos and Sisyphus forming as large as they are because of the value of their soul all while maintaining their sapience and human appearance is not only theoretically possible but now most likely because while the Insurrectionists and the proof of their existence is present, and the fact that we do see Minos and Sisyphus at such sizes, with Minos being regarded as the “Largest HUSK ever recorded” (also note the terminology, they said his HUSK, not corpse, and you obviously know the difference) nothing states or even hints Minos or Sisyphus’ corpses grew So yes, Minos and Sisyphus were indeed always this size, they lived in Hell like titans

Ultrakill theorizers when literally any notable human figure in history exists (it must be the next prime soul)

Weren't the street-cleaners only made AFTER the new peace though??? Same goes for the drones.

@@qwertydavid8070 Double checked the wiki, and you are right about the drones. However, it does state in the Streetcleaner's Terminal that they were made before the peace and made obsolete by it, thus they went from cleaning up the war-torn cities to being scouts into hell. So the Street Cleaners could have been a force put in after the Guttermen and Guttertanks to flush out cities.

@@tyrantofcans465They were made before the New Peace but they were also 100% made after the war, as their entry also states they were made to purify the air to reverse the affects of the “Climate Catastrophe”, which could only be the Long Night, which ofc was the reason the Final War ended

@@boiyousaywaht373 I understand the confusion with the street-cleaners, they literally look like word war 1 flamethrower soldiers, but apparently they're just a cleanup crew for the climate catastrophe and were not made for war.

HOL UP this is actually makes so much fucking sense!!!! How have I not thought about this before? The idea of hell becoming alive simply because there's literally just EONS OF HUMAN BLOOD just pooling eternally in one place, and eventually forming life of its own, is sick.

@@gabuge2928 “Version 1.” Something simple

​@@ShadoenixReally? I thought it stands for "Vampire".

@@JenyaFio Yup, it’s “Version One.” Remember that it was simple a prototype, and only one of them was made. Even the second prototype was just “Version Two.”

@@VBVoid in theory maybe but in practice the war that started the final war was ww1, in which Japan was on the side of the allies.

My question is how did Japan, a random tiny impoverished isolationist country, managed to make a gigantic fucking gundam robot during the final years of the war, SPECIALLY considering that at that point the world was basically destroyed by 200 years of war. Like how do you even pool the resources to build something like that, specially considering how bad it got during those final years.

@@aidan2472 In another theory, someone suggested that relations had broken down between nations during World War I. Having Allie’s means you have less blood to gain from other nations. (What I’m about to say is purely skeptical but makes sense) after the trench warfare period in Europe happened the Allie’s and the centeral powers broke down more into a free for all maybe after Russia or Germany collapsed, like it did in our own. I find it plausible as 200 years of war can change a lot of things. It’s like losing friends over a long period of time.

Too often does an idea thought "impossible" is later proven to be anything but, even in the real world with scientific discoveries. Take the Wright brothers flying in 1903 or Einstein himself saying that nuclear power could not be harnessed, yet today we fly all over the world without a care and we see nuclear energy as the future of our species. Inspiration aside, never be so sure to say something is "impossible." You may be wrong one day. It always helps to have a little humility, but that can work both ways -- sometimes an idea is false, but that does not mean every idea is false. Having an open mind tuned to evidence is what weeds out the improbable from the possible. "I will never die for my beliefs because I may be wrong." - Sir Bertrand Russell

@@Shadoenix thanks for the history lesson lol! But yeah, I felt ashamed and was laughing when Hakita quite directly pointed that blood is special lol

Ultrafnaf AU when

Souls are exclusive to humanity, so that means soul cannot be created, unless a new human is born. But a soul is different than what we think a soul would be. You can still feel and hurt and think and move with blood; a soul doesn't change that. All a soul essentially does is allow the being to exist beyond death for a period of time, and it's what determines if a soul goes to Heaven or Hell after that first death. After their second death as a husk or lesser angel, very rarely, a very strong-willed soul may be able to persist beyond that second death... and become Prime.

Well, he murdered Ferdinand, so Violence against Others -- straight to the blood pools. On another hand, he also fought against his country and started a world war, so he might be sent to the icy lake of Treachery, unable to bend his neck so he must take the full brunt of the freezing winds coming from Lucifer's six wings that keep them all trapped.

@@aydinmakesthings You might right. Hakita even said once that our world isn’t ULTRAKILL’s so most notable figures don’t exist here, and many mythological characters here actually exist in there. However, Hakita also said in Dev Commentary #2 that the Final War is a really stretched out World War 1, so despite technology being very advanced even by our standards, some humans may have existed at the same time as both of our universes. Gavrilo may have shot Ferdinand with a Piercer.

