Pancake Grip & Electric
Pancake Grip & Electric
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2 Ton Grip Van Tour- Pancake Grip & Electric
What's inside of a 2-Ton Grip truck ?! I've had this rig for almost 2 years now, It's gone through 3-4 "remodels" in that time. Plus, there's constant tweaking and reloading to meet needs of different jobs.
I recently set out to make some big improvements and I'm really happy with how everything is working. There's still a couple more projects to go before I'm completely satisfied. It's half way about the journey of getting there. Thanks for watching :)
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Видео

Four things I like about the NanLite PavoSlim // 240C & 60CL
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I look at the NanLite PavoSlim lineup and where I see them working on set. I'm specifically drawing my comparisons from the PavoSlim 240C and 60CL because those are the models NanLite sent for review.
Control your lights wirelessly w/ Wireless DMX CRMX
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Pancake Grip & Electric, Seattle WA Portland OR www.PancakeLighting.com
Behind the scenes of a Music Video Gaffer - Logic Fear
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Logic - "Fear" : ruclips.net/video/KMZ-JbvRzFs/видео.htmlsi=E-DRq9DPkvANomXY Pancake Grip & Electric : www.pancakelighting.com The DP left it to my discretion on what lights I wanted to use to light this music video Equipment used: NanLux 1200B NanLux 900C CreamSource Vortex8 LiteGear LiteMat Plus 4 Astera Titan Tubes 750W Leko Arri 1K Gaffer: Logan Reynolds , Pancake Grip & Electric Best Elect...
2024 Ellipsoidal Shootout - Aputure Spotlight Max, 1200D, 600X, 600D, Nanlux 900C, Leko, JoLeko 800
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We have long been in the quest for the LED Jo-Leko replacement. We tested some of the best options available the market and we are still nearly only 1/3 the output of a Jo-Leko. Instead, We need to curb our expectations and realize that the Jo-Leko may still be the brightest option for years to come. Let's look at the new generation of LED Ellipsoidal optics as a quest for the cleanest optics, ...
NanLux 900C - A 3 month review from a commercial Gaffer
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The NanLux 900C has been a part of my van package for the last 3 months. I've taken the time to learn the strengths and weaknesses of the lights and learned how to get the most out of it on set. hungryanimallighting
Freelance Gaffer Year End Review - 2023
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Freelance Gaffer Year End Review - 2023
Behind the Scenes with a Commercial Gaffer- Vlog 5
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Behind the Scenes with a Commercial Gaffer- Vlog 5
Vlog 4 - Lighting a Short Film
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Vlog 4 - Lighting a Short Film
How to Light a Podcast
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How to Light a Podcast
Vlog 003 - How to light a podcast & other unconventional jobs
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Vlog 003 - How to light a podcast & other unconventional jobs
Film Scout and Corporate Shoot
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Film Scout and Corporate Shoot
Feature Film Pickups & Grip Truck Organization
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Feature Film Pickups & Grip Truck Organization
Grip Tip of the Day - Endless Loop Ratchet Strap
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Grip Tip of the Day - Endless Loop Ratchet Strap
New Grip Van & Subfloor Install - 2022 Ford Transit Medium Roof 148 Wheel Base
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New Grip Van & Subfloor Install - 2022 Ford Transit Medium Roof 148 Wheel Base
U-Haul Grip Truck
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U-Haul Grip Truck
Gaffer & Set Lighting Technician 2021 Year End Review
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Gaffer & Set Lighting Technician 2021 Year End Review
3 Things I Bring Traveling for Work - Film Crew Set Lighting Technician
Просмотров 3722 года назад
3 Things I Bring Traveling for Work - Film Crew Set Lighting Technician
Film set EDC - Everyday Carry for Set Lighting Technicians
Просмотров 5 тыс.2 года назад
Film set EDC - Everyday Carry for Set Lighting Technicians
Grip & Electric - How I prep for a (Telly Award Winning) project
Просмотров 9502 года назад
Grip & Electric - How I prep for a (Telly Award Winning) project
It's a lot of work! - Owning Film Equipment
Просмотров 7962 года назад
It's a lot of work! - Owning Film Equipment
Repurposing old soft boxes- 600X 600D 300D 300X
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Repurposing old soft boxes- 600X 600D 300D 300X
Hide your lights in small locations
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Hide your lights in small locations
Control Intensity using Scrims
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Control Intensity using Scrims
The Unsung Hero - Grip Equipment to Stabilize Stands Outdoors
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The Unsung Hero - Grip Equipment to Stabilize Stands Outdoors
Electricity Basics for Film Sets
Просмотров 8 тыс.3 года назад
Electricity Basics for Film Sets
Every Freelance Creative needs to ask this Question.
Просмотров 3793 года назад
Every Freelance Creative needs to ask this Question.
How to wrap stingers (And what is a stinger?)
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How to wrap stingers (And what is a stinger?)
How to gel a hot light (And what not to do)
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How to gel a hot light (And what not to do)
Norms C Stands - Product and Customer Service Impressions
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Norms C Stands - Product and Customer Service Impressions

