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Agreed!

Thanks, I’m hoping that people who see this review will give it a chance and not just think it is weird for weird’s sake.

Thanks! I’m not sure how wide of a distribution it will get, but there are so few reviews, and the ones that are out there don’t see it as anything except confusing or pointless, which is not really fair. It does take a while for it to find its legs, and purpose, and if you don’t understand any of the symbolism, it probably does seem pretty random. But if you know what you are in for and looking for, I think it will be received very differently. Half way through my first viewing I was confused, but it got better, and my second viewing was actually pretty enjoyable. But then again, I was putting the puzzle pieces together, but this time I had a picture of the completed puzzle so it was more interesting and less confusing.

Thanks for tuning in David. If you have a chance to watch the film, I’d love to hear your thought?

@@CinemaTechnica My local Regal 13 is not playing it this weekend, so it could suffer from a distribution issue. Hopefully audiences will have a chance to see it. I am not aware of any plans for it to hit a streaming platform at this time.

I saw a review that was talking about how many people walked out of the film… I don’t get it. I thought it was enjoyable. Having analyzed it, I respect how much work went into the script; as there is a payoff for a lot of the symbolism, probably all of it, since I’m sure I missed some of it. but it was fun to research as many of the references as I was able to catch.

@@CinemaTechnica I’d like to hear other opinions once the film is released later this week. It’s definitely not a mass appeal film, but is worth watching on a number of levels.

​@@CinemaTechnicaI don't think I would've caught much, if any, of the symbolism without having read about it or watching a video like this. Maybe that's why people walked- they just didn't understand?

@@David_Hartshorn It’s the type of film that you have to pay attention to to pick up on the nuances that Heath observed. I notes some of them, but others flew by. Watching it a second time might be interesting.

I don't know, it's got Chris Pine and Danny "the man" DeVito, can't imagine it not fitting everyone lol. But I hear what you're saying and probably agree.

Yes! This song took top honors! Billie and Finneas also won the Oscar for their work on “No Time To Die” from the past James Bond film.

this is a FICTION mate, not a real world, read the symbols

I said the same thing! Even if we could get away from the fact that she is a child and so this is the rape of a child we could go to the other issue okay maybe she's an adult but she's a developmentally disabled adult which is also rape. Either way we have an issue of capacity to consent

Thanks, we aren’t really focusing on the review aspect, but that does come up. We are trying to talk more about the filmmaking aspects, story elements, and things that aren’t just our opinions. In this case there was a lot to discuss about the psychology as well as some of the more disturbing elements. Thanks for watching! Our other videos are similar if you want to check out some of them.

Thanks!

More like Alice in sex-land. This movie did nothing for the feminist view, other than to insult every ones intelligence. It can only be looked at as a comedy at best with colorful overtones.

So, stabbing a corpse in the eyes (it would have been a live person if Godwin didn’t redirect her, and indicated that was a problem in the past, as well as delighting in squashing a toad, is whimsical? These are classic symptoms of antisocial personality disorder. They were also very intentional in trying to demonstrate who the character is. So, those were creatively inspired decisions, which are pretty much textbook examples. If anything, I think they were trying to say how freeing a lack of any restrictions on actions through either societal boundaries or personal morality, would be. And I’m sure it is freeing. But is also the hallmark of antisocial behavior. But I admit it isn’t the lightest take on the film, and doesn’t make for the most entertaining conversations. Still, as I said before, we are shaped by our own experiences, and view the world through that lens, which sometimes makes it difficult for us to enjoy something as just being fun, if we’ve had experience with sociopathic people, and see the hallmark traits when they are being displayed. So I’m glad your experiences have been such that it doesn’t impede your ability to enjoy it in a way that I couldn’t.

@@CinemaTechnica it is a metaphorical story set in a fantasy sci-fi universe. If anything, I’d say it was more about what our lives would look like if we questioned some of the boundaries society places on us as women. Or what our lives would look like if we grew up without the shame society places on women’s sexuality and self empowerment. Yes, it was dark. Yes, it was bizarre. But it was also beautiful, artistically inspired, and one of those creative vehicles that takes you places you never expected to go. Definitely one of those movies I will need to see again. Sorry you had a lot of unfortunate associations with it.

