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You just reminded me I need PB82, I dont have any at all.

turner can be hit or miss with their watercolors. Their acrylic gouaches however are where they show how well they can make paints.

When I need pv23 I need pv23 but I seem to use cobalt violet way more which is hard for me since its an extinct pigment now.

Its an ugly yellow but its one of the key ways to mix a quinacridone gold color. I use it a lot because it mixes very natural colors but its not always on the palette.

@@askialuna7717 I pronounce alizarin weird myself so I won't fault you for that. That's at least logical

@@mrsupaconducta I can actually make it happen, I have a lot of the contacts for these companies and relationships built up with them. I just don't know how many people would want the weird shit.

Good idea, I have sometimes already sorted pigments as a low priority on my list, because they are so expensive. I first use my pigments from one order once before I place a new order. I am still using mine from my last order from two years ago to try. As a result, it happened to me that I couldn't buy Quinacridone Orange, because it was further down on my list and by the time I ordered, it was already sold out :-/. If I'm part of a buying group, I can sort a lot of pigments up because they're not that expensive, and I don't have to buy such a large quantity.

@@askialuna7717 quinacridone orange isn't that impressive tbh it's nice but transparent iron oxides sort of fit it's same spot

No. I've spilled enough into my wet palette to confirm that. All it did was destroy the sponge and make the thing sticky

@@MrPigments It would have been nice if it did work :( Getting new products suck... Though AK thins fairly okay with water so that's something at least.

@@sweatilaa5325 most of the products I recommend you can get at a hardware stores thankfully and are generally useful for other things around the house and you might even have them laying around. The wetting agent is useful for fixing bad paint too.

@@miniminer6789 it still is used to my understanding.

@@TashiMortier it is household ammonia I got an Ace hardware.

@@MrPigments Cool thank you :D

@@jc-aguilar I will be using pb60 more often honestly

@@archg8323 to be fair I have no idea what I'm talking about myself so I just nod a long too.

​@MrPigments I find that very inspiring. Now... when are you going to do the video on your favourites acrylic whites/ off whites, and how to get them smooth?

@@archg8323 My favorite white paints already dry smooth. But white paint tier list coming soonish.

@MrPigments damn right it is! You'll get a million views from everyone who's painting miniatures

@@ThrehaneMiniatures I wanted an excuse to use a palette knife for once that isn't just "it's better" and this stuff is thick.

@@MrPigments I cringe every time I see a miniature painter mix oils with a tiny brush. I was honestly expecting to see you do the same with that thick gloss medium. I should have known better! Btw, I dig the new name. I recently learned that you can changeb your "handle" to match, so your comments reflect your new name, as well. It's in RUclips studio settings.

@@ThrehaneMiniatures I am just born different and do things correctly it seems Only reason why I'm not changing my @ is because I would make a few up coming collabs more complicated for the other people.

@@archg8323 this was my "I had 5 doctor's appointments and forgot it was Friday" video too

Every day is halloween if you are goth or don't take the decorations down.

thats been in the plans for a while funny enough so yes I can. Golden has an online mixer that I linked in my flesh tones video too. goldenartistcolors.com/mixer/acrylic its not perfect but its a good resource. I personally would switch to single pigment over the heavy bodied line entirely because its easier for me.

@@jc-aguilar so I'll tell you what once I get the other version of dioxazine violet I'll make a video about those two because I do know the reputation and I'll explain them as a whole but the short of it is I quite like them both and I use them quite frequently in both acrylic and oil paint along with watercolor. I like them because they're very potent color so I don't have to use a lot of it to get an effect that I want however the version of anthroquinone I like is The green shade which is more similar to Prussian blue but that is an insanely rare pigment that really doesn't pop up all that often. With the dioxyzine violet I much prefer the red shade over the blue shade but both of very good uses and mixed differently for different chromatic blacks with the blue shade being the best for a chromatic black. Generally speaking I like those really bold dark punchy colors that most people don't because I want those effects I want those colors in my work and if I can get a single pigment version then I'm going to be much happier in the long run than doing a mixture because I'm weird and like to paint out of the bottle with single pigment things as defiance towards the art institution, to which I am a product of. Art school taught me a lot but I also do a lot of things in defiance of what they taught me entirely because I hate being told what I can't do or should never do because it's a rule. Rules are meant to be broken within art and breaking them well is an art itself.

@@MrPigments so cool that you are answering my questions, I appreciate it a ton. Those darn rules, they suck the life of having fun :). I like to learn about the physics and psychology, then play around with that knowledge. So often teachers provide the rules, without providing the why. If you are lucky that they provide the why, too often the answer is shallow. Looking forward to watch your video about those 2 colors and Ultramarine Violet as you mentioned in this video. I’m totally with you about those punchy dark colors. Except for the cleaning and they get everywhere :).