Комментарии

  • @dymonmein
    @dymonmein 5 дней назад

    Hey love your content. Do a video on how to find work? Made videos, discovered I love lighting, now I own dozens of lights and all this grip. Do you apply? Is there a site where they post job listings? Thanks!

  • @luislomeli8732
    @luislomeli8732 2 месяца назад

    So if the breaker has 20 where are you getting the 15amps from?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 2 месяца назад

      Not sure I understand the question. If the breaker is 20A, that is the max you can put on everything tied to that breaker. LMK if that doesn’t answer your question

  • @coolman8143
    @coolman8143 2 месяца назад

    That is insanely smart

  • @stevenkralovec
    @stevenkralovec 2 месяца назад

    Such a great tip!!!

  • @108u9
    @108u9 3 месяца назад

    Hi how do you mix brands in terms of controlling them? Are there any catches mixing brands vs using the same brand in terms of controls? Are there any issues you’ve found working with different brands of lights? E.g. matching, mixing them seamlessly, or having different modifier mounts? Va to just sticking with one brand? Looking to hear from your experience and perspective if mixing brands works the same as staying in one brand outside of maybe losing the use of a brand specific app to control all lights. Thank you!

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 3 месяца назад

      Great question! I use wireless CRMX to control all lights from different brands on an iPad. I have a video about it- just check my recent uploads for the Wireless DMX CRMX video.

  • @joeaddison
    @joeaddison 3 месяца назад

    I like your build out a lot! I think you have a smart selection of lights for your van size. I almost never see Arri 650s except on student films these days? Almost everyone else has gone LED for their low power fixtures, what's your thinking for using those today?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 3 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching! The 650s are there for a couple reasons- two fit nicely in a milk crate 🤩 but also, it’s added value that costs me virtually NOTHING. Nobody ever asks for it but I actually find quite a few places to use them. On certain low budget jobs they really appreciate having additional sources without having to add another fixture to the invoice.

  • @jwillpro
    @jwillpro 3 месяца назад

    Awesome build! Do you have a link to the roof rack and the cylinder tube containers that holds your rails/pipes? Thanks!

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 3 месяца назад

      My rack was a custom build by a shop in Portland Oregon. It’s all welded 1-piece and needed to be installed with a forklift. The tubes are 6” pvc with caps from a plumbing supply store. Tubes are mounted to the rack with ratchet straps. Thanks for watching!

  • @lovellcamel2053
    @lovellcamel2053 3 месяца назад

    Cool little truck with everything you need for your type of work, cooool!

  • @shadowshapers
    @shadowshapers 3 месяца назад

    That is a smart truck. Lots of good solutions and thoughtful organization. 10/10 would work out of this truck on a job with you. That gap of a top shelf on the left is missing a few more pocket lights to use for accenting sets. Either a Rosco Dash 8-light kit or an MC Pro 8-light kit.

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 3 месяца назад

      Thanks homie. That would be so cool to do a job together! I’ve been thinking the same about that little space up top. A pack of dashs, mc pros, or Luna bulbs. Perhaps a custom kit of 2-4 of all of the above would be cool too.

    • @shadowshapers
      @shadowshapers 3 месяца назад

      @@PancakeLighting ooooohhhh. A mixed kit of some Luna Bulbs, some Nxy Bulbs, some MC Pros, and some DMG Dash lights that all charge from one plug, in one pelican case would be amazing. That’s a really interesting idea.

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 3 месяца назад

      @@shadowshapersooh. I hadn’t even thought about a charging case lol. On my typical job I rarely need 8 bulbs or 8 pocket lights. I just need a smattering of options. A charging case would be cool. I found out tho that for Luna bulbs you still need an Astera box (which I would have to purchase) 4 Lunas plus an art 7 would take me close to the price of the 8 Luna kit. I may just have to go for it.

    • @shadowshapers
      @shadowshapers 3 месяца назад

      @@PancakeLighting Oh ouch, that sucks. Would you need the art7 box if you have that Luna bulb config box for them? The one that comes in the pelican case for them?

  • @Cinegavo
    @Cinegavo 3 месяца назад

    I have the 120c. Love it because of that pop up soft box. I'm guessing the 2x2 doesn't have that same feature?