@@asgeitz204 You are absolutely right, it is a metaphorical story in a sci-fi fantasy universe. Those aspects I really liked. I also love the idea of a film with female empowerment, and am all for exploring the idea of a world where women are not shamed for their sexuality. I also liked the bizarre and even dark elements of it. Those were all of the things that would have made the movie really interesting to me. The problem was the execution of some of those ideas, which actually go against those ideas in a weird way. In an idealized world where women weren't suppressed sexually, you would hope that they also wouldn't be objectified, and working in a brothel, where the woman doesn't have any say in who she has sex with, and can effectively, be bought for a man's pleasure, is the epitome of objectifying women. So that is problematic thematically if you are trying to lift women up and empower them. And the idea of the baby brain that hasn't fully developed was also problematic, when you talk about sexualizing that undeveloped brain, it muddies the waters and makes it about something different than just a woman without societal sexual expectations or restrictions. The points I made about antisocial traits, are more of an observation than a critique of the character. That's not the part that ruined the film for me, it was the baby brain and the brothel as empowerment aspects that I couldn't get past.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It seems this individual struggles with differentiating between fact and fiction, which makes it challenging to comprehend why they choose to critique films primarily rooted in fiction. "The Lobster" isn't grounded in reality; it transports viewers to a world with its own unique rules and expectations. If world-building, a hallmark of Yorgos Lanthimos's work, proves difficult to grasp, then perhaps exploring something more profoundly disturbing like "Dogtooth" would offer a clearer perspective. Lanthimos's filmography is consistently unsettling, as he adeptly navigates the unsettling territories of human behavior and societal norms.

@@CinemaTechnicaquite literally this is the least disturbing film of his collection. Killing of a Sacred Deer is more disturbing.

Thanks for watching this short.

Thanks for putting this together. It's always interesting hearing how stuff like this is put together. I wasn't familiar with Telefunken Mics before this. Apparently they make accurate reproductions of vintage tube microphones like the 251 which Billie used for her vocals on this song. Cool stuff!

Yes, they are considered high-end mics. I believe the one they used costs over $10K.

@@postpublishing6377 yeah, I think it is actually a $12,000 mic.

As with all creative mediums, not only is their meaning and emotional impact highly subjective, but contextually what that imparts is wholly dependent on the individuals frame of reference. Ergo - our reactions often times say more about our own life experiences than the message of the medium itself. Provided one has actually taken the time to experience said medium. Which you did not. So, in the end, from a purely psychological viewpoint, one might ask what compels a person to get on a very public soap box and bang on about a film they haven’t actually seen?

I felt the same way which is why it's clearly grooming. You do not have those kind of traumatic experiences with an undeveloped brain whether it be disabled or by Youth and grow into a full functioning, self-satisfied adult. But that's what they want us to believe because if they can say that it doesn't harm children by having sex with them emotionally or mentally they can take out the argument how wide is wrong. Along with the fact that children are sexual beings that can consent which is why they had the masturbation scene and had her be the aggressor that way they've covered to birds with one stone and can usher in the agenda

That’s cool. It’s a great story. I don’t know if you watched our podcast on Godzilla Minus One, but we talk quite a bit about the story. It really is a great film, both in black and white as well as in color.

That would be cool, then you could choose which version based on how nostalgic you are feeling.

So do I. Loved both versions.

That’s a good point. I had forgotten about the scene where she was stabbing the corpse in the eyes with the scalpel. Godwin had to remind her only to stab the corpses, not the live bodies. But I’m pretty sure that still isn’t normal behavior for a child, whether they were raised around death or not.

​@@CinemaTechnicathis was specifically put in there to desensitize people / children to the idea of being tortured because mind control is not only about sexual abuse it is also about The Descent that ization of physical torture to others and yourself. The guys it as empowering but really it's about disassociation

It’s worth seeing because it is a really good film. I’m glad it was nominated, I just wish it was also nominated for more than just the effects. The story is what made it great in my opinion.

I’ve heard other reviewers say that it is an entirely different film… but it isn’t. It does feel different at times, but it’s obviously the same story. I did like seeing it like that though. I would say it was a different experience.

My pleasure, thanks for watching!

It does. Apparently they did more than just desaturate the colors, but actually went in and color graded it to optimize it for black and white viewing. Cool stuff. To my eye, it looked like there was a slight blue tint to the dark scenes, but without a reference, it is impossible to tell if that was actual or just a perception.

I agree with most of your points. I didn’t develop a connection to any of the characters either. Her development was inconsistent and all over the place, but never reached a point where I saw her as having any emotional maturity. It had some interesting visuals, but that doesn’t make a movie good. Honestly I’m not impressed with the writing or directing. It doesn’t have the depth that critics or the filmmakers want to think is there. As soon as you start to dissect it you realize it is just a husk with no real substance.

Well I don’t see the point she would reach that emotional maturity, she was nerve put into any institution to break her spirit so kept child like perspective towards life. What I’m trying to say no one really thought her life in a way as we know… so of course her development was inconsistent and that’s the whole point! She is just beyond all the rules and system and categories! Pretty fascinating! Great watch

@@plushannah just watching her evolve still wasn't enough to build a complete interesting story. After 2 hrs. I was thinking. "OK cute & pretty but now where's the plot, conflict, intrigue, drama. Her husband finding her was never a concern and was of little shock or consequence. Not that it wasn't entertaining, but as BEST FILM and Acting Performance, I absolutely beg to differ.

