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Yes, 8100 (52CL) cranks fit, but they’re very close to the chain stays. I talk about it in a follow up video. I since switched to 8120 (55CL) cranks and the fit is better. 🍻

Thanks

On this bike it was set @ 140mm 🍻

Don’t have an accurate number, around $3500.- 🍻

Thanks. This is the link to a follow up video where you can see changes done to the bike including a dropper post: video FORKS AREA TRAIL SYSTEM (F.A.T.S.), ON MY BUILT 2023 HABIT HT !? ruclips.net/video/6BILKBPKRS4/видео.html

In this video I used 52mm chain line cranks on this bike although frame is designed around 55mm. It’s a tight fit, but it worked. Changed to 55mm now though, because this is my mucky weather bike, and I needed a bit more clearance. Fitment depends on the cranks and Q-Factor. Truvativ Stylo DUB carbon 52mm chainline crankset didn’t fit.

@@Onkelrico could you tell me if the derailleur fits on the udh without any kind of adapter? and is that the same for the deore derailleur too?

@pauldowbakin8657 as you can see in the video, no adapter needed. Any “normal” derailleur bolts right on.

I agree. Going tubeless saves a bunch of weight and will allow you to run lower pressure without tearing the tube’s valve-stems off. Hydro brakes are much better suited as well to slow these fat tire beasts down. 🍻

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. Took about a day to do. If not shooting a video, it’ll only take a few hours to build. It feels surprisingly light for a 140/150 trail-bike, climbs pretty well too. Only thing that made it feel really unbalanced was the fork…. The stock rear shock is actually really nice. Great small bump absorption, but still supportive without feeling like a lifted truck. The stock fork on the other hand was really bad. It was harsh, and nothing like the rear, making the whole bike feel kind of unbalanced. Upgrading the guts to Charger 3 with buttercups, replacing the air spring also with the buttercups version and switching to low friction SKF wiper seals did the trick, but the Manitou suspension is just my preferred set up. Bottom line, first thing on your to do list should be the front suspension. Happy Trails, can’t go wrong with a model year ‘23 Habit. Nothing proprietary on it anymore, solid performer. 🍻

It’s not backwards. Manitou forks have what’s called a “Reverse Arch”. Makes the fork stiffer and lighter. 🍻

21:37Mins. 🍻

Only the Ceramic Wax Coating. Lights are still clear. 🍻

Glad you enjoyed it. As far as the weight goes, keep in mind that this is an Extra Large frame. Almost all manufacturer’s posted weights you see are based off of a size Medium frame. In case of complete bikes, their weight is almost always without pedals on top of that. 🍻

Maybe in the future I will. 🤔🍻

Thank you! Looks like a 34T would fit as long as it’s not an oval.

@@Onkelrico is that in 55mm or 52mm chainline?

@pauldowbakin8657 Bike has 55mm chain line, but I used a 52mm chain line crankset for this build initially (XT FC-M8100-1). I’m running Shimano FC-M8120-1 cranks with 55mm chain-line now to have a bit more clearance between chain-stays and crank arms. 🍻

@@Onkelrico cool! do you have any problem with severe chainline using the 12 speed cassette and 55mm chainline? mine drops the chain on big cog if clutch is off and you back pedal

@pauldowbakin8657 No problems, chain stays perfectly put on largest sprocket with the 55mm CL when back pedaling no matter if clutch is on or off. 🍻

LoL. Dropper was added shortly after. I very rarely use it, so it’s not an odd choice at all to not have one, especially since I don’t really do any gnarly stuff on my hardtail.

Thanks. Glad you like it. You will love yours as well I bet. I always use preset 4NM torque keys made by Prestacycle for bars, stems etc., and 3NM for brake lever, shifter, grips and seat post clamp. 🍻

@@Onkelrico thanks mate. Will look them up 👍

I’m glad you enjoyed it. Link is added to the video description now. 🍻

Yes, 100%. It’s a great allrounder! A real mtb, that’s a perfect, neutral platform, that with a few tweaks according to preference can be dialed to go either way of the spectrum. Too many companies make bikes to only fit a certain riding style, the Habit HT is the opposite of that. Jack of all trades, master of none which is what I personally really appreciate. 🍻

​@@OnkelricoThank you very much for such a detailed answer

​@@OnkelricoI am 15 years old (height 170 cm), in the future my height will be approximately 180 cm, what size frame should I take MD, LG (M, L), if I take a bike for 3-5 years in advance?

