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@@rayvv4564 no ended up having to do the phasers themselves much more of a job and 9 times out of 10 that is gonna be what needs to be done. Also gotta check the cams lifters and rockers to see if lifter is stuck or bearings are bad in rockers. Luckily for me I didn’t have to replace cams and such but I have since done many that needed it all done and on this motor I ended up having to replace whole motor in the end because it started drinking so much oil it was crazy. If the bill is gonna go over 3000 at the shop just spend a little more and get a reman engine imho.

@@SDwriter.and.surfer yes there is bypasses for that hard parts of the trail

@@GrayLineOverland I'd have beat up my Scout pretty good on that. I just run 32s with about 4" of lift. Got a front locker and a rear Powr-Lok, a granny 1st, and a D300. Wouldn't have been enough, judging by how you came through it! Plus I was doing it solo and mainly wanted to take a scenic trail back home to San Diego. So in my ignorance I made the right call.

for sure lol

Glad you liked it

I do want to say they have addressed the concerns I mentioned and did improve the bean in many ways. I do still believe that manufacturers in this realm are leaning to much on the original manufacturer of the products in their campers rather than addressing it themselves and deal with the parts manufacturers directly themselves as this would be more likely to cause the parts manufacturers to build better quality components because if the camper manufacturers have lots of problems then they will quit using them on what they make vs one consumer who is stuck with what the camper manufacturer gives them in a lot of instances. This would give us better quality all around.

As soon as you turn off the highway onto the dirt there are plenty of places to camp but if you go a little ways up into trails there are some good spots that are more shielded from the wind and that’s where I recommend.

@@GrayLineOverland Thank you so much! I really appreciate your help.

@@petemiller519 thank you and have fun I really enjoy this stuff.

Yes always a good idea to get weight to the front to balance a load

Did you replace the phasers when you did the cams? If you didn’t that is the issue more than likely and always use genuine mopar parts.

@@GrayLineOverland yes. Replaced at the dealer. Oh. Also have a rear main seal leak. lol. Never heard of a rear main seal until I got a Jeep. lol. Never had a car with that issue either. Thanks to Jeep, my knowledge as a mechanic has increased while my bank account has decreased. Jeep can go kick rocks. POS quality

Wow that’s sad I had a jasper motor that did the same thing and they ended up replacing it after I did a bit load of troubleshooting only thing I could figure is something to do with the oil pressure to the oil control valves. It was never figured out while I had it though

@@DeltaBravo-777 they make quality stuff

The gel coat has gotten better from what I have heard and the warranty dept in general has gotten better. I don’t think I would go high end on a teardrop again but would prob stick to the ones around the 10grand mark as at that price you can look over small stuff and also afford to make it your own.

Also changed filter and 5w 30w as well 😢

Cam phasers themselves are bad it’s quite an involved job but definitely doable

@@GrayLineOverland all 4?. I'm in bank 2 sensor 2 error... I was thinking just the drivers side?

@@wackz I would do both on bank 2 at minimum. When I did mine I did all four just to make sure I didn’t have to go back in later. Only buy the genuine mopar ones.

Yes if it doesn’t have the added weight ours did

@@dailylife3975 he painted them

Yes they were working hard to resolve the issues and they grew so fast it was at a time of growing pains for them. I put similar kind of miles maybe 20000 or so and spent lots of time off-road as it was bought for that purpose alone so I am a lot harder on one than most but that’s why I was able to really see the issues. Thanks for the info and glad you have had a pleasant experience

Yeah I think they are similar to what’s in this video and I was super pleased with mine and easy to build ran them for 2 years

Looks ok but have no experience with them. Coils are not dual rate but neither were my jks springs and I loved them. I would say on the budget end it looks ok but I wouldn’t expect it to be the same quality as rock krawler or metalcloak. The more budget friendly stuff doesn’t last as long but you’re paying half the price so that’s to be expected and as long as you know that you should be pleased.