It wasn’t a clear progression. McNamara said that in the scene on the ship where she was going to punch a baby, it was inspired by watching one of his toddlers, who said exactly that. When she started working in the brothel, she had just given away all of their money with no real understanding that they would need money to pay their way or survive. She was also still calling it furious jumping when she was getting paid for sex. Granted she was reading and starting to understand some philosophy, but in many ways she was very childish and undeveloped mentally.

The screaming in the carriage was a small child who was throwing a tantrum because she had never been denied what she wanted, and the parent finally put a restriction on her. That wasn’t teen angst.

It was UNEVEN Progression. You see this all the time with Professors who can't tie a necktie, or musicians who can't use cutlery. You Learn what you HAVE to Learn, if there are no Consequences to not Learning something you probably WON'T. ​@@CinemaTechnica

It was never established that somehow she had a miracle brain that would develop faster than a normal child's would. She had the brain taken from the fetus of her own baby so unless that was some miracle Superman baby, why would it develop any faster then a normal babies would? And by the time she was having sex with that guy in portugal, she was still walking and dressing and dancing as though she was too spitting out her food and wanting to punch out a child that's not five or six year old behavior that it was still toddler like Behavior. Her growth wasn't seen until she was enlightened by the people on the boat with the books and then we're to believe she suddenly went through a growth spurt two and three year olds don't suddenly go through an electrical gross Birds just because they're introduced to Nietzsche

Yes, I agree about the ending. I’m all for a movie with some bizarreness in it, but the story is nonsensical. Everything it is supposed to be, it fails at miserably. It’s like they had an idea and thought they were being clever and came up with some unique way of showing what it would be like if a woman wasn’t put into a box by the patriarchy, and could just experience sex without shame the way some men do. But failed to consider that the way they were doing this with a baby brain, causes all sorts of other moral issues, or that working as a prostitute is the opposite of female empowerment. It’s ridiculous. The movie reminds me of when everyone is telling you how brilliant something is, and then you see it, and you’re wondering how everyone praising it missed all of the things wrong with it.

I absolutely could see your cartoon reference happening. Funny! Like an old Popeye or Little Rascals episode.

Yes, I agree. It’s like it was made by people who want to be deep, but lack the comprehension of the subject to actually make something deep, but instead make a sloppy, over sexualized, morally questionable, mess of a movie, that people start throwing awards at because it is labeled “art”. Either that, or Yorgos knows exactly what he is doing, which would be much worse.

Thanks for the comments. There is definitely a lot to pick apart on this film. I actually like that fact that it made me think about the themes and portrayals. The whole concept about reanimating humans should send a clear signal that this was to be an unusual film.

I don’t know, I think there are elements of it that are unique… at least initially, but it devolves into something I certainly couldn’t appreciate, and the parts others seem to think are brilliant, had so many problems on virtually every level, that any message is so buried in problematic elements that it makes you wonder if Yorgos was really trying to make a case for female empowerment, or just appeasing his own desire to seem deep while convincing Emma Stone to spend months running around naked on set, in the name of “art”. To me it feels very voyeuristic.

*Sigh* I can't say I'm surprised. I get Production Design and Costume Design, but the adaptation of the screenplay made the story more disturbing, as did the directing, and the final movie certainly isn't something we should be promoting because of the problems with the baby brain. I hated the cinematography. If choosing irritating angles, and crappy lenses makes for great cinematography, then I guess I did a disservice to my first year film students by trying to teach them things like framing, and why we generally avoid dutch angles, and why we want good optics. Hollywood is broken.

@@CinemaTechnica In defense of this film, perhaps it’s the mis-use of best practices that makes the cinematography so disturbing? All of the uncomfortable angles and lenses go right along with Godwin’s unethical medical practices. It definitely leaves the viewer feeling uncomfortable, along with all the disturbing story angles.

@@postpublishing6377I agree that the cinematic choices were intentional, and when it wasn’t trying to be weird, it looked good. But I don’t think that intentionally bad equals good, and certainly not great, as an academy award nomination would suggest. But you do make good points about it adding to the disturbing aspect of the film in the same way the music and story did.

I enjoyed it.

I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts after you see it.

It was originally slated to be released on Paramount+. But after really positive screenings, decided to release it in theaters. With the second weekend box office pushing it to $66M on a $35M budget, and holding the number one spot both weekends, I think the theatrical release was a good idea.

Thanks, I cut almost 8 minutes out, and was hoping it wouldn’t be too choppy.

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