@@jc-aguilar I have a lot of videos planned on pigments and ways to break the rules because honestly I hate these arbitrary rules that are there out of ego and tradition.

@@pbkobold I use cadmium pigments all the time however using them without the correct kind of varnish it's a bit stupid. You'll want speciality automotive varnish like kbs satin with them. Cadmiums don't really "shine" well in matte paint, cadmium red tends to desaturate heavily.

@@MrPigments Thanks mate. Keep having fun with the channel!

I wanted to add that there is more than just applying the paint. If you paint something that will be touched, make sure you varnish it very well. 2 extra concerns that I have about cadmium pigments, or any toxic pigments. First: The water used to dilute the paint or clean brushes. People get lazy very soon with that water and it can end up in the reservoirs. Obviously less of an issue with Oil paints, unless you are using water mixable oils. Second and my personal biggest concern: most places where people work on mining/sourcing those materials have very bad protections for the workers. The situation is better for companies creating the actual paints for artists but I have my doubts about the companies creating the pigments. Sadly, the original state for the pigments is dust which is the most dangerous way to handle pigments, so it’s more dangerous for the workers on those companies. For those 2 reasons I avoid cadmium and cobalt pigments, I feel that I can manage not eating them :), and use gloves!

@@jc-aguilar so ingestion of cadmium and cobalt really aren't that bad however the worker conditions are. Their environmentally bad however towards the user they're not that bad. Cobalt blue is supposedly used in children's finger paint a lot because it's less problematic than other blues. I use cadmium because I have a ton of vintage cadmium here so I might as well use up the stock, same with Cobalt. Because I make a lot of my own paint I might as well just use up what I have.

@@MrPigments totally, I think if you have it, it’s best to use it and not waste the hard work of people making them and your hard earned money.

dsc.gg/paintnerd Here is the link to the discord

@@MrPigments Thanks!

@@d_dog9939 that's the whole carbon black family in a nutshell honestly. It's rarely a high quality pigment since the industry needs to much of it

@@Cup_or_whateveryouwant and there is always so much to it. Pigments are a thing of beauty and complexity. I'll be posting more things about my collection in the future as well. In a little bit I'm going to upload a picture of the Mercury cadmium Pigment I have as a community post, which is incredibly rare and very few people even know it's existence. It's the pigment that is the reason why everyone thinks cadmium paint is toxic and deadly. Cadmium paint just shouldn't be airbrushed, ingesting a small bits of it is within safety margins.

@@jaspiness you're welcome. I'll have more to come when I get more paint in and way more manganese

@@d_dog9939 I actually didn't. I was told about this by Golden several months ago(probably over a year ago) but I was working getting the channel up and running before they uploaded that article. That being said this is still entirely their recipe but I have done testing with it that they haven't done like how to make this as lazy as possible for the average hobbyist.

@@d_dog9939 turner is also an actual quality product unlike what most people think is one.

@@MrPigments After seeing the video, i decide to try golden's relevant new fluo magenta, that's also a pretty tricky thing i would say, most company only sold fluo pink/rose (some boost at 610nm compare to random PR122? anyway much redder than people may imagine of fluo magenta) while naming it fluo magenta.

@@MrPigments s75, if u take a glare/test at their "artist range", more lies on pigment can be found such as "sart 34 sap green", i'm quite surprised that no RUclips review video talk about these lies. anyway, not so interesting on that brand while lots of people believe that's a good brand, expecially their nonsense pearl/mica metal paint. (maybe the bronze one is fine)

@@d_dog9939 I will be actually getting into more reviews like this and I'm going to be discussing scale and AK interactive in their own videos. AK interactive is probably one of the most abhorrent companies I've ever encountered and they broke a very big moral rule of mine by using Holocaust concentration camp footage for marketing purposes.

@@d_dog9939 have a part 2 coming out soonish and I'll be going over the rest of the colors I also now have swatches from dayglow which is what I was waiting for to release that video but they took them 3 months to ship them out because of how many I wanted.

Thank you! I try to make things easy to understand but it does come at a cost sometimes where that info gets a little screwed up. I need to make a corrections video sooner or later.

Mostly personal use. I know enough to calculate the math for pigments for acrylics but I still need to experiment a fair bit as I dont know the exact formulas for each one. People keep telling me to make my own paint line but I keep refusing due to cost and lack of profit potentials.

Honestly because I varnish everything I've never noticed it but I know about it. I also follow smithsonian conservation rules when I paint canvases for the most longevity I can have not that my work will ever be famous nor is it good. Will I stop doing a base of burnt umber acrylics? Nope. I dont do a wash with oil I do it with acrylics which helps a lot with those issues, then I do oil over them after. As long as the acrylics arent glossy then its not a problem. but yeah the varnishes are a bit of a nightmare to deal with as tons of things can make from frost over when they dry.