I would advise to go to a bikeshop to get fitted. The recommended sizing for me on the cannondale website was spot on however.

I don’t have experience with the Trek. Looking at the 2024 specs though I would say it’s a tough choice. I don’t dig the fork on the Trek, but that can be easily swapped for a better one. I like the fact the Trek already comes with beefier tires and 2 water bottle mounts on the frame. Comparing the 2023 Roscoe 6 with the Habit HT2 the Habit takes the cake hands down. 2023 Roscoe can’t take more than a 120mm fork and has no through axle rear so that would be a nogo for me.

@@Onkelrico I heard the 2024 Roscoe 6 has the same frame as the other Roscoes and through axles. I don't even understand what through axles are lol. I could also consider the Habit 3 or Roscoe 7 if you think one of those is much better. But I am pushing my budget.

Correct. 2023 Roscoe 6 is the one I personally would not consider because of some old standard on the rear wheel. 2024 got major updates. I love my Habit(s), so I guess I’m the wrong person to ask which one to pick 😉Local bike shop might be more of a help there.

@@Onkelrico Well, where I am REI has the Habit and Trek the Roscoe. They will sell me what they have. What do you think of the Cannondale Habit 1 in comparison to the Roscoe 6 or even 7? I basically want a good frame I can upgrade in the future. So the frame should be of good quality and last.

@Jose-sy1je Roscoe 7 vs. Habit 1 is a good comparison, similar specs and price. I think the Habit 1 looks sick in silver. Both are quality bikes. Can’t go wrong with either one. If they have them in stock locally, base your decision off of a testride and see which one you jive with better. 🍻

That sounds like an interesting topic for a future video…..

It’s a HT2 frame. Go to my channel to see the Habit HT dream build video.🍻

As long as it’s a plastic lens, yes.

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Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!

Max. axle to crown (A2C) for XS frame is 531mm and for SM-XL is 563. 2023 Rockshox Lyric 150 for example is 561mm according to SRAM’s online tech documents, so you be OK. Just make sure you don’t exceed the 563mm max. length when shopping around for a fork. 🍻

What are good fork upgrades for this bike?

@johnnyd614 anything in the 130-150mm travel range should be fine and depends on what type of riding you do. 🍻

Thank you for watching, I’m glad my build inspired you! Congrats on the new bike! 👍The Jade looks much better in person than on pics! I think upgrading the fork and going tubeless is a great plan! Oftentimes the actual parts on the bike are different from what’s listed on the manufacturer’s website, so it might come with different brakes already. The Habit Carbon I build not too long ago came with better parts than expected, so just wait with buying parts until you get the bike. And yes, I still enjoy riding mine. Did a few tweaks here and there that I will talk about in another video in the future. Happy Trails! 🍻

Glad you enjoyed it!

No, travel is set at 140mm. On Manitou Mattoc everything you need to adjust travel and air spring is built in. No need to buy or change airshaft for travel change or buy Tokens to adjust progressiveness! The Stock for was 130mm though.

Do you think a 150mm fork be OK for this frame?

Max. axle to crown (A2C) for XS frame is 531mm and for SM-XL is 563. 2023 Rockshox Lyric 150 for example is 561mm according to SRAM’s online tech documents, so you be OK. Just make sure you don’t exceed the 563mm max. length when shopping around for a fork. 🍻

Hell you can make it a 27.5 and use a 170mm​ rockshox yuri 562 A2CL@@Onkelrico

That sounds like a fun project!

Yep, totally agree!

Thank You! Glad you liked it! 🍻

Anytime!