    • @Cinegavo
      @Cinegavo 3 месяца назад

      Update; guess i didn't watch long enough yet lol

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 3 месяца назад

      Apparently that’s the only one in the line without the pop up softbox. I’ve got my eyes on that eventual 2x4’.

  • @airviewcinematography
    @airviewcinematography 3 месяца назад

    Very smartly done!

  • @nextquestionlighting
    @nextquestionlighting 3 месяца назад

    absolutely love it my dude

  • @lawrencegress9831
    @lawrencegress9831 4 месяца назад

    What about output and light quality?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 4 месяца назад

      This was a first look. I’m going to put em through their paces and share more detailed info.

    • @evocati6523
      @evocati6523 Месяц назад

      Light quality on all these name brand lights is not even worth going over anymore, they're all more than accurate enough

  • @SpirosAbatis
    @SpirosAbatis 5 месяцев назад

    Amazing video and well paced thank you! Would you be willing to do a walk through of setting up the Astera titan tubes with pixel control? I'd love to see how it works with fades, smooths, flag runs etc.

  • @luispeaks
    @luispeaks 5 месяцев назад

    Great first impressions breakdown, thank you! Do you find the 2x1 model to be more versatile in more situations over the 2x0.5 model? I was interested in the 2x1 but the 2x0.5 looks quite useful for certain situations, however I’d only be able to grab one at this time.

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 5 месяцев назад

      Glad you find it helpful :). Honestly, I see the 240C becoming a work horse in my van. If you can only get one PavoSlim, I’d recommend that. If you’re choosing between the 120C and the 60CL, go for the 120. I think the output would be better than being small for those rare occasions. My two cents!

  • @jarenkerrmedia
    @jarenkerrmedia 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this Logan!!!! 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

  • @stevenkralovec
    @stevenkralovec 5 месяцев назад

    Very informative, thanks Logan! I’m gonna look into these lights more

  • @danielharvey1472
    @danielharvey1472 5 месяцев назад

    I worked with the 120c last week. Pretty happy with what Nanlite is offering.

  • @maxwellduryea
    @maxwellduryea 5 месяцев назад

    Neat. Thanks for being transparent with your tracking and congrats on the biz! Hope to work together again, soon!

  • @LittleFjords
    @LittleFjords 5 месяцев назад

    Cool hack! Thanks for sharing and keep it coming

  • @marccefalu9741
    @marccefalu9741 5 месяцев назад

    Does this type of system work with or is compatible with led neon/led pixel tape?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 5 месяцев назад

      It could be. Depends if the fixture supports DMX.

  • @NanluxGlobal
    @NanluxGlobal 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks for sharing!

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the feedback. I love your lights!

  • @anacletoQuevedo-br4zo
    @anacletoQuevedo-br4zo 6 месяцев назад

    how do you like it? would you recommend it to add to my 2ton?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 6 месяцев назад

      I love it. I don't know your needs or what gap you're trying to fill in your 2-ton but I added a 1200B to my 900C in my sprinter. I think the build quality and customer service is top notch!

  • @salllo5826
    @salllo5826 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the vid! Are there any lights or system that are works this way but through Wi Fi?

  • @StephanPaul
    @StephanPaul 6 месяцев назад

    Great result! Which soft box do you use?

  • @NoCamera-ej1ss
    @NoCamera-ej1ss 6 месяцев назад

    peak content

  • @ConnorHopson
    @ConnorHopson 7 месяцев назад

    Hey man, I like that you keep it real. Not all showy like every other RUclips poser out there. Appreciate the content!

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 7 месяцев назад

      I appreciate that Connor. That's the goal of the channel- Real info from real sets. Glad to see that being noticed :)

  • @johnsnead9995
    @johnsnead9995 7 месяцев назад

    Great overview of all the moving pieces for CRMX. Thank you! Hearing your experience in making the tough choices(that work) when managing a single Universe would be interesting in a deeper dive.

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 7 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the feedback- I think that’s a great idea for a future vid. Thanks!

  • @jaiden6612
    @jaiden6612 7 месяцев назад

    😊 "promosm"

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 7 месяцев назад

      I don’t understand what this means

  • @stevenkralovec
    @stevenkralovec 7 месяцев назад

    Whoa! This is a great tip!!

  • @RobinDupuy
    @RobinDupuy 7 месяцев назад

    Hello, thank you for your video. Luminar is nice but StageLight is inexpensive and really powerful and it's a one-time payment. As for an antenna I use Easynode Plus Pknight wifi 2.4 Ghz dmx 90$ on Amazon and works just fine. I'm interested in ROXX fixtures and integrating CRMX transceivers, so I'm looking for a budget-friendly CRMX transceiver and that's how I found your video. Do you think I could control the ROXX fixture with Ratpac Satellite or something else as the LumenRadio Aurora is way too expensive for me.