No that’s just for fun

@@GrayLineOverland thanks for replying, if it’s the same spot I’m thinking I live like 8-10 minutes from it, if you’re coming from Alabama does it end near highway 100 in Georgia ? I live on the Georgia side where treat mt road crosses 100

@@zacfree5 not sure been a while

This is a link to the trail but not a usfs link Black Mountain OHV Trail on AllTrails www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/black-mountain-truck-trail?sh=a8bmsb

They stopped making these ones but poison spyder and several others make them like this.

Cams were good but phasers were bad but yea very poor design that is solved with the Baxter item I totally agree. I never did it because I ended up getting rid of the Jeep not long after I found that solution.

@GrayLineOverland Thank you for posting this video So if I understand correctly you replaced both cam Phase Actuators on the drivers side in this video and you did this because after you replaced the camshaft position sensors in the back of bank 1 and bank 2 with mopar sensors it didn’t fix the problem. So you had your Jeep scanned again after replacing the rear camshaft position sensors bank 1 and bank 2 with mopar sensors and you now get a code that implicates the cam phase actuators on the front drivers side. You replace these front drivers side cam phase actuators and that doesn’t fix your problem and we are now at the end of your video… So what happened after this ? you replaced all four cam phasers on both sides all in one job and this fixed your problem ? Do you remember what code you got after you replaced the two front cam phase actuators on the drivers side and before you replaced the cam phasers on all four sides ? After you replaced all four cam phasers (two on each side) this fixed all problems? And you drove the Jeep for long enough to know it permanently fixed the problem and then you sold the Jeep ? If you could confirm all of the details and my understanding as I summarized it above it would help me try to figure out what to do next with my 2014 wrangler jk.

Thanks I appreciate it

We appreciate it and we would love to sell them just not at this point maybe in the future

Yeah we keep them in vehicle and get what we need daily before bed

9 times out of ten it’s the actual cam phasers which requires removing valve cover oil control valve timing chain to get to it.

May I ask what the the oil control valve timing chain is ? I’m familiar with what removing the valve covers means and what removing the timing chain to get to replace the cam phasers . But I’m curious to know what the oil control valve timing is ? Are these the oil gallery bolts ?

Sold Jeep but I rebuilt the rear uppers right before I sold it a couple months back but they held up well especially for the money

Thanks for sharing!

Awesome

We love ours

P0020

I rewired mine from the computer at one point to eliminate possibility of problems wasn’t hard

Yes phasers is likely culprit especially with those miles

@@GrayLineOverland yep for sure. Do you know if i have to use some scanner tool to help the car computer to relearn the timing? Because i can do the mechanical part

@@whatroads4x4 yes it’s best to do a relearn

@whatroads4x4 Did you replace the cam phasers and if so did it work ? I have a 2014 Jeep Wrangler jk with 180 k miles I have replaced the rear bank one and rear bank 2 camshaft position sensors with mopar sensors as well as replaced the both wiring harnesses with mopar replacement wiring harness and it did not fix the problem either. Because my ABS light comes on with the check engine light I replaced the two front ABS sensors with mopar ABS sensors as well and this didn’t fix the problem. I’m considering trying the cam phasers next

@@jamesangrisano9225 hey. No i have not. Just bought a new truck. Jeeps still runs. It now has overheating issues here and there that im focusing on, might be a bad head gasket. But yes the jeep here and there , puts me in limp mode if im pushing it. I was waiting to purchase a new vehicle so i could give the jeep some down time. Gonna do some work on it in the next few months and make it a dedicated offroader. Ill check back in. But judging from everything ive learned and read, i believe the spring in the cam phasers, lose there tension overtime on top of cam wear etc. Ill be doing cams, rockers, phasers and watever else is worn out. And possibly a head gasket. But i might just scrap that whole idea and go with a v8 engine. Im running at 327k miles now haha.

Just sold Jeep and yes I was still running them. I rebuilt them but live them for the money

@@GrayLineOverland OK. Thank you for your reply

All good you answered the question in the video 😂Tha ks

@@jasonjamesbisson no problem