@@Shadoenix Gavrilo used the Marksmen to ricoshot Franz

@@aydinmakesthings If he didn't split the coin, that's kind of a skill issue Gavrilo

For something to be alive, they must have blood. A soul without blood is just an empty ghost, unable to do anything. Hakita said a while ago that Prime Souls do not necessarily need blood to survive, but by virtue of them being living beings, they must at least contain blood. This, to me, says that blood itself isn't really a resource that a Prime Soul needs to survive, but they need it simply to be alive. As for how he got the blood, his soul orb still contained enough blood to be able to turn Prime at a later time, but couldn't turn when he was held in stasis by the Flesh Prison.

Not quite. The Sentry log says that their streamlined design meant they were effectively useless during the New Peace until the Hell Exploration, which implies that Hell was uncovered after the war ended. As for why the Earthmover uses hell energy and Idols... I have no clue, honestly. Might lead credence to a theory that Hell created Earthmovers within itself or augmented them in some way, sorta like how it augmented Soldiers or Stalkers.

@@Shadoenix Hell bringing back dead machines to keep fighting kinda makes sense, also explains why we see guttermen since they were from the start of the final war and wouldve either been scrapped or just destroyed

the reason why theres idols on earthmovers was bc it was easier to the player to understand that they needed to destroy them to deactivate the shield, so purely for gameplay purposes now for the mortar hell thing and homing orbs, i dont know, probably gameplay purposes too

@@freddoomerthe2nd653 Minos was an actual character in classic Hellenistic Greece (lol hell), or rather… two of them. This is where it gets complicated. Wikipedia says that poets and mythologists rationalized contradictory and strange aspects of his character by assuming there were two Minoses - the first was a “good” Minos, who was so great that he became a judge of the dead with his brothers. That fits our ULTRAKILL Minos. The second is a “bad” Minos, who is responsible for bad things like the Minotaur. That also sounds like our Minos. So clearly Hakita has taken some liberties here, ignoring actual recorded phenomena, which is fine. Hakita hasn’t even read Inferno despite the game being inspired by it, in fact. But these two Minoses existed within two generations of each other, with bad Minos being named after his grandfather, good Minos. The last reference to Minos in this era was around the eighth century BC, so 700 BC. In today’s year of 2024, that was 2724 years ago - two millennia. There’s also just the common assumption that Minos lived a really long time ago. Kinda like how archangels technically are on the lower tiers of the hierarchy of angels and virtues are above them, archangels like Gabriel are supreme because, in Hakita’s words, “[they] are high ranked cause thats intuitive”. Hakita doesn’t really need a specific number, just knowing he was alive a long time ago and slapping “millennia” there is good enough and everyone understands. Furthermore, the “millennia” comment in the entry simply calls out that Minos is still remembered in the present time despite him dying *as a human* over 2,000 years ago. As said in the Filth’s entry, husks are formed not just by willpower but also recognition, where the common rabble who no one will remember become Filth and Strays but large historical characters like Genghis or Hitler or Minos, who everyone knows even though their time is long past, contributes to their husk form’s strength, size, and intelligence. That’s all it’s saying - Minos is big because we still remember him today. Him being a just ruler is in reference to the aforementioned good Minos, who became the Judge of Hell because he was so good, and he was lauded by the Gods, being the son of Zeus and Europa. Not sure about the Minotaur thing though. Not everyone can be perfect, eh?

@@Shadoenix Oh, I never thought of it like that, makes much more sense, thanks.

@@Shadoenix Yeah this is one of those really head-scratching dilemmas. ULTRAKILL being inspired by Dante's Inferno is a double edged sword. It's cool to have all these mythological figures, but making them all fit in the world is though. Like, since Minos and Sisyphus are real, does that mean that the entire greek pantheon just exists in the Ultrakill Universe??? I feel like that has BIG implications if true. It could also be possible that Sisyphus and Minos were simply normal human kings, the greek pantheon doesn't exist, and their respective mythological stories simply occurred once they were husks in hell, kind of like an alternate history world. Instead of carrying a boulder because of Zeus's punishment, Sisyphus carried a boulder because that was simply the punishment of the Greed layer. Instead of Dante's Inferno, where the punishment in hell is inspired by the myth of Sisyphus, in the Ultrakill universe the myth of sisyphus just never happened, and Sisybro only carried out his iconic punishment once he was in hell, simply because that's what everyone else had to do. It's basically a Reverse Dante's Inferno, instead of the punishments being inspired by greek myths, the punishments ALREADY existed in hell, and the actual iconic myths of Sisyphus on Minos only got carried when they were husks in hell, albeit only as a heavily modified way from the actual real life original myths. It could be a similar case with Minos, perhaps he was just a notable human king, and he didn't create the labyrinth because it already existed in hell. However, the fact that the entry calls the minotaur "a caricature of Minos's past mistakes" throws this whole theory for a loop, it implies that Minos's iconic story somehow still had to happen when he was a human, even without the greek pantheon. I mean, I have no idea what to even say about that. I don't even want to think about it because it somehow makes the story more gross if Minos's wife just...copulated with a normal bull..for no reason. Although sometimes reality is stranger than fiction, and the royalty were known for doing fucked up stuff, so it's not completely irrealsitic, but still gross.