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 7 месяцев назад

      I would recommend the Ratpac Satellite as a transmitter. If you want to find a budget friendly CRMX transceiver, look at the Godox stuff

    • @RobinDupuy
      @RobinDupuy 7 месяцев назад

      @@PancakeLighting Thank you it's helps me a lot.

  • @CHiLECHiLL456
    @CHiLECHiLL456 7 месяцев назад

    DMX is from Yonkers

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 7 месяцев назад

      I do declare i don’t know what this means

  • @ETenebrisEntertainmentllc
    @ETenebrisEntertainmentllc 7 месяцев назад

    I'd love to see a video on setting up larger lights (60A etc.) on gennies etc.

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 7 месяцев назад

      That’s a good idea! Are you referring to tow plants or specifically Honda 6500s for running new 2400/2600 LEDs?

    • @ETenebrisEntertainmentllc
      @ETenebrisEntertainmentllc 7 месяцев назад

      @@PancakeLighting Well, on second thought it might not be the most popular video topic for your channel, what I need as far as tutorial info. So I've assembled a bunch of classic HMI arc lights, 3x Arrisun 12+ and most recently a Desisti 2340 (and also a mixture of par/fresnel 400's, 8 I think... or 10). The Arrisuns are at the limit of plug-and-play for a 20A house circuit (which has been suitable so far) but the 2340 is a 4000 watt fixture with a bates plug and it's totally going to need a genny... AFAIK at least. I'd love to have some insights on how to go about this for an indy guy, from renting to buying, what to look out for, I'm kinda new to exploring the G/E side. I've been shooting 35mm b/w on 90's era MovieCams through old anamorphic glass since 2011 so I'm something of a unicorn here. I need the punch and point-source of HMI's also because I tend to go for that chiaroscuro hard-key look. A tut on genny selection and laying electrical pipe to and from would be super helpful to me at least... Will a 6500 put out enough juice for a 4000 watt lamp? Thanks for considering my questions!

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 7 месяцев назад

      The deeper you get into power distro, the more variables arise that can effect your decisions. For example, do you want to run your lights at 120v or 240v (if capable). How far do you need to keep your generator from set? Does your location have access to a dryer plug? There’s lots Involved, feel free to send me an email (pancakelighting@gmail.com) that’s likely a more streamlined communication. To answer your question directly, yes you can run a 4k off a Honda 6500. You could either build a twist lock to bates adapter or change the bates on your ballast to twist lock. Same difference. You will have to choose if you’re working it to 120V (hot, neutral, ground) or 240v (hot, hot, ground). Personally I would go 240 just to keep the generator balanced and amperage lower.

  • @molinomusicaustria
    @molinomusicaustria 7 месяцев назад

    Hey Man, thanks for. the Video, do you have any idea where I can find this Carhart Tool Bag? can't seem to find it online anywhere :S

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 7 месяцев назад

      CARHARTT GEAR 482728B WORK POCKET I ordered mine a while ago from Amazon. I just tried to find it again it looks like it’s harder to track down now but there’s a few places online.

    • @molinomusicaustria
      @molinomusicaustria 7 месяцев назад

      Hi@@PancakeLighting thanks for getting back to me so quick, its not being sold in Europe anymore :S

  • @CoreyAbraira
    @CoreyAbraira 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the concise description of this industry expectation! Are you aware of any compact and quiet wireless tools available to integrate smaller tungsten loads into this kind of workflow for small sets?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 7 месяцев назад

      Hey Corey! Yes and I actually plan to talk about this in a future video. Basically, I purchased some 4 channel dimmers cheap off eBay. These are old DJ dimmers from the 80s that are not very sought after. Add a wireless CRMX receiver and you can dim tungsten fixtures wirelessly.

    • @CoreyAbraira
      @CoreyAbraira 7 месяцев назад

      @@PancakeLighting Thanks! I’ve read about the heavy loud dimmer packs that are used on big kid sets and knew that wasn’t going to be an option for me. Looking forward to that video!

  • @RavinderSingh-ft5dw
    @RavinderSingh-ft5dw 8 месяцев назад

    Superb work dear

  • @luispeaks
    @luispeaks 8 месяцев назад

    Clear and concise explanation, thank you! A deeper dive would be great, maybe even mentioning prices one can expect for a beginner set up.

