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one of the best drills ever is to ride laps without using the brakes at all. it teaches you to think ahead and gauge speed. california superbike school would dedicate an entire session to this drill. it allows you to vary braking points using reference to speed and position on track without relying on markers.

Still 4 seconds faster than me dawg that was beautiful. Dude on the gixxer could rideee. Only done 1 track day at thunder and 4 track days ever. Only riding experience i have, im working to get like u my man.

I used to think of it in the context of my downshifts. Where do I need to start braking so I can get in the gear I want for corner entry and exit. Like you said, you might arrive at a given corner at a different speed on some laps so the marker becomes irrelevant.

Are you still racing? Do you have plans for 2025?

This is utter bullshit. Brake markers ARE reference points. Whoever uses brake markers as the only places they can brake, they are fooling themselves. The "intangible reference point" that you're telling yourself you use, is an excuse not to discuss what other hundreds of references you're using. Example, your 5 board into turn 1. Sometimes you'll get there faster and need to brake sooner, sometimes you'll arrive slower and can wait a couple of meters but that board ain't moving. A brake marker is not law, it's a reference point to remind you where in the track you are. Use it as such. Same with tip-in points, apexes, exit points, racing lines etc. All of those are references AND markers that tell them where they are on track and what comes next, and next, next. Your brain is processing waaaay more information that you are being aware of it seems, and it's doing you a disservice.

they're just reference points...to say, "don't use braking markers" is the most idiotic, clickbait thing you could title this.

Wow! I didn’t know they allowed the full course with bikes. I always assumed bc of the left at the top of the S’ and the danger that comes with a highside there they never allowed it. This is the first time I’ve seen a full course with a bike. When I raced Formula I loved this track.

I hope you don’t mind me sharing this. I you do please lmk and I’ll take it down. Btw your passing video was great.

I 100% agree! My reference point is the turn in point for the upcoming turn. Repeat, repeat, repeat until you no longer think and it becomes automatic.

Makes alot of sense to any level of rider to use reference points. If remember correctly Freddie Spencer was asked if used brake markers and he said he did not use them because he did not need em. Basically he does not use brake markers. I think he has a thinkers way of wrestling those big superbikes.

Wanted to get a refresher on your tips, going there Sunday … That tire is R5 Dunlop and mid Ohio new surface had torn it up pretty good. Thanks again I’ll give em a try. I’m running r7 rear now … first year running slicks

Would love an audit! ruclips.net/video/9thCXpKw5HA/видео.html&ab_channel=gtas1000rr But I will say first, that I had to go back to stock tune for the weekend, which has a known massive deadspot between 4000-8000 RPM in 2nd gear.

Your commentary is hilarious lmao. Just raced Pitt, glad the riders were more organized than this

How do your brakes do that, are they stock or did you modify

You really should pay more attention to the better riders around you. The way you explained this was as if there is one universal breakpoint for every rider and every bike, and that’s just not true. Even when I get to a new track, I know I have to start out with a certain breakpoint and change it as I get more comfortable exiting the corner before that and breaking into that corner. Obviously it’s going to change if I have a bad exit or if I have to pass somebody going into a corner, but if you think these top riders are doing 15 to 20 laps within half a second of each other on an open track at record setting pace without break points, you would probably be best served not posting videos trying to educate other riders about technique.

Nice video. Thank you

Same applies for when people mention “shift points”

Makes allot of sense...

What organization did you go thru? Looking to do something like this in either Spain or Italy

Ill be jumping on this train. Great feedback all around

He needs new gloves too.. those Speed and strengths disintegrate, learned the hard way

I think I can benefit from this too. ty.

I am wondering what you think of the overseas track day organizations and if they follow the novice intermediate advanced format.

Good feedback, very useful as I am in the same position trying to break 2 mins at Pitt.

Great commentary and critiques right here. Love it

Are you going to Pitt with N2 on the 14/15 of September?

Just like @mcsbikelife3829 said I watched your videos to get ready. You are hauling. If you wwon c superbike expert I was watching you race. You were cooking. This was our first weekend out and got down to 1:52 on my 750 in part do to your videos. Especially the one you talk during the video. Congrats

holy shit they made one fast move into a real thing

Dang I wish I had known you were there I’d have come met you !!! My first time racing at Pitt this weekend and I watched your videos to get ready !!! Been watching for years anyway ! I was on a r1 and did ok , got down to a 54 but left a lot on the table . I need a good trackday at Pitt to get lines dialed was hard on a race weekend. Didn’t get crap for practice Friday . Love the channel and your vids !!!! Helps me a lot thanks !!!

Whew! I watched your video before and after my first weekend at Pitt. I took away some lessons on arrival (treat 1 and 2 as one turn, drive hard to 12, stay on the gas to 17), which was great. Watching it again after, I get many of the other nuances of your voiceover and can't wait to get back to work on it more. Thanks!

Best rider to watch to see how to ride this track. You brake later than everybody and shows its possible. Cant wait to ride pitt soon

What bike?

That'sAwesome!

Ma che spettacolo!

good riding... looking like Rossi..

Bellissimo!

Dream circuit. 🤌🏾

Thank you so much for posting this video. This was extremely great to watch.

Thanks for the insight. I'm a noob to track days (3 so far), and braking markers is one thing I don't use. I tend to close gaps in the braking zone and wasn't sure if not using markers was correct prior to this video. Thanks for the confirmation bias. Your videos have been helpful, especially the passing video. I'm working hard to earn a bump

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Going this weekend. My first time there.

Brake when you see Elvis.....

Brake check reference FTW

Thanks John! Keep them coming! One thing I found that helped me was going to a car Event. Then comparing to my Ducati Events. A HPDE Track Day in a car at the same Track really helped me focus on RP's at Summit for both vehicles. Really paid dividends for T5, T7, T10 and even the down hill start of the Chute after T3.

I mean, use reference points on track, but your actions/decisions aren’t fixed to those exact points; they are made IN RELATION to those reference points

I only use them for high-speed corners where i cant see. Maybe i need a tigher helmet but breaking into T1 and the chicane at Daytona is where i use it

So what you're saying is... Brake check reference was the way all along. Got it.

Braking points or references can be...a cone,numbered marker,patch work in trake,discoloration on track. It can be..a marker counting 1,2 brake. It depends. Something you have to work on. Conditions, drafting,etc play a part.

very helpful take.. I never heard it explained this way, but it does make sense.

Hey John! Really enjoy these voiceover type videos! A lot of really good information that is super easy to understand! Could you expand on the reference point topic again at some point? This is something I most definitely struggle with on the track.