@@MrPigments thank you so much for the explanation and that makes sense about using an acrylic wash under the oil.

I filled my printer with very specific inks and I have a CcYyMmKkGW printer so some monstrosity that I stole from a defunct print shop. I have to use a specific red to get oranges that look like oranges and that drives me nuts.

@@ignitedxblaze neither of those are toxic within modern paints. Cobalt is relatively safe to use and it's actually used in children's paints all the time. Manganese blue isn't in production anymore and the worst that would ever do as a paint is give you a minor rash after a large exposure.

@@nicholascaldwell6079 oh I absolutely adore them and the company is also fantastic. The company is a tiny little thing with only eight employees and their MSA is a wonderful person as well who really likes to tell stories of his side of the industry which I'm all there for.

@@MrPigments That is really heartening to hear.

@@askialuna7717 that's the difference between hue axis and chroma axis. A 20~ decree swing on the hue axis is super noticable but a 20 on chroma and it's not as noticable to most people.

@@askialuna7717 The green you're looking for is really hard to find and you're probably going to have to look at some more fugitive things like the original sap green but that's also going to cost a fair bit of money. Phthalo blue green shade mades a good replacement for cyan and is one of the more budget friendly ones too. I'm experimenting with different blue pigments since I have around 108 of them currently to see what would be good for people who are willing to make their own paint. I'm kind of lucky I'm in a position where I have all these rare and extinct pigments and enough of a supply of them all to last several life times. But thankfully this means I can experiment for people who can't afford to get a bunch of supplies they might not like, not that I can but this is something I enjoy too much not to.

@@jc-aguilar I use a palette that was proposed by Dr. David Briggs. It's a split primary palette that uses a transparent and opaque primary pigment due to how light interacts with the opacity of a mixture because of particle size. An example would be 1. PR122/PR254 2. PG50/PB15:4 3. PY184/PY175 Obviously you'd add if you're whites and black but that's all opinion and based off the media you're using like with acrylics I make heavy use of zinc white while oils I use lead white a lot. The palette is more based off the physics of light and accommodating perceptual color while using physical mixing. I also avoid ultramarine in my palettes due to inconsistencies with the pigment as it's quality control is garbage from every company that makes it. You'll rarely get a batch that's similar to the last batch you got. But this is me being an industry weirdo and having eclectic knowledge like that.

@@MrPigments Thank you for sharing that information about Ultramarine, I didn’t know that. I would love to see a video about your palette. I have been also thinking about having a split palette with an opaque color. In the other hand , I’m also wondering, if maybe I’m thinking too much about colors, forgetting too often that colors don’t matter a lot. I have to remember that the priority is to get the values and saturation right. Saturation is very closely tied to values and atmospheric perspective, so it’s important to get good at values and saturation. Hues are less important, like seeing Josh Brolin all purple as Thanos, or Jim Carrey all green on The Mask. You still recognize them when they are totally different hue than a human on those movies. Maybe hues are the thing that really makes art to be art, because allow us to be expressive while keeping it grounded with reality. Values and saturation provide that grounding, I think… Sorry, I’m rambling now :)

@@jc-aguilar that's not rambling that's expressing your thoughts about color and how you perceive it. You see it all from the artist perceptive including the questions of intreige and wonder of what matters and what matters not which is important for the experience of color. I enjoy that type of comment too because I'm so close to the physics side of it they drag me back over to the art side with is way less analytical and more based off the opinion of the viewer than cold emotionless fact. Personally I don't think you're thinking too much about colors, I think you're thinking just the right amount. All colors matter it's just some matter more to you than another one

Just asking because you mentioned it, but in context you might have meant quinacridone violet...

@@nicholascaldwell6079 that was PV15 ultramarine pink that was discontinued not PV15 ultramarine violet. It's the same pigment code but a very different pigment. Chemically identical but you change the heat and time it stays in the kiln and it turns reddish. I'll do a video on I'll the types of ultramarine pigments soon because it's a massive class of pigments with a lot people dont know about like ultramarine green.

@@MrPigments Oh that is crazy. Just fascinating how the same chemical can change so much with a little tweaking. I got a bottle of Liquitex Acrylic Gouache PB15.3 the other day because my SoFlat jar of the same colour had gunked up beyond belief, and I was amazed by how different they were in hue and value.

@@nicholascaldwell6079 yep. You can find ones that are similar and ones that are night and day different. Pigments are weird and very few people understand them. When I started my journey the first thing I learned was how important they are to understand. Mixing a grey instead of a green from a yellow and a blue really through me for a loop for years

@@MrPigments It's been an odd journey for me too, from getting back into mini painting after decades, wondering what was in Goblin Green, then eventually picking up traditional oil painting and things like that.