It’s a 42/52 IS

Thank you.

Sounds like a solid plan! Look at the Manitou Mattoc fork. You can adjust the travel without buying extra parts, same goes for the “air tokens”. Other forks need you to buy them, on the Manitou you can adjust the air volume real easy without them! Maintenance is also much easier, tuning of the shim stack can be done with info readily available from Manitou, and it’s soooo much plusher without being mushy even on the base model (COMP) Mattoc! 🤟

Same bike, but with the same parts I used on my “crazy budget bike upgrades” video and with 26x4.00” Jumbo Jim tires was a bit under 28 lbs. most Fat tires weigh less or the same as a burly dh tire. On this build the most weight comes from the cassette, bb and cranks, handlebar, seat and seatpost. You should get one! You will be surprised how normal it will handle, but with tons more traction and float in sandy surfaces.

Thank you! Cannondale finally released the Habit HT1 in a sick silver finish and 1x12 Deore components a few weeks ago. Only upgrade I would need is a better fork. Even the base Manitou Mattoc Comp is so much better than most “Major Brand” forks imo.

Thank you for pointing this out!

Good catch👍 I checked the tension as you stated in the truing stand before I had the tires on, but my camera was off. So I only did it real quick with the tires on for the video, but they were still evenly tensioned.🍻

It’s a 42/52 IS headset. I’m 6’1”. I’m running a 40mm stem, stock one was 50mm. Flow trails is where it actually thrives IMO. I slammed the stem because it felt a bit floppy on technical climbs due to the high stack, now I really like how it handles. If you check out my riding video of it you can see the type of trails I mostly ride. And thanks for the Kudos, glad you enjoyed the video! 🍻

@@Onkelrico Awesome feedback, thanks!! I'll be out of the country until late January and when I get home I'm going to buy the black HT3 and do what you did. I'm hoping that it will be just different enough to my Chameleon without it being a drastic enduro shredder. I will be putting a 130mm fork on it and it will be a size large as I am 5'11"

Sounds like a solid plan! Make sure to shoot a video of your build! 🍻

I’m 6’1” and fit is spot on after replacing the stock 50mm stem for a 40mm. 🍻

Please write about your experiences with a height of 180 cm and size XL. Thank You.

Happy I went for the xl..I’m 182cm and happy with the fit

Cannondale says the Habit HT is in the ASTM Category 3 (General Trail Riding with jumps less than 24”) Canyon Stoic is ATSM Category 4 (Jumps less than 48”). So going by that alone the Habit HT is not aimed towards the Gravity side of things. 🍻

@@Onkelrico appreciated. It's just sad. despite of its very good geo, the habit ht is not as capable as a Enduro hardtail. Thanks

Thanks for watching! I agree 26lbs. Is not bad especially since it’s a XL frame. It’s a bit heavier now though, since I added 2.6” tires and a dropper post…😆 For my type of trails and riding I mostly do, I love how it rides!

@@Onkelrico wow! Especially for an XL frame, that’s light. Yep, bigger tires are heavier. I have a small steel hardtail built with really light parts and a 34Fox 120mm fork(a pretty light fork) and that bike weighs 27lbs but it’s got 29x 2.5” rear and 29x2.6” front tires along with wide CushCore wrappped around a wide i35mm Stan’s Baron CB7 rims. I don’t mind that extra weight because or the way it sucks up the bumps with those high volume tires that serve as a small amount of suspension.

Wow. 27lbs. for a steel hardtail, with wide tires & inserts on a burly rim is pretty light IMO! 🍻

@@Onkelrico thanks, I really like it. True the dropper post,wider rims,fat tires and suspension fork add some weight. But I’ve built up lighter hardtail’s with rigid carbon forks and without dropper post. They’re really nice, and climbing is a pleasure but you have to slow down and be able to pick a good line on the descents.

I hear you. I’m too old to be riding without a suspension fork. Got a bad left shoulder on top of that and even on the smooth flow trails around here I felt it for weeks after riding a rigid fatbike….

Thank you! Glad you liked it!