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 8 месяцев назад

      Thank you! I would definitely like to do a follow-up video. I’ll consider mentioning prices- the problem with that as I see is that there will eventually be new and likely less expensive options released as the video ages.

  • @coolman8143
    @coolman8143 8 месяцев назад

    Personally I would love to see a more in depth breakdown guide using CRMX like you mentioned at the end of your video. This guide is already really helpful as I'm very inexperienced with CRMX and another more in depth guide would be incredible to learn. Thank you!

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the feedback! I’m on set this week that’s going to have a couple cues of 750w Lekos that I’m doing through Luminair. That’s going to be my next DMX video and I can go into detail about how I’m doing it!

    • @coolman8143
      @coolman8143 8 месяцев назад

      @@PancakeLighting Thanks so much really looking forward to it!

    • @jacquescolmenero7760
      @jacquescolmenero7760 3 месяца назад

      me too.

    • @jacquescolmenero7760
      @jacquescolmenero7760 3 месяца назад

      @@PancakeLighting Thank you Zen Master of lighting

  • @shadowshapers
    @shadowshapers 8 месяцев назад

    If I still worked for RatPac I would be trying to make the management sponsor you with free gear like they did for Tyler Kaschke to make more tutorial videos like this featuring their products. This is a great short explainer video. Well done!

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 8 месяцев назад

      You’re too kind! I really appreciate the feedback. Hope to see you soon 😎

  • @YourGearHire
    @YourGearHire 8 месяцев назад

    Great vid! Thanks for the clear explanation. I've only got a small lighting van, but with each manufacturer having their own apps it gets very cumbersome. I've been looking at the same setup with the AKS Satellite & Luminair for some time, this could be the push I needed to commit. The little Godox Timo Link seems ok to fill in the lights that havent got CRMX built in. Have you used those?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 8 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much! Glad you found it motivating. I don’t have the Godox receiver but my buddy does. We’ve used it on set before with Cinelex and RatPac receivers. We were in a studio but it worked flawlessly.

  • @Powersfilms
    @Powersfilms 8 месяцев назад

    Does Nanlux offer a wired remote? (Something similar to the wired remote used on the Skypanel 60?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 8 месяцев назад

      They do! It was actually just released and I haven’t gotten my hands on it yet. Works with all of the Evokes and I believe the Dyno panels as well.

  • @Powersfilms
    @Powersfilms 8 месяцев назад

    Excellent tutorial for beginners!

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 8 месяцев назад

      Thank you! I spent a lot of time to make this complete and through but also easy to understand.

  • @QuintonxThomas
    @QuintonxThomas 8 месяцев назад

    I started with luminair but it wasn’t fast enough for me unfortunately. I normally Gaff but since getting into data I get a lot of dimmer Op jobs so it has to be as quick as possible lol

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 8 месяцев назад

      I hear that. For me on small corporate jobs it is rarely a request from the DP. Often it’s just out of my own convenience. Have you played with any of the other systems? Onyx, Hog, Grand MA? Curious how the new blackout with MIDI control can stack up to those options.

    • @QuintonxThomas
      @QuintonxThomas 8 месяцев назад

      @@PancakeLighting yea you’re doing the right thing. Luminair is much more stable than Blackout. As far as the midi goes, it’s pretty great. I use the GrandMA as well and it’s not close yet but they’re definitely on their way!

  • @nextquestionlighting
    @nextquestionlighting 8 месяцев назад

    liking and describing as we speak

  • @danielharvey1472
    @danielharvey1472 8 месяцев назад

    I've been using the Satellite to MC Pros as receivers this past month. Been loving the results. Luminare has been a good system, but I'll probably end up going to Blackout again. I really enjoyed using it a couple years ago, just need to refresh myself on it.

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 8 месяцев назад

      I worry about using USBc as a connection to the light since there’s no way to lock it in. I’m concerned it comes loose while it’s out of reach. Have you had any problems with that?

    • @danielharvey1472
      @danielharvey1472 8 месяцев назад

      @@PancakeLighting I've mainly been doing interview set ups with slight adjustments. For those, it's worked like a dream. I am trying to find a good solution to mounting the receivers. For now, I just use their magnets to the stand. It's definitely a work in progress.

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 8 месяцев назад

      Velcro to the ballast?

    • @danielharvey1472
      @danielharvey1472 8 месяцев назад

      @@PancakeLighting if it were my fixtures, maybe. I mainly use rentals

  • @YourGearHire
    @YourGearHire 8 месяцев назад

    Great walkthrough. Gaffers need trigger warnings before they hear the words "small bathroom" uttered. 😅

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting 8 месяцев назад

      LOL! There have been way too many times for me